Thread 720110932

wow Expedition 33 is grea-

>>720110932 (OP)
using premade assets is actually pretty common, even for AAA games
it's just hard to notice because the companies tend to contract the asset creation companies and own exclusive rights to the assets they use
but the developers aren't actually making the visuals, some company in china is pumping them out

I hope you grew all the ingredients in your breakfast today yourself. We wouldn't want to be hypocrites, would we?

Don't care still winning GOTY.

>>720111367
>food analogy
Are you selling shilling that breakfast as your own, anon?

What are you even whining about here?

>>720110932 (OP)
OH MY REDDIT!!!!!

>>720111367
your food analogies have no power here, little man. you're 50 years too early to argue about videogames.

>>720111464
>>720111514
explain what's wrong with using food analogies or kys yourself

>>720111558
Eating food is necessary to sustain life which really undercuts any point that could be made with a food analogy.

I didn't grow the ingredients for my breakfast this morning because I need to eat to continue existing, I am not selling the breakfast I made this morning to the public.

>>720111558
They're the only thing americans understand and they don't always apply to the topic being discussed.

>>720111693
you can survive without eating breakfast just like how you can survive without using premade assets
>>720111728
>muh americans
it's the middle of the night in america

>>720111823
>analogy about your bad analogy

>>720110932 (OP)
I've never played Expedition 33, hell, I've never had any interest in playing it. But complaining that it's using premade animations is like complaining that the builders didn't use special nails, or didn't make their own nails, to build your house. Who the fuck cares? It's there to keep the game/house structurally sound, it's not subtracting from the creative design of the thing and even if it was "specially made", that one part being custom-made would add extremely little

>>720111464
>wah wah food analogy
Shut the fuck up. Your input is worth less than a bot post.

>>720111823
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>720110932 (OP)
Some stupid things, like water or clouds, could take a huge time to implement with okayish performance. It would be only better if there was a third-party plugin for them

>>720111693
I can smell pre-fab pellets in your breath. If you can't even eat soulfully, what is the value of your reasons?

>>720111883
mildly hungry (I'm not black)

>>720111863
>it's bad because... it just is, okay? no I'm not going to refute you!!!

>>720111984
>question about breakfast
>immediately thinks about blacks
never post here again.

The game with "scenes" of two character models standing facing each other with writing like:
>"Maelle and Verso discuss the weather." >"Their relationship is now level 1!"
Was lazily made!?

>>720112080
aren't you thinking blacks now, now that you've forced yourself to type out the word?

>>720110932 (OP)
Why don't games just use procedurally generated animations?

>>720112157
i am black.

YOU MUST REINVENT THE WHEEL EVERY TIME

>>720112201
you are? how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>720112243
but i did eat breakfast. what?

man i always thought that working with unity assets would speed up my productivity only to realize that i have to expose myself to someone elses coding habits. never again.

>>720111881
>it's not subtracting from the creative design of the thing
if you actually think this you're sub zero iq

this is indefensible

>>720112201
>>720112243
>>720112278
good show anons, it felt like i was on 4chan again

This shit is the same back in the day when Genshin impact released: Animations barely similar used to call the game plagiarism.

>>720110932 (OP)
those aren't even the same animation, are they?
it's a little hard to see because the camera on the right moves in so close but it looks like she rotates her torso way more and brings her knee way higher, over her elbow which the one on the left doesn't

>>720110932 (OP)
It's good for devs to purchase/re-use generic assets like climbing animations and dirt textures. You shouldn't need to hire 200 Indians to remake simple things every game. Instead you have a small core team of competent developers working on things that actually matter.

>you have to make your own assets!
>NO, you have to make your own engine first!
>NO, you have to make your own language first!
>NO, you have to make your own hardware first!
>NO, you have to acquire your own materials first!
>NO, you have to alchemize your own materials first!
>NO, you have to make your own planet first!
>NO, you have to make your own universe first!
>then and ONLY THEN, can you ethically use it in your vidya!

