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Anonymous No.720150886 >>720151198 >>720151509 >>720156470 >>720156551 >>720156654 >>720157681 >>720159025 >>720159296 >>720160037 >>720160939 >>720161362 >>720161387 >>720165091 >>720165958 >>720167070 >>720170762 >>720172369 >>720173238 >>720174508 >>720177591 >>720181017 >>720187359 >>720193676 >>720196629
>This kills the retrofag
Anonymous No.720150986
fake retrofag*
Anonymous No.720151010 >>720151157 >>720153620
SMEAR: ON
AI: PROMPTED
YEP, IT'S RETRO TIME
Anonymous No.720151027
Based and lookin good pilled
Anonymous No.720151057 >>720151247 >>720156709 >>720182653 >>720189912
LOOKIN' GOOD
Anonymous No.720151085
>only Z lives left
SONIC BE CAREFUL
Anonymous No.720151157 >>720189923 >>720194779
>>720151010
>He thinks it's AI
That filter on the right is probably older than you
Anonymous No.720151198 >>720156662 >>720157151 >>720177591
>>720150886 (OP)
Anonymous No.720151247
>>720151057
perfect for gorgeous looks
Anonymous No.720151262 >>720170575
It's true do
Anonymous No.720151509
>>720150886 (OP)
look at the tube on the left and tell me with a straight face xbrz looks better.
Anonymous No.720151570
Someone post the mario gif with interpolated animations.
Anonymous No.720153620
>>720151010
supereagle has been around for decades anon
Anonymous No.720156287
Anonymous No.720156470
>>720150886 (OP)
I actually like the way right looks. bilinear looks like garbage though
Anonymous No.720156551 >>720161618 >>720198501
>>720150886 (OP)
Yup, its Retro Time.
Anonymous No.720156654 >>720168572
>>720150886 (OP)
Anonymous No.720156662 >>720157151
>>720151198
fixed that for you
Anonymous No.720156709
>>720151057
to me this just looks like my screen is dirty and I need to clean it
Anonymous No.720156850
Anonymous No.720157026 >>720168051 >>720168327
I feel like old games are just ugly. You either look at them on your screen without any filter and it's a pixel mess or you put a bunch of dark lines all over your screen and it still looks like shit but it also makes your screen really dark.
Anonymous No.720157151 >>720161313 >>720168572 >>720174185
>>720151198
>>720156662
Anonymous No.720157335 >>720157421 >>720157439 >>720159095 >>720166160
I like CRT filters, but why do they always make them so dark?
Anonymous No.720157421 >>720158176 >>720158618 >>720166324
>>720157335
skill issue and get decent hdr monitor
Anonymous No.720157439
>>720157335
because it puts a bunch of black schmutz on the screen to give the illusion of blending everything together
Anonymous No.720157681 >>720182832 >>720187094
>>720150886 (OP)
3/4s of this site now is just someone thinking up something retarded, and then they pretend they're serious about it.
Anonymous No.720158041
You fags are so obnoxious and then gobbled down Elin's filters, mixels, 1.5x scaling, every pixel art sin just jammed in.
Anonymous No.720158176
>>720157421
I'm too poor and one bad day away from a bullet in the brain, I'm just trying to enjoy games or food or whatever else while I'm still here.
Anonymous No.720158618
>>720157421
Why? CRTs are SDR.
Anonymous No.720159025
>>720150886 (OP)
>xBRZ
disgusting
Anonymous No.720159095
>>720157335
Because retards don't know how to adjust the gamma to account for the line darkening.
Anonymous No.720159296
>>720150886 (OP)
LOOKIN’ GOOD
Anonymous No.720159559 >>720182351 >>720182556 >>720182948 >>720183337
CRT filters are a false nostalgia because they didn't really look that dark and fucked up. You're not remembering some aperture grill here. An NTSC/TVOut style filter or shit like that is more "accurate" for blending things together to soften the image.
Anonymous No.720159873
>in a room with multiple CRTs
>noticeable flickering all at different refresh rates
>ocular migraine intensifying
Oh yeah. It's gamer time.
Anonymous No.720160037 >>720178397
>>720150886 (OP)
Anonymous No.720160939
>>720150886 (OP)
Nah, I emulate all my games on a CRT via component @ 240p.
The image is crystal clear.
