Thread 720178915

Reddit and steam gamerdads are NOT happy about the difficulty in Silksong

>>720178915 (OP)
i dont get it. it's the same difficulty as hollow knight.

>>720178915 (OP)
The weak exist to be culled.
-Team Cherry

>>720178979
How many bosses in Hollow Knight dealt 2 damage and could summon adds

it's funny seeing the score drop from 99 to 90 after the posers actually started playing the game

>>720179007
idk to me it just feels like more of the same

>>720179007
A lot, actually. Just not at the start of the game.

>>720178915 (OP)
I really hope Team Cherry doesn't capitulate and nerf things or add an easy mode.

>>720179027
this is an actual criticism. there's also a lot of secret areas and platforming puzzles that lead to... rosaries.

>>720179110
Rosaries are in high demand so that's fine.

>>720179027
That pit is very clearly a troll.

>>720179110
same fucking thing in hollow knight, you get money or some shitty pin/badge/crest/whatever that you dont even use
this is a HK sequel, what are you people expecting

>>720179007
you also didnt heal 3 hearts at a time and couldnt do it mid air

>>720179007
stop taking damage

>>720179316
I was afraid silk would spoil me if I ever went back to 100% the first game and I already know it's going to hurt remembering this

>>720178915 (OP)
reading how even anons here are complaining about the game has me thinking that I'm some super gamer
I've never had any issues with rosary or shard count
I've never had to fight a boss more than a single digit amount of times
I thought it was going to get harder but apparently act 1 was the most difficult part

>>720178915 (OP)
GIT GUD!

>>720179423
>Damage on touch no thank you
wut? Was that not a thing in Hollow Knight? And every other metroidvania ever?

y'all being ableist
everyone deserves to enjoy games no matter how they play

>>720178915 (OP)
The game cannot be this difficult, bro.

Can you open the gate in the Far Fields village? The one with some big bug smashing into it from the other side.

>>720178915 (OP)
How many of these are actual criticisms and not written by game devs secretly butthurt about the price?

>>720179629
I never understood the complaint about rosaries. Are the fags on /v/ just ignoring the rosary strings and necklaces you collect? Do they break them immediately like retards? How many people are dying on the run bakc to their cocoon? You literally get a replenishing item that auto-collects your cocoon without having to do the backtracking too, so anyone complaining about not having enough money has to be retarded.

>>720178915 (OP)
Another prepare to die edition marketing

>>720179879
I want more of them, 30 anal beads is peanuts by act 2 you get that from killing two enemies

>>720179843
You get into that room from somewhere else. I forget how offhand.

>>720179981
Good news, you can get more of them. Rosary Strings give 60, Necklaces give 120, and Heavy Necklaces give 220. You can hold 20 of each type of rosary item, giving you a ridiculous amount of money storage, more than you might ever need.

>>720179986
That's good enough, I'll explore the last few areas and google it if I don't find a way in

>>720180096
yes the point you're ignoring is that the rewards for these convoluted sawblade pogo puzzles are annoyingly petty amounts of money you get for killing one enemy, enemies you probably fought along the way to get there

>>720180096
You don't get that many of them. I never used them and I don't think the highest tier even broke double digits.

>>720178915 (OP)
>dropped 7% in 2 days to 91% positive
>only 45k reviews

I don't feel so good Silk bros

>>720180312
that's a fucking lot bro

>>720180234
I don't know what game you're playing, I end exploration with multiple hundreds of rosaries in my pocket. Maybe spend more time in Greymoor or something, enemies with rosaries basically become the majority the higher up you go on the map.

>>720180259
If you have an excess of rosaries, just convert them into strings or necklaces at merchants. The 20 roasry investment is worth it if you struggle with collecting your cocoon.

>>720178979
Kids are frail these days. I'm sitting at Last Judge right now and thanking fuck that I bought the benches every time I saw them.
It's a good game. Makes me want to find a new job, so my hands can keep doing this when I'm older. Things started clicking again by the time I got to Sister Splinter.

>>720180397
Do you just not speak english or what? Are you a bot? Nobody is complaining about not having enough money, literally the opposite.

>>720179629
>reading how even anons here are complaining about the game has me thinking that I'm some super gamer
Half of this board is running crests other than hunter solely for the fact that they can't diagonal pogo.

>>720180507
One anon is literally complaining about "petty amounts of money", the other is saying he never uses his rosary items. These are both said in response to someone talking about whiny retards talking about how they have to grind more money. Can YOU not read?

It's just not all that great of a game

>>720180617
Maybe the reason people don't use their items is because money is plentiful and they don't have to? Maybe that's why nobody's impressed they went through a sawblade gauntlet for a 30 string when they already have nothing to buy? Maybe you need to brush up on your context clues?

>>720178915 (OP)
Am I the only one who likes the pogo and thinks it's easier than hollow knight?

>>720179981
>act 2
Those ants with the bone sword already give 25 and that's act 1

>>720178915 (OP)
You didn't like it either, you're just pretending it to yourself so you can feel special.
Grow up.

>>720179316
you need full silk for that though compared to partial healing in hollow knight. at first i thought healing was better in silksong, but going back to hollow knight healing is actually better there. especially with healing charms equipped.

>>720180678
it launches you way higher, dashing was pretty much required for lateral movement in hk

>>720179007
I think it was just
>Traitor Lord
>Nightmare King Grimm
>Pure Vessel
>Absolute Radiance
Traitor Lord doesn't have much health and not every attack does 2x. The rest are super aggressive and are way harder than anything in Silksong so far (end of act 1) (these reviews probably got filtered before then)

>>720180775
the latter three are all DLC too

>>720179743
You really expect these people to have played any other installments before the popular ((current thing))

>>720178915 (OP)
Radiant bosses ohkod you. They should be used to not getting hit. Are all of these people absolute retards?
It's common in metroidvanias to not get hit when doing boss fights and to earn some kind of medal by defeating bosses without getting hit or some other special condition.

>>720180678
I don't think it's easier but I love the hunter crest, the only other one I have right now is reaper and it's pogo feels really bad compared to the diagonal one.

>>720179027
Reminds me of the endless rope to 'fuck you' in lisa.

>>720179007
How often could you heal for 3 by default and midair in Hollow Knight 1?

>>720180943
I doubt even 1% of people did that shit.

Weird, I haven't had problems with it, and I'm kind of a casual by modern standards.
>streamer
>only really play games on stream now because real life is too busy
I don't even play meme "hard" games so I dunno. I just play fun indie stuff like Momodora. Kind of nice knowing I'm less of a scrub than average still

>>720178915 (OP)
i'm playing hollow knight 1
it's hard

>>720178915 (OP)
I'm basically an unc from these leddit zoomies viewpoint, and I'm not even as good as other players. Never claimed to be veteran souls players or a huge hollow knight fan like them.
Yet I don't whine as much as them and managed to surprise myself by beating some bosses on the first try by focusing and carefully reading the enemies.
Surely my old shitty reflexes are way worse than them. I really don’t get their complaints.

>>720180676
Nah, people are complaining about low money yields and "needing" to grind. That's all the context clues I need to know people are shitters who can't manage their money.

>>720178979
Huge fan of Hollow Knight excited to play it for the first time.

>>720181482
What you're saying is that those are still way easier than CV 1's Death and you have better movement options.

i'm not a fan of bullet hell metroidvanias so i'll just enjoy the pornography and maybe watch a longplay later

>>720178996
these guys look very fruity

A reminder.