WTF they didn't use their own programming language and custom CPU architecture, fucking hacks!

I hated this because only up fucking sucks and so did the gestral beach levels

>>720112478
don't forget about the compiler

If you get a tattoo and then die would your ghost have the tattoos?

>>720111464
Do you think food you get from a restaurant is made from ingredients grown in that restaurant?

>>720112524
gestral beaches only give swimsuits right? not worth doing

>only up fucking sucks
what does this mean?

>>720111367
I'm not selling my breakfast under the guise it's all homegrown.

>>720112595
no. it's a stain that gets purged from your soul.

>>720110932 (OP)
Good morning sir

>>720112649
Only Up, the video game, and all of its derivatives with the exception of the rollerblading one and something like White Knuckle/Lorn's Lure which was actually really fun are godwful.
It's basically the same as the gestral beach, random collection of floating shit that you need to jump at and hope that the ledge grab works and that you don't slide off the object.

>asset flippers seething over not having any artistic vision
lol

>spend your budget on gameplay, music and story
OR
>spend your budget on writing your own engine, capturing your own photorealistic grass textures and remaking basic animations that have been done 1000 times before

I'm hungry

>>720112824
>make shit game
OR
>make good game

>>720112454
They are not, but when reality was able to keep a shitposter down?
Next time they will cry that they didn´t create their own engine.

>>720112595
It´s your identity after all. If your ghost is a ethereal manifestation of your body at the moment of dead, yes. Other thing is that if your ghost takes appearance of a time you were more confortable with.

Oh no bros. They used premade assets for the basic animation of stuff they didn't want to spend their times recreating themselves from scratch. It's almost like those are what the premade assets were designed for to begin with.

>>720113010
>It's your identity after all
Wait so if someone is a furry, when they die they will be a fat dicked wolf?

>>720110932 (OP)
The torso twist on the right is significantly more than the left. It's a different animation.
That said, who cares.

>>720112664
Since when did game devs promise not to use paid assets? Because that's like 90% of all assets

>>720110932 (OP)
I have absolutely no game dec experience. How far could I get by just using premade assets?

>>720111237
Why are you lying on the internet you tranny faggot?

>>720113450
prompt chatgpt enough and it can shit out something like this https://store.steampowered.com/app/862990/Survive_the_West/

>>720112389
>Collages aren't art because they use the art of others

>>720110932 (OP)
How does this affect the gameplay?

>>720110932 (OP)
they're not even the same animation, the woman places her right knee much wider when going up

>>720113450
crystal project uses almost entirely store bought assets and it sold very well because of the vision

wow Mario64 is grea-

>>720114137
how the fuck did someone source this?

>>720114503
ai

>>720114503
Those textures were taken from CD samplers most commonly used by japs in the 90s.
Some autist had to buy them in a bulk to dump them and just search for any matches.
https://github.com/Render96/Render96Wiki/wiki/Datacraft-Sozaijiten-Series

>>720114503
The magical power of autism

>>720110932 (OP)
elden ringu ses premade animations from 2009, its ok when from cuckware does it?

>>720111693
>Eating food is necessary to sustain life which really undercuts any point that could be made with a food analogy
Ah so you're too stupid to understand hypotheticals

>>720114503
Even as a kid I noticed that those textures were way too drab for a mario game and were likely just flipped assets.

>>720113587
no lies detected, outsourcing asset creation is common for many dev studios of all sizes

>>720113103
It doesnt mean SELF percieved identity. If you physically modify yourself to look like a furfag, like that one who was pretending to be a lizzard, that appearance would prevail. Same as if you die with one leg off (unless that leg was the cause of the death)
Ghost aren´t real

>>720115661
AAA studios build their own system and assets for their games and they themselves update and modify those and if they decide ti reuse those systems and assets in more of their own games they have all the right to do so because they have employee and department dedicated to build in-house systems and software for their own and that aren't pubic domain and therefore cannot be bought and used by other companies or studios like Indies do by buying assets on public stores. It's very different you retard.

