Thread 720079817

ITT: Pleb filters.

>>720079817 (OP)
No one should get stuck on Lace. She's literally just your Hornet 1 fight, her fight was even designed 6 years ago for the demo, which is why it's the only fun fight in the game because they made it while they were still in the Hollow Knight mindset and not this dogshit every boss should be an Ascended Pantheon fight.

>>720080647
Why does the game just pause when they block/parry or is it just this shitty webm?

>>720079817 (OP)
you mean beastfly

>>720080873
Widow is much better imo, potentially in the top ten across both games, I'll need to finish silksong first thougj

>>720081223
It's for emphasis. Could be for style points or to make it clear to the player that they successfully countered the attack.

>>720080647
I have never used parry intentionally and it doesn't even look much better than waiting and sprint attacking

>anyone getting filtered by Lace
Is this true? Because that will erode mostly complaints about difficulty for me. I will swiftly ignore most bitching if people are getting filtered by fucking Lace.

>>720080647
LUDO

>>720079817 (OP)
I don't think I got this boss fight

>>720081223
unity engine feature

>>720079817 (OP)
REAL PLEB FILTERS
>beastfly
>The Last Judge
>Splinter Sister
>All of Bilewater
>Every mandatory parkour segment
>Literally every food quest ingredient
>The farfields arena
>The greymoor arena

>>720079817 (OP)
I just beat her and I have the sprint
has the game started yet

Just died to Sister Splinter for the first time, how angry am I about to be?
Shellwood actually feels like HK finally and I'm having fun exploring, I sure hope there isn't some absurd ramp up in difficult platforming.

>>720079817 (OP)
>>720080647
I wanna fug those bugs.

>>720081531
The game starts twice
>once after you get sprint
>another time after you help the next town

>>720081543
Sister splinter is a silk management fight, use spear on the adds (it one shots) and simply avoid her other moves since they're rather easy to dodge. If you ever have to heal it might be over, since you won't be able to one shot the adds.

>>720079817 (OP)
I think lace was the only boss so far that I beat in one try.

everytime I get to a boss or level where I think "oh I saw everyone saying this was hard" and then I first try it.

I didn't finish hollow knight but I got silksong and it's a lot more fun already
why

>>720081624
BRO? YOUR REAPER CREST?????

this guy for some reason
i think some people might be retarded because if you pay a little attention you'll notice you can walk below his very telegraphed jump and then hit him...

>>720081681
Silksong has better progression, equipment systems, combat, and map. I haven't finished the bosses so I wont comment on that, I will say nothing comes close to HK music yet

>>720081484
I really don't understand people struggling with pogoing in the game but I'm only at judge so Idk maybe some horror tier platforming is coming soon.

>>720081802
This guy is even easier than Lace.

>>720081802
for me it's the the mini boss rush after this where if you die you have to do the parkour segment every time

>>720081802
This guy alone was ezpz but with the flying spearchucker I got really pissed.

>>720081698
NTA, I just beat her exactly like he did. What did I miss?

>>720081802
I had trouble with this guy at first because I was trying to out-range his swings and swoop in for hits in between swings, but if you do that you get fucked by his jumps since you can't move backwards or under him fast enough to avoid getting hit. I imagine that was the problem most people had.

About 6 hours into the game and outside of the annoying double damage shit the fights haven't been too bad outside of beastfly and wingmoor or whatever the fuck its called having a slightly annoying runback.
Music is somehow even more bland than before and none of the environments have stood out to me. I'm confused about why the devs felt the need to include fetch quests and the rosary jewery is getting old already.
The dash is fun though and has made the game already more fun to control than hollow knight. Also am I just retarded or is the map lady a pain in the ass to find in this game? Feels like its so easy to miss her especially when she's doing the quiet version of her humming. I already hated HK's map system and this is making it even worse

>>720081921
>mfw technically did it first try because the last enemy died at the same time I did
Does the hunter lady say anything after the fight? Because she pissed off immediately after my death and I saw her normally later on

>>720081624
>use spear on the adds
Storm is way better for that fight
>Can one shot two adds at once without needing to line them up
>Clears half of the screen of vines very quickly during phase 3 or if you just get overwhelmed
>Has a good chance of also hitting the boss whenever you use it for either of those things

>>720082190
Map lady leaves behind bronze circles when she's close, if that helps. Till I beat the next major story boss from where you are I felt samey about the game, after that boss it seems like TC put more effort into a lot of things, especially actually giving rewards for doing stuff.

>>720082190
>Also am I just retarded or is the map lady a pain in the ass to find in this game?
You might be retarded. Her singing is fucking LOUD and she drops those little golden rings near where she's set up to let you know she's nearby.

>>720082335
Wasn't even aware you could get storm before the fight

>>720082418
I feel like she does a loud song when she's just standing there but when she's sitting down she does a significantly quieter version. I am retarded for not noting the correlation between her and the rings though, I just never connected the two for whatever reason.

>>720082418
AHHHHHH LAI LAI LAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>720079817 (OP)
The boss itself or the transbian relationship between the 2?

I just finished Sinner's Road and Bilewater in one slow run because they don't gove you a fucking bench. And after I finished I backtracked and died because it's full of dead ends with no loot. Genuinely ten times worse than Blighttown, one of the worst areas I've ever played. I've seen people complain about Hunter's March, but Bilewater sucks a million times more. 7 years to make, wowie zowie.

>>720079817 (OP)
Just how shit are zoomers at video games to get filtered by that guy?

>>720083191
bilewater is quite literally built around having double jump, I have no idea why TC put the other end to act 1 there, and have no idea why there's 1 (1) bench in bilewater

>>720081543
Just focus on killing the minions fast, it’s your only problem, the boss itself is basic af

So far I've found three places where I need a simple key and from what I can tell I can only buy one in the starting town. How much of a pain in the ass are these things to find and are any of the rewards worth it?