>>720178915 (OP)
Anyone complaining about double damage has not yet encountered the myriad reasons the game is, maybe not outright bad, but in need of repair and definitely rough around the edges. Once again, people knee-jerk, and it destroys any meaningful criticism levied against the game. Like:
>terrible economy that requires regular grinding and produces frustration by not placing enemies that CAN be grinded within ares that require the commodity
>constant back and forth across a map that is, frankly, too big, with even worse hints than most Souls games when it comes to who to talk to or where to head next
>map is still way too big, producing horrible pacing and progression issues
>the early game SUCKS because of aforesaid lack of progression, and the only new, meaningful ability being the dash (which, to be fair, is great)
>a lot of bosses rely on either a gauntlet BEFORE they spawn, or add spam
>a lot of enemies rely on avoidance behavior, and fly away from you at a constant clip, attacking you reliably while you struggle to get close
>it's too fucking big
>you never really feel that powerful, which is a subjective thing, but for a game with so many tools and abilities, I want to experiment
>on that note, tools costing any kind of material to maintain, causing them to be of little to no help during tough fights (of which there are many) because you'll run out of helpful tools and have to, you guessed it, grind

That's just what I can think of off the top of my head. Not to mention you don't have your silk upgrades when you die, if you spawn without the aid of a bench (story checkpoint), you can't change badges or tools, etc. It's a pretty game, but it's as shallow as it is wide.

>>720181873
Getting knocked down doesn't make you a loser, staying down does. Believe in the power of Getter

>>720178915 (OP)
the first one already filtered me by being a banal metroidvania game with no level design and flash game combat

>>720178915 (OP)
Why is dark souls and celeste allowed to be 'difficult' but silksong is not

How the fuck are people running out of shards of all things?

is it actually harder or have the gamer dads just atrophied too hard and refuse to admit they're shit

t.hasn't played either

Not a single valid argument against this post.

>>720182092
It starts off at roughly the difficulty Hollow Knight ended at. Most people playing this are way out of practice and are playing Hornet like they'd play the Knight.

>>720182034
>celeste
Can't criticize an alphabet game
>dark souls
Plenty complained, that's how "git gud" came to be

>>720182101
His first point is already retarded.

>>720182034
Dark Souls 2 is trash because From catered to the le git gud audience.

>>720182101
Not a single valid criticism there

>>720182187
seems somewhat valid if they made a gamer dad game and then actually made a gamer sequel

>>720178915 (OP)
b..but they all said HK was the best?
how could they say silksong is too hard when it's on part with hollow

>>720181873
Nah, I'm a casual for not beating bosses in my first go.
Other's are scrubs for staying beaten.

>>720182251
>Dark Souls 2
>Hard
You are retarded, it's the easiest game in the series.

>>720181851
KLINEFELLAS

>>720182101
>Please let me break the game design by giving me all my abilities at the same time
>Please remove the exploration part of my exploration game
>Give me instant gratification when getting to a new area, don't make me figure out the map layout on my own
>I can't afford the things at the shops immediately, so I stop playing the game entirely to grind in one spot for an hour instead of passively earning the money needed to get certain items
>Give me the ability to teleport to exactly where I want right away, I HATE exploring the map
>Let me one-shot enemies instead of using the abilities I was begging earlier to give me full access to
>I'm a dumb fuck retard who can't keep mental notes of points of interest or make up my own labelling system for the custom map markers
>Give me nothing but instant gratification right NOW

>>720178915 (OP)
Get with the times unc. If Team Cherry is going to put out an awful game then im going to give myself invincibility to make it easier and people will shower me with praise

>>720179423
Sauce ?

What exactly is people's problem with running back to the Last Judge?
It's not far.

>>720182585
They didn't pay attention to the layout of the maps so they think it's mandatory to fight multiple enemies before reaching him again.

do I use the key on the door left from bone bottom or the door down in deep docks

>>720182648
Do what your heart tells you

>>720182462
I will pray tonight for that review to be an AI generated troll, i refuse to believe such a cucked sóy driven soul exists.

>>720182434
>Give me nothing but instant gratification right NOW
Biggest problem today.

>>720182638
...Are you serious?
sounds like they're being willfully bad at the game.

>>720182462
Based, I also use cheats like you in every game to piss off uncs and boomers. I use aimbots and cheats in online games too. I'll just say they're racist or sexist when they found out.

>>720178915 (OP)
i honestly have more respect for the people who are getting filtered because they have the self-respect to admit that an entire game made up of these enemies is not good, even if they had to wait 7 years for it.

>>720181913
>a lot of enemies rely on avoidance behavior, and fly away from you at a constant clip, attacking you reliably while you struggle to get close
This is so fucking OBNOXIOUS with flying enemies. I'm finding myself starting to avoid enemies because I can't be bothered to play their faggot dodge game. Some of these fucks should just be cannon fodder and not these gigantic nuisances they actually are. To think I ever complained about Aspids in HK, holy shit they really went insane with flyers in SS.

>>720182495
Steam reviews for Silkborne

>>720178915 (OP)
English reviews are 91% positive. It's just chinks throwing a tantrum dragging the score down

>>720183086
Silksong.
Holy shit. I can't believe I just did that

>>720179423
my perfect wife..

>>720183305
who is the artist

>>720182034
dark souls is not difficult
it's just unhinged
you can cheese the fuck out of any souls game

>>720183334
Pretty sure the signature is right here but I can never read these things.

>>720178915 (OP)
Difficult boss battles are fine. RNG elements in boss battles to make it more difficult is not, because then it becomes a matter of luck to beat them.

Doing runbacks to get to an area is fine. Doing runbacks to get back to a difficult boss you will likely die to again is not.

Bosses killing you in 3 - 5 hits per battle is fine. Bosses doing damage because your character was a pixel next to their body while they are stunned is not.

Interspersing your unlocks and rewards is fine. Going such a large amount of time with little to no progression in the beginning, especially with no way to get upgrades when walled by a tough boss, is not.

The game is an extremely well done package in terms of art, music, presentation, lore. It definitely deserves criticism for all the backwards design decisions and those are the reasons it won't win GOTY this year.

>>720183814
this game truly is dark souls 2 so over again

None of the issues are dealbreakers in a vacuum, but none of the systems feel designed to work together.

High enemy HP? Could work if you had high damage output from complex combos instead of just smacking them over and over.
High enemy damage? Could work if healing was reliable. Its not, don't give me the "midair" shit, you can get hit midair too. Forcing heals to 3 masks at a time a stupid idea. Finding cheeky windows to heal was part of HK's boss battles, and being able to scrape by a few masks here and there while trying to make it out of a dangerous area as long as you could get a hit or two in here and there built tension. Instead, all of the double damage, enemies with twitch dashes, inconsistent pogos over spikes, etc, mean that if you're down to a mask or two, you might as well kill yourself now.
The acrobatic combat could work, if you didn't lose 50% of your healthbar from being a pixel out of position, or had enough silk to actually use any abilities other than healing, or didn't have to farm ammo every few boss attempts.

>hurr there's a secret item hidden 90% through the main store that...
>hurr you can buy a thing from a vendor that...
Fuck off. Make good primary gameplay mechanics and build the game around them. If you have to opt-into something to make the game playable it should be part of the base moveset.

My only actual problem with the game is the runbacks. Everything else would be fine if I could just retry the thing that was hard immediately.

My only criticism is not allowing to change crests mid battle. Imagine the DMC kino you could do
>dash reaper attack to get enemy up in the air
>switch to another for the fast air attacks
etc

>>720183814
Fantastic falseflag, but try better next time.

>>720183928
But then the game would have to be balanced around that.

>>720184004
well yeah those niggers had almost a decade. We went through trump 1, biden 1, and trump 2 waiting for this shit

>>720184004
its not balanced around much to begin with, so that's not too much of a change

>>720183849
>difficult bosses that can kill extremely quickly
>lengthy runbacks that can have tricky platforming or annoying enemies along the way
>arenas where you have to clear multiple waves before the boss even shows up
One of them is completely fine, two is egregious, three is absolutely nuts (who the fuck thought bilewater was acceptable). The whole game is things that individually are fine but together are ridiculous and wind up feeling soul-crushing because you fight a boss and die and have to spend 5 minutes just to be allowed to fight the boss again.

