Thread 720059041

Its gonna be a big whiplash once the honeymoon phase is over

you'll stop spamming about it in couple days and move on to spam about next thing like usual

>>720059245
you lost and got raped

Casual faggots need to be banned from the internet.

>>720059041 (OP)
Waiting everyday, logging onto threads, like a massive faggot, in the hope that the "discourse" turns sour.

Amazing existence OP

>>720059041 (OP)
its just not a fun game
and the hype was retarded

>>720059656
Eh. Spics aren't humans so this is really just meaningless.

World of Warcraft raid boss runbacks aren't fun or engaging gameplay and only serve to pad out the playtime and waste the player's time. Not a single game in existence has a truly understandable justification for boss runbacks.

Everything else is fine though.

>>720059041 (OP)
Team Popped Your Cherry goes on massive viral marketing campaign. Blows up in their face. You love to see it. Shoulda stayed indie, bruh.

How pathetic you gotta be that you're acting like game journalists.

>>720059982
you are just confirming that no one should play this shit game other than poopsock autists

The runbacks are pretty lengthy. I don't think these guys even tested that out. They didn't test out a scenario where you lost the boss fight and had to come back to it. I think they just overlooked it because they were focusing on the boss attack patterns working as intended.

>>720061375
>They didn't test out a scenario where you lost the boss fight and had to come back to it
Nigger. Are you for real?
Every single runback is designed that way. In the endgame these are particularity cancerous.

>>720059982
>>720061227
Silksong simply doesn't have enough complexity to warrant this kind of difficulty
It's just a 2D action platformer with 1 weapon and no combo system, designed around spamming the same small pp swipe all day. The game knows it's simplistic and overcompensates by requiring very precise play, which is not the kind of difficulty anyone cares for
>big player hitbox
>small attack range
>contact damage
>ranged fliers that input read and run away
>most enemies survive more hits than you do
What a riveting combination, I can already feel the fun lmao

Hah
A good lesson for Hollow Knight drones that you should wait for reviews/community discussion before buying.

>>720061562
What? You are literally agreeing with that guy. He said the runbacks are long and weren't tasted enough and you're calling him a nigger and saying that they're not long, but cancerous.

>>720059041 (OP)
The game would be immensely improved by halving enemy health.

>>720061608
>>small attack range
>>ranged fliers that input read and run away
This is something I hate - that skirmishing behavior with few tools to really do anything about it. Also, the game is constantly putting you in situations where you must do difficult platforming while dealing with these types of enemies. It gets tiresome.

>>720059041 (OP)
That or people will actually get good like they do with every Souls game and it will be forgotten like a fart in the wind.

on the contrary, after all the bandwagonners who only bought silksong because of launch hype give up, the general opinion on the game will only grow more positive over time

The issue with Silksong if you're a FUCKING CASUAL, GET OUT, GET THE FUCK OUT is that the game doesn't compromise. Despite very obviously being inspired by FromSoft games, Team Cherry didn't adapt their design philosophy regarding difficulty to Silksong. FromSoft always lets the player determine their preferred difficulty and provides them with powerful tools to do so. For example:
>magic trivializes Demon's Souls, and each X-1 area contains a strong weapon with a prefix (for example, the crescent falchion)
>magic also trivializes Dark Souls, but the zweihander, drake sword, and any twinkling titanite weapon (especially the black knight weapons) can effortlessly carry you through the game
>the opening act of Elden Ring is intentionally designed to shower you with strong weapons and spells for every build (except ARC/INT, fuck you) after you get your ass kicked by Margit, with the bloodhound's fang being the most obvious example
Not to mention spirit ash summons and all the multiplicative modifiers in Elden Ring.

Silksong is much more strict and uncompromising. While the literal tools that Hornet has access to can be very strong, situationally or otherwise, it's not like Elden Ring where there's a side quest leading you to one of the best weapons in the game in the starting zone. You have your needles, your tools, your crests, and your charms and that's all you're getting. There's not a dedicated mechanic where you can effectively break the bosses' AI and trick them into fighting a ghost. Your only option is to play better or get lucky.

Anyways, the game is good, and I don't think it's too difficult despite there being a few bullshit moments. Most of the balance issues are annoyances.

>>720062887
Also FUCK every ranged enemy in this game. That's something that actually fucking sucks. I have no idea what they were thinking designing a hundred different tanky motherfuckers who take 4-10 hits to kill and just repeatedly drift or dodge away from you in the air. So fucking annoying.

