Thread 720060326

Do you play any MMOs, anon?
What're you playing? Any you're looking forward to?

>>720060326 (OP)
What game, marketer-kun? If it's korean mmo I won't play it.

>>720060326 (OP)
I played them a bunch when I was younger, recently I tried WoW for the first time, did some raids and did some mythic+ content and I just cant be asked anymore
these games are just not for me, playing an mmo feels like having a 2nd job
Ill try the riot one if it ever comes out

>>720060453
It's korean. Don't play it. NCSOFT a shit. It's just a neat webm.
I think gook mmos have some nice ideas in there, but yeah, they're generally awful.
Blade and Soul

>>720060326 (OP)
Not playing anything at the moment. Looking forward to seeing what Archeage Chronicles is all about, also if Blizzard is gonna make some kind of Classic+ server.

Nah they're just not the same. The demographic and the people are different, everyone got older, it's just lame and weird now. Talking a bunch of shit and pvping and grouping up to grind/quest/raid/dungeon/whatever or simply hang out in a virtual open world was fun when we were teenagers and young adults, and that was most of the fun with MMOs. There's no appeal left now except people who can't let go.

>>720060326 (OP)
Dipping my toes in EVE. Going to try and build an Amarr giga single laser sniper/orbital laser ship and frag some noobs to see if it's fun (i have no idea what I'm doing).

I'll probably fail and then uninstall because it seems like you have to coordinate with people to do absolutely anything but the minimum in this game. Which is a good thing, but I don't want to party up every single time I log on.
Otherwise, no other MMOs appeared even slightly interesting in the past few years. It's all action combat slop (which is just as deep as tab targeting with prettier animations) and overdesigned nip/korean plastic dolls in painfully generic worlds, with painfully generic quests and mechanics.

Wake me up when they make another MMO like The Secret World.

>>720061471
I played both versions of Archeage, and I will never touch anything with that name ever again because it's guaranteed gonna be a scam..

I play Mab and mab-likes.
I'm looking forward to Mabinogi Eternity.

>>720060326 (OP)
mmos have been irrelevant for at least 10 years

>>720063769
Oh yeah. I'll play the Mabi reboot IF they remove the stupid Blaanid shit that skips 90% of the game.

>>720060326 (OP)
>What're you playing?
i was playing turtle wow but now that their days are numbered because of the lawsuit i'll probably just quit mmos altogether
newer mmos just don't do it for me

>>720063214
But anon, they did make more MMOs like The Secret World. In that they all flop hard

>>720064346
Name a single one.

>>720060326 (OP)
It is my opinion that you shouldn't have a game where you can do this to enemies unless enemies can also do this to you.

They've forgotten how to make fun MMOs, or maybe they don't bother anymore because the audience forgot how to have fun. The last MMOs worth playing were XIV, gw2 and osrs and those are all ancient
I guess and maple story 2 but that was very short

>>720063829
This

>>720060326 (OP)
waiting for the next tier in xiv, but in the meantime I'm bounty hunting

No.
Nothing.
No.

just turtle wow, dont really enjoy the genre anymore since the internet is infested with normalfags and you cant say retard faggot anymore without being banned

>>720060326 (OP)
Blade and Soul is actually really fun and has a varity of character classes but at the end of the day the only end game of an mmo is massive grinding, pvp, and aura farming.

>>720060326 (OP)
I'm waiting for a good private server for Tera 31.04

>>720063769
Mabi was sovl in G1-G9 era, then briefly good again during Iria Saga, and then went right back to dogshit

>>720066648
Thinking of going back to Elite, it's been years now since I've quit
Anything I need go keep in mind? I'm gonna start over from the beginning
And good to see another XIV player

>GW1
loved it, molded me, didn't need to pay a monthly sub just to play a game I already bought
>GW2
what the fuck did they do to my beloved game
>GW3
patiently waiting to see what they plan on doing now

I tried ESO, hated it. besides that, I'm not playing any MMO, the genre feels dead

Im playing Toram found it throught /v/ and seems nice i like the artstyle and combat seems nice (i fucking hate wows combat where you canont escape enemy and they way combat works there in general)

>>720072501
>I'm not playing any MMO, the genre feels dead
because it is
in the 2000s mmos were a novelty to give players a sense of persistence in its game world that couldn't be offered by typical single player games. since then all of those features have been copied and ported over to every other type of game/genre so there is not much of a point to the existence of mmos anymore. at least not in the same way as they did in the 2000s.