>>720178915 (OP)
Reddit probably better than 4chan at the game when taken as a whole, though.
This place fucking SUCKS at video games. They complained about Bald Gay 3, babby's first CRPG, was too hard
LOL

>>720184004
Yeah, fuck fun- let me lock in to the reaper crest for the entire game instead.

>>720184081
The game was not made for you.

>>720184081
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm getting at. Each system feels like it was pulled out of a different game and shoved together, like they spent 6 years making 4 prototypes, saw their bank accounts were near empty, spent a year mushing them together and kicked it out the door.

>>720184154
Reaper Crest is scrub bait

>>720178915 (OP)
journos love it though?

>>720182910
Just duck, Nagga.

>>720184280
/v/ being outdone by fucking games journalists is genuinely depressing.

>>720184252
Has the best reliable pogo and later areas are a bitch so.
Also memory lockets are a thing so its not like you can swap at will without getting gimped.

>>720179423
I want to fuck that bug.

Bilehaven, even from the second bench is pure bullshit. Fuck Team Cherry.

>>720184310
I have no idea what is happening did team cherry give journos easy mode?

>>720184353
Memory lockets mean you really have to commit hard to one crest or else you're playing the game gimped until you get enough crests to max out another, which probably won't be for 20+ hours. But if you could respec them they might as well not exist and they become basically meaningless upgrades.

>>720182910
Quetzalcoatl is an easy af mob in the igavania games why are you pretending it's hard? Are you retards incapable of predicting curved motion?

>>720184396
journos proved over a decade ago you don't have to play games to love them

>>720184396
Silksong is a highly anticipated and extremely popular game that people were saying is going to be GOTY for years before it ever released. The first journalist to give it lower than 7/10 is going to get their twitter blown up with death threats, so nobody wants to do it.

>>720184438
I filled out hunter and reaper pretty quick, never got wanderer because I've yet to find a third simple key so I've still yet to find a need for any more, explore more I guess.

>crests
https://strawpoll.com/kogjRWPWEg6
https://strawpoll.com/kogjRWPWEg6
https://strawpoll.com/kogjRWPWEg6
ignore the missing two crests

>>720178915 (OP)
For me it is Bench Warp mod and the Rebirth mod that makes you respawn in the room you died. My time shall not be wasted by petty devs.

>>720184438
Or you could give the player agency to experiment and... have fun, a concept too hard to grasp for you i guess.

>>720184396
they didn't give out review codes so they had to buy it, meaning only journos that actually care are playing it

>>720184554
>Or you could give the player agency to experiment and... have fun, a concept too hard to grasp for you i guess.
That's literally what I'm saying, anon. The crest system prevents you from having agency to experiment because you have to expand them with an extremely rare and highly valuable upgrade.

>>720184310
>>720184396
>the people who couldn't get past the cuphead tutorial are now beating a game that takes good players 20+ hours on their first attempt in a few days
or
>they watched a streamer play it and wrote a glowing review for good boy points

occams razon, anons

>>720182910
Still pretending to be a castlevania fan?

>>720178915 (OP)
my autistic brother who is ass at games because of bad coordination is not having any particular trouble with Silksong so despite not having played it myself and having no intent on ever touching it I have come to the conclusion that it is an easy game for babies and will stick to it

why don't enemies that drop rosaries respawn on screen transition early game when i need literal hundreds to buy all the garbage from vendors. why is this game coded like an mmo from the 1990s

I pirated the game, never touched hollow knight. Was always a massive hater, thinking its just another dime a dozen super metroid clone.
After two hours i bought the game cause i really liked it.
It's not even hard, it's challenging sure but the difficulty is very standard. Some bosses and encounters that I thought were fucking bullshit i just adopted a new strat and played more patiently.
Like in hunters march, the gauntlet you run with that cartographer. I thought it was terribly designed. Then i just thought "I'm gonna focus on dodging and leave all the attacking to the bitch" and suprise it worked.
Against the big fly, I was getting actually pissed off with that battle, especially the cage trap on the trip every time, but I kicked his ass hard.
The game feels like Order of Ecclesia, almost to the T. Not mechanically but just in difficulty.

>journos are watching streamers
what a time

>>720178979
Maybe Im not 33 anymore but finding Silksong significantly harder and bulkshitty. No idea where you people are coming from unless you are talking path of pain and DLC.

>>720184703
So it's kino that filters retards who are used to only needing to facetank and heal

>>720184657
capitalism bad
seriously that's the bit

>>720184802
reaper and bug juice lets you facetank and heal pretty easily though

Just wanted to throw this in a random Skong thread because I found something neat.
I'm on a second playthrough, and I wanted to see what happens if you go to the citadel through the Exhaust Organ instead of the proper way. Turns out that TC accounted for that, Lace comes and talks to you as you enter the Choral Chambers and it initiates the Act 2 screen. However, you can also do this and not activate Act 2, since it only triggers when you leave the Grand Bellway station. That means you can sneaky grab the Choral Chambers map + elevator + Grand Bellway station, then back out while remaining in Act 1.

>>720184841
You gotta kill the fly to get reaper though so the people who are getting filtered wouldnt even reach that point
>>720184802
Honestly, yeah.
I always know i might like something a lot if every negative review is about difficulty.

>>720184935
I did the exhaust organ. Judge is no longer guarding the door, wonder if I skipped him?

>>720179629
/v/ has changed. It’s no longer about vidya, gitting gud, or acomplishments. It’s an endless series of shitposts fought by browns and bots. /v/ – and its consumption of twitterposts – has become a well-oiled machine. /v/ has changed.

I just reached Belhart. What are the bosses that are supposed to be rage-inducing?

>>720185008
Gamergate was 11 years ago.

>>720185032
lol
lmao

>>720185002
Did you get the Act 2 screen before going to him?

>>720178915 (OP)
>seething ESLs can't gitgud

>>720184703
I bet those who claimed they played the first game actually lied anyway

>just TOUCHING moorwing does 2 masks of damage
cmon now

>>720185079
I fought her 3 times, said fuck it, got the act 2 screen, went back from the other side. She's gone!

>>720185032
You will fight one of them to liberate the town.

>>720185178
It would of been a great fight without the first stage. Repeating it was boring as hell. Same for phantom and the robot dancers.

>>720185070
The few threads I popped into I saw complaints about Memewing and he wasn't that bad. Does it get tougher?

>>720185137
Surely moved somewhere else, right? I can't imagine they'd lock you out of completing the Hunter's Journal permanently.

>>720179110
>>720179146
I don't mind rosaries, but the amount is piss poor. I should be able to buy everything just by solving the jump puzzles, and not have to grind like an MMO pleb to buy a fucking CHAIR.

>>720185064
And I still don't really know what the fuck happened with all this. Like I was called a gamergate when all that shit was going on and I still don't know what I was being accused of or what that meant.

>>720184941
To be honest blasphemous felt harder although I'm still in act 1 since I can only play on weekends.

>>720185114
I believe it, they watched a streamer play it and thought their vicarious experience was their own.
I swear, team cherry better not issue an easy mode for the crybabies.

>>720183132
I dont even see the chink reviews anymore, same as most people

Its 92% for me

>>720179146
all the rosaries i've spent are one i grinded though. i lose them if i'm out and about exploring, so ones i find are worthless.

>>720178915 (OP)
People just have to accept that the older you get, the less you could play and "enjoy" games that ask for good reaction times.

It is what it is.

>>720185550
You don't need good reaction times for this game though.

>>720185267
naw it's easy

>>720179110
Not even rosaries, a pitifully small amount of rosaries. You'll do an entire room with a difficult platforming challenge and get rewarded with 30 rosaries when you're at a point in the game when that's two enemies and everything you need to buy from the store costs 700.