>>720113103
Yes, the Bible says so, verbatim. Read it, you will see.

>>720110932 (OP)
It's has an NTR ending. it's all that matters.
MC getting cucked and forced to live in it is the best thing that happened in video games.

>>720116221
Care to post scripture relating to this?

Flop 33

>>720112664
since when did the devs of 33 claim it was all homrgrown? did you miss the fact that they, for instance, use UE5?

>>720110932 (OP)
why should anyone care?

>>720113878
True. Even if they were considered art, and they most certainly are not, they would be a lazy amalgamation at best. Tell me, cretin. Of what value does a collage have over individual works, that would justify its existence? If anything, you might argue it is entirely detractive.

>>720110932 (OP)
I also wish every small studio game would reinvent the wheel

>its a small 30 people team
>look at credits
>300 pajeets and gooks
ok then

>>720110932 (OP)
What’s the problem young retard?

>>720111728
That's an absolute nothingburger actually.

>>720111464
Do you think restaurants grow their own ingredients?

>>720110932 (OP)
Do games need climbing animations or do they need climbing animations made by their own dev team? If something works, it works. Of course this is the board that still gets mad because a framed photo on a desk of Tali wasn't handcrafted pixel by pixel by virgins in San Francisco.

>>720117126
>30 person AA team outsources some things to jeets
>500 person AAA team outsources everything to jeets
It's all about scale.

>>720110932 (OP)
>is that... A THIRD PARTY ASSET? IN MY INDIE GAME?

>>720118647
>I want every videogame to reuse the same unoriginal assets and have all the same boring character feel and animations

I see anons misuse the term "asset flip" a lot. Buying and using a few assets in your game does not mean you are "flipping" the assets, nor that your game is an "asset flip". Asset flipping, much like house flipping, refers to buying and reselling assets with minimal extra work. In the case of a house that would be some basic interior decoration, painting and plastering etc; in games it means throwing a few purchased assets together into a low-effort game template and selling that. You have a quick turnaround and can even make multiple reskinned shovelware games with the same assets.

Here's a disgusting example of what actual asset flipping looks like. https://store.steampowered.com/developer/anamikmajumdar

>>720111464
Daww, we caught ourselves a hypocrite, it seems

>>720118891
That's not what anyone is saying, althoughbeit. On the other hand that s0ijack encapsulates the OP perfectly.

>>720110932 (OP)
its entirely possible they made a similar animation on their own since it looks the same in every game since Pong, and even if not who fucking cares, THIS is your big "gotcha?" this is worse than the time that guy was trying to tell everyone that every game that copies Alucards run or backdash animation "has those animations deep in its dna" or something

>>720118647
>INDIE GAME

>AI generated content in game
>EWW YIKES YOU DIDN'T MAKE THAT!! ICK!!
>store bought assets
>WOW THIS IS GREAT EVEN IF IT IS A MALE ANIMATION ON A FEMALE CHARACTER BECAUSE THE DEVS WERE TOO LAZY TO MAKE THEIR OWN ANIMATIONS!

>>720119039
>That's not what anyone is saying
But it's what the future of videogames lies in

>>720118972
>Here's a disgusting example of what actual asset flipping looks like.
The average modern Indie games

Anyone arguing that every single game has to make all the assets from scratch is a retard who probably never made anything of they own (not just games like literally anything).
And cant make a valid argument why everything actually has to be made from scratch.

I'm just gonna go to YT and watch all the cutscenes, $70 saved that remain in my pocket.

