Thread 720106769

Is SM64 as good as it gets? I’ve never seen anything that compares

I liked how Pseudoregalia played.

>>720106769 (OP)
Tony Hawk games are more fun to move around.

not even close

Completely nontroversial opinion but having a dial a combo side flips, three stage jump combo a long jump does not a good moveset make.
Even in spite of a 20 year legacy originally made out of people pretending it's the most interesting game ever that also invented being 3D, completely absent why people remember it being videos from 2005 youtube where they made mario blue and played scatman john over it.

>>720106769 (OP)
Sunshine's movement is far better than SM64's movement alone.

I love 64 but odysseys movement mogs everything else.

>>720108213
Like 99% of the game all you're gonna need is the long jump or the high jump from stage 2 of the jump combo or any of the dial a flips.

>>720106769 (OP)
DK 94

>>720106769 (OP)
Odyssey exists

>>720106769 (OP)
Dust Force
DK 94
Rayman Origins
Sunshine
Pizza Tower
Sonic 3
Sonic Adventure 1

It's called every Mario game that came out after 64.

>>720108213
>any actions that have to be done in sequence, even as simple as "skid and jump", are "dial a combo"
This board is retarded.

>>720106769 (OP)
Half an A press is all you need

>>720108721
it's one crashfag using the same terminology
don't look into his autism in the archive

>>720108721
Look all I'm saying other than making the high jump deployable on the spot, mario 64 is not improved by having side slap inputs to do the jump you'll mostly use.
They could have just made the standard jump better.
Looks more interesting, I'm sure autists like it.
Doesn't really make the game better.

>>720108939
I played a randomizer where you had to unlock parts of the movement via stars recently and it's insane how much worse it feels without the side jumps.
Try it and you'll see how wrong you are.

>>720109215
>The side jumps are roughly the height the standard jump should be
>Well I played a romhack where you had to unlock them and the game played worse

>>720106769 (OP)
Sunshine
Quake

>>720106769 (OP)
No it's the ROM hacks with better cameras and levels.

>>720106769 (OP)
movement peaked here. a stupid amount of depth with how everything chains together contextually, we really don't need more than 3 inputs and a stick

>>720106769 (OP)
I'd argue Quake 1 has the best movement in a game. Your speed and mobility in general are insane but it controls extremely well. Ironically I think it came out on the same day as SM64.

>>720106769 (OP)
SM64 plays like shit in current year.
If you disagree, you either haven't played it recently, or are tainted by nostalgia, or have have stockholmed yourself into liking it after nearly three decades.

>>720107004
Trvke

>>720110810
Substantiate your claim. Why is Odyssey better?

Sybil is /HMOFA/ approved btw

>>720110896
Who said anything about Odyssey?

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>>720111010
i can feel the excessive magnetism through this webm

>>720110896
>>720110810
OP here, I suppose I mean odyssey and sunshine when I suggest it’s the best movement because they are all similar

i always liked how you could slide and side jump if you quickly turned the opposite direction. is that done in any other games?

For me? It's vehicle transportation in Far Cry games.

>>720110810
>SM64 plays like shit in current year.
Shota detected

>>720110810
It will be easy then for you to offer a better example of movement than Mario 64

>>720111092
What is this again?

>>720108568
Damn shame, too

>>720106769 (OP)
Armored core movement felt better

>>720116880
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk

>>720106769 (OP)
Spider-Man 2 sucks but the movement is peak

>>720106769 (OP)
no

>>720117413
Spider-Man just can’t be good. Mary Jane’s either babooned, insufferable and ugly and he’s got this little fuckin faggotnigger trying to steal his glory.

>>720106769 (OP)
picrel mogs every game posted so far btw

Pretty much. I emulated it about 6 years ago and was blown away by how good it was. Proceeded to emulate Sunshine expecting more of the same but it just wasn't as good.

