Thread 720152550

Are you a real borderlands fan anon?

>>720152550 (OP)
Yes, I stopped after 2 and Tales.

>>720152550 (OP)
I only played boringlands 1. I didn't like it even in co-op.

>RTX 4080
>30-40 fps without frame gen
https://youtu.be/2snH4hI5aWI?si=ooOl5cY1Uf4ueGcn&t=351

>>720152550 (OP)
i'm a fan of watching randy bitchford make a fool of himself every time he opens his mouth

>>720152840
Standard UE5 affair.

>>720152550 (OP)
I only like Tales from the Borderlands from Telltale games with Rhys and Fiona. Everything else I shrug at.

>>720152840
>doesn't say what resolution or quality settings he uses
>also complains about the default mouse sensitivity
he's probably a retard who put everything on Ultra

>>720152840
>meme tracing on

>>720152550 (OP)
fuck borderlands for inventing looter shooters

>>720152840
arkezz hasn't been the same ever since the bald guy left, jk these big youtube channels are always shills

>>720152550 (OP)
I will consume Randy grease until I die. I've come to accept it.

>>720153945
post GPU

>>720152840
>not even 4K resolution
jesus christ

>>720153372
fuck all niggers

>>720152840
>playing with framegen on with sub 60 FPS
>Only manages to get 70 FPS
>"this is fine"

>>720152840
silky smooth 30 FPS @1440p medium

Most games gets optimized right before launch, so I'm expecting the finale build to be a bit better.

Imagine trusting Randy Pitchfork in big 2025.
Truth is if you have played any Borderlands game you are a boderline reditor, you are a fucking tumlrite.

>>720154202
Okay.

>>720153261
>Have a gorillion dollar PC gaming setup
>Games still run like shit for some reason (the game devs being incompetent dogshit)
How dare you even think you can put your game on ultra settings and expect it to run well!! Think of the developers!!

>>720155194
Why'd you get a 9950x3D? You do editing or something?

>>720155194
>Not the 5090
O nooooooo
Anyways in
got this free with my 5070 ti so I'll probably install it and play for 1-2 hours then never touch it again just like borderlands 3 which I also got free with something

>>720152840
>our i7s -> i7-11700KF
Actually retarded, not even changing his mouse sensitivity

>>720155674
Yes.

>BL3 had horrific texture streaming stutter even years after the last update and the players had to force texture streaming off with console commands to make the game playable
>retards STILL think randy gives a fuck about PCfags

>>720154436
we dont say the n word here sweaty

>>720152840
UE5 claims another victim

>>720155674
No, I only play 20+ year old mmos.

>game not even out
>STARTER GUIDE vids already on yt

>>720152550 (OP)
Borderlands sucks! Uh huh huh huh!

I'm so fucking tired of goy frames and goylss

It's even worse because all the big tech E-Celebs excuse it and tell people to "get used to it" being the norm

>>720155645
>3 year old GPU possibly running raytracing in 4K
ok

>>720152835
Dude, i tried Boderlands 1 4 times, i couldn't get more than 3 hours of playthough before uninstalling it, what a boring game jesus christ...

>>720157989
>10 things you NEED to know before starting Borderlands 4
> DO NOT start Borderlands 4 until you watch this video
>Borderlands 4 Best Settings Guide
>Borderlands 4 Best Builds for beginners
>Tips & Tricks for the best Borderlands 4 head start

>>720155645
Max settings being badly optimized (having bad graphics to performance ratio) isn't the same as the game overall being badly optimized. In fact ultra being badly optimized is basically the norm although how big the performance difference is varies. RDR2 is maybe the greatest example of this were it would be very bad to judge the graphics to performance of the game just from max settings, the performance gains from tuning some settings down are especially big relative to the insignificant loss in visual fidelity.

That being said Borderlands 4 is an UE5 game so the default is that it's badly optimized anyway.

>>720152840
What the fuck!?
How this cell shaded ps3 looking game requires more than a 2060 to run at max and 60fp—oh UE5..thats how...

>>720158218
DLSS Upscaling is great.

>>720153261
He literally commented that he used Medium preset negro. Yes MEDIUM 1440P requires framegen to hit 60fps on 4080 lol.

>>720152840
>i7 cpu
god i fucking hate dumb normie niggers so much
this could mean a 15 year old i7 760
yes i know he clarified it a comment

>>720159405
Developers just need to hide Ultra settings when they detect lower-end hardware, retards like >>720155645 can't handle having access to something like that.

>>720152550 (OP)
No, because Boredlands has sucked shit since the first one launched.
>Let's make all the loot fucking uselss!
>Also HE HAS THREE BALLS XD!

>>720154945
Thats a cope. Most optimization does come at the end, but your never gonna double the frame rate if you've completely disregarded performance the whole development.

You need to have performance benchmarks and budgets during development to prevent this.

