Thread 720158286

>try to make a treasure of the sierra madre homage
>people completely ignore the message and glitch/cheat their way into taking all the gold

why are Fallout players like this?

i think people were just pissed after going through the dlc and stole everything as a fuck you

>>720158286 (OP)
Because they gave players the option to steal a fuck ton of gold. of course they're going to

I get walking out of there with the money if you're able, but cheating doesn't make sense. You might as well just give yourself one million caps.

>message
literally half the intended true ending is "buy the bear and bull dlc coming 2011"
fuck that. everybody dies. I'm keeping all the gold, every BAR, every suit of armor, and veronica's shitty bugged perk and stuffing it in a duffle bag marked as non-respawning that still causes some items to disappear randomly if you leave them too long

>>720158286 (OP)
Not forcing your narrative moral point is good, actually. You deliver it and let players think for themselves. Some will accept it wholeheartedly and leave the gold behind, or take a single bar as "proof" of their tribulations. Some will miss the point and want to take the whole thing. And some will understand what you're trying to do, but still game the system to "one-up" the game in their minds. They're all valid expressions of player freedom.

Wanting to force your view because you think you're right and people need to be taught at gunpoint is how you get things like the TLoU2 ending.

>>720158286 (OP)
Another retard filtered by the best Fallout DLC.

>>720158286 (OP)
less than .1% of players glitched the gold out of the casino

>>720158286 (OP)
I don’t glitch the money out. I just do player.additem 000000f 1000000 in front of the gunrunners kiosk

>>720158286 (OP)
>tfw love Dead Money and Lonesome Road
>internet hates them
I thought HH and OWB was whatever. The former I liked a bit more though, because Randall fucking Clark.

>>720161270
Dead Money is the best NV DLC, easily. Lonesome Road is the worst, thoughever.

>>720161270
dm is my favorite overall
lr next. ulysses is okay, i like him because its like talking to a severely mentally traumatized ptsd spearnigger whos gone off the deep end.
owb is fine but its just not my favorite. its comfy.
hh is pretty nothing gameplaywise but the npcs are all topnotch and randall clark as well

>>720158286 (OP)
>cheat
It's not cheating. I took both stages of the Implant GRX perk which stacks with fast times and chemist, so I get like 80 seconds of turbo time which is enough time to sneak walk my way up to the point where you have to jump upwards onto a different platform. All you have to do is drop the gold, jump, grab the gold before it falls through the crack, and then continue onwards. It's about at that point that Elijah realizes he's been tricked, so that's when the real timer starts.

>>720161192
you can just type f
you don't need all the zeroes

>>720160990
>best
>do melee only build
>COMPLETELY bricked the moment you start dead moneys story
yeah nah

>>720158286 (OP)
>muh message
nobody cares, retard. it is a video game.
>>720159086
console players cant use console commands

>>720161629
oh shit I love you no homo

>>720161430
>lonesome road
>worst
honest hearts is right there

>>720158286 (OP)
Because it was a miserable fucking experience and I wanted something out of it

>>720161634
Are you actually retarded? The entire limb destruction gimmick in the DLC's combat is to punish guns-only retards and reward melee chads. The knife spear every other one of the ghost guys drop does better with just 50 melee weapons than most of the guns in the DLC will with a maxed out guns stat. And once you get access to cosmic knives and make a clean knife spear, you're like a fucking god. Even unarmed and energy weapon builds do better than guns in DM.

>>720161634
you dumb gorilla nigger its the other way around and DM IS EASY AS SHIT IF YOURE FUCKING LOSING IN DM YOU SUCK AT VIDEOGAMES
>punch or chop up ghost nigger for instant kill
OR
>shoot them and then pull a knife out and sit on the ground chopping their legs until one of them explodes and they die too

>>720158286 (OP)
People actually pretend that this boring slogfest is fun because they think it is so le deep and thought provoking

>>720158286 (OP)
DM is the only time I wanted to fuck a bald chick

>>720161270
DM > HH > LR > OWB
OWB is fucking annoying, the dialogue is cringe, the areas and challenges suck, the enemies suck, the super awesome house needs like 4 loading screens to access and gets btfo by even the shittiest POH mod. LR is tolerable if you skip through all of the bloated BEAR BULL dialogue. Ulysses is a joke compared to other characters like Ceasar and Graham and doesn't live up to the hype at all, the whole ED-E subplot had zero emotional impact on me, and the gameplay while linear is at least pretty fun to clear through.

>>720158286 (OP)
The New Vegas DLCs, and by extension most 3/4 DLCs are simply badly designed. They don't fit into the main game design. They are isolated experinces that force you stay inside of it until you finish it. It hqs no bearing on the rest of the main game. And in the case of DM, it even strips the RPG aspects from the game as you are forced to reset your progress via losing your gear.

All 3 games are best enjoyed by ignoring the DLC and just playing the base game. TES DLC is far better integrated and it's not even close.

>>720158286 (OP)
>Y-you MUST agree with my message, chud.
No, I'm letting go of being poor.

>>720161634
>DLC about resource scarcity and limb damage in enclosed quarters
>bricked for playing the spec that uses fewer resources and specializes in limb damage/close quarters combat

>>720162416
Either he is retarded or he is talking about autism meme builds that aren't allowed to shoot projectiles at all, since there are speakers far away that need to be shot to progress. And if it's the latter, then he's even more retarded than if he were just shit at a Bethesda game's combat.

>>720161892
I don't want to shoot Joshua Graham in the face five seconds after meeting him the same way I want to do Ulysses. Also, the retarded "you cannot finish the DLC unless you play a sub-40IQ Courier that launches a nuke to open a door" bit.