>>720059041 (OP)
>Average player got better after decades of exposure to video games.

It's the Bloodborne of our time. Hated on release only to be slowly liked after.

>>720063146
Bloodborne was hated on release?
I had issues buying a ps4 in my area when it came out because everyone bought the ps4 for bloodborne. It was loved from the start.

>>720062956
The trap tool has a permanent slot in my loadout for that reason, so easy to just chuck one out and back up a little and every flying enemy will just drift into it and kill itself.

>>720059041 (OP)
The broccoli hairs are going to grab onto this and claim its the GOTY no matter what. They're too invested in the hype.

>>720063367
I just stopped fighting flying enemies. I don't know what they were thinking making them as tanky as their grounded counterparts. Such an absurdly stupid decision. Obviously the enemies with more mobility that take longer to actually hit should have less health, but no.

>>720061724
they were tested and devs thought that this is exactly what people whos into souls shit will love

>>720063226
Console warring by PTDE secondaries and the fact that it was too hard for most movie loving snoys took out the normalfg interest away from it. Threads were mostly negative outside of the comfy/general.

>>720063493
You probably weren't even born yet or alternatively are third world and don't matter.
Us whites love Bloodborne and always have.

>>720059041 (OP)
It's always the PC gaymers malding about difficulty and modding games to be easier.

>>720063554
I was here in 2015 and saw it unfold. Witcher/pol/shills were going all out against it like E33jeets are towards Silksong.

>LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME?!? NN NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MOMMY MOMMY I WANNA PLAY ON BABY MODE MOMMY PLEASE PICK ME UP IM GETTING TRIGGERED OVER A TOY MOMMY
Just git gud lmao it ain't that hard

>>720063836
Fuck you. If this were a good game, I'd get to stand in place, and then press the parry button at the right time, and then the game would reward me with a super sick cutscene to make me feel like a cool boy. That's what a good game would do.

>>720063967
>he doesn't use the parry skill

>>720063967
Just use your hands bro the game is easy as fuck once you press more than one button

>>720063480
everything except for bosses goes to shit after the first areas
runbacks
cancer spike on low ceilings, hope you don't hold jump to long
these damn jump flowers that you will miss with like 0.2 chance if you're on a gamepad
infinitely chasing flying enemies that are impossible to pass by sometimes if you're just running through already explored area
beads that ran out even if you literally never lose them

just infinite tidium, unironically would be a better game if it was a furi-style boss rush

>>720059041 (OP)
>journo getting assblasted for sucking at the game
Lol. Team Cherry won't cater to these shitters.

>>720064197
Don't jinx it.

>>720064148
>these damn jump flowers that you will miss with like 0.2 chance if you're on a gamepad
Legitimate criticism, game needs some sort of deadzone setting for left stick inputs. Maybe it has one and I just didn't check. Anyway, it's really common to turnaround unintentionally because of stick flipback.

These "gamers" whined about the first game. Know what the devs did? They made it even harder by nerfing powerful charms, then they added the toughest bosses via free updates. Let these fags whine.

>>720061608
>and no combo system
Thank you for confirming that you are the same fucking retard who insists that dark soups should be more like DMC (a worse game that you also have not even played)

>>720059041 (OP)
You're not allowed to say anything bad about this fotm slop. It has been declared to be GOTY!
Jesus Christ I hate modern publishers and their normalfag legions of retard consumer cultists.

>run backs
Literally just the video game.
>wtf I have to play the whole level in Mario?
Yes.

>>720059041 (OP)
why is the headline capitalized like a song title

>>720064460
>slop
You are a transexual zoomer

...

>>720064775
Correct, and ze got molested by both hir dad and uncle.

>>720063836
fuck you. what about timmy with a "SO" and her three black kids who has no time / energy after slaving away at the amazon warehouse to grind a boss for hours, huh? what about him? WHY ARE YOU EXCLUDING HIM????

Some people have jobs and families and turn to video games to relax. Autistically memorizing every enemy attack pattern and stage layout does not appeal to us. I'm glad the game is a success but it'll never be my cup of tea.

>>720059041 (OP)
i don't even care about the difficulty, i just dislike the decline of Metroidvania-ing. vendors sell most of the charms now, masks are too sparse, the crest and memory system are worse than notches, nail feels too weak. i like tools but using up shards is cancer. they clearly wanted, thematically, hornet to be a fixed playstyle about silk like a bug ninja than having diverse builds or playing too similar to the knight.