Where Winds Meet seems interesting. Sure it's a chinkoid game but it actually seems pretty innovative for an MMO and there doesn't appear to be any P2W

>>720060326 (OP)
I literally just woke up from a dream where I played Lineage 2

>>720074046
Does look interesting and sick but in a classic Asian overpromising way. I'll keep an eye out for it but I'm unfortunately pessimistic. If it has genuinely good action combat and not cooldown-centric bullshit then it's already starting out ahead of most.

I play Haven and Hearth. I wish there was a more popular MMO similar to it.

>>720060326 (OP)
the only MMO that feels good to me is WoW classic Hardcore

it's really really fun and good though, super well designed game, the core combat is very fun, all the classes are well-designed, great combination of incremental and power-spike loot and talent and ability acquisition that keeps things engaging all the way to 60, the one-life mode feels both fair but adds a level of challenge and 'risk' to it thats unmatched. too bad it seems the player counts are slowly dwindling for that mode

raiding and 'endgame' is legit gay as fuck in MMO's, runescape's grind and gameplay is just too transparently a 'click the thing' grind, and i absolutely and completely cant stand weebshit except in very narrow pornographic use-cases so any of the japkor mmo's are out

Should I play PSO2 (and maybe New Genesis)?
I loved Phantasy Star 1-4 and I never got around to playing PSO1

>>720075697
>and maybe New Genesis
Good Lord, no. A thousand times no.
Maybe base PSO2 in a year or three when there's a private server. Not worth downloading 130gb to have such a shitty experience with how it is on Sega's servers now.

>>720075697
PSO2 /NGS is nothing like ps1 -4. Don't bother unless the idea of playing Second Life but Japan appeals to you

>>720075697
NO

>>720060326 (OP)
waiting on blue protocol sr, what i played of the cbt was fun but they definitely turned it into
>login every few days for shit
>do weekly/saved up dailies
>dont play for a week
only during the first month or two will it be worth actively playing every day or so
of course, not like it has a high bar to pass considering og blue protocol fucking sucked donkey dick
>>720075697
fuck no stay far the fuck away, i say this as a faggot with 13 years of sunk cost in jp, do not fucking play ngs
if anything, wait for the private server and don't interact with anyone on it if you value your sanity, i've already seen messages from some of the shitcord niggers advocating to keep certain content removed from the game because its fan-servicey or collab shit (eg: ff14 collab, bath scenes in ep4)

>>720060326 (OP)
I redownloaded GW2 recently and have putting a lot of time into it recently, looking forward to 3 if it ever gets made.

>>720077054
I should have stayed in the starlight dev discord doing janny tier quest making just to have a chance at leaking the server files at some point.

>>720060326 (OP)
>Do you play any MMOs, anon?
Yes, tried most of the worthwhile ones, sunk thousands of hours each into 3 or 4 of the better ones
>What're you playing?
Eve Online.
After playing basically everything else it made me realise that there's honestly no MMO that does it all right like Eve does.
Yeah it has its problems like any MMO does but overall what else is there?
Nothing else has the depth, amount of content and complete customisability that Eve has while also having white knuckle PVP, a good community and complete freedom to do whatever you want.

Also most MMOs now are baby mode and dont punish you for dying. I expect at least to lose 10% of my level and delvl if I'm playing a sword & shield MMO and/or to drop all of my gear but most dont do that shit anymore, which just leaves Eve.
>Any you're looking forward to?
Nothing else really, waiting on the Eve Vanguard playtest next week.

>>720060326 (OP)
I burned myself out of LOTRO a few months back. I was grinding rep deeds in At Erebor/Dale/Felegoth, shit was a so tedious I should've just moved on.
I've thought about subbing to EQ2 to play on either their origins or regular TLPs. I know the game was always pretty jank but I want to experience what it was supposed to be without the absurd inflation that comes from 15,000 different AA tracks.

Best mmo coming through

>>720060326 (OP)
If 90% of games are trash (which they are)
Then 99.99% of MMOs are trash

What the fuck would you even play at this point? I mean you've got OSRS and Warframe but nothing else is worth your time and you probably already played those two to death like myself

>>720078927
>zoomer phone app UI

>>720078216
Thank you for this webm to remind me how fucking boring EVE is
>fly to site
>select asteroid/celestial object
>orbit at 50/75/100km
>press F1 to turn on your guns when something dies
>clear site
>fly to new site and repeat
Fuck me PvE is boring as shit in EVE.

