Thread 720160746

What killed Master Duel and how can we save it /v/?

Master Duel is killing the TCG.

>>720160746 (OP)
start including general in the op so people know how to find the thread

>fat and flat
yuck

>>720160746 (OP)
Cute tummy. Also, I honestly think the game is doing okay. Malice and Ryzeal keep each other in check, and both are decently skillful. And Ill get to play @Ignister pure come the new pack

I'm seeing a lot of people say speed is good now, is it true? Ignoring DL kikery, skills sound like a good way to circumvent yugioh flaws like bricking and turn 1 advantage

>>720160746 (OP)
Ban lingering handyraps, ban one card combos, ban stun, and ban generic negate monsters

>>720160746 (OP)

>do some actual card hits and not "teehee we semi limited this card now its perfect"
>dont be 1 fucking year behind paper format
>more events with equalizing rules and a dose of randomness like the dice event

>>720160746 (OP)
I don't like this cycle of releasing broken archetypes and just banking on hitting them down the line to ensure balance, decks need more restrictions and locks which they absolutely know how to do because they do it to the decks they don't want to be good

>fat and flat
Very good.

>>720160746 (OP)
lack of slower formats
modern yugioh is too fast for most people

>>720165880
>B-b-but I'm just as skillful as my jex hero Joshua Jewmits....

>>720160746 (OP)
T U M M Y
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>>720168246
tummy yummy

>>720160746 (OP)
konami themselves by not banning problem cards
also every archetype releasing with 5 URs

>>720160746 (OP)
Bottom heavy

>>720160746 (OP)
Haven't played in a couple months, they add live twin or evil twin mates yet, or the alt art of called by?

>>720169538
None of it.

>>720160746 (OP)
not enough laundry

>>720160746 (OP)
Made for BWC

>>720169831
?

>>720161527
Urgay

Only the live twin support could save us from this dogshit meta

>>720160746 (OP)
It's like she has no breast tissue at all

>>720161527
The fat is fine. Flat is disgusting fag pedoshit.

>>720172058
>t. australian

The only way to fix MD is to directly fix Yu-Gi-Oh:
>Bring all deck archtypes up to speed
>release new cards for said archtypes to inject viability and balanced advantage
>unban all-around deck friendly cards like Terraform, Mystic Mine, etc
>stop trying to appeal to horny retards with a max capacity attention span of 1.55503848 microseconds. Malice is pathetic shit. Ryzen is boring as Fuck. Thank fuck that Eldlich, Monarchs and other decks are getting new support.

Tired of this cutesy waifu obsession shit. Tired of unimaginative shit.

Yu-Gi-Oh could be doing so much better.

You now realize that Ryzeal Cross's negate is not a HOPT.

>>720172058
What is the breast size of consent, exactly?

>>720172379
D+. The bigger the better.

>>720160746 (OP)
It needs a campaign like Forbidden Memories and Duelist of the Roses.

Should I dismantle my non-alt arts if there are enough of my alt arts?

>>720160746 (OP)
Post more sexy Verres. Also, more Witchcrafter support.

>>720169538
No, but they released A Bao A Qu, so you can now play a better version of pure Live Twin, although you will still want to add Fiendsmith for better extension and combo potential, since you can go Evil Ki-sikil into Requiem.

Nevermind >>720172709 the only card I could dismantle was 1 Cartesia lmao

Albaz, Aluber, Ecclesia, BEWD, Dark Magician, all cannot be dismantled
Evil Twins, I:P I don't have regular arts of

>try to have fun and rebuild my petdeck
>first opponent is the sweatiest motherfucker in the world
I don't know what I expected

>>720174267
>using millennium cards in a non exodia deck
Holy fuck lmfao. This tool....

>>720172350
>unban all-around deck friendly cards like Terraform, Mystic Mine, etc
>Deck friendly cards like mystic mine
Too obvious,.mate

>>720174428
Millennium is such a good engine that Golem got limited.

>>720160746 (OP)
The only thing I'm asking for is the new Dragonmaid support and alt arts, that's it, and yet they keep delaying them for who knows what reason, especially when the P.U.N.K. support was released months ago. I've been so bored that last month I couldn't even bother climbing to Plat, and this month will appear to be the same with the horrid unbanist they're giving us.

I'm done.
I'm finally fucking done with collecting this shitass WCS data.

Every player, every deck, every duel, every coin toss, every choice of 1st or 2nd, every win, every Maxx "C" resolution and negation, and the same for every Charmy.
I could've finished this much earlier, but watching the duels is such mind-numbing busy work, I could only do like ~15 duels a day, despite how short they are when fast-forwarded.