>>720161892
>honest hearts BAD because natives trigger me

>>720158286 (OP)
It is a case of devs not understanding the medium in which they worked.
They thought it would be seen as a deep and poignant lesson.
The players saw it as a problem to be solved.

>>720158286 (OP)
>steal all the gold
>lock elijah in
The moral remains the same, but it's Elijah who is forced to learn it, far too late.

Also Male Courier x Christine is canon. Fuck Veronica and fuck Cass, worthless bitches who don't put out. I KNOW for a FACT that those two fucked after Dead Money ended.

>>720162330
Casuals like you are why Old Reddit Blues and Lonesome BEAR BULL BEAR BULL had pity messages saying "oh you'll keep all your stuff plz don't get mad we wouldn't want to have you actually have a CHALLENGE or anything".

>>720162741
It can be both, which it was, and it did it well. >>720160190
You don't even need glitches or special builds or cheating to do it. With the right timing you can just poop walk all the way back to the elevator, which I'm sure the devs knew would be possible.

>>720162760
>Male Courier x Christine is canon.

my nigga. having her go from "youre in league with elijah arent you faggot' to warming up to you and going "fine, i'll let go" is something those other two cunts couldnt achieve. fuckin Lily makes a better companion than those two in comparison

>>720162760
>Courier x Christine

>>720161892
>another honest hearts hater
YOU KNOW WHAT!!!??
God be with you anon

>>720162843
>duh casual
Retard. I play on very hard hardcore. My argument is even about difficulty. It's that the gameplay completely shifts from how the game plays in the Mojave.

If I want a scarcity survival experience. I will play DUST. It's far better deaigned and ai'm going into it FOR that experience.

I've completed this DLC 5 times and I've killed Dean Domino every time.

>>720162683
no, actually. it's because your involvement in the natives lives is as follows
>show up
>find three sets of boy scouts equipment for native group 1
>clear three bad native camps for native group 2
>take drugs, kill a bear (optional)
>companion quest with native from native group 2
>kill more bears, but with explosives
>fight bad native gang
>the end
but i can accept the argument that their focus was put more on creating a beautiful landscape to roam through, rather than creating a giant junkbox full of cool shit to loot (looking at you, old world blues). and i like joshua graham. i just wanted more involvement in it instead of showing up, doing some chores, and then getting out.

>>720158286 (OP)
I already had a ton of money before starting the DLC. I just decided that the DLC was pretentious and stole it out of spite.

>>720158286 (OP)
New Vegas would be better off with one huge expansion instead of these short DLC episodes.
They all feel like they were either rushed out of the door or were limited in scope.
I still like all of them, but they are not as replayable as the base game.

>>720162760
based christine appreciator. she's built for penis
>b-but lesbi-
don't care

>>720163710
that is completely fair, but i like him as character. he seems like a greater villain than elijah purely because this entire hotel, vault and Vera Keyes Prison was built thanks to him

>>720163390
>t. cucked out for Cass and the NTR- i mean NCR
Reminder that Courier and Christine had the best chemistry in the game.
>>720163383
I always feed Cass to Van Graffs and I smugly gloat about blowing up the Reddithood to Veronica's face (after learning how to don Power Armor and emptying out their stash with several Stealth Boys.) Fuck 'em.
>>720163710
It took me a while to figure out that you basically had to be polite to Dean Domino the entire time in order for him not to turn on you. What an ass, I stabbed him to death.

>>720164195
>I always feed Cass to Van Graffs and I smugly gloat about blowing up the Reddithood to Veronica's face (after learning how to don Power Armor and emptying out their stash with several Stealth Boys.) Fuck 'em.
i only do it for the glory of mr house. you are a foul fiend, a dog with no leash.

My record for beating this dlc is 8 hours from doc mitchells to the final cutscene.
I go from spawn, dump all points ALL POINTS into sneak so i have 100 sneak by the time i get to the gold bars. I know where every stash and healing item is and i can go through the vill blindfolded. I made this dlc my fucking BITCH i like it more than the actual game desu

>>720163524
If only modern christcucks were like Graham. Love and violence go hand in hand. Instead we get self-destructive learned incompetence TRASH like Daniel.

>>720158286 (OP)
Lol everyone here would grab that gold if they could let's not kid ourselves. The only problem was Elijah being a gigantic jackass during the entire DLC.

>N-no you're being greedy taking it all
Too bad. If you have the strength to carry all that shit somehow, and not do it, you're an idiot. Especially considering we live in a shitty economy. Donate everything to the poor if u want to feel better about it. I swear people are stuck up their asses nowadays.

>>720164362
>i only do it for the glory of Mr. house

exceptional taste. he may be farfetched on certain topics but in the end, he is the true savior of vegas.
>NCR
can easily be bought or wiped out if the fiends could organize themselves. Just alcoholics with guns pretending to be soldiers. real knights of yore as house put it.
>Legion
Slavery Might be based, but taking order from an old timer with a tumor who misread hegel isnt someone i'd like to entertain for long
>Yes Man
Its only savagery out there, and where there's even the slightest bit of civility, theres bureaucracy. Nothing gets done with bureaucracy. Should you get BoS to side with NCR for the battle you can see them both arguing about who has the right to the power armor that was stolen after the battle at Helios one. You give the Mojave an individualistic New Vegas today, it'll turn to a pile of debris and dust by tomorrow.

>>720165435
>exceptional taste. he may be farfetched on certain topics but in the end, he is the true savior of vegas.
the only thing i'll give house shit for is that he says he'll have humanity back in space in 100 years, but i already got a gang of ghouls to the moon a few days before meeting house for the first time. yeah, house...don't think you'll have any issues there.

>>720158286 (OP)
I deserve it after I went through that dogshit gameplay. Fuck Dead Money.