>>720178915 (OP)
I am not that good at this game probably, but I am fully capable of grinding bosses for hours until I fucking win. I spent like 3 hours probably fighting First Sinner for example. People who stop playing a game because they get frustrated over the difficulty are pussies.

People got memed into thinking HK was hard, when it's actually a piss easy face tank fest aside from Radiance and the DLC. So all the FOMO bandwagoners and "massive hollow knight fans" who only got the basic ending are getting a reality check when Silksong is actually hard.

>>720181851
>fruity?
No this is fruity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf2K2PuEUv8

>>720185858
>3 hours probably fighting First Sinner
bro you might actually be braindead. she took me 3 tries

>>720178915 (OP)
>zoomies see hype
>instantly buy product without looking what it is
>its not what they like but force themselves on the bandwagon anyways
>get buyers remorse anyways
Its another "backlog" product for them to get mad at.

>>720178915 (OP)
>swallow night shitsong

>>720185681
Doesn't help that bosses don't drop currency in this, hell, sometimes they drop nothing at all outside of letting you continue forward. Feels like I'm missing something half the time when the fight is over.

>>720181913
>>720183070
You are meant to use your projectile attacks to kill flying niggers.

>>720185858
retard, this game isn't for you. I beat he on my first try with my dance mat controller.

>>720179081
>A lot, actually.
>Uumuu (it was the adds that did double damage and they were passive mobs)
>A few Attuned bosses in Godhome
That's literally the entire list.

>>720179423
More like mindbreak souls-fag, because they can't find build to cheese the game and had to rely on skills

>>720182046
Pretty easy, getting stuck on a boss and having to replenish your gadgets multiple times quickly drains your shards. Depending on what tools you have, using all of them in a boss fight may cost you up to 100 shards if not more.

>>720180991
Lisa the Joyful had an even longer climb in it lol

>>720178915 (OP)
>Silksnog

>>720186150
Reminds me when Sekiro just released and the "souls veterans" complained because they can't overlevel or summon

I think it's interesting that this supposed Metroidvania followed the exact trajectory of nu-Soulslikes, namely abandoning exploration, story, and RPG mechanics in favor of autistically hard and repetitive bossfights.

>>720183916
Once you get good CONSISTENTLY, the runbacks become nothing to you.

>>720186154
This is why tools are a crutch and you should only realy on the nail

>gotta grind shards if a boss walls you
It really is the Bloodborne to Hollow Knight's Dark Souls 1.

>>720178915 (OP)
Bosses have been great.
Mobs have mostly been unfun trash best avoided.
Garbage rewards and upgrades.
Otherwise it's just more Hollow Knight.
Also Hornet doesn't have a gigantic ass like in fan art, 7/10.

>>720178915 (OP)
I'm not playing silksong, i'm playing another metroidvania called afterimage, i've been thinking maybe I should have set it to hard instead of normal, I almost did but I was too traumatised by the ass reaming I got from trying to play lost ruins on hard, the important thing is both these games have options, cherry cunts need to swallow their pride and provide such

>>720186337
I wish it'd abandoned exploration. Might have had less retarded bullshit like finding Wisp Thicket that way.

>>720185945
I'm not a young lad with quick reflexes anymore.

>>720186387
buttborne is much easier than any souls game

ZETSUBOOOOOOOOOOU

>Silksong is too hard!
>I miss the old charms! where is my long nail?!
>too big
>too much platforming
>why can bosses spawn adds?
>why do bosses do 2 or 3 points of damage?
>why is there contact damage?
>why do I have to play this game!?
>artificial difficulty

>>720179007
which abilities and charms in hollow knight give you this kind of mobility

>>720178915 (OP)
Shitsong

>>720186458
DeS and DAS1 are far easier, but BB is probably right after them.

>>720185858
These zoomers are too used to spending $1000 to get a new waifu and play on baby mode

>>720186387
>shards
I almost never use my tools so I'm nigh constantly maxed out on shards. Just don't see the point when Hornet is already a wizard with her needle.

>>720178915 (OP)
if they wanted to make the game faster paced this early on they could of at least given us the dash at first since it feel like bosses and enemies attack too fast for how slow hornet moves assuming it's in this one.

>>720186591
quick slash and dashing, simply breathtaking

>>720186591
>posts someone else's gameplay video
>pretends to be good
>still gets domed for 2 from an attack he had zero chance of reacting to
You are proving something, just not what you seem to think you are

>>720180818
Silksong is a DLC too

>>720186649
Speeds up fights significantly, especially if you're using them in combination with melee. Plus they're generally free DPS when the boss is doing their "get off me" attacks.

>>720186749
>that slow ass windup
>zero chance
you may be even more retarded than the guy playing

>>720186591
These enemies are fun to fight. Even when those stupid puppets appear, they're not hard to take down either.

>>720186749
>someone else's gameplay video
sure bud
>still gets domed for 2 from an attack he had zero chance of reacting to
you really couldn't react to that? the only reason i didn't just pogo again is because i wanted to show off and parry, but i mistimed it. getting hit actually demonstrates something else though, how fucking easy it is to disengage and immediately get 3 health back before reengaging.

>>720178915 (OP)
>>720178979
As much I'm having fun the attack range is kinda trash

>>720181913
>>terrible economy that requires regular grinding and produces frustration by not placing enemies that CAN be grinded within ares that require the commodity
just do quests, bro

>>720186851
How do you make the puppets show up I only saw it once and it killed me

>>720186749
>zero chance
hahahahahhaah thank you for the laugh i needed it today.

>>720179743
I'm enjoying SS, but 2 mask damage on contact, on a stunned enemy is fucking retarded.

>>720180572
the diagonal fucking blows anyway, it's lucky to be bad at it and that singlehandedly get you using reaper

>>720186925
They show up randomly if you're fighting a Citadel-aligned enemy, but NOT the Choir members. Most often those knights up at the top.

>>720186954
why would it be any different than getting 2 masks broken on a sleeping/idle/etc big boy

Here's a single objectively good change that can be made:
>if you die to a boss, you won't lose any shards when you wake up and recraft your items back on the bench
Being able to run out of shards if a boss is walling you is and have to leave to grind them is objectively bad design. Honestly, I feel like completely doing away with shards and having your tools be finite resources that are replenished at benches would be good.

>>720178915 (OP)
Mobs dealing double damage so early in the game is bullshit, though not as retarded as making staggered boss deal contact damage. Otherwise, the difficulty is fine

>>720185858
Based unstoppable force

>>720178915 (OP)
>steam gamerdads
The endless stream of queer speak that comes out of social media. Go ahead and start calling everything daddy. See where that gets you.

>>720181913
>you never really feel that powerful
this is the crux of my problem with it. Why I love the genre is that I am rewarded for exploration, if I struggle with a boss I can just explore for powerups. That entire aspect of the genre is absent in Silksong.

>love hunter crest
>it has the shittiest slots
wtf man

>>720185339
The website was pure in 2003. Just hard-core nerds. Place blows up in 2008, bunch of edgy nihilist college boys show up. Everyone's trolling, telling jokes and discussion takes a hit. Than 2014 happened. Before this place was wealthier, white, higher IQ. Gamergate brought the biggest losers in the world here. Just angry low IQ incels eager to fight feminism. Thus pol was born and the consequences have never been the same. I actually think the 2021 newfags are a huge step up. That 2014-2020 crop was something else. Just sad.

reminder that if you haven't beaten the game before the inevitable damage nerfs, you didn't REALLY beat the game

uninstalled after beating moorwing. lace was the only boss that didn't feel like i was just fighting a big flying hurtbox. surprised to see so many people pretending to enjoy it

>>720186749
bro if anything he is making those guys look harder than they actually are.
>goes in the air
walk forward a bit and he will miss you
>silk attack
dash away or walk away if you can react fast enough
>normal melee attack
stand still and jump over it
>parry counter
stand still and double jump

>>720187190
If this is gonna be another deltarune where I have to keep steam offline to finish the game to avoid a gay patch ruining it a week in I'll just pirate everything for the rest of my life

this game sucks lol. i just installed cheat engine and speedrunned beating the game. the art is nice but thats about it.