>>720079817 (OP)
Lace is basically just reskinned variant of a REGULAR enemy type you fight before her with just a few new moves and more HP. If you're able to kill those guys you very much can beat Lace with little issue

>>720079817 (OP)
I beat her on the third try. Almost every boss I could beat by attempt 3-4. I’m currently filtered at Moorwing at like 10+ and I’ve lost all interest in continuing

>>720083573
Not sure about the rewards but they aren't too bad to find, two (or more idk) are just laying in the world in semi hard to get to spots, and two more (or more) are sold by other merchants.

So is it true? Is she gay?

>>720080647
She looks so slow to me now after doing her second fight

>>720083891
it's an indie game, of course she's LGBTQ+

>>720081802
Yeah he took me a bit to figure out. You can also use the scenario in your favor

is killing Groal worth it
even after finding the closer bench it's still the worst runback in the game so far, redoing the enemy arena before each attempt is complete bullshit

That lava escape in far fields was cancer. For some reason that first crumbling platform kept filtering me, like I couldn't reach it and I kept overshooting it.

>>720081415
I think OP is just shitposting, I haven't seen anyone mention her.

>>720083338
Wtf, I don't have double jump. Why the fuck would they do that? I could basically choose between going past wormway or go up from greymoor and they decided to shit directly in my mouth for that decision.

>>720083338
>>720083191
Is there even a bell station there? Because there wasn't in Sinners

>>720081802
>the entire asscancer area behind this bozo filled with retarded fights and annoying runbacks gives you nothing but a shitty crest
BRAVO TEAM CHERRY

>>720082190
You can summon the map lady in the main village

>>720083815
just stick close to the mound between the arena and water anon it cockblocks most of his moveset

>>720079817 (OP)
i beat that boss on my 2nd try.. seemed rather easy, kinda like HK's first hornet fight but a bit more PAZAZZ

>>720081415
Idk, I saw people bitching at Bell Beast, so I don't doubt it.

>>720085147
No, you have to finish Sinners and the next cancerous area before you get a bell station and a bench

>>720081223
It's to give the player time to react. Most of the time you aren't going to intentionally parry an enemy swing, you're going to try attacking and accidentally hit their attack. If there wasn't a slight pause, the enemy would continue their attack and most likely hit you before you had a chance to get out of the way.

>>720080647
The game was a parryslop all this time.

Just beat sister splinter and widow
Fun fights, still very fair and satisfying, I liked parrying the balls on widow

>>720085437
Lol

>>720081802
this guy is the obvious "you should probably get some power up and come back" guy
I'm actually astonished at how it seems like so few people put that together

>>720081802
I bruteforced him without the dash and he killed me more than any actual boss.
Bar the savage beastfly, fuck that thing

>>720086096
You don't need shit, you can just kite him along the corridor, you are not locked into an arena fight

>>720079817 (OP)
I did it first try for some reason, I'm not even that good. Surprised myself for a bit.

>>720079817 (OP)
>>720086326
People who get filtered in this game don't know how to exercise their free will. I have to believe people are drones to be complaining this much about the game

how do i get the map seller to fight alongside me?

>>720086829
I think if you get too many of the movement upgrades, Shakra doesn't jump in. I had the dash+float, and she just sat around.

>>720087132
took me like an hour to beat that one room in hunters march because of it. then i saw some videos online other people are beating it with shakra's help

Big unlocks being locked behind Mount fay and the courier rash delivery bullshit was the final filter for me. No desire to open the game again.

>>720079817 (OP)
I only lost to her once.

Once you get dash, the game stops being bullshit hard and is just challenging

>>720079817 (OP)
playing this game for 2 days straight gave me eye strain, this has never happened before even playing HK. i just started getting slightly blurred, unfocused vision sometimes.

>>720086096
You don't need anything, you can cheese it by just getting him to follow you back of the narrow entrance to the room, from there, he can't jump and you can beat him

>>720086517
I've noticed I'm good at boss fights that are like a duel. Chaotic ones with falling rocks and mobs are a different story.

The room in Far Fields where you only have two sinking platforms in lava and have to fight a bunch of enemies is kicking my ass

>>720087671
It's probably the constant dark zones. Even Hollow Knight had some nice bright areas.

I knocked her into the lava and thought I just permanently killed a major story character lol

Just got to Shellwood, lads.

>>720089125
Did you get the Magma Bell from Deep Docks?

>>720090171
That doesn't protect you from lava.

>>720090363
It makes you lose 1 life instead of 2.

>>720089242
i havent played in hours and i still have it when looking at screens
is it over for me

>>720079817 (OP)
One of the easiest bosses in the game desu.

>>720084092
second fight is a joke after doing lost lace

>>720090616
That will help, but just about every enemy in that tiny room does 2 damage

I am getting crazy filtered by Moorwing. His telegraphs and patterns are easy but he does so much damage.

>>720090685
Just go get your eye lasered or something

>>720090685
Maybe
Get some glasses

>>720093408
i wear glasses but i got a new prescription in july and they said 'give it time to adjust' and it was mostly good until two days ago and the only thing thats happened in those two days differently is i started playing silksong
so i think silksong did this or my body did this in reponse to silksong

>>720079817 (OP)
it's amazing how this game is exposing all the shitters

>>720089125
You're just having issue with the ones that spit right? They get one shot by the bomb, if you dont got an equivalent tool I might imagine Silkstorm is good for dealing with them.