>>720079321
>phone app UI
nigga what

>>720078216
As someone who hasn't really checked out rve online and doesn't know much about it, it just seems like a more boring and grindy tarkov with p2w and tons of drama to me

If you aren't getting thousands of dollars blasted away by someone who paid 3000 dollars, what does the gameplay even look like?
>>720078283
I didn't know anyone still played lotto. It's probably the mmo I have fondest memories of. I probably put like 10k-15k hours into it and then got permanently banned on my lifetime membership account for calling someone a "dutchfag" only for him to turn out to ACTUALLY be friends with a GM and get me banned like ten minutes later

>>720078927
Warframe is just destiny 2 but somehow EVEN WORSE
I can't imagine why anyone would play that

>>720079468
>Warframe is just destiny 2 but somehow EVEN WORSE
Patently false, as Warframe doesn't remove old content to free up hard drive space.

>>720063769
What is a mab-like, runescape?
Also I see a lot of screenshots of your cute characters, but you guys never show end-game content being cleared

>>720079323
chill =/= boring anon.
MMOs are about chilling for 95% of the time and nearly shitting your heart out from adrenaline the other 5%.
Objectively, WoW is much more boring than Eve. Its just "run to next quest marker" simulator and its the most popular MMO ever made.

>>720079398
>it just seems like a more boring and grindy tarkov with p2w and tons of drama to me
Its a better, bigger Albion Online.
Retards think its Pay2Win when its not. Swiping credit cards doesnt get you anywhere except getting ridiculed

but you'd have to like spaceships and space stuff in general to enjoy it so if you havent already played X3/X4, ED, SC, Space Engineers or something then you might not like Eve.

>>720079468
if you actually played destiny 2 in the last 3 years you would know that your're talking out of your ass

>>720079682
End game content is raids with groups of 4-8. The combat is fairly dynamic and skill based and you will need to use repositioning and iframe dodging. End game raids punish you with negative status effects for getting hit.

>>720080109
You just described FF14 endgame content and everyone calls that shit.

>>720080109
Oh cool then I'll never enjoy this game from EU, maybe the mobile version will have EU servers

I'm playing TWoW after the disappointment of epoch and cause of got nothing else I'm interested in playing. Absolutely fuck leveling 25-30 these areas for horde are ass

>>720079321
Where?

>>720079515
Yeah it fucking sucks they did that but at least destiny 2 still has a crumb of enjoyable content
>>720080013
Don't think I have but there's no way they removed EVEN MORE content after removing a bunch... Right?

>>720080376
Here >>720078927
This absolutely looks like mobile game UI
Genuinely open any gacha game menu

I was playing SoD on Classic WoW, but that ended and I had no interest in any other version of Classic at the moment. A friend gifted me War Within recently, I leveled my old main through that, and it was boring and I stopped after running through all the story content in a week. I might try The Old Republic in the future, just to do the main story and see it.

>>720080376
Fucking visual cancer and 2013 console graphics wtf anon

>>720080240
Only cause ffxiv got simplified to baby mode. Mabi let's you you hybridize with around 100 combat skills

>>720080240
I like xiv's endgame. I hate 24/48 player content as I feel like it makes individual performance way too irrelevant
Basically just doesn't feel like you're playing a game

Still the best MMO is not even a MMO.

>>720080617
>>720080575
Show me your mmo that looks better than this

>>720080493
Yeah actually they power creep out older content dlc content you purchased and every season also removes the previous seasonal activates after every battle pass. We're talking dozens of seasons at this point. They just recently scrapped the previous light level system for a new one. Which is basically just like gear score but worse.

>>720081027
Dread the day those servers go offline forever.

>>720081758
Every game from that era has some sort of private server except this one. NCSoft could easily shut down the server because it gives them no money having this game still operational.

>>720081102
Soon as in 2-3 years

>>720079468
Warframe has an open economy and trading is heavily encouraged.

I've tried every MMO but the only one with decent PvP was World of Warcraft.

I play OSRS.

I like to revisit mmos i've played in the distant past for a few weeks before moving on to a single player game binge.
Right now i'm revisiting Maplestory and BDO.
They're definitely different from their release state and there's been some improvements, but they're still pretty terrible since kmmos are inherently kind of bad because of rng progression those gooks seem to obsess over. They do have some neat ideas in there. Maplestory as more engaging bosses than before and BDO's combat still hold up and i still enjoy the pvp, but that might just be cope since i miss Tera's combat.
A couple of friends have been playing with the idea of going back into XIV and thats another i haven't played in a few years, but they've been toying with the idea for a year now and have just instead play League stating that life is busy. Maybe it's for the best, since i hear it's not really in a good state now.

>>720082440
I'd suggest you give mabinogi a try but you just missed the majority of a catch up event that brings you to end game. Might want to wait for the next one during winter. If you're willing to grind for a bit you can possibly finish the current one

>>720082202
what game? looks cute

>>720082608
Mabinogi post engine migration.