>>720118385
>TAS

>>720106769 (OP)
Played Pseudoregalia this week and it was okish, Not a lot of tools you actually get and the wallrun is just way too easy. Fantastic feeling longjump tho.
Sephonie feels like playing a Tony Hawk skater game but on foot. Once it clicks all the awkwardness goes away and it turns into a smooth vibe. The checkpoint system you can always recall to yourself helps a lot.
This year Avowed was also really fucking fun to move in. The mapdesign is perfectly tuned to your abilities and the ledgegrab rides that fine line of being just a little broken enough that you can climb up many unintended areas and peak behind the veil of the game.

>>720111010
>rail riding
The mark of the shitty "3d" "platformer". Every garbage entry has these from sonic to ratshit&stank.

>>720117413
Best swinging since the second movie game on top of the perfected fast travel.
Narrative decisions hold the game back but the core mobility still shines.

>>720108213
>side flips, three stage jump combo a long jump does not a good moveset make
Why?

>>720107004
SPBP

mgs gz mogs it

>>720108804
There's no such thing as half of a press, the "press" is obviously when you push down on the button. The release is not part of the "press", so it's a full press.

>>720110810
Just replaying recently, the only thing that has aged badly is the garbage camera and some of the collisions. Everything else remains great.

>>720108939
>>720109295
Normal jumps give you more air control AND allows you to reach the ground quicker if let go.
Side flips not not give you as much air control or the ability to reach the ground quicker, but gives you much higher verticality.

Each of Mario's jumps have different uses and quirks so you have a better way to deal with obstacles with one jump than the other. If you gave Mario's normal jump the quirks of the side flip you'd get really fucking annoyed because it would kill your horizontal momentum just like how if you gave the side flip the quirks of the normal jump you'd be upset because you have all this air control with almost no horizontal momentum.
And even if you would still want his normal jump to have side flip height for some reason, that is a bit ridiculous because where does that end? Should all jumps just be the best one in all situations? I don't think so.

>>720108213
>dial a combo side flips
Are you so retarded that you can't turn around and jump?
What the hell are you dialing? 2 and enter??

>>720111092
That's some disgusting looking nigger there

>>720108213
>dial a combo
pulling the stick to the opposite direction and pressing a is a combo? Can we ban everyone under age 30 please

>>720108568
I hated Odyssey. The levels are all big and uninteresting and the moons are all boring. The only good part was dressing Mario in silly outfits

>>720118385
DIAL A COMBO JUMPS! NIGGERMAN HELP ME

>>720123698
You're talking to a crashfag. That game has 2 jumps, a safe one and an unsafe one.

Surprised nobody has mentioned Gravity Rush

>>720116680
>is that done in any other games?
Other Mario games? Yeah, even the New super Mario bros did it. Outside Mario? Also yes, I can't remember just now but I think a DK game or Banjo has it. Maybe it takes two, I've played a lot of games recently

>>720106769 (OP)
Spider-man games and Arkham Knight are really fun games to just fuck around. I don't know if it counts because it's in a vehicle, but Starfox 64 controls great and is so fast im still impressed.
I can think of some more examples. Hack & slash games like DMC from 3 to 5, Bayonetta trilogy, Vanquish or Ninja Gaiden. In 2D Iga's Castlevania, Megaman X/Zero/ZX. In Gravity Rush you move exactly where you want, some Genshin Characters in Natlan...

>>720108570
>Dustforce
literally just double jump and a midair dash. It uses its simplicity well with its level design by letting you regain charges in the air but to say it has better movement than 64 is wrong
t. over 100 hours in dustforce
>DK 94
never played it but i doubt it
>Rayman origins
Come on, it has a sprint and a jump. It has the most basic 2d platformer movement.
>Sunshine
You could make a case for it but i prefer 64, i think its subjective. Fludd kind of just slows down the game a lot of the time.
>Pizza tower
never played it but i doubt it
>Sonic 3
>SA1
Come on now

>>720124761
feels jank because shit framerate, also probably tons of input lag

THPS3, now that's a good feeling game. THUG? Now that's peak

When was the last time you jumped in real life?