>>720081484
>>beastfly
I mean it was a bit annoying when he'd RNG summon 3 enemies at the same time or when it looks like he headbutts the fat enemy but it doesn't die, but it doesn't take very long to get a run where he barely uses the summon
>>The Last Judge
Hardest boss I've done so far but to be fair it is the act 1 finale and it is also super easy to heal during
>>Splinter Sister
I actually had to look this up thinking it was a late game boss I hadn't seen yet but no I didn't remember this thing's name because I beat it 3rd try not sure why it's on here
>>Every mandatory parkour segment
The only one that peeved me was the one that a bench is locked behind and only because it's so damn far from the previous bench and without a map
>>The greymoor arena
Huh? I literally don't remember anything difficult about this area
The rest you listed I haven't done yet

>>720094467
This

>>720085167
>he didnt find the secret ant shopkeeper
get back in the ant tunnels gaylord

Bird arena is harder than any fight up to halfway through act 2. FACT!!!!

Is it me or is this game way easier than hollow knight? I haven't played the original in like 5 years but I still remember being pissed at shit like king grimm, the beetle knights, the mantis lords more than anything in the equivalent parts of the game as silksong

>>720081802
dunkey beat him

>>720097873
Probably because you got good.

>>720081484
Delete the rest of the list and keep Bilewater. What a fucking scourge that whole area is.

>>720080647
I'm pretty sure this and the fast travel guy are the only bosses I first-tried

literally nothing in this game is harder than watcher knights for me and i'm in bilewater

idk what the fuck people are on about
>>720097854
beat that first try. i just spammed spikes

>>720097375
What's annoying is how the AI makes them dart away whenever you try to get close to melee them

>>720098027
>>720098269
If I just got to Shellwood, how far Bilewater am I?

>>720098615
Bilewater's optional, and it's in the opposite direction of where you're headed. You're going to want at least your next movement ability before trying to get there, though.

>Just materialize 2650 coins out of tin fucking air bro
Whoever said that grinding is not necessary has not passed the first area.

I splurged on the key to the left of the starting town and it was just a shitty crest, already have reaper and beast, and an alternate route to belltown.

>>720081223
Slight bullet time to give the player a window to actually take advantage of their parry, instead of the enemy just continuing as if you did nothing.

>>720081802
Nothing personal kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWKF9665_zw

>>720081484
>>720081543
Splinter Sister was such a fun fight. You are spending the fight just absolutely wailing on her while she wastes time summoning thorns. All the thorns go down in three hits so you can just use her special (the one she uses in the first game) to clear everything out and just go back to wailing on her.

How insane are the speedruns gonna be

and I loved every minute of it

>>720099851
How big of a NEET are you?

>>720099887
i took thursday and friday off

>>720081941
I just spammed spite traps and boomerangs, so the flying guy went down in a couple hits (if not outright died from the traps) and the big guy becomes trivial as long as you don't let him back you into a wall (or the entrance, causing you to restart the whole fight).
The reward was underwhelming, since I was already loaded from exploring.

>>720099851
>TFW only 6 hours in
I do not have the drive to binge vidya anymore.

>>720097854
Bird arena isn't that bad. Worst is the guy with the pin, so spam specials to take him out first.

Testing
>>720099999

>>720081802
I had a lot of trouble with this guy's jump but if you fight him further to the left where the ceiling isn't as high he doesn't seem to do it and becomes very predictable. Almost felt like an intended solution.

>>720079817 (OP)
She's really fucking easy, beat her first try
Weaver is looking like it'll be AIDS and take me some time but I stopped playing for now

>>720080647
Parrying is garbage ion this game.
1. it doesn't knock enemies back
2. it doesn't stagger them or change their state
3. there's a giant hit stop that throws you off so you can't parry combos consecutively like any decent action game.

>>720102083
Weaver is a kino boss fight and entirely fair.

>>720085880
I put diagonal slash on R1 (a map button is not needed, the map is in the menu)
and secondary skill on R3
now the game is infinitely more playable.

Just beat widow.
Took 7 tries. Tough but fair, good fight.

Does this game not have i-frames on the dash?

>>720102673
No but you’ll probably unlock it near endgame anyway. That’s how it worked in the original.

>>720102261
yeah the few tries I played were really fun but very chaotic

Any tips for the wicker man fight with the fucking wisps.

He's got 600 of my pearls

>>720102813
use a crest that isnt the diagonal downard attack and just pogo while dodging

Just got the normal ending. Dammit Hornet, that was stupid of you. You know very well the trouble that trying to bind a God did. You can't do that, it has all the time in the world to take your body and you don't have the advantage that the Hollow Knight had. I hate to imagine a Weaver GOD. Now to search for how to get the good ending. Don't tell me fuckers.

>>720102813
fire resist charm makes a lot of the attacks do 1 damage
if you use reaper crest you can kill the bottom two lanterns really easily just jumping and using the charge attack since it hits in a big upwards arc

>>720102897
>Fire resist
I thought of that but I never bothered getting it and I don't have a fucking crafting thing. Only think I found one so far too

>>720102246
You can parry combos, you just have to mash. But it doesn't matter because of point 1 because the enemies just move into you anyway and you take contact damage. Which is fucking retarded.

>>720080647
this doesnt look fun at all

how do i make this cunt come out now that i opened the door that triggers him?

>>720103793
It is.

I like finding the fleas.

>Beat the beastfly on like my 3rd try
>But widow took me actually a couple hours
I will say this game is fun but holy fucking christ is it tedious to die all the time and even fighting a mook is a chore with how many hits they take to kill

>>720104346
Beastfly took me 10 and Widow took me 7 purely on the 3rd phase. Apparently you can get poison stuff for her but I missed it.
Every other boss has been first or second try so far. I missed Moorwing cause fleas.

>>720104532
I used the flea juice and wanderer's crest and just raped her, pure dps

>>720104137
They are cute but they got into trouble and now they can just zip away instantly? At least the worms had to scoot away kinda realistically...

>>720103726
even more retarded that the enemies have stunned states and the devs were too stupid to know how to turn off contact damage for these at the very least.