>>720064451
>reads "2D action platformer with a combo system"
>thinks of DMC instead of Blasphemous or any number of non-metroidvania action platformers
Silksong babies were born yesterday and this is their second video game

>>720061210
The whole "the reason we spent 7 years making this game was we were having too much fun!" interview already has aged like milk. I can only imagine how bad it'll look years from now.

>>720061210
Imagine being this delusional.

>>720065146
It's very uncommon and never good

>>720061210
>>720065368
The game has exceeded expectations and you only hate it because you suck dick at videogames and refuse to try to improve

>>720059245
/thread

>>720065591
Megaman Zero/ZX have excellent combo systems, play better games faggot

>>720059041 (OP)
>another redditor thread whining about difficulty
my god, why don't you just discuss it there?

>>720059041 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE THE GAME NOT GIVE ME GOD MODE IT SHOULD JUST LET ME WIN RRRRREEEEEEEEEEE
I bet the ones bitching are the same retards who made use of pic related

>>720059041 (OP)
The amount of seething moderate difficulty causes nowadays is insane.

>>720059245
Once something new and interesting happens you won't give two shits about silksong anymore

>>720059041 (OP)
I'm pretty sure anyone bitching is a metroid or zelda babby who's used to playing with 10 energy tanks and 30 heart containers respectively

>>720059041 (OP)
>gayme requires the absolute minimum of skill>
>nuneo/v/ shits itself like no tomorrow
Never stops being funny.

>>720065428
>>720065696
They hated me because I spoke truth

>>720061145
>Not a single game in existence has a truly understandable justification for boss runbacks.
Immersion being more important than autistic gameplay in some games

I've just been lurking these threads so I can't speak for how I think of the difficulty or how accurate what I'm about to say, I liked HK but didn't think it was some revelation or anything, but what I'm getting is that we found our new Doom Eternal. Some people will evangelize the difficulty to the point of outright dismissing anything people say until they prove they've beaten the game under whatever artificial metrics people come up with, while at the same time some will hate the game with a personal vendetta because of the difficulty.

>>720061334
git gud

>zoomies and redditors hate "archaic" gaming conventions like life systems, continues, and game overs
>these types of games usually had a checkpoint right before boss battles
>fast forward to today, they praise games for doing away with traditional "lives" but also suck off Soulslop for making other heavily time-wasting mechanics (like runbacks and loss of progression currency on death) the industry standard
Make it make sense. I can fully understand the argument against going back to the beginning of the game if you lose so many lives, but I can't understand why the same people who asked for that to go away to then praise other gimmicks that waste just as much of your time.

>>720073938
filtered zoomie

>>720059041 (OP)
>The dreaded git gud comments
Dreaded by who? lol

>>720072297
Nah, they hated you because you're a retarded faggot

>>720059041 (OP)
Game is great. All the criticism about difficulty and runbacks is true. It's harder than the original and requires more precision in platforming.

I finished act 1 and the judge runback everybody is complaining about is like 30 seconds long, if that. Am I playing the same game?

>>720076982
It's not the runback people complain about.

>>720076982
You're just not a turbocasual is all.

>>720072798
Yeah, there's probably a similar dynamic. Though people don't dislike Doom Eternal because of the difficulty, but because of how it forces a certain gameplay style on the player.

>>720077213
Arguably it's similar although you're right that Eternal's complaints are more in the gameplay style. I've seen quite a few people say the playtesters for Silksong are speedrunning trannies because of how the game is designed, which is similar to Eternal being designed with speedrunner gameplay mentality.
I really wonder how Team Cherry will react. On the one hand, they've hit the jackpot, they don't need to compromise. Then again, I'd think they want their game to be well received rather than being frustrating. Honestly it's the only thing that's keeping me from buying it. I like a challenge but I don't think all challenge is inherently fun or satisfying.

>>720078336
I hope they don't change a goddamn thing. I'm so tired of seeing games with only moderate difficulty turned easier because of whining.

>>720059041 (OP)
Nobody gave a shit about games being hard back when Donkey Kong Country and Castlevania were the biggest games of their era.

>>720062887
>Most of the balance issues are annoyances.
This
>>720062956
Also this

>>720063967
>seething about E33 out of nowhere

>>720060958
>logging
You dont belong