Thread 720150464

It's subtle, isn't it?

>>720150464 (OP)
Bucking the trend of labelling the correct answer B, huh? There's still a thread up btw

I don't think anyone will disagree that A is what happens here. It's even observed ingame that portals have a specific orientation with a top and bottom. When you place it on a floor or ceiling, the orientation of the portal changes with the angle. Portals placed on walls are always right-side up, though. Portals do not account for lean.

>>720150464 (OP)
one of these days I'll make a portal simulator just to answer these questions

>>720152112
People have beaten you to the punch. You can simulate whatever you want, of course, depending on your assumptions. That said, they've found that to make *plop* happen, the best way is to make a fling happen and then halt the cube

>>720150464 (OP)
The oval rotates?

The answer is A.) Portals lie flat on surfaces they're attached to at the angle of that surface, so it's pretty obvious they're attached and can rotate. This should go without saying, but the "image" in the portal would also rotate. The whole point is that something goes in on one end and comes out on the equivalent point on the other end. Although in game they always land vertically.

>>720150464 (OP)
What's the rationale for thinking the portal would reorientate on the material?

>>720153829
If you shoot a portal at a wall, and then a ceiling, the one on the ceiling isn't going to be right side up necessarily

>>720153747
>This should go without saying, but the "image" in the portal would also rotate
Why would the portal rotating cause light of what is on the other side to rotate?
The opening has not changed the nature of what is on the other side.

>>720150464 (OP)
>Option C
The portal's position should look like A, but its contents should look like B.

>>720154290
No, but it changes the angle at which the light goes at the other end of the portal

>>720150464 (OP)
it's not subtle at all, it's A

>>720150464 (OP)
None of this is real but I guess A because we are pretending that this "portal" is "attached" to the square in some way because if you shoot the gun at the square and the contact with the square creates the portal, the portal is created in the square so in a way it is part of it? IDK. Lol.

>>720154290
It's not a simple hole you simpleton

>>720153829
The rationale that you're just rotating a hula hoop, I presume

>>720154535
Wat

>>720155382
Brave of you to not say what it actually is then if I'm so wrong.

>>720154290
the stuff on the other side isn't rotating. think of it like a screen. if you rotate a tv does the content rotate with it? yes. does the real world stuff they filmed rotate because you rotated your tv? no.

>>720154535
the kind of answer a generous math teacher might give half a point for. at least you did better than saying B. but not by much.

>>720156132
But it's not a screen, there is no barrier releasing light.
You rotate a doorframe and the light wont suddenly rotate around.

>>720156267
the portals are ellipses, so they have a definite orientation. each region on one ellipse is mapped to the corresponding paired region on the other ellipse.
that means if you rotate one portal, what you see through the portal also rotates.
it's like a texture map.

>>720156267
the portals literally teleport things, including light.
>You rotate a doorframe and the light wont suddenly rotate around.
a door frame is not a teleportation device connected to another door frame that may have different rotation.

you could approximate a door frame using two portals by attaching them to each other closely and making sure they are rotated the same way, except facing opposite directions. then they would behave exactly like a door frame. the world's most expensive door frame.
but the portals in Portal DON'T have the same rotation as a rule. you can put them on walls that face different ways, you can even put them on slanted surfaces. normally in these discussions it's presupposed that one has played Portal or Portal 2. have you not?

>>720156665
Except portal portals doesn't move you from one space to another they simply make a path between them.
A wormhole is not a teleporter.

It's obviously B.

The eyes of the observer, the observer and the ground (visible through the portal) are not in motion.

In A, it implies that the whole world spins while entangled with a portal, which is absurd.

Portals cannot stick to moving surfaces anyway.

>>720156878
factually what they do is teleportation. that is how they work in-game. Source engine does not support "worm holes".

putting that technicality aside, what's the relevance of the theoretical explanation behind the game mechanic? you can see, plain as day when playing the game, that portals do in fact ROTATE how you see their content. again, have you not played the games?