>>720081681
HK is a mid 7/10 and its moveset and game design is too basic for how long the game demands. Hornet right off the bat is more fluid and the game immediately demands that you engage with it and provides you with a healthy sense of gear and map progression. It is also obnoxiously too long for its own good but at least it feels good to play while you're wasting your time running through the same areas over and over

>>720079817 (OP)
She's easy and I wish she was harder. Her second fight wasn't that hard either, but I loved the cutscene with Hornet coming up the elevator and Lace sleeping in the flowers.
The only battles that really gave me trouble were, like with many other people, the Last Judge.
From what I found in the game yesterday though, that boss might be optional and you might be able to enter the Citadel from the backdoor? Is it possible to go Sinner's Road, then Bilewater, then the Putrid Ducts or whatever they're called, and then across the bridge into the memorium?
Anyway, this leads me to the second battle that gave me trouble: The boss in Bilewater, mostly for the awful runback. I did eventually find that bench, but holy shit.

I don’t understand. Is Bilewater optional? How can I tell if I’m ready to enter the gate with the Last Judge?

>>720083573
The one in deep docks can be saved for later, the one in bone bottom lets you fast track some abilities. There's a key for the one in Sinner's somewhere in there

What's a good grind spot in act 2, right now I'm using the 3 samurai bugs near Songclave.

>>720087519
Mount Fay loses its lustre when the game makes you climb it like 10 fucking times

>>720081681
Same. I thought Hollow Knight was boring and dropped it after a few hours but I like Silksong. I think it's because the movement feels much better, especially after you get sprint/dash

>>720079817 (OP)
This fight was actually fun, unlike the giant lava robot that should have really been optional. Not sure what they were thinking, making you have to hit the thing 90 times while he keeps spamming the same two attacks.

>>720087519
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/53

You can disable it if you want

>>720105843
>>720083573
I think the one in moss is worth it if you like to fast attack and do old school bouncing.

>>720105837
The Bilewater path is an alternate route that that leads to a different gatekeeper boss. IMO, the alternate path boss is easier and has a better runback. You need the ability to play music to progress through a temporary maze zone leading to the boss.

>get to groal the grate
>2 damage on hit for every attack
>he spawns adds
>while the adds are there the two damage trap swings at the same time
>you have to redo the gauntlet for every attempt
>even the closer bench still has an annoying runback
i might just stop playing

>>720104642
I didn’t find that till after her
Though I just did that against skull tyrant and raped him.

>>720079817 (OP)
??? This isn't a pleb filter. All the main story bosses are fine for the most part, with the final boss being actually incredibly easy. I actually think the hardest 'boss' is the arena with like 10 waves in High Halls. Only time in the game I felt true despair.
Now act 3 on the other hand....

Does the game liberally supply you with enough memory lockets or do I have to make a new save file if I chose to upgrade the wrong crest?

I dumped 2 lockets into the Wanderer because I just came off the backs of beating Hollow Knight before playing this, and I'm wondering if I fucked up by not making Hunter better instead. Now I'm about to unlock Beast and Reaper and unsure if I'll like those but I'd want to be able to upgrade them too if one of them suits me.

>>720084685
You'll need to kill him for the true ending and act 3. If you never get to act 3 you're legit missing like 20% of the game, it's pretty substantial.

>>720079817 (OP)
no one should be filtered by Lace 1

REAL THINGS TO PATCH
>Rosary activated benches should make sense as optional spots to add more rest places during exploration, not placed in the middle of the most dangerous areas
>Some runbacks are just tedious, not hard. A hard boss MUST have a close bench, or at least a proper challenge to make one appear, like in Sinner’s Path
>Some enemies take 6 hits to kill. That isn’t difficulty, that’s just tedious. Feels like hitting things with a wet noodle. Flying enemies in particular should have less health
>More benches needed in certain areas (fuck you, Bilewater)

Everything else is fine

>>720106487
>some enemies take 6 hits to kill
try every enemy once you get far enough. And the last pale oil is locked behind fucking flea completion kek. Tools make Hornet broken but her sword always feels like a piece of shit due to how fucked its progression is

I audibly keked when the big frog suddenly stared throwing hadoukens at me

How in the FUCK do I get to the other side of the Pilgrim's Rest gate. I need this last fucking flea.

>>720106621
Unlock act 3.
You get an ability from The Abyss that allows you to shinespark like from Metroid.
Go to the statue in Hunter's March and use that shinespark ability there. It unlocks northeastern Far Fields.

>>720106137
nvm i beat him really isn't that hard
also cogflys are op as fuck i nuked whatever second phase he had instantly

all this seething over difficulty in silksong just proves that 99% of souls players just summon for or cheese everything and pretend they don't. this shit is way easier elden ring but since theres no built in ez mode with co-op or magic people are suddenly bitching.

>>720079817 (OP)
The whole game seems like a shitter filter.

>>720106692
>Cogflys
>With poison on them
If I enjoyed a boss I stopped using them, because they're the closest thing in the game I feel are "You didn't beat the game" tier. They just melt shit.

>>720106621
The Bell station has a hidden exit go there

>>720106796
THIS WAS IT. IT WAS RIGHT THERE THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. FUCK. I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR LIKE AN HOUR HOLY SHIT.

Is this faster than regularly sprinting

>>720079817 (OP)
honest question: can i expect more of this from this point? this fight was the first thing that actually engaged me so far. the basic enemies and bosses have been bland as shit so far

>>720106885
Yes, there's a fight in Act 3 that's my favorite of either games.

>>720106885
yeah but they won't be as easy

>>720106879
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>720085167
the real reward is fractured mask

Just beat the fabled birdcage first try unless you guys were talking about another one.
They’re pretty easy enemies.

>>720103838
use the wall on the right to jump over and hit him. he'll come out

The best thing about the Lace fight is she just lets you attack. No disappearing into the ceiling/ground, no teleporting away, no flying off screen, no massive attacks you have to dodge. You can just keep hitting her and pogo off her and occasionally dodge the aerial stuff. It's the most pure Hollow Knight fight in the game.