>>720187159
You weren't here you fucking faggot lmao. Do you know how many ERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA anf togi-chan threads I couldn't even filter back them? Or what about Snacks sucking himself off like the gigafaggot he was. Shut the fuck up you fucking poseur lol. Cargo culting subhuman nigger.

>>720187306
You cheated not only the game, but yourself.

You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.

You experienced a hollow victory.
Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.

It's sad that you don't know the difference.

>>720187004
>big boy
Don't ever reply to me again mexican faggot.

>>720180756
>you need full silk for that though
No, you need as much silk as you can hold with no upgrades. Also you get more crests that change how the healing work, like the unga bunga crest that just lets you get 15 seconds of +1 life on hit.

>>720187306
most bugfags are doing this and pretending they beat the game lmao.

>>720187297
Set the appmanifest for Silksong to read only and launch from the executable, that'll prevent steam from autoupdating the game entirely.

>>720178915 (OP)
But /v/ told me it's reddit who loves it. What is it?

>>720187473
would you prefer big boi? a chonker? an absolute lad? would any of those terms lead to you handing over an actual argument?

>>720187670
Reddit loves posting fanarts and fanfic about the game, not actually playing

This game was made by jews

wanna actually finish a full playthrough of the original HK before hitting silksong
that said i still think a large amount of HKSS's gadgets are really fuckin cool
like, is the rosary cannon any good?

>>720178979
its just not fun

>>720179027
Exploration != waste of time

>>720187843
it's good if you're willing to autistically grind for rosaries to keep it stocked

>>720179110
If a secret area just leads to rosaries it's usually a really simple forming challenge. The scale the reward with how difficult the secret is, and that makes perfect sense to me

>>720187391
>You experienced a hollow victory.

The backtracking especially is a pet peeve of mine. Honestly the only metroidvania in modern times I played were Bloodstained and Metroid Dread but it didn't have something as obnoxious as the first hours of Silksong where immediately you have pits and ledges that threw you back at the very starting point. It's not even unlocking new checkpoints, it just throws you at the beginning for no reason but just for backtracking for backtracking's sake.

>>720188004
CARLOS I'M GONNA STRANGLE YOU

>>720188026
>no reason but just for backtracking for backtracking's sake.
it's because the game starts with you falling into the pit. Of course it was going to take you back to the bottom. Are you just a retarded autistic fuck who jumped into the pit again every time you saw?

Hornet fans don't look

>>720186403
>cherry cunts need to swallow their pride and provide such
Why dont u swallow ur pride and git gud

>>720188136
Hornet isn't the one to write those notes.

they really just need to buff the charms. There are only two fucking slots per color, none of the charms should have any downsides and they should all be competing for those slots rather than mostly just being kind of ok.

>>720178915 (OP)
Let's me get this straight:
Steam is Reddit and (established) Journalists are 4chan now?

(Silsisters, Not sure if we can get this cope to stick...)

>>720187087
The upgrades in silksong are perfect because they don't raise your base power level, but they do raise the skill ceiling. You have to progress in your skills alongside the powerups and it feels great once you master it. You sound like you just want games to play themselves for you

>>720188131
There are at least 2 or 3 pits at the start of mosshome that take you back at the bottom. I'd rather the game just kill you than have you run all the way back from the start.

>>720182101
>ubislop fast travel
>map needs to be realtime GPS
glad these people can't make games

>>720188152
>Hornet isn't the one to write those notes.
Stop coping

>>720188230
Then don't jump in the pit you dumb nigger

>>720181482
quickicus was unironically a fun fight

Wait so is the gay prince also incestuous for his twin brother? Or did I completely misunderstand that lore tablet?

>>720188218
>getting more powerful in a video game is BAD because
>b-because I said so, okay?!
well have fun hitting the same fucking flying enemies 6 times forever and ever

>>720187820
Reddit is like /v/?

>>720188325
>Killed him in his memory
stupid dead

what are the best farming routes for rosaries and beast shards? im in act 3 which adds the annoyance of enemies randomly getting 2x health for no increase in reward

>>720188364
Ok, so you're just one of those faggots who doesn't actually want to discuss things seriously. This is the last (you) that you get

>>720188267
And how would I know that it would take back there? This is a metroidvania game. Any hole that isn't an immediate danger like boiling lava or filled with spikes, is always bound to lead to some hidden area or side area. Worst part is that this only mostly happens in Mosshome purely just troll you of your expectations of the genre because later on every other pit drop serves as some sort of shortcut or just making you realize where things connect to.

I like it, but just like with the predecessor, some of the design decisions baffle me
>you get a map for an area, but most of it doesn't get filled in until you've explored it or reached a save point
>save points and maps themselves are paid for in a currency enemies in many areas don't even drop
>basics like map markers are also paid items
I think where stuff like this confuses me is, none of it makes the game more fun. Like I've never played a hollow knight game and been like "oh, this game is so much more fun than metroid or castlevania because the qol stuff got reduced"

Groal the Great

>>720188417
Because the game opens with hornet falling down a massive pit, and other than maybe the one at bone bottom, it's all clearly the same pit. Use your fucking brain for once.

>>720178915 (OP)
>have problem with boss
>dark thoughts "it's game's fault 2 damage OP this is unfair" appear in my head
>remember that I'm not reddittranny
>suddenly I can see the openings, telegraphed attacks, healing opportunities
>win
>feels good
Yep it's GOTY. During the fights you can generate a lot silk for damage instead of hoarding it for heal.

>>720188410
I am all for a serious discussion on why getting the ability to kill the same mobs you have already been killing for the last 10 hours in less hits is actually bad and totally not mental illness, actually

>>720188438
You don't understand, this is the first and only game I've ever played, aside from HK. They are perfect, because they literally, to me, have no comparison.

>>720178915 (OP)
This is all because Silksong became the HL3 of indie games so a bunch of retards who normally would never touch a hard game bought it anyway. The game generated way too much hype for normie gamedads to ignore.

>>720188465
You're wrong because there are also pits in bone bottom that don't lead back at the very start of moss home. Some take you to the docks. And this is before you encounter shakra who sells you the maps so you have no idea where each pit takes you.

>>720188438
>you get a map for an area, but most of it doesn't get filled in until you've explored it or reached a save point
This is based and I wish people weren't such brainlets about it. Too many metroidvanias are map fests where you just look at the map constantly, making you pay zero attention to your actual surroundings. HK/SS want YOU to map it out in your head when you first explore it. It means you actually have to exercise some memory/navigation skills for once

>>720188152
Those are all Hornet's notes, but her demigod status makes her nigh-immortal and her divine soul fuels her. She mentions to the innkeeper at the Halfway Home that she doesn't really need sustenance.

>>720188541
Wait, what the fuck are you even talking about? There's only 1 pit in bone bottom near the town that takes you back to the start

Benches before all bosses kill the immersion, it’s no longer a demon lord in his castle but instead another kill to check off the list.

>>720188571
>HK/SS want YOU to map it out in your head when you first explore it. It means you actually have to exercise some memory/navigation skills for once
Then I wish it was more like metroid, where there's enough variation within environments to aid in doing this. Hollow knight environments tend to look nice but also pretty samey throughout, especially compared to later 2d metroids

>>720188718
Personally I'm a fan of placing three bonfires right next to each other.

>>720188636
I'm talking about pits after you exit the settlement. Other pits like the ones from the top near the bell beast boss fight where you unlock your first elevator.