>>720152112
There is no way to make a moving portal simulator as a moving portal is a paradox that moves the entire universe and doesn't move it at the same time.

We need the shaky-hand anon to post some portal paper experiments again.

>>720157142
the entire Earth is moving at all times. all portals you have ever seen were moving.

>>720157293
But they don't move relative to each other.

>>720150464 (OP)
it's A because your exit portal (the perspective) hasn't changed

>>720156267
it is. if it wasn't a flat, projected image then you wouldn't be able to see what's on the other side

>>720157418
but if we've established that they can move then where is the problem with sticking one to a moving surface?

>>720157418
Neurotoxins, moonshot

You are seeing from the perspective of a static orange portal which does not have any disorientation to its environment. The orange portal does not rotate and can only show you B.

>>720157257
Everyone knows that, already (at least anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together). These threads are just here for shitposting. Most of the people here are in on it. If you're not, then I got some bad news for you.

Unless... Were you merely pretending to be retarded?

>>720157142
>In A, it implies that the whole world spins while entangled with a portal
No it doesn't

>>720157257
M8, your problem is with portals existing at all; being able to entertain part of an impossible hypothetical and then dismissing part of it on the grounds that it's impossible is just moronic

>>720158072
that implies that what is inbetween the portals is one giant tube which can't be the case because the path between the two portals is not a straight line. if you go by the theory of space/time folding then if one portal were to rotate then there would be points where half of the portals were covered by eachother and it wouldn't make sense for a portal to be able to rotate at all

>>720150464 (OP)
I'm going with A

>>720150464 (OP)
>place portal on stationary wall
>place portal on rotating panel
>run through as rotating portal is upside-down
>break your neck

rotational portal puzzles are a nice change of pace imo

How many fucking times are we going to have this thread? Don't you get tired of bickering about the exact same topics like a bunch of dementia patients?

>>720159834
We're mostly bots padding the plummeting engagement of 4chan as whole with endless reposts and ritualposting.

>>720159773
Same idea. Infinite energy. B fags explain this
It can actually be explained, buy you guys are too dumb to do it

>>720160710
Fuck you even on about

>>720161029
You don't even understand the problem, huh?

>>720157257
this is so fucking dumb a is correct retard

>>720161147
No thanks to your shitty diagram
But I am drunk and my girlfriend is distracting me
In your defence

>>720150464 (OP)
Can't you replicate that one in the game?
>shoot a portal on the wall
>shoot another portal on a platform
>shoot a second portal on the platform after turning a few degree

>>720150464 (OP)
Clever anon. Very clever.

>>720161727
no kidding, this thread is making me reconsider how much I hate women because I'm certain there are no more than 1 in a hundred women in this thread, yet look at the responses.

>>720151163
not balanced for lean

>>720160710
What's the question? It's already explained in the image.

>>720152112
https://www.construct.net/en/free-online-games/moving-portal-toy-33487/play

>Decide to put portals in my Sci-Fi world instead of teleporters because I don't want to deal with pseuds who'd obsess over the fact that teleportation actually kills you and recreates you.
>Now I've got to deal with this shit
Nothing can ever be easy

>>720163248
just make portals that don't attach to surfaces

Portals are a science fiction physical impossibility.
Any arguments on how real objects would interact with them is moot and solely up to the headcanon of the writer.

>>720153829
The portal keeps its orientation since it seems to have to attach itself to a specific material, and if the material moves it does as well

>>720164415
>implying

>>720157668
>Anon can't see through a open window because there isn't a plane of glass to let the light through

>>720164725
Implying you didn't post more science fiction

>>720157257
Retard, what you see through a portal is only a picture, they do not make things exist twice.
Relative velocity between the man and the cube is 0 before it passes the portal and 1 after.

A-fags are appleless. Simple as.

>>720164725
spore's ending fucking sucked

>>720164725
>claims we have """proof""" of 4d objects
>can't even give proof of 2d or 1d objects
inb4 a jpg of a circle