>worked with Randy irl
>he seems like a genuinely nice guy that cares about making good games
>definitely has weird taste that I don't 100% agree with
After meeting him, I can't really hate the guy. His view is you need to make money to keep making games. You can't just shovel out bombs. Doesn't seem to want to monetize the shit out of everything, just make enough to keep going. Guy has a pretty good formula going, which is why he keeps making Borderlands instead of other shit.

>>720161203
Randy had a USB with CP on it, you sick fuck

>>720160574
Kingdom Come 1 and 2 did the right thing in calling the max settings "Experimental". The right thing if you insist on including dumb presets that destroy performance for basically no benefit that is, if I was a dev I probably wouldn't include them at all.

>>720158218
This is the kind of retard that leaves "This game is not optimized" reviews.
10 times out of 10 I try a modern game and they run well. The only one that I've played recently that I couldn't get to run well was MH Wilds. If needed, every single game I can turn down to 2560x1440 and it will run great on a 3080 with a 12th gen intel. I can usually run games fine at 4K with DLSS. Any issues? Run it at 1440 and still looks great on my 55" TV I sit 3ft away from.
Been gaming on PC for 20 years.
We don't need retards like you tanking reviews because you are the stupid person that doesn't know how to adjust settings to run on your toaster.
Stick to console.

>>720161448
Then why did he not go to jail?
huh, really makes you think...

>>720161678
For 20 years the top presets were considered "future proofing" it was only when consoles stagnated hard that people started to expect to run games on max settings with 6 year old hardware.

Im not defending randy, that's just what has happened.

>>720152550 (OP)
it came out? news to me

>>720152550 (OP)
I cannot wait to see Randy's meltdown next week. I am sure this game will be criticized to hell nad back for the stupid plot and horrible performance

>>720152840
Remember when retards were like "uhh, ackshually, frame gen is only going to be used to go from 90 FPS to 200 FPS, it'll get rid of CPU bottlenecks!"
That shit sure didn't last, it's become a crutch just like DLSS.

>>720152550 (OP)
Be nice to Randy. He stress eats

>>720157029
Works on my machine

>>720162648
>it'll get rid of CPU bottlenecks!
which is the exact opposite of how it actually works because the entire point of frame gen is to generate interpolated frames without new game data
literally just lies and lies from the very start from nvidia as usual

>>720162648
Whether it's DLSS, Framegen or just improved raw performance from new hardware it's just going to get used as a crutch. Only weak hardware, like being forced to make the game run on base PS4 as most devs were until recently keeps them in check.

>>720161840
You'd have a point if modern "max" settings looked good.
Most of the time, they do not.

>>720161764
he's on the Epstein list

>>720161448
you had your chance to demonstrate this in court faggot

is this the cheapest key around? also can my i5-9700 run this shit? pls tell me i can play this ue5 slop :(

>>720163343
yeah none of my to go sites have deals on this, randy is getting really cocky

>>720163343
no

>>720163343
im going to play this for hundreds of hours with a RTX 3060 and I5 8600K at 4.8Ghz and no one can stop me. I love me some Goylands

>>720164114
huh based?!
>>720163906
>>720163904
well I guess I'm going to buy it anyway and fuck it.

>>720152550 (OP)
No, I've never liked it. Borderlands is an extremely shallow series.

>>720158879
>>3 year old GPU
bruhdder, it's current architecture, the 5000 series is a glorified refresh of the 4000 series

>gameplay looks fantastic
>all /v/ cares about is the story and how woke will it be

>>720164503
There's a huge gap beyween 4080 and 4090 and even more so with 5090

>>720164715
and because it's got blacks and gays they decide the gameplay is shit too

>>720155645
>>720160574
>>720161698
1440p akshually
on the medium preset also

>>720161764
Diddling real kids is perfectly kosher in the west.
You only get in trouble if it's fictional characters.

>>720162648
Looking forward to games using framegen to reach 30 fps by the time they release the PS6

>>720153443
wait he left? i thought he was like the main guy

so whats looking worse, this or mhwilds?

>>720161448
>>720165007
False accusers should get the same punishment as the falsely accused would have deserved.

>>720162648
>>720163057
What is wrong with future proofing your game by having settings that don't run well on current hardware? Is it because you retards don't comprehend the passage of time?

>>720165442
This isn't future-proofed, it just runs like shit and looks like a PS4 game.

>>720165304
I'm sure all the people who have played BL4 in here will tell you.

>>720164503
That's more wrong than it is true.

>>720165442
For this argument to make any sense at all you need games that actually look the part.
But no, the game looks like it would run perfectly at 60fps on the PS3 if it were properly optimized.
I will remind you this is a PS3 game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzx0O0_vQwY

>>720152840
Imagine being a 4080/5080 owner

>>720165442
Reading comprehension please. The problem with Framegen isn't that it doesn't run well on current hardware. To the contrary it sort-of kinda "improves performance". The problem is that it's used as an excuse (the game runs fine, you can get 60 fps at medium on an average rig if you just turn framegen on!)