>>720031285
>>720029989
>>720020148
>>720011334
We prefer Ryzeal to Maliss around here, sis

>>720174483
Obvious? Of what, it's a good card. Banning is to supplicate smoothbrains

>>720174267
>almost half the deck is limited or semi'd
konami :)

>>720160746 (OP)
I hope that that drawfag got his dragonmaid support

>>720172560
It wouldn't take all too much to do that. You'd only really need three things, one of which is already kinda there:
>S-Force solo mode showed they can have talking sprites, so set up a variation where there's a text box at the bottom of the screen that includes a "character currently speaking" talksprite with the art displayed in the main area - rather than the text in the middle of the screen.
>Have it so that rather than being kicked back to the menu to choose the next option, it autoplays the next one with you having the option to back out - including the starting or and ending a duel.
>Simple decision options, even just an option A or option B.

They literally already have a choose deck function and they can just consult whatever you named your profile so they don't need to program in any 'choose name' function.

>>720174489
Hitting the millennium engine instead of the fiendsmith engine was such cope on konami's part

>>720174634
Considering that Dragonmaid is a Structure Deck, I am 90% sure that they are waiting to set its release to whenever they release a major Dragon archetype. I currently suspect that it's going to be Dracotail when they release it.

>>720174692
The effort is appreciated but since this is a picture for ants, what is your conclusion after gathering all of that data?

>>720176272
I'm just done with gathering the data, not with making the calculations.

>>720175634
They have alt-arts though, and also Philia Regis, that's at least 5 URs if Konami really wants to get greedy, why even wait more for Dracotail, that deck will take even longer to be released on MD.

>>720173001
in a couple days we should be getting that awful magistus crossover card that's a glorified foolish burial but my cope is that'll be an excuse to give us a magistus story mode and that'll lead to a witchrafter story and that'll lead to a Verre mate

>>720176424
Combining Dracotail and Dragonmaid grants a massive increase in power to the latter while Dracotail maintains a similar aesthetic style. This allows for them to lure back Dragonmaid players that have slowly dropped off by the addition of more Dragongirls, while making them more likely to stick around due to Dracotail being a strong deck of its own merit. The desire to spin the gacha even more can be further intensified by also including Dragonmaid Alt-Arts, making an overall themed pack.

I'm thinking on going back but I've stopped playing seriously around the Tearlaments Meta and I only have Snake Eyes as a meta deck.
I do have these I was looking to revive but not sure how well they can do in the meta.
>Adamancipators
>(literally almost any tier 1 deck from the first two years)
>Live Twins

>>720177476
That's cool and all, but I need something to spend my gems on right now, I already had to spend 1k because they were expiring yesterday, and I almost nothing of interest in the next pack other than the @Ignister support for M∀LICE. At least give us Orcust so I can try that.

Full power Tear vs full power Maliss.

Who wins?

The only 3 (characters and cards) that matter from 5D's.

>>720160746 (OP)
Truly cunnylicious....

>>720178065
Tear if Malice doesn't open with Shifter wins 9 times out of 10

>>720178065
Tear 100%

A near unhit Maliss has significant trouble against K9 and Dracotail because even their short Turn 0 plays are sufficient interruption to cause Maliss to break down and become a rogue deck. It may in aggregate partly be thanks to Lancea in Best of 3 being a severe cap, but even still...they are far from what Full Power Tear could pull off.

>>720174692
>>720176272
Btw here are some funny notes

>>720179119
Still saving these.

>>720178065
Tear, easily
Maliss got dumpstered in its own IRL format by Detonator pass

Yummy
>Cute
>Synchro

VS K9
>ugly (K9)
>Xyz
>ACAB

I have made up my mind.

>>720179746
So true sister

Purrely Horny Memory

Okay, I think I'm done.
Here are the results.
Compare with the other guy's data if you want: https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/tournaments/maxxc-WCS2025

Going first and winning the coin toss each give you about a 70% chance of winning (Tenpai not excluded from the former).

The data on MDM show a 47.62% chance of turn 2 player winning if they activate Maxx "C", while mine shows 45.24%. Probably just an off-by-one error on either one's end, since the former is 20/42 while the latter is 19/42.
Turn 2 player's Maxx "C" getting negated gave a 13.64% (3/22) chance of winning, while not activating it gave a 28.86% (58/201). Together, that's a 27.35% chance of winning. Data on MDM gives 27.03%, not sure where the discrepancy is.

You can read the data and compare the rest for yourself.