How to make any game an instant, must-buy HARDCORE CLASSIC for HARDCORE GAYMERS in 4 easy steps:
>Set PlayerHealthMulitplier to 0.1
>Set EnemyHealthMulitplier to 10
>Set EnemySpeedMulitplier to 10
>Spam "NORMIES HATE THIS GAME" on /v/
>No ???
>Profit

I played HK blind and never had Idea the map is apparently "an issue" among gamers.
>>720188881
Malding.

>>720188749
>Then I wish it was more like metroid, where there's enough variation within environments to aid in doing this.
I don't really have this problem, but I understand why the individual rooms could feel this way

>especially compared to later 2d metroids
Ok this I don't get. Unless by "later" you mean super/fusion and not samus returns/dread. Recent metroid games have some pretty samey environments too.

>>720188764
And... what's the problem with those? Like you said, it's where you unlock an elevator so I fail to see the problem

>>720188881
/thread

>>720182101
i haven't even played the game yet but i can already tell this dude is a huge faggot.

>>720188895
Yeah I mainly mean super and fusion. Fusion specifically is really good about this, if they made a hollow knight game that's as fun as fusion overall I'd redact all my criticisms of the series

>>720185858
You are admirable and have the right attitude anon. I commend you.
I too sometimes struggle with bosses but trying to overcome odds is part of the fun to me.

>>720188881
I'm sorry you're bad at video games.

>>720178915 (OP)
The game is not hard.
I probably fought the most bullshit bosses like only 5 times. that's insignificant but there's a reason it 'felt' like an ordeal.
there are other monumentally harder games where I've spent like 50 attempts on boss fights.
in fact if the combat is well designed in a game, I often just restart if I take damage and like to completely no-hit dominate a boss fight.
the difference is those games respect your time. They don't feature a 5 minute walk back to the current content.
and that is not challenge. it's padding, it's slop and not something I will stand by.

that's why the game "feels" hard.
it's not hard. I guarantee you've died to other content in harder games a lot more.
but this game is deliberately wasting your time and thus it fells like more of a slog.

I really hope they're not going to nerf the game under pressure of "main audience".

>>720186583
>too much platforming
This is true... the vertical platforming difficultly is off the charts and is just getting started.
t. Finished Sinners/Bilewater/Mist

The other issue is the lack of rewards (Specially masks) and good charms...

Also the Bind/Heal scales with Thread meter (or Spirit meter) which means I need to hit even more trash mobs to heal....

>>720188472
fucking based

>>720189290
>5 times
>5 minute walk back to the current content.
You're not fooling anyone.

>>720189320
There's literally more masks in this game than in hollow knight

>>720189290
It also feels like there are bosses with patterns that aren't that bad, but with lots of hit points to where it feels more like a patience test than anything else

>>720178915 (OP)
Normalfags feel so entitled to be able to experience everything
If this game hadn't become a meme none of these people would even be playing it

No one ever liked this Soulslop trash. Muh no story, muh cryptic dialogue and weird NPCS, my go out there and do whatever for zero reason. Only "le deep" plebbitors like this trash. Same people who watch 3 hour long Youtube videos about Elden Shit lore.

Nine Sols is so much better than Shitsong. No runbacks, no backtracking, no farming, no cryptic shitty story and dialogue a la Soulsshit. Just a damn good game

>>720189364
at 5 minutes walk that's almost half an hour of your play time wasted.

>>720189456
>it's him again

>>720178915 (OP)
Good

>>720189456
why is it called "Sols' then?
yeah I get the legend of the 9 tailed fox but the name is formatted to give the impression it's another souls clone.

>>720178915 (OP)
It's definitely harder, and some parts are bullshit, and I've quit it three times, and I quit for good after the Last Judge, and now I'm in the Choral Chambers waiting for the next time I quit again.

Just keeps bringing me back in, God damn.

Guarantee any replays I do will be done with mods to tone down some of the bullshit, but I'm gonna earn that by doing it properly my first time round.
For all the bullshit, I really love too many things about the game to stop.

WANDERER CREST IS THE ONLY VALID OPTION

NOT BEAST
NOT HUNTER
NOT REAPER

WANDERER.

>>720189483
Post me a video of your 5 minutes walks.
What actually your post is about
>I'm bad but 4channers wouldn't listen my complaints...
>I should say game is not hard and cry about mythical 5 minutes walk
>This way I will sound like 4channer who is good at video game for sure

>>720189707
Too short vs flying cunts, reaper better

Go play ninesols and tell me this shit is hard
It isn't

Fuck you

>>720187085
Retard, that just means all the faggots who are all like "HURR I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GITGUD I HAVE TO LOOK AFTER MY WIFE'S BULL'S COUSIN'S KEK'S WIFE'S SON"
The kind of faggot who would refer to working as Adulting.

>>720189707
You did not beat the game

>>720178979
I'm enjoying it just fine because I knew what I expected going in. It's a decent game, a bit better than the original imo. I will never understand all this retard rage from bandwaggoners who just expect to buy the game and automatically have an amazing "experience" like it's a Sony movie game or something.

Another minor gripe I have with this game, why break up platforming segments with a bunch of flying faggots that take just enough hits to kill to slow down the pace? Just doesn't add anything to the experience, kind of like the "farm these items from these enemies for this progression item" pointless fetch quests in a game that doesn't need this kind of padding

How on earth do I get the flea between songclave and the ducts? I have np idea where he could be

Looks like a mobile game. Gay.

>>720189762
nice cope faggot. you know there is a walk, you're gonna try an deny it?
are you going to try and conflate it with real challenge?
SS does not test your skill as much as it tests you patience.
games that spawn you closer to the content have killed me way more times but I don't feel like my time is being robbed there.

I'm telling you your perception of the game being "hard" is based on how much of your time is being wasted. not on the challenge itself.

>>720185474
And that is your fault for dying again without recovering them

>>720190004
>mask falls off
KEK

>>720186637
I think a lot of zoomies played Elden Ring with a guide open and now they're annoyed that they can't cheat their way into being OP in 10 minutes.

>>720189865
People want to play a 2D platformer and have fun.

I like the challenge but I can see why some people don't like the increased difficulty in some areas

>>720189950
>break up
Skill issue. Try to use jump attack to speed up your platforming.

things in SS that are not fun:
- everything

>>720187070
I feel the complete opposite way. It's just extra motivation to kill that boss.

>>720189865
>automatically have an amazing "experience" like it's a Sony movie game o
But their move games all have the worst first hour or two every single time

I think the difficulty came from day one and two, but when you sit and think about it, you actually do have enough to get by a lot of early issues and bosses.

ACT 1 is legit a long-ass tutorial on how to move and attack. A lot of people from what I have seen auto pilot into pogo, and don't see just how many options they have. I did the same for a while, but recognizes how much free damage the dash gives, jump attack without pogo, pogo, tools, silk... there's a ton of options and a lot of these bosses legit stand in positions waiting to get abused by a ton of this shit.

The game is frustrating, but I actually think it was a filter for people who tend to auto-pilot or thought the movement would be like HK.

Outside of that, the only negs I have are runbacks and the two damage on contact and traps which is just bizarre. the hitbox on some flowers are super awkward.

>>720190061
>le fun le poor """""""people"""""""""

>>720190031
I'm willing to bet that if an update comes out that does nothign else but create a spawn point closer to a boss or set piece.
stupid normies who don't understand game design will start saying the game is "less hard" when the difficulty hasn't changed at all.

also don't use Vergil DMC5 doesn't have padding.

>>720188364
I usually just pogo them twice then hit R1. Use the tools at your disposal ffs.

>>720190004
What's the point of dying if there is no punishment for it? Challenge necessitates SOME level of lost content (even if that's just starting over from the beginning of the boss)

i'm almost 40 i'm zooming through this and my 9 year old is doing the pogo parkour sections with ease. you're not worse than a 9 year old are you /v/?

>>720189387
That's hollow knight for you. The challenge is trying to stay awake.