>>720164715
The gameplay is actively affected by these things. You WILL stand in place for several minutes while a black guy talks about how gay he is or some dyke lectures you about the patriarchy or why having a 300+ body count is good.

>>720166720
This. If you can't splurge for the top tier card of a gen, you should just buy a console.

>>720166937
>Not a 6080

>>720166937
I'll splurge on something you dirty little whore.

Did 2K ever change their terms and conditions or is it still spyware?

>>720168989
still spyware

>>720166937
>6000
Wow a 00 tier card, didn't see them introduce such an ultra low end option in the RTX 60-series.

>>720152840
Even 60-70fps in the big 25 is grim. I'm just so used to my 165Hz monitor that 60 just feels ancient.

What I don't get is why it runs so much worse while looking basically identical to 3. Legitimately could not tell you which game is which if I saw them side by side.

>>720170758
>Legitimately could not tell you which game is which if I saw them side by side.
you can easily tell them apart off the UE5 details like constant goyscaling artifacts and general blurness

>>720169283
It can handle Borderlands 4 at 20fps 480p upscaled via AI to 240fps and 8K!

>>720170758
UE5 slop tax
also "muh open world"

>>720159117
It was something to play split screen on 360 when you were tired of Halo, Black Ops Zombies and Left 4 Dead 2.

>put disc in ps5
>turn off ray tracing
>it runs good enough
>didnt spend 2000 dollars on a gpu
console chads stay winning

Stopped at pre sequel, this should've never turned into a franchise

>>720172026
Based this. 30fps is all anybody ever needs. 5090fags can only dream of such framerates

>>720170359
lol whenever a game drops to 60 now i start doing troubleshooting because i think either it's hit 30 or something's wrong with my monitor

>>720153119
It's not the engine, it's the retard "programmers".
None of them truly know C++. And the technical artists are just morons.

>>720170359
I don't mind 60fps for third person games, but for FPS games, anything below 120 is absolutely unacceptable.

>>720152840
Exactly like 3.

>>720163343
you sadly missed a labourday sale on one site that was 25% off of the hueg edition.

>>720159389
welcome to every video game release from 5 years ago until forever. it's all content. you will watch the content.

>>720172717
does 3 run well on modern hardware?

>>720172941
i'm saying when 3 came out it had a bunch of frame rate issues and it crashed a lot. There was no day 1 patch though, it took a couple of weeks. I haven't played 3 in a long time so I couldn't tell you how it runs now.

>>720153372
It wasn't supposed to be like this, it was just supposed to be Diablo but a FPS

>>720153119
Yeah. It's an engine problem.

It's also a retard devs problem, but it's an engine problem too.

They've got a lot of shit in UE5 to make development "easier" like blueprints, basically fisher price programming for morons, which most of these studios are now staffed by. It's meant to be used for fast prototyping of ideas and mechanics, not for production, but of course you've got jeets and libtards and women with 95 IQ's who can't figure out C and actual programming, so they go with this bloated fisher price bullshit with enormous performance overhead, and throw in the engine just in general having bad performance on top of it and this is what you get. Top of the line hardware that costs $3000 can't even run your $80 game at a bare minimum, barely acceptable 60fps.

>>720173206
Fisher price babby tools exist because there's a significant enough demand for it. If UE didn't have any of that another engine would take it's place.

>>720172941
Looks and runs exponentially better on borderline goddam ewaste and a glorified PCIE to video adapter than BL 4 does on modern high end hardware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zell7cGXBM

>>720173398
I didn't say there wasn't a demand for it - there obviously is. The aforementioned non-whites, women, and slack-jawed idiot libtards who can't grasp how programming actually works.

what you don't seem to get is that these fisher price tools aren't meant for and aren't built around, making games. They have massive performance issues, they cause huge headaches with versioning systems, they bloat the fuck out of your post-launch updates costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in networking fees. They are supposed to be there for "Dude I have an idea let me try this out really quick" and instead entire fucking games are being built using them, because the developers are all fucking idiots.

>>720172521
Same, pro tip: make your game run at 15fps with RTSS and then go back to 60, it'll feel great.

>>720174095
kek
thanks for the tip jensen

>>720152550 (OP)
Fuck Randy Pitchford and fuck Borderlands. The guy's an insufferable fuck and his games are absolute dogshit. Of course he wouldn't put any kind of time or effort into making sure it was actually running properly, and I don't know why that would surprise anyone.

>>720160030
You retard.

>>720174334
Please be respectful to fellow users and follow the rules of the board when talking about your favorite video games.

>>720152550 (OP)
>>720152840
This is why I'm going back to retro games. Even PCs need to be built using old crap on defunct OSes so you can actually run the games properly and without missing effects.
Pic related, the really far off terrain doesn't render even with fan patches, you need an actual Windows XP computer with supported hardware to get it working. I haven't even talked about Crimson Skies causing epileptic seizures on the loading screens.