Anonymous No.720161313 >>720174185
>>720157151
What is this, tho
Anonymous No.720161362 >>720169889 >>720170201 >>720178271 >>720188424
>>720150886 (OP)
>Genesis
>Horrible dithering unless you use a crt with a shitty RF signal

The developers intended for you to see all the dithering for sure
Anonymous No.720161387
>>720150886 (OP)
How the fuck do you know what the developers intended? Where you there? Fag
Anonymous No.720161618
>>720156551
>jumping flash
I played it recently, still a really cool game.
Anonymous No.720161792 >>720166329 >>720174703
Should I spend 75 dollars plus (pic related is 125 dollars) for a piece of shit like pic related lol? I guess they are so expensive because of the degauss feature. We've lost the technology on how to do that.
Anonymous No.720165091
>>720150886 (OP)
i dont get it?
Anonymous No.720165958
>>720150886 (OP)
The fact of the matter is pixelart was always a limitstion of the technology of the time.
If somehow we had HD resolutions before advanced video game graphics, classic 2d games would have absolutely looked like drawn artwork or vanillaware games.
Anonymous No.720166160
>>720157335
Because filters are sn overlay of shaded lines to imitate the scanline look.
What you need is a shader that actually transforms the image pixel by pixel while retaining the natural brightness and saturation
Anonymous No.720166324
>>720157421
retard
i mean i have an OLED with HDR and highly recommend it, but HDR has nothing to fucking do with the thread
Anonymous No.720166329 >>720167018 >>720167076 >>720178325
>>720161792
dude wtf
pick one up off the side of the road, or ask your grandma if you can take the trash out of the attic
Anonymous No.720166568 >>720166940 >>720167076
just get a crt if you play retro games they cost nothing
Anonymous No.720166940 >>720167443
>>720166568
Where? Used shops charge a premium.
Anonymous No.720167018
>>720166329
>pick one up off the side of the road
This worked maybe as late as 10 years ago but there aren't nearly as many floating around anymore. I've seen only seen one out in the wild in the past few years and it was raining when I saw it so it might as well not have existed.
Anonymous No.720167070
>>720150886 (OP)
This shit isn't even real. This is some kind of false reality children have made up. CRTs always looked shittier.
Anonymous No.720167076 >>720167291 >>720168841 >>720174042
>>720166329
>>720166568
Anonymous No.720167291
>>720167076
Over $300 for used monitors. Costs nothing he said.
Anonymous No.720167443
>>720166940
If you're sneaky and fast, they're still free in used shops
Anonymous No.720167743
Casually marries retrofags to zoomers.
Anonymous No.720167838 >>720168189
Anonymous No.720168051
>>720157026
Try a real CRT some time, they're quite vibrant when you get the picture adjusted well. It doesn't come across on camera well, that's just how it is.
Anonymous No.720168189
>>720167838
i don't respect any so-called "man" who hasn't busted multiple nuts to this image
Anonymous No.720168327
>>720157026
Anonymous No.720168572 >>720168909 >>720170590
>>720156654
>720157151
too fucking dark, moron. increase the gamma. and make the scanlines less noticeable
>>720157151
>visible scanlines
vomit
Anonymous No.720168841 >>720169423
>>720167076
kek i tried to search for "old pc monitors" on some market website here and get tons of good crt monitor results at 5-10€, then i tried to search for "crt monitors" and cheapest i found was 50€, usually with the word vintage or "retro gaming" in the title
you just need to find someone who's not trying to grift the whole "retro gaming" crap
Anonymous No.720168909
>>720168572
>Scanlines are le bad
Anonymous No.720169423 >>720171479
>>720168841
When I did what you said they got even more expensive. I'm just gonna go to some thrift stores and see if they have any in the back collecting dust. I feel like you could make a business out of flipping these things if your autistic enough. Like fly to some South American shit hole and pick up all monitors on the side of the road, dust them off, come back and then sell them for 70 bucks each.
Anonymous No.720169889
>>720161362
the dithering argument is always retarded because there were plenty of games full of dithering that were only released on systems that didn't use crt technology on their screens such as gba
Anonymous No.720170201
>>720161362
>RF
wow you must hate yourself. composite is infinitely better
Anonymous No.720170575
>>720151262
Square Enix deserves to die. Fucking out-of-touch retards
Anonymous No.720170590
>>720168572
At normal playing distances, scanlines and CRT masks are barely noticeable. All the complaints come from people who game like this. I blame keyboard players.
Anonymous No.720170762
>>720150886 (OP)
who cares about what the developers intended? what matters more is giving players what they actually prefer
left is better
Anonymous No.720171479
>>720169423
>Like fly to some South American shit hole and pick up all monitors on the side of the road, dust them off, come back and then sell them for 70 bucks each.
with what, a fucking drug boat? CRT's are heavy as shit
Anonymous No.720172369 >>720189724
>>720150886 (OP)
CRT shaders are great.