>>720158286 (OP)
>expecting the average person to watch a pre 1980 movie
Make it pre 2000 for zoomies

>>720158286 (OP)
this is the best DLC from NV and anybody saying otherwise is a clown.

i seriously dont get why people like old world blues, the fucking mountain of quirk chungus dialogue at the start almost made me quit the game back in the day.

Honest Hearts>Lonesome Road>Old World Blues>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dead Money.
Also Yes Man is the best ending. Imagine being a wageslave to some old guy, a roman larper and a dead government when you can just take power for yourself.

>>720162760
>Male Courier x Christine is canon
based. they're literally two brain damaged revenge-seeking psychos BUILT for each other

>>720162683
No it's just boring. It's like four fetch quests then it's over.

>>720166359
To be fair, you need to have alot of narrative imagination i.e. head canon, in order to make Yes Man a good or interesting ending. If you just take everything in game at face value, it's the same as a house ending but less organized and more boring.

But based on most New Vegas threads, half its players don't even RP.

>>720163710
Dean is basically one of the most evil people in the game. Killing him is always 100% justified and even if you spare him, there's hardly anything to imply he'll ever change and won't repeat the same shit he did pre-war and post-war elsewhere.

hi jerk im dad

>>720166762
I just pick it because it makes the most sense for my Enclave Courier. I don't mind the House ending too much either since it's also better than the Legion or NCR endings.

>>720158286 (OP)
Because even Troon Vegays fags are sensible to ignore Dead Money’s commie NWO message of you will own nothing, let go of the past and be happy.

jannies really are worthless

>>720166762
>>720166359
Yes man betrays you at the end

>>720161270
All Shit Vegays DLC sucks the best DLC was for the best Fallout game Chadout 3.

>>720167601
proof? schizo headcanon doesn't count

>>720167601
If that's your head cannon, sure. But not in mine :)

I just wish they let you actually fucking let you team up with him, given you some kind of hologram ghost summoning weapon, and then when you beat the game, then you get the special invasion ending.

>>720162234
That’s just the typical mindset of Shemale Vegays fags in general

>>720158286 (OP)
Because fuck your message.

Give me a quick weapon/armor/perk mod idea I want to make something.

>>720166762
The major issue with a Yes Man ending is that due to time constraints they could not make sliders for all the things the courier achieved or all the people he helped, and that would have made a huge difference if more of your actions were factored in.
The best example of that is the slide saying the Followers are struggling even though you fixed all their major problems and got them better tech, new suppliers and more support than ever.

>>720161892
>honest hearts
I shot the indian at the beginning because he looked all the other indians and the quest marker sent me to kill the main characters and leave so I did. It was over in like 20 minutes.
Wasn't until years later that I discovered that wasn't actually what was supposed to happen.

>>720167601
Hi Kyle Marshiku

>>720167774
Look up one of the nif-bashed resource packs then make one of the guns into a cool unique.
Or if you want to fuck about with models then turn Graham's armor into a non-unique. Remove the bandages, make it cleaner, plaid shirt.

>>720168259
hmmm mebbe i should make a unique recharge rifle

>>720166359
HH is clearly undercooked compared to the other DLCs. I can understand liking some of the characters and what they were trying to do with the story, but it is objectively inferior to the other 3.

>>720158286 (OP)
The gold bars don't weigh the amount that's fucking stamped on them do canonically my courier looted the entire fucking vault and left Elijah holding the bag as he presses his middle finger over the shielded door leaving him to die. Fuck your pseudo intellectual bullshit. If I can take an entire suit of power armor 37 gold bars is nothing for a wasteland savage.

>>720161661
>playing new vegas on a console

>>720167417
>>720167647
>>720167754
if only your YOUR iq was above room temperature anon

>>720168467
It is undercooked, but not outright terrible like OWB. I'd put it on par with LR for being mediocre but in very different ways. All 3 get btfo by DM.

>>720168850
OWB is kino and I refuse to accept this reddit take.

>>720158286 (OP)
you tell me to not do thing.
i do thing.
simple as

>>720158286 (OP)
the message its peddling doesnt apply to the player in any way though

>>720158286 (OP)
Holy fuck this entire dlc is just a ripoff of a movie? Is there anything original in the west coast fallout games and show at all?

>>720168850
>>720168929
>YOURE REDDIT FOR LIKING QUIRK CHUNGIE FLOATING EYEBALL PENIS FINGER DLC
>YOURE REDDIT FOR NOT LIKING OLD WORLD BLUES YOU'RE A FAGGOT

>>720161270
Lonesome Road is kino but Dead Money is annoying as fuck. The story and themes don't bother me but most of the puzzles at the end are just annoying trial and error gotchas

>>720169181
You could google just about every single quest name in FNV and find it references something.

>tfw checking what the devs were inspired by for honest hearts
>they never mention the mission
i'm surprised

>>720159216
baste?

>>720169196
>he didn't appreciate the sci-fi horror kino or hearing Rusty through our guy Dr Oh
Yep, reddit moment.

>>720169398
The only remotely redeeming interaction in all of OWB was finding out Mobius was based, and I give the game credit for letting you commit to that by killing the think tank. But you know what? It would have been even better if it gave you the option to kill the think tank 30 seconds into their first dialogue.

>>720168781
Cope Chadout 3 is for the high intellect Troonout Neo Vagina is for midwits

>>720158286 (OP)
But enough about Fallout 3

>>720169612
You're literally indian.

>>720168595
>Playing Troon Vegays at all

OWB is only enjoyable if you install a mod that strips you of all your gear. Still has the worst writing and dialouge in the game.

>>720161270
I agree to both of those but I put OWB above HH. It's story is ass and exists just for powergamers but atleast it has replay value.
LR>DM>OWB>HH

>>720169627
Everybody here has played the game so why post fake shit? Kys you fucking nigger.