>>720190186
the punishment is you lose your progress on the boss fight and bring great shame to your family.

>>720188472
Lmao yup. Those threads on Reddit actually made me enjoy and appreciate the game even more.

>>720190138
Yeah. The movement and combat tools you unlock are good. You can heal while in the air too.
>42% beat widow
Look at this bossfight. The second phase seems ridiculous only at first glance.

>>720190107
There's a race side quest and it was genuinely one of the only enjoyable things in the entire game.

>>720189707
>1 tool
Into the trash it goes

>>720189816
The price isn't even the worst part of that.

Redditknight: redditsong

>>720189456
I unironically got lost a lot more in Nine Sols

I tried Hollow Knight for the first time. Beat the first few bosses first try so far but I think I don't enjoy Metroidvania exploration. It's even more annoying when you accidentally do a free fall or you're rushing and take damage and lose all your money. I don't mind dying, but I dislike having to grind back my geo because I died trying to explore a dead end. It just makes me want to pull up a map and not waste my time.

>watch streamer play the game
>he's going through wormways
>keeps faceplanting into the worms and taking damage and complaining because he refuses to be patient
these are the people complaining about difficulty

>>720190449
>but I dislike having to grind back my geo because I died trying to explore a dead end
You can just go get it all back by going to where you died and killing your shade

>>720178915 (OP)
Why do the chinese hate the game?

>>720190493
If you die again you lose it all

>>720190474
This was me with the crushers in Crystal Peak in the original game

>>720190508
translate bad

>>720190474
I like how the reward you get from this path is counter to those small rushing bugniggers.

>>720190508
The story isn't based on the four classic chinese novels.
Any story that isn't a reskin of either Journey to the West or Romance of the Three Kingdoms makes Chinese become EXTREMELY upset and start pissing and shitting themselves in confused anger

Did I fuck up anything by starting act 2? like, any missable content?

>>720190753
>he entered act 2
oh no no no
nobody tell him bros
LMAO

>>720185114
They have to have lied. Skills built playing HK don't transfer over 1 to 1 but it's close enough that adapting took minimal effort.

>>720190753
Bro...

>>720183814
>RNG elements in boss battles to make it more difficult is not
Not in the game. Everything is well telegraphed.
>Doing runbacks to get back to a difficult boss you will likely die to again is not.
The only long runback I've ever experienced so far was the sand blowing zone near the end of act 1.
>Bosses doing damage because your character was a pixel next to their body while they are stunned is not.
Git Gud, faggot
>Going such a large amount of time with little to no progression in the beginning
Literally doesn't exist. You can go anywhere in act 1 and get whatever you like. There has been exactly zero bottlenecks and I hear act 2 opens up even more.

Try again, whiner.

Is Wanderer crest easy mode?

>>720178915 (OP)
I can't tell if it's tougher than HK1 or if it's just my recency bias talking.

>>720185114
I remember first game wasn't EZ clap either.

>>720190898
No. That's Reaper.
t. Reaper player

>>720190898
No, all of the crests are good for different things.
For example, if you're doing a platforming section that involves pogoing then reaper is easy mode.

>>720190898
No.

>>720183814
>muh runbacks
When did people start shitting their pants over running back to bosses anyway?

When does the game become hard? I'm just past the haunted bell (I think thats what it's called?) area. Game doesn't seem that hard to me. The hardest part is keeping track of where you are because everything looks the same.

>>720190897
>Everything is well telegraphed
bro 60 fps animations are well telegraphed
30 to 25 fps animations can be well telegraphed

the shitty jank 10 fps animations in HK are not well telegraphed at all. They have abysmal pacing, a poorly communicated line of action and absolutely no flow.

thats what people get for playing metroidvanias, the most garbage genre of all

>>720190508
>Japan
>mixed
>Korea
>mostly positive
Why don't bug people like bug game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts

God I love the Choral Chambers track.

>>720191135
>uhh... uhh... 60fps, yeah! That sounds technical enough to cope with!
boo hoo
there has never been a single moment where I have felt a particular move has not been well telegraphed.

You are just shit at the game, dude.

>>720179082
There is literally nothing wrong with letting people adjust difficulty to how they like

>>720191151
The game doesn't have any loli

>>720191148
but SS breaks a lot of good design blueprints and is not a good metroidvania.

>>720191135
>the shitty jank 10 fps animations in HK are not well telegraphed at all.
>DMC shitter
LMAO

>>720191328
healing spam shitter calling others shitters.

>>720191135
this is a self report lol. get some glasses nigga

Reminder that if you don't beat Silksong before it inevitably gets nerfed, YOU didn't actually beat it, and I WILL be checking the dates on achievements.

>>720191225
I can dodge them too. because bosses have very few moves and we know what they are. That doesn't make them good animations.

>>720178915 (OP)
i only tried hollow knight years ago. it's less about the difficulty and more about the tedium that is metroidvania exploration
i never complain about dying to a hard boss but i will seethe when i feel like the game is trying to waste my time redoing shit.

>>720191401
are you going to try to tell me SS animations are smooth?
they're lazy low FPS garbage.

There are genuinely baffling decisions in the game. Like the rewards for the delivery missions. One gives you 80 rosaries and the other harder one gives you 125, but the harder one makes you pay 30 rosaries to access the quest delivery npc, so in actuality you only get 95.
What the fuck. That's an insignificant amount of rosaries for act 2 as well. Just retarded.

I'm playing it in a chill way and at 10 hours in I've yet to see anything particularly difficult, despite having even ventured in areas that clearly wanted me to have more upgrades.
Maybe it'll get much worse later on, but some anons insist that the game is overtuned right from the get-go and I don't see it, just like I don't see where the idea that "everything does 2 masks of damage from the start" comes from

>>720190508
>barely any Jap reviews
So Japanese people are the only people smart enough to finish a game before giving it a review.

>>720189290
>there are other monumentally harder games where I've spent like 50 attempts on boss fights.
This is definitely true, and I've played games like that, I'm just curious: what games are you thinking of?

>>720178915 (OP)
i dinn get filtereed im on blacvk lace in act 3
ubut the kklled me 5 times and now im going to sleep to beet her etomorrow

I legitimately, sincerely could NOT care less about this game. I never even bothered finishing Hollow Knight. I will quite literally NEVER play Silksong.

Fuck off with your shilling of it.

>>720190898
No, tools are broken and being limited to 1 slot makes Wanderer an awkward fit. Reaper and Architect are probably the best general playstyle kits along with expanded Hunter if you're good. Witch can be powerful but suffers from weaker healing since most dangerous bosses aren't likely to just sit there for the full 3 pips of damage

Silksong needs its own version of mimic tear.

>>720191587
>Nightreign release
>NO CRUTCHES
>shitters are dying left and right to the normal ER mobs
>all of them have 1000+ hours in ER

>>720191520
sounds like some sleep is what you need, yeah

>>720179027
What's with nips using contemporary imperial eras? I never saw that until the last few years but now I see it constantly.

>beat the game in less than 30 hours
Scam game, at least I had fun.

all hope left my soul when I realized what the courier's rasher delivery entailed. are there are any real shortcuts or am I just gonna have to do it a like a man?

>check other silksong threads
>anons complain about normal mobs being threatening at any stage of the game
How low can /vee/ fall

>>720179007
as far as Ive seen only beastfly can summon ads

i think people complaining about boss summons don't know there are tools that can pierce through multiple enemies. the aoe attack helps too

>>720186096
Literally all attuned bosses do

>still in act 1 after 16 hours
Kino game

>>720190105
I mean the ones coming from above, that can't be used to jump off of. Those enemies seem to serve no purpose other than to mess with the pacing, same thing with the currency system

My wife fucks another bug men...