>>720060326 (OP)
>Bitchin combat
>Still forces you to play through a dog shit story to unlock features and zones
BnS was developed by retards.

>>720066648
I played Elite years ago on my PS4 and worked my way up to get an Anaconda and had hundreds of millions of credits.
That was years ago, bought the game again recently for PC and went to start playing it and it threw me into a fps and I was so confused.

>>720082608
>>720082665
https://youtu.be/EHxYNxXn8Ns?si=2pkMbdS9ili4dkye here's how the gameplay is going to look after the migration

>>720082772
NCSOFT aren't the smartest bunch.
I do like the artstyle of the game and the combat is nice.
I really don't know how koreans will have these really nice mechanics and designs in their games, but absolutely ruin the whole game because of 1 or 2 things that they refuse to not add (jewery, obsessive grind, everything is 0.0001% rng).
Gooks are an odd bunch.

>>720060326 (OP)
>What're you playing?
pantheon: rise of the fallen.
I'm currently farming coal and maple logs for a quest

The King has arrived.

SMT Imagine is great

>>720083143
>I do like the artstyle of the game and the combat is nice.
Yes, and instead of making large dungeons with fun fights, they made shitty copy-paste dungeons that are just hallways filled with generic mobs. BnS would've been much better of as an ORPG like GW1 and PSO

>>720079682
Here's some end game content being cleared https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W2gP2cATfyg&pp=ygUSTWFiaW5vZ2kgZ2xlbm4gdmht it's pretty fast paced but nothing unmanageable. The feel of the combat is much more dynamic and intuitive than traditional tab target mmos

I play MapleLegends (maple PS) on and off, but the community of jaded oldfags is really offputting and drive new players away, so there's a big gap between new players that stay into entry-mid level bosses, and grouchy old endgame players that just circle jerk over having been on the server longer.

BDO. It's a piece of shit, but it's my piece of shit.
If it weren't for the combat, i'd have not even bothered.

>>720081102
Honestly looks like a crusty Starfield mod

>>720086575
Which guy are you the one who posted the anime shit or the guy who posted the 90s game with a texture pack?

>>720086575
Also What is you opinion on playing as a pregnant robot?

>>720086434
I'm waiting for Crimson Desert so I don't have to bother with the MMO aspect at all. Same with the Vindictus sequel.

>>720060326 (OP)
I stopped playing ff14 and I'm currently playing warcraft 2 to try and stockholm syndrome myself to WoW's story.

>>720060326 (OP)
Man I was so hyped for this game. Waited forever for it to come out... then I finally got to play it and it was hot garbage.

>>720088343
Same. It looks really good. Hopefully it isn't an unoptimized piece of shit like most modern games.

>>720060326 (OP)
last mmo i played was swtor 5 years ago
in retrospect, it's hilarious how wow ended up following its footsteps in singleplayer crutches
i wonder how soon wow will go into actual maintenance mode

>>720088343
Hoping that without the mmo part weighing it down the combat it becomes a true action game like Tera and not the hybrid BDO currently is.

>>720083216
I'm from the 2007-2010 era of Flyff
The last content I remember being put was the Forsaken Tower?
I remember going as far as Master lv115 but the exp requirement to level was so rough after that...Azria full map of mobs being aoe would only give like 0.05% or something like that

Did riot ever confirm their mmo or is that just dead in the water?

>>720091950
riot can't be trusted with their own ip, if the aren't trying to copy valve they're mismanaged to hell

>>720084776
Fatalis my beloved. Conquest crimson fatty my beloveder

Anyone else play the Monsters and Memories playtest? It's made by ex-EverQuest private server devs apparently.

I had fun, but you can really feel some of the archaic EQ design at times.

>>720060572
If Tera 2 is able to reach 2013 Tera levels then I will gladly be first in line at the K-slop trough.

>>720078927
Warframe calling it's self an MMO sums up why MMOs have basically died. Nothing about Warframe is an MMO besides it's online.

>>720097242
Been waiting for it to flesh out some more.
Liked what I saw initially, but there was so little game that that didn't mean much.

>>720063769
I will go back to Mabi if Eternity actually happens.

>>720063214
Eve has the best crafted virtual world for sure, we need more of that in the mmo world. Too bad they went p2w.

>>720083216
>>720089956
I'm from 2006-2008, the game peaked during v6 and v7.

>>720098779
It has to. They've reached hard limits with the pleione. Won't be done for at least a few more years though

>>720077325
Getting to level cap in GW2 felt like playing an Ubisoft game.