This shit sure got the indians riled up lmao

>>720119463
>/v/ - video games

>>720118891
>I want every game to have 5x the budget for the same result and spend thousands of man-hours modelling generic rocks and animating NPC idle cycles

>>720111881
it's more like a suburbia. rows and rows of houses, all identical looking. you're trading individuality and uniqueness for cheaper production. if you like that, bully for you, but when it comes to a product like video games, where the novelty of the experience is usually the prevailing reason to buy a game, you'd want it to feel more unique, making it worth the asking price. if every game started using the exact same, default animations, consumers would quickly begin to notice. as a dev myself, I spotted them almost seconds into the tutorial section of the game. notably, the floaty, slippery running animation is a dead giveaway that a dev is using unreal and hasn't spent time crafting their own animation or traversal system, they're just using unreal's stock settings. lots of "AA" games are doing this nowadays and people are definitely noticing, because these games usually fail. A recent-ish example is Flintlocke. Nearly identical walk/run settings, same slip n slide sensation as you turn while running. it's all a fucking joke, talentless devs who have no passion or care for the game they make, just trying to get something made quickly and cheaply.

>>720119360
>>720119598
Literally every single videogame in existence before the spreading of free game engines assets stores where made exactly like that you retarded zoom

>>720119236
Meds

>>720119712
No they weren't lol

Why is it always the clueless ones acting so high an mighty?

>>720119463
Game is like fifty buck tho
Also many of the cutscenes make little sense without the gameplay

GODDAMN DUDE! I LOVE MARVEL DC COMICS SO MUCH! OH MY WAIT EXPEDITION? WHAT DO YOU MEAN FRIENDO? OH I GOT A PING FROM REDDIT LETS CHECK IT OUT!!! HOLY ITS MY FRIEND HE BOUGHT ME AGAME! EXPEDITION 33 SINCLAIRE? I WANTED THIS EVER SINCE I SEEN THE TRAILER!!! DAMN IM GONNA PLAY IT! HOLY SMOKES FRIEND SAYS HERE ITS GOT A GREAT STORY. YOU MEAN YOU GET TO LIKE PAINT FALSE WORLDS AND ESCAPE REALITY BUT SOMEHOW ITS MIXED IN WITH OUR WORLD AND LIKE WATCHING CHARACTERS ARE SUFFERING AND HAVING FUN INSTEAD OF ME EXPERIENCING THE GAME? PLUS LIKE DID YOU GET IT WHITE PEOPLE ARE FOR THIS GAME THEY LOVE IT ITS A WHITE GAME EVEN THO ITS GOT DIVERSE FRANCE WITH BLACKS AND ASIANS (TOTALLY 1800S?? AUTHENTIIIIC!!) WOWZERS!!!! ITS INDIE TOO????? GOTTA SUPPORT THE INDIES MAN. (EVEN THOUGH THEY GOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES AND A BIG PUBLISHER AMAZING RIGHT??? INDIE INDIE INDIE!) MAELLE IS MY WIFE THE REDHAIRED BEAUTY ISNT SHE BEAUITUFL. AND THE MECHANICS! OH MY GOD DUDE REVOLUTIONAAARY! PARRYING IN A JRPG? RIGHT ON!!! I LOVE THAT SHIT! PRESS A BTTON WATCH THE FLASHY MOVES!!! JAPAN AINT GOT SHIT ON DEEZ!!! THE MUSIC I GOTTA TELL YOU THE MUSIC IS *MWAH* I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT LOOOOVEE IT!!!1 I GOT IT PLAYING ON SPOTIFY 24/7 BLASTING IN MY ASSHOLE!!! HAHAHAHAHA! OH WOW THIS GAME IS GONNA WIN GOTY

>>720119196
>Talk like a fucking faggot
>Somehow this would validate my opinion.

>>720119878
>No they weren't lol
>Because I say so

>>720119360
Imagine
>You didn´t build your own car, you are a pathetic driver

>>720119669
>as a dev myself
Why don't you post your original and unique walking and running animations you made for your game?