Anonymous No.720173238
>>720150886 (OP)
They literally didn't intend that
Anonymous No.720173918 >>720174085
FILTER LIST OPEN
FINGERS READY
REGEX ENTERED
This kills the/i;op:only;boards:v
YUP, ITS NEVER FUCKING SEEING THIS KIND OF FUCKING THREAD EVER AGAIN TIME.
Anonymous No.720174042
>>720167076
Those are all monitors. Not needed for classic 240p games.
Anonymous No.720174085
>>720173918
>This unalives the easily annoyed anon
Anonymous No.720174185
>>720157151
>>720161313
its Princess Crown, and it's not very good
Anonymous No.720174451 >>720174649
This thread is so retarded.
Everybody had a CRT monitor 20 years ago.
Devs knew everybody would be playing on CRT so they designed it for CRT.
"Flat Screens" were the big new thing being introduced that everybody wanted and thought was better. And so were Compact Discs.
Is anybody here old enough to remember when everybody thought CDs were going to be the next big technology? Literally every single PC game was on a CD just like consoles but now consoles are like the only thing left that even uses CDs anymore, everything is just streamed or downloaded now lol.
Lol.
Anonymous No.720174508
>>720150886 (OP)
I don't care what the devs intended. I play with what I like.
Anonymous No.720174649 >>720174785
>>720174451
>Everybody had a CRT monitor 20 years ago.
Mate 20 years ago was 2005. You think I was running Windows XP on a CRT?
Anonymous No.720174703
>>720161792
low end crt.
Anonymous No.720174785 >>720174987
>>720174649
Unless you had a laptop, yes.
Anonymous No.720174794 >>720174851 >>720174947
>forgetting the most important
Anonymous No.720174851
>>720174794
ah yes, 480i SMW
Anonymous No.720174938 >>720175153 >>720189827
CRT FILTER: COMPOSITE CABLE MODE, EXTRA DIRTY (fly on screen simulation)
AUDIO: BITCRUSHED DOWN TO 5KHZ WITH DYNAMIC CLIPPING
INPUT LAG: BUTTERY SMOOTH 500MS
FPS: BEYOND LIMITED (12FPS)
RENDERER: SOFTWARE (hand coded by enslaved XSI developers)

YEP, IT'S TAILS ADVENTURE TIME
Anonymous No.720174947
>>720174794
Mario if he bob deinterlacing
Anonymous No.720174987 >>720175067 >>720175091 >>720182896
>>720174785
Shit no dude, I had a 480p flatscreen. Thou peasant.
Anonymous No.720175067
>>720174987
Only 480p? In 2005? What were you playing on there original Xbox?
Anonymous No.720175091
>>720174987
not all us were balling. i had to load my shit on cassettes and use a crt.
Anonymous No.720175153 >>720189827
>>720174938
for extra immersion:
youtube.com/watch?v=xaK1v6dfWbk
Anonymous No.720177419 >>720177717 >>720177946 >>720178112 >>720180118 >>720181017 >>720181531 >>720185887 >>720194115 >>720198217
Stop pretending to play retro games and actually buy a retro console and grab a CRT off of facebook marketplace. Replace the capacitors and install a scart outlet and calibrate the geometry. Anything that's not original hardware, through composite or scart (no FPGA) are fake experiences of retro games.
Anonymous No.720177591
>>720150886 (OP)
>>720151198
nothing like that, get your eyes checked, bud. it's night and day compared to the usual smearing shit
Anonymous No.720177717
>>720177419
>Mario 64
>on a crt
>in a post-PC port world
actual autism, holy shit
Anonymous No.720177946
>>720177419
>bro just recap it yourself
Anonymous No.720177986
Shit was so much easier to get into 15-7 years ago. My PVM only cost me $100 and a refurbished and RGB modded SNES ran around $150.
Anonymous No.720178112
>>720177419
composite
soul
Anonymous No.720178271
>>720161362
>Dithering Genesis :(
>Dithering PC-98 :O
Anonymous No.720178325
>>720166329
You're not getting a computer monitor from the side of the road.