>>720079817 (OP)
I'm just gonna say it because it's irrefutably true, touch damage should NEVER do more than one point of damage. It doesn't make sense that brushing against a guy would gash you for a third of your life.
Touch damage is honestly a retarded mechanic anyways and I'm glad Rogue Legacy 2 lets you disable it in the settings but that's a whole other discussion.

>>720080647
Please delete this.

>>720081543
I first tried her. First boss in the game I first tried. Just stay calm but kill her adds fast.

>>720107847
my favorite part about lace is that your normal hunter pole-vault is completely punished by her flurry reposte. Audible kek when I discovered she can be Wanderer bounced and avoid getting caught as easy as Hunter.

>>720084092
Grimm boss fights type shit

>>720108351
touch damage is fine when your default attack is ranged
when your default attack is a tiny ass melee that's when it gets bad.
and when said touch damage chunks you for a 3rd of your life is when things get straight up fucked

>>720104090
>parryslop
>fun
???

>>720079817 (OP)
No one was filtered by this boss fight. Come on.

>>720108351
I found that pic related helped a lot regarding the touch damage

>>720108351
the game would be significantly better if they just removed contact damage entirely and just made every enemy use swing attacks instead

I'm actually playing HK for the first time and the flower delivery quest makes me want to kill myself.
Do i get anything epic if i somehow complete it?

>>720083228
Underrated post.

>>720108351
I agree in theory but the game is fun so I'll trust that the devs had a good reason for making it the way it is

>>720108351
This piece of shit is the biggest offender in the game. No really tell for when he's going to start speeding up, he just floats around then starts moving forward quickly. You think oh yeah it's going to keep going up so I'll just dash under it or it's going to go down so I'll jump it, but you just get hit instead. Then it summons the fat fuck that does those new grab attacks and you just get hyper fucked on damage.

The HK map appears denser to account for his shorter tiny legs; in terms of density, it isn’t actually much smaller

>>720109192
Git gud :)

>>720109192
>This piece of shit is the biggest offender in the game.
Trust me, he's not.

>>720109103
A warm feeling inside. Just clear the enemies before you do the run

>>720109162
It's because you heal 3 masks instead of 1 now. In HK every hit you took you would have to heal back. It just feels bad taking 2 damage all the time. But in HK you start with 3 HP so you get hit 3 times you die. In Silksong you start with 5 HP so you get git 3 times by a boss you die.

>didn't free the gypsy behind bars in marrow cause I figured I needed a key to break him out
>came back later and he's gone
did I just cuck myself big time or did I just lose some dialogue?

>>720109459
Keep playing :)

>>720081802
>Beat this guy on the third try without any issues.
>Entered the area he was guarding.
>Died to platforming 15 minutes later because pogoing on red tumors requires idiotic down+left/down+right pianoning of inputs against the momentum of your jump.
>Realized I now have to repeat the same 15 minutes to recover my corpse because soulstroons gaslit retards into thinking this is a mechanic that should exist.
>Realized I can just play a good metroidvania like Ori or Dust.
>Uninstalled Slopsong and set up downloads of those.
It's that shrimple.

>>720109162
It's literally my only gripe with the game, everything else feels so tightly designed it's great but when you're hanging on by a thread and jump over a guy or whiff an attack that drifts you into an enemy just barely and it chunks your health it feels like total bullshit

>>720109192
Anon, you are genuinely shit at video games. He has a very obvious tell of when he's about to charge and there is a very easy method to ensure he doesn't hit you. If you can't figure out something so simple then maybe vidya isn't for you.

>>720109649
that anon's a retard but I've had him perfectly line up to where I can't go over or under him before.

>>720081312
Widow is pretty easy though, once you learn her patterns (which in phase 2 doesn't even have any variation, just one single pattern for the whole phase) and learn the safest way to dodge her leap (which can be avoided fully with just one well-timed jump, but it's unreliable). I wouldn't call that fight top10 for sure, she just spams mostly predictable projectiles, the only things going for her are diagonal bells and herself being a 2-mask hitter.

>>720081802
You can just pogo him. The pogo gives iframes so you can phase through all his attacks.

>>720109715
yeah, there is a little bit rng involved in this fight(the adds too), i always keep my distance a bit further except when he is doing the ground slam attack

>>720083237
>guy
That's obviously a brat.

>the whole shard ammo system
>like 3 passive tools worth a damn (most found in act 1)
>single spell slot
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING !?!?
just got to cradle and it seems like those motherfuckers were expanding the levels without expanding rewards, most of the citadel is fucking barren

also: is it cope or do "bladed" attack hurtboxes extend really far?

>>720085167
Beast crest is weird but it rapes in a few specific situations.

>>720079817 (OP)
When’s the patch?

>>720110248
beast is probably gonna be the NG+/speedtrooner crest of choice
>most horizontal movement of the pogos
>lifesteal tank through attacks like last judge's flail spin

>>720079817 (OP)
People think this is hard?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>720110272
Huh?

>Wait a few months
>Pirate game
>1 damage mod
>All enemies drop beads mod
>Any tool in any slot mod
Perfect, the true Hollow Knight experience.

>>720079817 (OP)
kill the blacks kill the blacks

>>720110408
These games don’t get patched?

Hollow Knight had 44 benches
Silksong has 79

What are you people bitching about ?

>>720111129
Now compare the paid benches.

>>720079817 (OP)
She sounds like a sheep that did nothing wrong

>>720110248
it's the dedicated boss-rapist crest for me
stacked with flea juice and fire buff, any boss that stands still for more than a second melts away

>>720080647
It's actually incredible just how low the bar for video games is these days.

>>720103793
He's playing all weird and defensivo to show some kind of point. The game id more frenetical usually.
>>720110272
THISSS!!!
The game needs to be patched ASAP.
All bosses should do four masks of damage so it filters plebs even more and the don't bother ruining videogames anymore.