>>720169627
that's the most disgusting font ever

>>720169969
>Everybody here has played the game so why post fake shit?
Are you fucking retarded? What makes it fake?

>>720158286 (OP)
>why are Fallout players like this?
Its funnier to escape the casino and dab on the dickhead that locked us in there by taking the gold he's been scheming over for so god damn long.

Taking the gold with you is just a giant middle finger to the antagonist of the quest before you fuck off, half the time I can't even be arsed to sell it because its so heavy so I just dump it in a chest in my player house and move on

>>720170187
PLEAE GOD STOP USING THAT FONT

>>720161270
Me too but where I think LR is an underappreciated gem DM I get the hate and usually agree. It definitely has the best theme and story/characters of the dlcs but it is hampered by annoying gameplay and feeling more like some action adventure game than a Fallout product.

>>720158286 (OP)
Spitting on a story's message by being a smartass is fun.

>>720169664
Predictable Troon Vegays response Chadout 3 mogs your tranny game anytime anywhere!

>>720170187
Why do faggots spend all their time pretending to be even stupider than they already are?

>>720170247
This. It's just way more satisfying emptying the vault and leaving that fuck to either kill himself or jump into the cloud. Hearing his final radio broadcast of just waiting there for us when we die warms my heart, could picture my courier recording that audio and keeping it as a recording trophy.

>>720164195
>Reddithood
Hating the BOS is a reddit opinion.

>>720158286 (OP)
It was never about the money, it's about sending a message.

>(optional) Sneak past elijah and trap him inside the vault
i never cheated, i snuck behind the electricity thing and then just walked to the door, its not MY fault the octagenarian schizo was too slow to react

>>720167417
The Italian finally made a based meme.

>>720163976
He's a great character! It's a testament to the writing that I still hate his faggot face as much as I do 15 years later
>>720166868
I wouldn't know! I haven't seen the slides where he lives and I never will

>>720171303
They deserved to be hated. They just squirreled away anything resembling a laser pointer, hiding underground as their numbers dwindled. They had no plans for this technology, no vision, no future. This is all lore accurate and consistent with fo1/2 brotherhoods, and it's great that New Vegas depicted them accurately while also shitting on them.

>>720170516
>listening to the old schizo go through the five stages of grief in real time in vault filled with nothing

>>720169612
>Literal mods
>Pretending to be filtered by enemies that are nothing more than a nuisance past the very early game

>>720170392
>Vertibird isn't in the top-left corner
You had one job.

>>720171614
No, you dumb secondary. They only care about keeping dangerous military technology like energy weapons and FEV out of the wrong hands, while reintroducing less dangerous technology to the wasteland. Veronica is a retard and is shown to be wrong.

reddit vegas
reddit 3
redditchan
reddit pistol

>>720172159
>t. emotionally unstable techno-fetishist

>>720172213
reddit weather
reddit music
reddit walk

>>720172402
>Reee why aren't the paramilitary/R&D house that is laser-focused on their mission going around seizing civilian technology?

>>720161270
I like them too. DM is my favorite but LR is a fun endgame combat gauntlet.

>>720172492
>>720172402
MR REDDIT SAVE ME

reddit money
reddit road
reddit reddit reddit
rieddt hearts

>>720172402
>Devs removed the option to persuade House to spare the BOS because people would side with him more often if you could
kek

>>720172652
>Elijah was the only one that bothered to go for the actual civilian prototypes worth a damn
>is too old and schizo to use them at their full potential
Imagine wasting your life chasing down some shitty orbital laser when the real stuff was locked behind a vanity project built by a simp.

>heh, what if took our open world RPG and made it into a 4/10 survival horror game
obsidian moment

>>720158286 (OP)
>vidya try’s to use its mechanics to be preachy and make you a literal prisoner

Get upset when I use the game’s mechanics to tell the writers to fuck off like any good rpg should let you

>>720173201
>Let's just leave a once-per-day orbital laser in the hands of a child or maybe wait for a Fiend to get their hands on it. Nothing could go wrong from that.
Retard. Also:
>Laser-shooting holograms
>WMDs
>Civilian

>>720163852
>They all feel like they were either rushed out of the door
That's because they were

>>720158286 (OP)
all fallout franchise DLC is bad.

>>720174696
Correct. The base game is way better in every game that has DLC.

>>720174696
wrong, far harbor is objectively the best individual piece of fallout content period

>>720174696
also the same goes for the borderlands franchise

>>720163586
Based DUST enjoyer.

>>720160190
Forcing the player to act out something they don't agree with, or find uncomfortable, is a perfectly fine way for an interactive medium like video games to convey something too though

>>720175704
yes, that's what he's saying
both ways are fine

>>720169398
>Rusty through our guy Dr Oh
How the fuck did I never make that connection.

>>720158286 (OP)
Its kinda funny how the DLCs, one after another, gave up on limiting the player.

>DM no outside items, no leave before end, no return + no sleeping, no fast travel,

>HH some outside items, no leave before end, no return

>OWB any outside items, no leave before end, return anytime

>LR any outside items, leavy anytime, return anytime +fast travel, which makes story wise no sense

In Fo3, Zeta was last and you couldnt leave or fast travel, because the story said so.
Ironic that Bethesda stayed closer to their last DLC story in gameplay than Obsidian did.

>>720175129
>FO4

>>720177064
You can return to zion, there's just fuckall to do since nothing but the wildlife respawns

>>720161270
I like HH because it's always nice having a proper relatively untouched wilderness environment in Fallout. Randall Clark is great though yeah.