Anonymous No.720178397
>>720160037
lool
Anonymous No.720180118
>>720177419
I'm going to just assume that you've killed at least one person by posting this and not warning them about the spicy pillow hiding inside CRTs that might instagib them if they touch it
Anonymous No.720180358 >>720181415 >>720182301
I genuinely was alive back then and I remember everybody hating the old CRT monitors and wanting to replace it with the new ones that we have today because they were better. And I think it's really funny how nostaliga has made people pay big bucks to have the same CRT monitors that literally everybody used to have many years ago.
Another thing I noticed is that I don't really hear people call the new monitors "flatscreens" anymore, that's what we used to call them because we were used to big ass monitors that were fat, and so the new monitors we all have today were called flatscreens back then to distinguish them from the "normal" monitors. But I remember everybody thinking that flatscreens were better than CRTs back then which is why we all phased out CRTs and moved on. So it's funny to see zoomers wanting to back to the past and relive history now.
Lol.
Anonymous No.720181017
>>720150886 (OP)
>>720177419
atrocious bait
Anonymous No.720181415
>>720180358
Actually CRTs were mostly phased out because they were difficult to mass produce and couldn't be scaled down to mobile devices. But yes while the tech had some upsides like low latency and nice blacks, they were shit in every other way. Distorted image, dim, heavy, annoying buzz, extremely ugly, mediocre colour reproduction, low resolution and the list goes on.
Early LCDs were pretty shit too and it a while before they got as good as they are now. CRTs had the problem of being technological dead end and there was little that could be done to dramatically improve them.
Anonymous No.720181531
>>720177419
>everyone is banned from playing retro games if they don't literally kill themselves
So this basically means that retro games are now banned universally unless you already have a well-functioning CRT? Is that what you're saying? Because eventually yours will die too.
Anonymous No.720182301
>>720180358
and by everybody you mean the average female who didn't use them for video games. it was very obvious in those days that flat panels had much lower visual quality, they're nothing like modern ones. also in those days, "flat screen" was used to market certain types of CRTs that had a flat, rather than curved, screen surface, so the LCDs were called flat "panels" referring to its form factor rather than the screen itself, while "LCD" was known at the time for primitive displays like Game & Watch so they didn't use that to market the monitors.

size and weight aside, LCDs didn't really become more popular for power gamers until widescreen formats became widely available, which at the time was a means of cheating/exploiting engines that simply added more FOV if you had a widescreen monitor. since widescreen CRTs never made it to a mass market, upgrading to a widescreen flat panel became a quasi-necessity for competitive gaming.
Anonymous No.720182351
>>720159559
You're right that most CRT filters completely miss the glow and shine a real CRT has and as such don't really look right. I guess that's why some of the fancy filters use HDR, though realistically speaking that's not going to be visible through a screenshot. That "bad video signal" simulator you posted doesn't really look like a CRT either though, I mean a CRT with a good quality signal doesn't look like that but the thing is that CRTs hide image flaws to some degree so they really don't look that horrendous even with a bad signal.
Anonymous No.720182556
>>720159559
Yeah, just adding fake lines that darkened the whole thing doesn't make it look like a crt. They need to adjust the brightness and more.
Anonymous No.720182653
>>720151057
TV borders are the dumbest fucking shit imaginable
Anonymous No.720182832 >>720186691
>>720157681
It's addicting. I made a bait thread forever ago about ball mice, it got like 100 replies.
Anonymous No.720182896
>>720174987
lol what
You were running 640x480 in 2005? I kind of doubt it. That was extremely outdated for 2005. I'm quite sure in 2005 I had already moved to a 1280x1024 LCD monitor. Most people were either still holding on to their CRTs or were using a then-new LCD monitor like that. I was in high school back then, not even the shitty monitors in the computer lab were 640x480.
Anonymous No.720182948
>>720159559
Agreed anon. This looks more like a CRT than most "CRT filters".

My only complaint about the ntsc type filters is that they almost look more like a tape recording of the game than fresh output. Probably because they're based on recordings or captures.
Anonymous No.720183337 >>720183729
>>720159559
Basically this, we never realized how distorted and fuzzy CRTs actually looked until much later in retrospect - because they didn't actually look like that. You sat far enough away from the TV that all those whatever lines just blurred up into each other and the screens were plenty bright enough for anyone. Actually they were way brighter than the early flat screens - TVs are designed so you can easily watch them in bright daylight from like 10-15 feet away. Monitors only have to be bright enough to be fine from like 3 feet away.

Also because we had for years already moved into 3d gaming by the time flat screens were common, the differences in how sprites looked on native hardware vs digital emulation on LED were not really noticed by many. Even today you could get a crt and play original hardware on it but honestly you add not really gonna notice the CRT "look" to it unless you are sitting like 10 inches away from the screen which you definitely aren't supposed to and still aren't due to eye strain.