>>720182154
Is there any breakdown for the data on who typically won when:
>the Going 1st player resolved Maxx "C" but the Going 2nd player didn't
>going second resolves it but going first doesn't
>both resolve neither resolve

>>720182447
>>the Going 1st player resolved Maxx "C" but the Going 2nd player didn't
The number of duels where the turn 1 player resolved Maxx "C" is already small (only 51), so restricting it further wouldn't give statistically significant data.
>>going second resolves it but going first doesn't
Same as above, but 42 duels for the turn 2 player resolving.
>>both resolve
Same issue, but worse.

>>neither resolve
There are enough duels for this, but we won't see much different data from what's already there.
In all cases where Maxx "C"/Charmies did not resolve nor get negated, the win rates are about 70% and 30% for the turn 1 and turn 2 players respectively.
So basically if you take them out of the equation, you still get 70 vs 30. (rough sketch, not rigorous)

>Sky Striker is splashed everywhere again in TCG
Hope you fags liked Engage being off the list for like five minutes

>>720183387
>let's unlimit a non-OPT searcher that's easy to recycle and also draws 1 under easy conditions
>WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN

Hate Shill Strikers with a passion.

>>720183387
It's being splashed, but the main culprit is that Hornet Drones summons a Level 1 token that can be turned into a Link-1, which is a pair of things that has just ridiculous levels of synergy with Yummy.

There's certainly some other good synergies out there, but its representation would immediately and massively dive if Hornet Drones got banned rather than being at 1.

>>720184024
Replacing Hornet Drones with Raye only makes it slightly more fragile
If a link 1 sticks at all they're off to the races

Basically >>720182154
>turn 1 player's best chance of winning is resolving Maxx "C" but no Charmies, but by only 2% from activating none
>turn 2 player's best chance of winning is resolving Maxx "C" but no Charmies, which raises the chances by 16% from activating nothing

>>720184189
It matters more than you expect. Raye requires expending the normal summon. But more importantly, you can't do this line with her:
>Hornet Drones to create a token
>Use that token to create Kagari
>Use Kagari's effect to return Hornet Drones to hand
>Use Hornet Drones again to create a second token (not OPT)
>Kagari + Token = Yummy Synchro

>>720184842
>>Kagari + Token = Yummy Synchro
I LOVE SKY STRIKER ACE RAYE

gaylord

>Raye fucks around with Tenpai
>Raye moves on to Yummy
Raye is a whore

>>720183387
People will play a boring engine just to abuse a better pot of greed.

>>720184913
It gets real fun when you remember that CupsyYummy Way allows you to add 2 "Yummy" monsters from deck to hand on summon, requiring you to discard any 1 card from your hand.
Hornet drones may well be the best starter in Yummy.

How about we just not have this thread until tomorrow when the update drops?
Nobody wants to discuss Master Duel right now.

I quit during Ryzeal format cause I hate staring at gay ass looking robots. At least Maliss has a cool theme around malware and Alice in Wonderland. I'm also tired of petdecks like Branded getting prefered treatment in Master Duel because the entire deck now is all URs when you factor the alt art.

>>720186616
>Branded getting prefered treatment
>entire deck now is all URs
nigger what
Are you saying you want MORE decks to have a LOT of URs like Branded?
Because that's what you're saying by calling it preferrential treatment.

>>720160746 (OP)
Made for BWC

>>720160746 (OP)
Made for BWC

>>720172368
how in the fuck is this balanced

>>720188910
Trap card that does nothing going second
In a bo1 format that's way low value
Ryzeal also is not hurting for more interactions, five pops are generally more than enough

gaylord

Where is the Evil Twin support Konami?

>>720177434
You can't help but know how much Konami hates the fact that they are popular when Sky Striker got a full non targeting non destruction board wipe that also allows them to play engage up to 7 times in a turn.

>>720160746 (OP)
Having a banlist based on the fact this shit is FT1. Stop having a banlist that is catered to OCG preferences so heavily when MD should have it’s own clear cut list separate from the TCG/OCG. Having a banlist knowing what the fuck are the problem cards already due to the ling gap from releases, I don’t get very amped for playing Ryzeal/Maliss when all I hear is people enjoying Justice Hunters. Having a banlist that doesn’t show up after months be “here are two irrelevant cards up to 3” and only be that. Seriously you can hit Maliss without fucking hitting the Maliss cards directly. Some of the shit aren’t even URs that can be a potent hit.

And BAN THE ROACH. FT1 Full on Maxx C, Fuwalos and all this shit shouldn’t be all sleeping in the same bed for fucks sake.

Mating Pressing Purrely