>>720158286 (OP)
For me it's getting Dean Domino to save the day in the nick of time and walking out with Elijah's head

Also I get rid of Christine every time

>>720177793
I always end up locking myself into killing Dean cause I forget you have to be nice to him in his first conversation and accidentally tell him how I really feel about his mine trick

>>720164851
Daniel is a TRVE CVCK FOR CHRINRIST
Vengeance is for the LORD! and the Maccabes! And the modern state of Israel! Not you, Goyim! Jesus says so!

>>720177604
didnt know that...
never tried i guess
i even told a friend who said HH is his favorite and he didnt correct me
guess nobody bothers to go back

>>720161270
they are my favorite dlcs too
hh is dogshit, joshua is great, but i hate everything else about it
owb is meh, it feels bloated sometimes

>>720158286 (OP)
Because GRA came out afterwards and people suddenly had a use for those gold bars

>>720178105
There's no reason to go back to any of them. OWB cheats with that shitty player house, but getting to it sucks and the layout is overcomplicated. Any unowned rundown shack in the main world is better than it for storage.

I hate DM because it has the hardest to find snowglobe and it's also the only one you can't go back for

>>720171614
To be fair they really didn't have a plan for anything beyond securing the Real Bad Shit (tm) that existed prewar
And their work was cut out for them because the more we learn about the Fallout US the more fucked up the situation gets. They had plagues, genetic manipulation, tactical nuclear weapons, death beams, regular nukes, space nukes, ICBMs, killer robots, space lasers, and god knows what else
Their real fuckup was not integrating with the NCR to expand the reach of their collecting effort

>>720158286 (OP)
It's simple really, don't cheat my out of my fucking time and I won't cheat you out of your gay ass message. Sierra Madre lorewise is neat, cool story and character, but is an absolute pain in the ass to actually play, there is never a fun fucking moment in that entire DLC. The only reason I still bother is purely so I can take the Automatic Rifle and Holorifle back home, the gold is just a bonus.

>>720178250
OWB cheats because of the sink, that gives you infinite crafting supplies from random trash.
It is bscl the prequel to Fo4s crating shit.
As for LR, Its the best place to farm caps especially early on, so you dont return, you leave and come back.

In Fo3, there were like a handful of semi rare items that you wanted to keep for collection quests.
But the sink is fkn insane...

>>720179085
>take the cyborgpill
>become an apex lifeform with functional immorality

>>720162760
>Also Male Courier x Christine
lmao incel

>>720179752
GHOOOOOST BLOWJOBS
WOOWOOOOOOOOOO

You take all the gold legit, might take a few tries. Like for example you can drop all the gold bars on the ground in front of you as one bar, allowing you to sneak forward faster as you constantly throw it down in front of you.

>>720173201
So his plan was to use the cloud and holograms to wipe out all post-american civilizations and offer free food, water and medicine if you put on a bomb collar? Who would be alive to even take this deal?

>>720169325
ugh
le noble savages are fucking retarded

>>720181602
faaaaaaaag

>>720180850
>Cloud = Area of denial weapon with no countermeasures. long run times and ease of propagation via wind currents.
>Holograms = Static defense that can only be destroyed if you target the projectors themselves. No form of weaponry can disable the hardlight figures. Think of it like rolling fire if you attach said projectors to a small wheeled cart or an eyebot.
>Vending Machine = Proto matter replicator that can produce anything without needing an entire industral base just to fabricate the base components themselves.
Eljiah's big brain idea was to wash out the Mojave in the Cloud, take up residence on the Strip itself and maintain exclusive rights to the Hoover Dam. Using his autism and free power scale everything up until you reach self sustainability and rebuild your forces free from outside intervention. Eventually he would take the Repconn launch facility, fill two rockets up with the Cloud and fire them at the capitals of the NCR and Legion respectively.

>>720162683
all the effort for HH was put into making zion national park
the natives look good but the way they talk is just fucking annoying and doesn't make any sense; they aren't retarded, they're just not very technologically advanced
graham's voice acting is perfect and his character is pretty good
daniel is annoying and does not offer anything to support his position, never being able to challenge a single counterargument
all of the enemies are reused though i don't hate the white legs and their 50 cals
the 1911 is nice but all the unique weapons and armor are mediocre at best; most suck
dead money is more annoying to replay simply because it takes your stuff but HH commits the greatest sin of being boring

>>720174696
the questline is miserable but i like making the robots automatron adds and having them either guard settlements or making a giga nigga with twin explosive miniguns and two shoulder-mounted fat man launchers and just watching him absolutely annihilate everything

>>720158286 (OP)
>Learn to let go
>You do not in fact have to let go
>Say fuck the rules the indomitable human spirit shall prevalent
Get absolutely fucked

>>720158286 (OP)
Letting go is retarded, there is absolutely no lesson here, any angle is retarded. Worst thing is, whoever wrote this is a rich american raised in safe suburbia space, he got absolutely no idea about real life, in his worldview this letting go made a perfect sense, but in real world it's retarded.

>>720182306
The NCR might be held back by negative-plot armor. But truth be told if they lose the Mojave they are actually kinda screwed

>>720182306
>3 day special military operation in Mojave

>>720182627
>Radtrooper
>coating hordes of legion conscripts and raider shits in radioactive waste like you just crawled out of Saints Row 2

>>720181868
The natives should have been completely unable to speak English

It's two hundred years after the war, in real life our languages are almost unrecognizable compared to stuff back in the 1800s

>>720183969
>almost unrecognizable compared to stuff back in the 1800s
You don't really believe that, right? Even ~1600 in Shakespeare's time is still intelligible. You'd have to go back to 1400 and earlier to lose most meaning, probably because that was before the printing press and the beginning of the standardization of the written language.