Anonymous No.720183586
I miss the old 28" Zenith my dad got from Fry's. That was beautiful.
Anonymous No.720183729 >>720185376
>>720183337
this guy gets it.
One side benefit of CRT being fuzzy (I definitely wouldn't use the word blurry) is that it is the absolute king of maintaining image quality across multiple resolutions, especially upscaling a lower resolution image into a large screen
even average CRT monitors actually looks much, much sharper than software/integer/nearest scaling on a LCD screen (doesn't matter the panel type) when you project a 800x600 image onto a 19" monitor
Anonymous No.720185376 >>720187839
>>720183729
>much, much sharper than software/integer/nearest scaling
No. Nearest neighbor / integer scaling are completely razor sharp with no blur whatsoever. Displaying those on a fixed-pixel display is as sharp as it gets, no CRT is sharper than that. Of course, old games weren't meant to be blown up 7x and then display on a perfectly razor sharp screen, so they don't really look their best, but it IS as sharp as it gets with no blur whatsoever.
Anonymous No.720185887
>>720177419
Imagine not having a crt with an hdmi port like a peasant.
Anonymous No.720186691
>>720182832
Based thread honestly. Whenever I get bored I’ll just drop some bait like β€œthe DualShock was a mistake” or β€œSNES mode 7 was wasted potential” and go do laundry. Come back to 70 replies of pure hate and autistic technical breakdowns. It’s beautiful.
Anonymous No.720187094
>>720157681
>now
Anonymous No.720187189
>Bilinear filtering
>no ugly fake scanlines
>no blocky pixels
>nobody ever talks about it in these threads
why is that?
Anonymous No.720187359
>>720150886 (OP)
I personally know people who always put on these smear filters when playing old games... Your brain has to be absolutely disgusting if you prefer them
Anonymous No.720187839
>>720185376
Mathematically, you are correct.
In practice? you need to internally render at x4 resolution then downscale with nearest neighbour (which is basically antialiasing) to match CRT, and this is only available to functionally defined environments (polygonal rendering as opposed to sprite upscaling).
A literal case of "LOOK WHAT THEY NEED TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUR POWER"
Anonymous No.720188424
>>720161362
That image was made to be displayed on a Genesis/MegaDrive. You can tell the CRT shader is a general one and not specialized for the console. Check the glow on the knob on the ray gun, the black vertical lines would be invisible on real hardware because of how the console handled interlacing.
Anonymous No.720189724
>>720172369
based duck enjoyer
Anonymous No.720189827
>>720174938
>>720175153
lol'd
Anonymous No.720189912 >>720192218
>>720151057
what scanline autists don't understand is that their screens can't even replicate the original CRT black anyway. You will never have the contrast the "intended way" was supposed to have.
Anonymous No.720189923
>>720151157
filter name?
Anonymous No.720192218 >>720199378
>>720189912
Low IQ post. That depends on your physical display. OLED will have perfect black levels. I swear the vast majority of the users here are mentally disabled, incapable of reasoning and critical thinking. I see hundreds of people like you on this site every day, making retarded, logically flawed posts while being smug about it.
Anonymous No.720193406
Anybody have any good shaderglass presets?
Anonymous No.720193676
>>720150886 (OP)
Left: SOVL
Right: SOVLLESS
Anonymous No.720193721
it's gaming time
Anonymous No.720194115
>>720177419
RGB Scart was always master race
Anonymous No.720194779 >>720196668 >>720198381 >>720199476
>>720151157
its made by computer so it's still AI, retard
Anonymous No.720196629
>>720150886 (OP)
Anonymous No.720196668 >>720196856
>>720194779
actually retarded take
Anonymous No.720196856
>>720196668
>noooo ai is only when I multiply these matrices, okay!
Anonymous No.720198217 >>720198409
>>720177419
N64 games look way uglier than I remembered in a crt, you're making already blurry I games thanks to it's awful anti aliasing even blurrier
Anonymous No.720198381
>>720194779
lmao based retard
Anonymous No.720198409 >>720199478
>>720198217
Anonymous No.720198501
>>720156551
based and jumping flash pilled
Anonymous No.720199378
>>720192218
>has an OLED
>calls others retarded
odd
Anonymous No.720199476
>>720194779
Truth
Nuke
Anonymous No.720199478
>>720198409
Especially Majora's Mask
Anonymous No.720200030