>>720120039
then stop talking like a faggot, faggot

>>720120143
More like
>You are a car manufacturer
>You didn't build your own car

>>720120267
No car manufacturer makes most of their own components, so it's accurate

The game was literally made because some dude realized the amount of shit you can do with default Unreal Engine 5 shit without needing a big team. This isn't a secret

>>720120139
Yes.jpg
You're clueless dumbo, so explaining in detail would be a waste of time

>>720120458
>This is your brain on brainrot hatewagon
FUCKING RETARD

>>720120595
k

>>720119954
>pic
holy astroturf
when will normies realize?

>>720120405
>No car manufacturer makes most of their own components
False, they usually use components from the same group.

>>720120498
You literally cannot explain something that doesn't exist

>>720111419
It’s a promotional event not a award show, know the difference idiot. Your choice never matter and they are paid to win.

>>720120792
>already coping

>>720120696
Nigger is there a single successful game you don't like that isn't an astroturf?

>>720110932 (OP)
>noooo, you can't just use a premade climbing animation because...
>because you just can't, okay?
I don't get it. Why reinvent the wheel?
This is why western games these days cost 300 gorillon dollars. There is no fucking reason to do work for the sake of doing work.

>>720110932 (OP)
Reused assets do not mean shit to me. Is the game fun? No? Not playing. Simple as.

>>720117769
>AAA team credits their jeets
>"AA" team doesn't
they were really trying to create an image of smoll indie sweetheart with this one

Remember when Lara Croft, Jak and Ratchet all shared the same premade jumping animations?
Yeah me neither.

>>720119954
r u ok lil bro

>>720112282
Based Kengan poster

>>720110932 (OP)
>you're selling something? on the internet?
>did you invent the internet?
>did you invent undersea cables?
>did you invent satellites?
>you made the game on earth?
>did you invent earth?
>did you invent space?
>did you invent The Big Bang Theory?

>>720110932 (OP)
yeah it's full of basic assets and AI generated textures and tards give it a free pass

>>you're selling something? on the internet?
>>did you invent the internet?
>>did you invent undersea cables?
>>did you invent satellites?
>>you made the game on earth?
>>did you invent earth?
>>did you invent space?
>>did you invent The Big Bang Theory?

I just don't understand why that makes the game bad

>>720121597
>>did you invent The Big Bang Theory?
I did. Bazinga!

>>720119954
>I GOT IT PLAYING ON SPOTIFY 24/7 BLASTING IN MY ASSHOLE!
@spotify is this real

>>720122108
There are many movies based on books.
As for the rest, he directed it and brought all those other aspects together.

>>720112746
aha

>>720122385
Somehow this pretty good jrpg broke some people and they're scouring for anything to make their dislike for it justified.
How exactly this game in particular fucked them up is something I'm seriously curious about.
Normally this sort of shittery comes from console war trash like all the prolapsed anuses we saw from botw or Bloodborne . But as far as I can tell there isn't anything special like that here.

>>720110932 (OP)
>Unreal slopa is an asset flip

>pay actor to climb a crate
HALLELUJAH PRAISE ISRAEL
>buy animation to climb crate
WTF INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY

>>720111468
that they didn't build their own pcs from sand, invent their own programming language, invent their own proprietary game engine, evolve microscopic life into humanity, invent the camera, and then motion cap their new proprietary humans.

>>720110932 (OP)
Never ask a turncringe player for gameplay

>>720122108
there's something infinitely funny about how far shad is up his own ass about how he's a better artist than spielberg, studio ghibli, but most importantly of all his brother jazza.

Cheap reddit game.

>>720125806
>rushed/forced slop climb
soulless
>athletic display of peak verticality
i will now traverse your obsticle

>>720120879
I liked this game but the astroturfing is:
1. obvious, similarly to BG3
2. starting to annoy me

>>720110932 (OP)
>>720113587
>Asset stores run solely on the funding of one French developer, guys
Eternally rent-free, btw.

if you didn't build your own engine, you didn't make the game

>>720110932 (OP)
>>720112470
Indians are the ones who benefit from skipping things that take a few minutes to put together.
>saaar! I can't texture! I can't animate! I can't program!