>>720158286 (OP)
Kek I literally got all the gold in my first playthrough

>>720158286 (OP)
It doesn't matter that the message is thematically great and homage to a fantastic movie. That's the canon thing, as far as I'm concerned. Now we're going to munchkin it up and get that shit one way or another because it's fun.

>>720158286 (OP)
You know, if they wanted to seriously have the same message as the movie then maybe you should have had to kill all your friends if you wanted the loot. Not just have advanced jank knowledge.

>>720182446
ncr being overextended isn't plot crutch, it's a part of the setting

>>720158286 (OP)
>NOOO WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE WRITER’S INTENT
read a book pussy

>>720185193
Unless you do dlc after everything else, your image is retarded. If you do dlc after everything else, then you are retarded.

>>720158286 (OP)
Treasure of the Sierra Madre was good though

>>720165860
>movie

>>720185193
it's not about the money, it's about sending a message

>>720188632
>it's not about the money, it's about sending a message

>>720158286 (OP)
Probably because it's a video game and video games aren't art. I didn't take the gold though because I had a glitch where the turrets in one of those rooms near the vault couldn't be damaged and I had to strategically break my own legs blowing myself up with explosives to land over there and melee them. I very nearly softlocked myself and reached the DLC with a sliver of health, all my limbs broken and concussed, could not give less of a fuck about the treasure at that point I just wanted to LEAVE.

>>720188719
kek

>>720184843
Tulip my beloved

>>720188719
This but unironically

>>720164851
I kind of hate that siding with Joshua to punish the evildoers will lead to a "bad end" for Daniel and his adopted tribe. I'd make the same choice again since turning the other cheek doesn't really work in a world where murderous lunatics outnumbered peaceful people, but having the ending turn the Sorrows from a peaceful tribe to a warlike people never really made sense to me, especially when the ending slide said that they're following the example of Joshua; it would make more sense if there are two different endings for them where they become an aggressive tribe if you let Joshua kill the White Leg leader, and where they just become more pragmatic if you convince Joshua to let the White Leg guy go.

>>720163383
Don't you dare shittalk my adoptive grandma

>>720161270
i played all the games beside tactics and BoS and the correct opinion is DM>OWB>HH>LR

>>720182825
>Muh Ukraine war
>In a 2011 game

>>720182446
Mostly because they just lost several TWh per year of reliable, flexible electricity.

>>720158286 (OP)
All gaymers are like this. They HATE experiencing negative emotions because they need that dopamine hit like a drug addict. This is why most people should NOT be granted freedom, as we see in NuVegas, they will take shortcuts because they dont know whats good for them, the retards.

>>720158286 (OP)
Gamers are just like that, they want to have agency and fun first and foremost, not learn a theme/message. This is why Films are the better art form for storytelling

>>720182306
cringe

>>720158286 (OP)
The fun thing is that after you do i you realize actually liquidating the gold is a HUGE hassle, like i think only a couple of shops have enough Caps/Ammo to regularly handle like ONE bar before you need to wait for their restock, i think Gunrunners DLC Shop and the Sink are basically the ones that can. One Bar was genuinely all you need to be set for the rest of the game and now you got a bathtub of Bullions you ain't gonna use taking up space.

>>720193819
It does a good job of showing that like the writers, Dean Domino is a petty, pretentious faggot.

>>720193819
He's a cunt with an ego who thinks he's better than anyone. He wasn't going to forgive you for this.

>>720195461
If you left the DLCs until the end of the base game, then you will already be rich and don't actually need the gold at all.

>rush OBW for Christine's Silenced Sniper Rifle
>"Yep, now I can play the game".

But why does your character need to learn this lesson? Realistically your character doesn't give a shit about anything that's going on and just wants to leave

>>720195786
I do this but with DM for holoraifu

>>720159086
It's not about the caps it's about the spite.

>>720158286 (OP)
Because the gameplay is retardedly punishing with the speakers and holograms, walking off with all the gold is the biggest "fuck you" to the developers and their gay le letting go message

>>720196001
>speakers and holograms
Just be aware of your environment sis. The biggest problem in DM are the creepy zombies.

>>720193819
I always piss off this irredeemable faggot as much as possible in every dialogue option. I make sure to kill him along with the schizo mutie every playthrough. Only Christine deserves to live

>>720196119
Ghostiggers are not a problem at all if you're doing a keyed high melee run

>>720161270
HH has a great setting but it's shit gameplay-wise

>>720196507
This but DM.

>>720184843
>Rad x
>Rad x
>Rad x
Yeah, it’s gaming time.

>>720158286 (OP)
It's literally the lyrics of Hotel California made into a videogame.
Sawyer never realized that, before Avellone (who wrote the DLC in the first place) literally pointed it out to him.

Honest Heart scratches an Itch because unlike the rest of NV, its more post-apocalypse than post-post-apocalypse. The theme of warring tribal entities over resources and territory and spirituality returning in the wasteland is pretty standard post-apoc stuff.

>>720195162
Reddit and its consequences have been a disaster for Fallout.

I enjoy all the New Vegas DLCs. :)

I didn't need to glitch shit, I was astonished to find the game doesn't check that you're not over your weight limit when you walk out the gate back home, so I was able to go back overburdened by a literal tonne of armors, automatic rifles, police pistols and other valuable shit that I'd looted over the duration and shoved into a trash can by the fountain

And THEN there's this ludicrous regular payment of chips you can earn by cleaning out the casino, so you can drop by the bunker every once in a while to get a shitload of stim packs or weapon repair kits dispensed for nothing.

The gold bars are honestly peanuts in comparison to the LEGIT riches you can walk away with. These games always make it too easy to reduce money to a joke.