>>720097371
>launch TERA
>fun combat
>relatively balanced classes
>peak combat
>bosses allowed to be challenging
>mini bosses or in the field that give an appropriate amount of experience for the skill and time investment
Fucking hell I miss launch TERA.
Why can't the MMO playerbase stop sucking so much ass so a difficult action MMO can finally survive for fucking once?

>>720102397
Tera died because the team that ran it banned the tool players were using to reduce server latency. It was doing fine until then

>>720060326 (OP)
B&S would've been more popular if they had just one server on each continent instead of having a crapload of them in NA and EU at launch

>>720103129
I remember being unable to do the KFM BnB in PVP because of my latency (170+ ms on NA server) and it was infuriating...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6OXoO2icCc

>>720083367
you can play those? how? and is it good?

>>720105380
Private server. I wasn't a fan of the game, but it's very unique

PSO is still amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2NgANrf8dw

>>720081027
>is not even a MMO
That's why it was the best mmo, no bullshit

>>720079929
your webm is from eve online? looks cool

i've started playing DQX recently and im enjoying it
kind of upset that it wont ever get officially released in the west

>>720060326 (OP)
I'd play that blade and soul but alas it doesn't work on my machine
so im just sticking to this kusoge

>>720060326 (OP)
Trying FFXI for the first time now. I feel it isn’t really the same experience as no one seems to talk.

>>720110382
NO FUCKING WAY
MIGU
FORTNITE MIGU

>>720097242
I wouldn't mind trying it but I really preferred the Luclin-OoW era of EQ, where encounters started getting a bit more complex and AAs gave classes more distinction than just a different mix of spells compared to the release-velious era.
But the majority of EQ nostalgia seems to be driven by that pre-AA design and it is just too simple.

>>720097541
>>720098329
obviuously standing around in a lobby to launch a 4 person instance is exactly what WoW and XIV is right now, lamo

have there been any mmos that don't punish you for making retarded builds?
even if you don't fuck up, skills get buffed and nerfed often enough that you'll just naturally fall out of the optimal path with time
basically i want an mmo where skill sims and build guides aren't needed

>>720060326 (OP)
Wizard101

>>720119953
People will always optimize fun anon, you can't escape it.

>>720119953
OSRS

One day I will make a MMO that will ruin an entire generation of young adults by recreating the feeling of playing MMOs in the early 2000's.
For now I'm saving up money and making connections by making small games.
Don't kill yourself the next 10 years if you want to play it.

I play Turtle WoW
I'm a tauren shaman (restoration) and I have a 300 Herbalism skill
And yes, I am single ;)

>>720060326 (OP)
Yeah I just started this one, came with my PC. If anyone has any advice please help a noob out (^_^;)

>>720120993
One day I will make a MMO that will ruin an entire generation of young adults by recreating the feeling of playing MMOs in the early 2000's.
It'll never happen because everyone growing up now has """social""" """"""media"""""" and discord.
MMOs will get one last hurrah when genx/millenials are 80 years old in retirement homes and tab target gameplay is simple enough to keep their minds alive while their bodies rot from microplastics. Afterward they will die out completely, replaced by bespoke wAIfufaggotry and goongacha

>>720121227
Why don't we have an MMO gacha yet? 4 player co-op is not enough, THOUSANDS should see my Summer Anime-chan SSR that I got with free currency because I'm a lucky chad and she's for me.

I played lotro for a while but all the deed grinding and effectively playing alone made me quit after finishing the main storyline.

>>720060326 (OP)
>looking back at mmos I've played
GW1 was fun but I was a kid and I'm sure I never fully understood it. I just went necro+ranger and loved having summons and pets. I feel like I missed the boat with GW2 and never tried to get into it so I hope GW3 happens eventually
XIV is fine. I just don't have a lot of time for it and my schedule has me playing at lowest hours so 0 dungeon pops
loved DCUO when I played it, wish it got a sequel. I wish we had a decent modern superhero MMO at all but I guess I'm kind of interested in seeing if Ship of Heroes is as much of a trash fire as it looks?
Ashes of Creation also looks like a total scam but I'll still watch and see what happens with it

>>720121396
Did you at least have fun up until then?
I need an MMO to nolife solo in and it's either this or SWTOR

>>720121360
Doesn't ToF have that kind of? I only played it for a few hours nearish world-release but I vaguely remember coming across random people while running around the world.

>>720121843
Yeah, it was very good and even though it's technically old many areas have this great aesthetic vibe.
Right now there's a code that gives you everything more or less until lv130 or 140 btw.