My biggest complaints about the game so far
>I hate the screen effect at 1HP
>I want a lantern to light dark areas like in the original
Dark areas + 1HP make it very hard to see. I know, I know, dev intent… but the dev’s intent SUCKS for this. Also I think you should be able to grab ledges while in hover mode without having to cancel it but that’s me being lazy.

>>720102707
who's gonna tell him

>>720111667
Probably act 3 if it’s not in act 2. Heard act 3 is bonkers.

>>720111427
Bullshit after-effects need their own option. Even worse than low health, leeches/cold/warm ALWAYS tint the screen when the state IS SUPPOSED to change. Returning from mount Fay is a lightshow with all the blue lights (that don't matter because of the feather upgrade lmao).

>>720111045
There is nothing wrong with the game so far so no, there is no need for a patch.

>>720080647
Lmao so this is the power of silksong…

>>720102246
My favorite is when you parry but then because it's a flurry attack you still get locked and take the hit.

>>720079817 (OP)
The secret boss is so lame it filtered me completely. So gay, lame and dogshit

Playable Lace dlc when?

The second Beastfly fight was super easy whereas I struggled like fucking crazy on the first one. Maybe I was undergeared before.

OHOHOHOHOHOHO

>>720112961
>the secret boss
do you understand how little that narrows it down

>>720113496
This games Radiance.

>>720079817 (OP)
The pleb filter is not buying this game.

>>720079817 (OP)
literally just a diagonal pogo tutorial boss

>>720111230
aieeeeeeeeeeeee pay to win

I want a Hornet image going " I entered the citadel by the pestilent sewers, Why am I covered in leeches ???

>>720099851
based video game enjoyer (currently at 99% completion)

>>720080873
>only fun fight in the game
Retard.

Do I need to play the first game before jumping into Silksong bros?

I didn't break the bird out of prison cause fuck thieves but he's gone anyway. fuck you too team cherry.

>>720081312
Hit the Cogwork Dancers earlier today and really enjoying the fight. Haven't beat it yet and died twice, but the way the fight is, it didn't feel unfair and both deaths were me getting used to the range of their dashes, and not expecting the faster pace of phase 2.

>>720114653
cogwork dancers is one of the coolest fights in the game. easily top 5.

>enter coral tower
>not one, not two, but THREE back to back enemy gauntlets (+ i pressume boss at the end, havent gotten that far lmao)
>if you die restart from the first gauntlet every time
First time I alt f4'd the game out of frustration. Absolute horseshit.

>>720114583
The game is more difficult than the original (imo), and some of the endgame plot expands a bit on the lore of the first game (along with some spoilers for it).
Other than that there shouldn't be any problems with playing this one first

Has anyone got to that enemy rush in the top left of the citadel? Even with the silk storm it takes so long its utter bullshit

>>720114392
How many initial ways to get into the citadel there are? Judge is certainly the straightforward way in. Haven't seen Phantom, haven't found Greymoor/Sinner's way into the Bilewater, do Jailerbugs even spawn before you enter the citadel? Miss me Elderbug, he would have known where to go.

>>720114765
After the third one you unlock a shortcut back to the fourth gauntlet + boss

>>720114889
its so fucked though, especially those goddamn literally teleporting enemies that teleport away from you the MOMENT you get close to them

okay so HK had three (six counting alts separately) genuine 10/10 boss fights with sisters, big sister and big brother. How many does silksong have?

>>720114930
>hornet 2
>10/10
no need to hype up jobbers

>>720114930
i got the regular ending, haven't seen every boss but so far i'd say at least four. first sinner is probably my favorite boss across both games, phantom is incredible, and i absolutely loved cogwork dancers and the rematch with lace.
apparently there's still a huge chunk of the game i haven't done yet so we'll see if that number goes up.

>>720080647
>game never tells you you can parry
>game has no tells on you which attack you can actually parry and which will do 4hp stunlocks

good game

going back in boys
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>720081624
Go back and find storm spear. It is the single most important upgrade in the game.

>>720081941
I'm not sure at what point you did that, but you can do that fight as early as when you get to Hunter's March. It looks like you need the Mantis Claw (or whatever it's called in Silksong) but you can actually just lure the flying enemies to pogo off them and do the fight early. The second jump is pretty tight because you probably end up with two bugs chasing after you in a very small area.
I'm not sure if being able to do that is intentional. I think the only reward I got from doing that fight was a few beads. The boomerang spawned there afterwards.

>>720079817 (OP)
this boss is piss easy.
the stupid fucking fly that spams projectiles in different arcs, is always input reading and moving just out of reach and has 200000000 HP tho is a garbage fucking boss.

I wanna stomp on the tranny nigger dev who made hat one.

>>720080647
>zero positioning required
>it's all timing parry-slop
im tired

>>720104908
There is zero meaningful gear in the first half of the game.
You get one flying spike trap early on and can upgrade your hp bar by 1. The one extra hp doesn't actually help because everything does 2 points of damage. You won't even be able to one shot early enemies with a fully upgraded needle.

>>720106879
>and this is Hornet, she is uh... special

Stupid goober fell into the lava

>>720106879
Zoomers man...they have to play everything like a speedrunner.

>>720106879
Looks like a bnnuy

Is there anything else left to do on the surface besides collect the memento and talk to the Mushroom Herald? I don't want to climb that again

>>720079817 (OP)
This may be where I drop the game, not because it’s too hard but because of how desperately they want me to like this corny ass character with her DMC moveset.

>>720080647
do retards not know this game has parry/block?

>>720116074
You have to kill 10 skinks or whatever they're called for the hunter's journal entry at least

I didn't even die on this boss.
I died to a couple other easy bosses though because of nerves from the run back, but I've been wrecking most of them in one try.
Probably from me doing those bosses in HK where one hit would kill you.