I get that its the point but not being able to re-visit and loot just sucks balls, especially when tbey put some good shit in like the automatic rifle which is very expensive to repair and

>>720158286 (OP)
it wasn't a glitch, it was a conscious design decision

>>720158286 (OP)
Nigger, if you want something challenging to let go of, ignore the weapon repair kit vending machine code.
The trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9hGqZ0LM-M) advertised the game as a horror, almost saw-like setting where you are forced to cooperate or else you die and once your captor gets what he wants with your hands he will let you go.
The player's motivations for entering the sierra madre can be anything from idle curiosity, being hungry and retarded, greed, or IDK REALLY
>>720161892
Lonesome road is the worst because you have to listen to a delusional nigger schizobabble that makes up a shitty backstory for your player connecting you to a place you (the character AND the player) have never heard of, seen, been to in any other video game.
Ulysses' babble migh impress you if you're an NCR fag and have neurosyphilis from being gay, I don't remember independent but House one he's assmad about doing what House is openly stating is his plan, if you pick legion it's an imcomprehensible show of delusions, hypocrisy and self contradiction where one second asselone's pet chimp says he's with the legion and will snitch on you to ceasar for killing everyone in copeville then he's no longer legion because his unga bunga tribe was told to shave and take a shower
>nukes are le bad... look at the assraped scenery
>btw detonate all 30 hidden nuclear warheads to maximize your loot gains and get a SICK trophy/achievement

>>720196923
Joshua carried Honest Hearts

>>720158286 (OP)
I don't give a fuck about your gay ass message, neither in a game nor in real life. At the end of the day, my life improves with more money, and that's literally the only thing i care about.

>>720180850
No, he held a grudge against civilization (NCR) becuase he was too stupid to reboot a computer to activate Helios 1 and saw the music video for depeche mode's enjoy the silence which gave him an idea to wipe out everything and sit alone jerking off to holograms of veronica 3d printing viagra, junk food and mentats.
>>720182825
>>720193192
>Conversely, his failure to annex the Mojave these seven years, and the immense costs of occupying a foreign land, have eroded his popular support.
From Mr House's dialogue as per VDialogueM_VDialogueMrHous_0014EAC8_4
Note that ukraine failed to placate or pacify the separatist sentiment in Crimea, Donbass and Luhansk for 8 years before the special needs military operation.

Old World Blues > Honest Hearts > Dead Money > a random troon's maggot HIV+ infested anus >>>>>> Lonesome Road

>>720196825
you have become addicted
to ghoul pussy

>>720198491
>8 years before the special needs military operation.
2022 - 8 = 2014
2014 - 2011 = 3

>>720158286 (OP)
>>people completely ignore the message
What do you think the message is, chuddie?

>>720195634
>If you left the DLCs until the end of the base game, then you will already be rich
Honestly, most people are probably already rich as soon as they find their first casino assuming they didn't start with 0 luck

BOIIIII, WE HAVE TO LET GO OF YOUR MOTHER'S INFIDELITY AND THE SIERRA MADRE GOLD BARS. WE. MUST. BE. BETTER. MEN.

>>720198647
Indeed, we could instead say that the incident that's going on between ukraine and russia is a fallout new vegas reference IRL

>>720198948
We won SAARS

hello anons, OP here. after completing my 5th playthrough of new vegas i decided to take estrogen and troon out just like the entire fallout community. wish me luck.

>>720198992
>BOIIIII, WE HAVE TO LET GO OF YOUR MOTHER'S INFIDELITY
tell me you are joking
stopped after GoW3

>>720199085
We must do the needful for independent vegas SAR

>>720160990
That's far harbor

>>720199232
be better and play cuck of war reboot

>>720158286 (OP)
Because the game is jank and the last part is middle to your face. Fuck the last part. I fucking hate those hologram guards and platforming.
>>720161634
You fucking suck. You can cheese through DLC game with grenades and knife spears very easily.

>>720162760
>>720164195
>Christine x Courier
Keep dreaming. Christine is one of dyke devs self insert mary sue. It's extremely obvious. The main reason why that bitch is in DLC in first place is because she got uppity after Elijah split her from Veronica. Keeping her alive doesn't make much sense either because according to ending slides she freely roams around the villa and Sierra Madre around ghosts, while Dean Domino himself confirms that ghosts are never friendly and are ankle biting niggers.

>sneak out completely within game parameters
>"y-you glitched"
Nope. Money is mine, poorfag.

>>720199232
I stopped after Ascension*

>>720161270
only thing I didnt like was the holorifle was just too stupid and nonsensical for me.

Nonsense ballistics, I can deal with it
Plasma, sure
Lasers, of course
Radiation is magical, no problem
Holograms are physical projectiles, why, what

>>720181651
I'd say holograms would be a bad idea for attacking but amazing at defending once you've taken an area, hide the emitters in a corner without line of sight to the entrance to a room and no ones getting in there without human wave tactics.

i like doing dead money as low level as possible, like level 4-5

also police revolver is great

>>720182627
I think they took military police a bit too literally there, usually MPs are just regular soldiers with an armband or something to indicate they're on MP duty.

>>720158286 (OP)
Sir, it’s a bethesda game. Thinking people won’t take the gold because its too encumbering is just full on naivety for the developer’s part

>>720172402
Still retarded that a man sustained by technology with a hardon for technology and a robot army sees no use for technology hording super soldiers that he could easily negotiate with like a business man.

>>720175129
Close but its Point Lookout.

>>720161270
OWB is fucking awful, Reddit-tier dialogue and shit gameplay. HH was meh, cool setting but not much else. The other 2 are great

>>720182306
god if only they didnt make the NCR so hilariously retarded and incompetent to the point that spear chucking chuds are a genuine threat.

>>720202704
There originally was an option to persuade him to spare them if the Courier was a member of the BOS, but the option was removed quite late in development so that people wouldn't just automatically side with House.
It's like how the NCR route had the option for the NCR and House to make an agreement and dialogue was written and recorded for it, but it was cut late in development.