All this proves is that an indie studio can make AAA garbage and turn a profit.

>>720126950
and it should be in asm only

>>720125806
>spending 20 minutes looking for an asset
vs
>spending 10 minutes just making it yourself and maybe going back and polishing it up later

nobody is asking you to let Zionists into your home "temporarily"

>>720122108
AI fags are the most insecure, validation seeking faggots I've seen on the internet. Ironic, considering they bitch about how sensitive artfags are. Which given recent events that this shit is mainly used by jeets it explains a lot.

I love these threads where nodevs accidentally reveal they don't understand the purpose of an asset store.

>>720112478
>that image
i really hate "artist" types, like, no, the rest of us actually like racing because we WIN the daily race more often than not. fucking losers, man.

>curated, carefully prompted, culled and chosen AI-assisted assets used as a base akin to george lucas picking the designs to use from the illustrations the concept artists made
REEEEE AI BAD BECAUSE LE YOUTUBE SHILL TOLD ME TO SAY SO
>soulless generic asset store slop from uncaring mercenary pajeet cretins
...
Pre-Order DLC Garbagia: $33 is nepo baby slop no matter how you look at it.

>>720127668
>nodevs
You haven't made anything of worth and you never will, embarrassing fag

>>720114137
SM64 has one of the fucking ugliest, most unpleasant and least consistent visual styles of any game ever. Not a great argument against asset store slop

>>720110932 (OP)
why would this bother me? i don't care. the character climbed the ledge. it looked pretty realistic. i guess if i saw the same exact animation in many games it might stick out a bit, like the wilhelm scream, but i haven't, so it doesn't.
still not playing it though.

>>720129065
/thread
Really, there's nothing else to be said.

>>720110932 (OP)
Who cares if it's fun.

>>720112278
But conceptualize

What if you hadn’t

>>720128556
Ironic.

>>720128158
You're brown.

>>720111237
ff15 had a literal unedited 1:1 store asset dragon miniboss

>>720112080
It’s a meme dingus.
Some black kid was asked by a judge how’d he feel if he didn’t have breakfast.
He couldn’t grasp hypotheticals.

>>720110932 (OP)
I don't get why /v/ is so hung up on this one free to use asset. Like literally every dev uses ether these or reuses assets from previous games. You have some weird ass autistic tick if you think every single aspect of games NEED to be remade or every game

>>720130089
But he did have breakfast

Reminder this is why anti-AI rhetoric is dumb. There are plenty of aspects of a game that no one gives a fuck about. Do you really care how a game dev got a texture for some wooden door?

As long as the main part of the game that you're playing it for had the effort put in you really shouldn't give a fuck if a dev took some shortcuts on trivial things.

>>720111367
Imagine being at computers

>>720125903
Hideo Kojima did all of this for Death Stranding 2 alone

What does this have to do with game play?

I don't care how the sausages are made.

>>720111693
>Eating food is necessary to sustain life which really undercuts any point that could be made with a food analogy.
One difference does not undercut the value of an analogy you colossal retard

t

>>720111237
fpbp

>>720111367
tp honorary bp
food analogy chad

>>720111881
>construction industry analogy

>>720127906
Roland is a turbo hippie

>wtf the developers didn't even generate their own electricity to run the computers
>wtf the developers didn't even invent their own computers
>wtf the developers didn't even write their own OS to run the game on
>wtf the developers didn't even write their own engine from assembly
See how stupid your argument is?

>>720111881
This line is spoken by the most childish "adults".

>>720110932 (OP)
using store assets isn't bad as long as the game doesn't feel like asset slop which 33 does to me.

sloppy slop slop
keep bumping the thread no one gives a shit about shills, nothing will change
also it's not just the animation or some texture or some other irrelevant shit, the story also is literally ai generated and it shows
this game should be taken as the very definition of slop