Current pleb filter is Mt Fay. Is there a minimum helth or silk I should have or is it simply skill issue

Got 7 masks and 2 spool upgrades

>>720116574
it's def skill, which you have zero. i'd recommend going back to Animal Crossing and staying there, where you belong.

>>720116612
Mmm spicy

>>720079817 (OP)
>this filters the modern gamer audience
That nigga is easier than hornet in the first game

>>720079817 (OP)
wait, what?
who the fuck thinks lace is hard? Lace is just what hornet was in HK
>she does a jump to dive attack
>hit her in the air, go under her, hit her twice when she lands
>she does a lunge attack
>jump and do a down stab as she goes under you, hit her again when you land
>she does the ranged attack
>jump over it, smack her, jump, do a bounce attack and go back over the projectile

its literally hornet but easier because you have more moves yourself than the vessel did at the same time.

>>720116574
What's it look like?

>>720116574
You shouldn't be taking any damage there, you might want to equip the thing that increases silk regen speed if you have it, otherwise you have to wait a sec between harpooning multiple times

>>720116753
I figured it was a git perfectly good scenario. Yeah I've got that on but I might go grab some spare silk hearts, I feel like I'm short on those above all else. I only regen 2 notches.

>>720080873
TRVKE, she's one of very few bosses I've enjoyed so far

>>720106879
>jumping faster than running
Ghosts n goblins chads we are being acknowledged

>>720080647
im so glad I never gave this game a try. Im so tired of devs thinking "if your game isnt le parryslop... its.... le bad".
I rather play Super Metroid than this molasses turd

>>720115681
Moorwing? I hate him.

>>720116854
It feels like more work than fun. I'm still have some percentage of fun. But damn.

>>720116891
yep.
juts beat him. it was a garbage fight.

>>720087628
this.

Where the fuck can I grind some Rosaries early on I keep coming across map fuck but never have enough fucking MONEY

>>720081802
what's this bug's name? its obviously a boss inspired by the old shinobi games. the dash makes this fight trivial.

>>720080647
I don't really see the point of parrying and didn't do it in this fight at all. I just jumped.

>>720080647
Did people seriously have trouble with her fight? It was cool but it wasn't very difficult. That flying nigger in Greymoor on the other hand...

>>720117269
it's not possible to do this fight without the dash. cheater.
the fight opens the way to the dash.

>>720117407
>with the dash.

>>720117407
no way. I got the dash before killing this dude.

>>720079817 (OP)
>theater boss fight
>my eyes can barely track anything
I won, but now I feel old.

>>720082309
I actually died the same way anon.

>>720117407
>it's not possible to do this fight without the dash
I 100% did it before unlocking either the dash or the floating abilities. Jump away when he's gonna attack and run under him when he jumps. Ideally, lure him in the tunnel so he only attacks.

I can't fucking believe I have to share this board with real actual casuals.

>>720117449
I AM the dash

>>720117658
lol.

>>720117523
>and run under him when he jumps
if he decides to jump when too close to you, you'll just take contact damage trying to run under him.

>>720080873
>now /v/ is pretending HK is good and was good all along after literal years of saying it was shit because it was popular
>because silksong was more popular
holy shit, the rumours are true.

>>720117407
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2561241178

>>720117449
how? you need to kill this guy to get to the dash area?

>>720081870
no, the mechanics never change if anything they get easier.
The reaper moveset is probably the first alt most people get and it makes aerial attacks easier as its a sweep, not a stab.
that means you dont have to be as accurate.

theyre just THAT bad.

people are getting filtered by lace? savage beastfly i understand because of the rng

>>720117875

see >>720117407

I mustve circled around. I came back and killed the big guy after getting dash. I'll have to check the stream footage.

Am I crazy or is the dash/sprint jump delayed?
the regular jump feels pixel perfect, never had one single issue platforming with it or the bounce stabs and such

but the SPRINT JUMP, I swear I ran off of every single ledge for a good while as the thing comes out 0.5 seconds after I jump, I press the button on the end of a platform and just fall, have to press a step or two away from it instead.
going from the tight jump to the sprint jump is just... ugh
I dont get why thatd be by design, but ive seen 0 other people mention it?

>get to sinners road
>pay for the bench
>

>>720081802
i'm pretty sure this guy is there for people to be like "shit i'm too slow to fight this guy" and go get swift step that alone makes this fight a cakewalk

>>720086326
>>720087749
he still did the jump when i lured him back into the tunnel. what now idiots?

I don't even remember dealing with half the shit you niggers are bitching about

>>720118114
Yes it is on a delay

>>720116981
I played hollow knight, took 4 hours before the game became fun after getting the mantis claw upgrade. prior to that its just legit shitty jump and run slop. I played it until like I reached a sewer system and unlocked the double jumpo or whatever and thought to myself "thats enough"

I have fun with metroid 5 minutes after starting the game. I had fun wth hollow knight after 4 hours. DUnno man...

>>720079817 (OP)
>pleb filters
>posts one of the easiest bosses in the entire game
???
widow or judge is a pleb filter, not lace

>>720114653
>>720081312
cogwork dancers are a huge letdown because it looks and sounds really cool but it's very easy, you kill it in like 3 attempts
widow - same, hugging a wall completely trivializes the fight, even her charge won't hit you there

and then there's bullshit like savage fly rematch in lava where the fight fucking sucks but you'll probably need 15+ attempts on this garbage

>>720117995
It took me a while to adjust the pogo jump because every other game I've played it had the attack downwards and not diagonal and I messed it up either by angle or distance/hitbox of the attack (like missing the target because I thought the attack would go further).
It's not that hard so yeah it's just people complaining for being bad

>>720119384
maybe there's a group of players who are worse than plebs?