>>720202918
They basically had to nerf the NCR into the ground with retardation, corruption, infighting, internal disinformation, etc. and making them an unpopular foreign adventure instead of being in the core territories. The Courier and Lanius (and his men) are the stalemate breakers. If the NCR was even semi-competent, then the game just wouldn't work without making massive changes to the Legion (such as making them sexist survivalists instead of LARPing faggots) to stop them from being ROFLstomped.

>>720166359
Low IQ

>>720178105
To be fair the dlc is designed to bury the courier in prickly pear fruits which can get melted down to salient green in OWB to break cooking. The pear fruits alone are an efficient staple to playing hardcore mode.

>>720182825
Kek

>>720193819
>pick passing skill checks
>get punished for it
Its a fantastic inversion of the skill check system that needed to be utilized more often.

>>720195461
I usually use the gold bars as the currency for buying all the GRA unique weapons so i dont actually spend caps lol. The true endgame is collecting all the weapons to be used during the finale at your liesure

>>720197404
>And THEN there's this ludicrous regular payment of chips you can earn by cleaning out the casino, so you can drop by the bunker every once in a while to get a shitload of stim packs or weapon repair kits dispensed for nothing.
The real trick is bartering spare loot with the shopkeeps in the sierra madre to get like 2500 wads of prewar money per shopkeep and converting it all to sierra madre chips when you finally hit the casino.

TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

>>720199905
>triggering elijah's hologram door as hes walking through it so you can VATS through it to the other side
Based. Nothin personnel, elijah

>>720198992
is there any particular reason this has been getting spammed literally everywhere on this board for the past 2 weeks or so? this game came out years ago, did a kid just find this "meme" really funny and finally figure out how to ban evade?

>>720172763
I think it was more of a path of least resistance thing. The game more or less defaults to the House path and without a curveball to make players go "whoa whoa hold on" they'd just do whatever he asked without question.

>>720160190
>all that long winded crap
>this is valid
Oh wow and here I thought you were going in the complete opposite direction.
Fuck I hate zoomers.

>>720158286 (OP)
uhm i never take them acktually
i always take one bar and never sell it, just put it on a shelf and look at it while listening to johnny guitar

>>720191998
Daniel is miserable no matter what you do. If I can side with Graham while exorcising his inner demons through mercy while ensuring my favorite irl vacation spot isn't sullied by the White Legs, then the Sorrows being more violent is a fine compromise. Randall Clark wanted them to defend themselves and Zion from hostile invaders like what he did with the Vault Dwellers anyway.

>>720206003
he literally opened with "it's good", i think you might have brain damage

>>720166359
yes man isn't even a legitimate ending, it's just a meme way out for retards who can't pick a direction

>>720158286 (OP)
>make a shitty engine
>oy vey how dare you to abuse our shitty engine
Bethesdaslops drones...

>>720158286 (OP)
I will steal all the bars, I will refuse to sell them, and I will stash them in some random container in my house for the sole purpose of knowing they're there and never look at them again.
Greed always finds a way.

Why has no one made an OG Ulysses restoration mod? Not like anyone cares about Ulysses as-is

>>720158286 (OP)
I will ruin the entire western economy and (you) can't stop me.

>>720161634
Holy skill issue

>>720199905
How did you managed to put him there?

>>720162330
>All 3 games are best enjoyed by ignoring the DLC
Retard

>take all the gold bars
>buy all the unique Gun Runner's weapons
>leave the rest of the gold bars in House's desk so he can use it to build space ships
simple as

i want to do another playthrough but i really cannot be bothered setting up all the mods again. being a gamer is one of the hardest professions.

>>720169627
I forgot how stupid the pit was.

>make ground texture that's practically impossible to see the bear traps in because it's so messy
>add a perk to let the player ignore bear traps
absolutely devilish design

>>720172159
The wrong hands according to BOS is anyone except them.

I'm thinking of doing charisma speech barter playthrough, should I bother to max out charisma? Even just for the character theme?

>>720158286 (OP)
So you have never seen the Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

The only thing they have in common is gold was involved

>>720202230
Probably MPs at the Embassy

>>720205829
>is there any particular reason
Yeah, it's called mental illness

>>720210268
doing it for the meme is the only valid reason to max out charisma, also it makes your companions stronger if you plan to use any. Otherwise I'm pretty sure that nothing in the game requires more than 7 and the stat is basically useless

>>720181537
absolute cinema

>>720205308
>trying to oneup a guy so butthurt he sits in the casino planning his epic ruination revenge on a guy who slipped, broke his neck and died because he wouldn't want to hurt the woman who betrayed him OVER 200 YEARS AGO
Honestly, I gotta respect the autism and spitefulness required to be so hung up over belief that
>>720210268
It's a severe waste when party time mentats exist.
Fallout New Vegas is easy enough to not require minmaxing.
If you were committed enough to do it you wouldn't ask here.

>>720211512
>throws a clutch of pulse grenades

>>720158286 (OP)
I just use TGM and steal all the bars, but I never sell them. They're for show in the Lucky 38 suite, by the time you do DM you should have more money than you know what to do with anyway.

>>720162330
>They are isolated experinces that force you stay inside of it until you finish it
You can leave at any time for Lonesome Road, there's literally "You can go home courier" spray painted every five feet on the walls.

>>720205860
But the game locks into the House route once you start helping him, so your only option at that point is the Yes Man route.

>>720210139
>Just let the Fiends and the Van Graffs carry on terrorising the wasteland using energy weapons, chud! Stop being bigoted!

>>720210268
There's a mod that makes faction reputation scale with charisma is you want to give yourself a reason to max charisma