>>720107329
>fractured mask
>tfw deep into Act 2
>never found fractured mask
I guess I might as well commit to a run without it at this point kek.

it takes one of the most hyped indie games ever for people to remember that not everything is for everyone and that being bad at a game doesn't mean the dev has to address you sucking

>>720120041
I'm using the double damage mod now and I can say with confidence.
No. the game is just shit.
Either you think every other metroidvania is designed wrong and hollow knights time-wasting damage sponge enmesh are good.
or you admit that You're coping and the game is badly designed to waste our time.

filtered bro?
git gud

>Hunter Crest focus
What does this actually do?
>Beast Crest
You guys weren't kidding when you said the pogo was shit.

>>720106290
Yeah. They're burning a hole in my pocket since I don't bother with any of the crests, aside from Hunter.

>>720108351
>>720109192
He's one of the easier bosses and his tells are extremely obvious. Just use the boomerang if you're having trouble with his goons or let him ground pound his own dudes.

>>720106879
I always knew hornet was a grasshopper

>>720120515
Nonono, you don't get it anon, running back to the boss for 5 minutes while dodging flying bullshit and pogoing on bells is TRUE gameplay and if you don't like it you just need to le GIT GUD

>>720122972
this is the same people complaining about not having enough rosaries

Why is "git gud" acceptable when talking about Fromslop games but not for other games?

>>720123165
it's the same thing, fromslop fans justify boring shit all the time with it

Should I play the original first or just jump right into silksong?

What's a good throwing weapon for bosses? I'm at last judge

>>720123307
HK if you like metroidvanias more, SS if you like soulslikes more
>>720123325
I used Sting Shard but there could be better ones

Anyone knows why sometimes when I hit enemies there's a white shine as if I parried their attack?

>>720080647
I didn't bother doing all that.
I just UNGA BUNGA'd with the spike trap, quick attacks from wanderer spam and did jump downslashes on her whenever she had idle time to not deal with her parry, and whenever she did counter me I just dashed off.
Took me like 40 seconds to get the kill.

>>720123307
Original is easier and shorter, and also, it's impossible to like silksong if you didn't like the original, so don't waste your time with it until you know you will enjoy it.
Story wise, not really? Silksong so far it's been pretty self-explicative (i'm half way through), though maybe it is to me since i'm already familiarized with the lore.

>>720123325
All of the seem good. The trap does YUGE damage. The little knives are good for pokes, and the long pin lets you have all the fun of chucking spears. Try out the poison tool if you have it.

This game feels like it has a handicap autismo mod installed by default. Some enemies attacks should make 1 damage, silk generation and usage feels all wrong and the whole heal 3 masks at once deal also is weird.

Dunno why they decided to go this way instead of just putting these options behind charms for the people that want to play this way. It wouldn't change anything really.

Pacing in this game feels all wrong. They should have play tested this more.

>>720123540
>it's impossible to like silksong if you didn't like the original
sorry anon but this is a very dumb take
i dropped HK midway through because it was too easy and had no sprint but beat SS today
the bump in difficulty and mobility is a welcome one

>>720123165
It's not, git gud is never acceptable as a deflector for christicism, it's just trolls and baiting and people fishing for awards on steam forums.

>>720123796
No, you are baiting.
This game assumes you have played hollow knight before. Its more of a dlc of the first game really

>>720123867
>you have played hollow knight before
and i did

>>720123762
>They should have play tested this more.
One of the playtesters was a dev, was always bound to be a shitshow

>>720122972
I am not a fan of everything in SS, but posts like these highlight why it's way more interesting to be eclectic. A completely fair and established game is absolutely consistent and thus predictable. Predictability is the enemy of all things interesting, and I have no doubts plenty of anons bitching about weird shit here also spout platitudes against designed-by-comittee corporate sludge.
You WILL do some running before the boss and you WILL eat shit by stepping into traps and you WILL get put into the slammer, and then you will post LUDOKINO for years to come.

>>720079817 (OP)
I beat her first try...if you can't get past her then you will never finish the game, Figuratively and literally

>>720124559
I'm enjoying this well enough but I can tell I'm gonna finish it then never have the desire to ever play it again

>>720083573
there's 4 simple keys
>1 bought in Bone Bottom
>1 found in Deep Docks
>1 found on Sinner's Road
>last one is in Sands of Karak and the 4th lock is in High Halls, so no getting the key or door for it until Act 2

>>720124559
>You WILL do some running before the boss and you WILL eat shit by stepping into traps and you WILL get put into the slammer, and then you will post LUDOKINO for years to come.
This is it, peak gaming right here
They did it with dark souls, they did it with elden ring, and they'll do it with silksong

>>720117819
HK was always good. Note the actual tourist retards giving it poor reviews leading up to Silksong because they wanted to be in on the hype from actual fans.

>>720123307
I suggest the original first, since Hornet's movement in the sequel is a huge upgrade.

>>720087519
>Big unlocks being locked behind Mount fay
Like what?

Help

>>720129838
Jump and smack it

>>720081374
Parry pushes them to stagger faster.

>>720129838
Just keep slapping his face. I beat him first shot with him only getting a single hit in.

How long does this game take to beat assuming a normal path and minimal side content?

>>720123307
Play HK first. HK is better than SS.

>>720129838
I first tried this guy. The hands are all you have to watch.

>>720116612
TRVKE

>>720129838

Put your Bing Bing wahoo hat on

>>720129352
you get the double jump which is pretty massive

Does this guy show up again later? He helped me in Greymoor and I loved him.

>>720079817 (OP)
First timed her actually. The big fly, fast travel dog and the ant mini boss before were much harder

>>720118149
You can fix it

>>720079817 (OP)
not really, like 70% of players on steam have the achievement for her

>>720129838
Oh child, there are so much worse things in store. I consider this guy arguably the easiest boss in the game outside of the tutorial one.

I hope Bilewater is optional. I hate everything in here

>>720131348
Yeah he shows up later and helps in some fights and is around.

>>720132297
>Webm
Holy kek

Sneed