>>720186150
LOL ok

>>720191513
I think i died more than 100 times trying to beat challenge IX in Tiny Thor.
There where a few cuphead bosses that killed me so many times I quite the game (I would have kept playing but something about the sound and impact of the gunshots does not give me adequate dopamine)
I got stuck on a Godhand challenge room for days.
KH2 critical Xigbar fight with no healing kept killing me over and over again until I was yelling slurs.
Super meat boy end game levels are a given but I played that years ago.

>>720192076
>poison build

YOU DID NOT BEAT THE GAME

>>720191812
The wisp thicket route is pretty forgiving, i took multiple hits and still got there
should be basically free if you pre-clear and wear your speed boots

>>720181913
Let me just add some text to pins, so I can easily reference, oh, this is a quest NPC, this needs a key, etc. I shouldn't have to hand write a journal (just like I did in Hollow Knight) since the pin system is so shitty.
That Prince of Persia metroidvania that came out recently had a feature every fucking game in this genre needs to copy, which was an in-game screenshotting feature, that if you used judiciously at places you got stuck, you'd know exactly when to return to them when you got a new item.

>>720192078
Sounds good.

Is there a way to cheese the delivery quest? I really don't feel like going around half the map. Bench warp doesn't work I think, as soon as you pick up the item it assigns you a bench in belhart.

They deserve the negative reviews desu

>>720192228
The one thing that game got right.

>>720192283
There's a bench close to where your cocoon is.

>>720192262
there's a teleport mod.

>>720192329
>>720192283
close to left

>>720186913
>the attack range is kinda trash
You can get a longnail blue tool in act 2.

>>720192202
I don't even know what the wisp thicket is, but I guess I'll be looking for it. and pre-clearing the route is a pretty good idea. thanks

>>720192329
The fact that there's a fake bench, and the real one is so hidden makes the negative reviews doubly deserved

>>720192351
if the devs were truly based they'd track this and punish the player for doing it like old roguelikes did with savescumming

I too get annoyed at this game sometimes but I have to respect the devs for making this hardcore. They had to have known that band wagoning normies would be crying big time after the game got hyped this much

I don't think this game is difficult as in skill , I think its difficult as in its fucking moronic with the player time , specially with runback , last judge runback is cancer , some arena runback are fucking obnoxious , thank god I only beat last judge in 5 attempts I wouldve pull my hair out if its take any more.
Also shards just shouldnt fucking exist , the only time you spend alot of shard is on a boss/quest and when you hit 0 because you stuck on one boss, tough fucking luck better grind more.
90% of the quests is fetch quests with maybe 5 unique ones.
the only skill/mechanic thing I hate is for some rmost area have 1 enemy that is just horridly design to fuck you up while the others being comically easy to deal with.
TLDR: the game isn't hard skill base wise it's hard because theres little to no QoL or respect for the player's time.

>>720192425
if the devs were really based they'd let you warp between benches.
bunch of faggots with their valueless timewasting padding.

>>720192503
I am actually genuinely surprised they made it this fucking hard.

>>720192567
>hard.
>tedious
learn the difference.

>>720192645
Nah it's hard. I play a lot of 2d sloppa and in terms of high profile releases, Silksong is on the tippy top.

Like the only thing harder than it is Rabi-Ribi and La Mulana if you're a brainlet. Possibly Aeterna Noctis but only platforming-wise. I'd say Nine Sols too but now that I look back on it, Silksong has way wider range of things that fuck your shit up outside of just needing to parry.

Just beat it on a pirated version. Bought it on steam and now I will do it all over again.

>>720189693
>Last Judge
Hes like the first actually somewhat difficult boss though

>>720192735
Did you rike it? How was Act 3?

How do you use the Snitch Pick? I equipped it but I don't know how to trigger it

>This game is tediously padding
>Muh muh gitgud
Why are normies like this?

Hornet used goods

>Faxanadu
>Zelda 2
>other NES titles
Reminder that these are the main inspirations for Silksong.

The aussies just made their dream game and it's the modern equivalent of a CBT NES game.

>>720192765
Act 3 was great, last boss kinda fucked with me but I ended up being underwhelmed cause I expected it to be a prelude to the ACTUAL last boss which never actually came.

>>720192735
>64 hours
>86%
wtf nigger im at 34hr 89% did you leave the game open overnight or something?

>>720192735
do you think it is possible to get clawline (hook needle) before getting to act 2?

i think im the only retard who wiped 20 times on bilehavens fuckfest encounter and did the run back everytime from the station

only learned about the secret bench after

>>720192729
I actually dropped Nine Sols pretty recently because the parry mechanic was annoying me. You could say I was filtered but I'm enjoying the difficulty in Silksong

The arena with the two fat cunts is filtering me more than any boss in the game so far. This is total shit

>>720190534
But why would you die again before retrieval? You already got there once.

Bros, I don't think I'm going to make it. The Last Judge is too much for me...

>Pay for a bench in maggot-water area
>Doesn't fucking work
>Lose 600 beads because there's nothing within 5 miles of it
That was the only time I've gotten upset at the game so far

>>720178979
It is harder than Hollow Knight and lets you fuck yourself over really easily.
For example, one of the big purchases that you get early on is an extremely expensive key that either can unlock a pretty useful and thematically fun upgrade that gives you the first game's moveset, or it can unlock a door to a hellzone that you will die a dozen times on and not even be able to complete most likely. Which opens up a new area you won't be able to complete, either. Because you probably lack the movement upgrade.

There's no way of knowing which of these you should gamble that money on ahead of time.
Hallow Knight had some trolls like this, but rarely had that type of disparity.

>>720180572
Using anything other than hunters is nerfing yourself

>>720186591
no offense but how the fuck do people find this combat fun? it's just spacing and swinging the same basic attack over and over
like only footsies in a fighting game but dumbed down

happy for you guys that got the game you've been yapping about forever but wtf
I think I'm just done with metroidvanias in general. I'm burnt out and none of this looks enjoyable now. maybe if this game came out 15 years ago I'd be more enthused

>>720190449
To be fair the issue you have with dying is because a bunch of metroidvanias decided to ape dark souls for no reason

>>720193130
>You can fix it
>There's an unmarked breakable wall near the ceiling on the left
>Have to do a gay pogo course to get it

>>720193138
>or it can unlock a door to a hellzone that you will die a dozen times on and not even be able to complete most likely. Which opens up a new area you won't be able to complete, either. Because you probably lack the movement upgrade.
This is objectively the best route though because it lets you get to Bellhart early, beat Widow, and get the first nail upgrade.

>>720190449
>Metroidvania exploration
it definitely had more charm when I was a child without a job and more free time to spare. i'm too picky now and anything that deliberately wastes my time in an obvious way grates me

>>720193278
You're on 4chan, you have time

>pay for/find a bench
>doesn't get the bench
>repeat this 3 times
peak game design here guys , we intentionally pisses the player off and make them walkback a few hundred more time!

>>720193057
>The arena with the two fat cunts
There are two arenas that fit this description, do you mean the citadel one or the tower rush one?

I hope the devs won't fall for the reddit crying.

The difficulty is absolutely perfect. Thanks god it's harder than HK, you're supposed to have played HK first, you know the physics of the game already.

>>720193138
Going the hell route first was fun as fuck though and I was happy to see so mucj behind the door, I didnt turn around from it until I had already entered the citadel

Any big hitbox bosses that do contact damage and move around like a tweaking crackhead is a dogshit design and theres MULTIPLE in silksong.

>>720193213
You'd have to be a psychopath to even want to do that tbqhfamalam
Getting from Far Fields to Bellhart really isn't any quicker than going the normal way.

>>720180150
You get to it from the bellway below it.

>>720193209
Feels good being a thorough explorer chad and finding that.

I want to know the personal details of the faggot who designed the conductor's melody arena. Genuinely unacceptable horrific design.
Pretty much have to beat the last wave with cheese or some faggot helpers. And yes, all tools and traps are cheese. It's akin to relying on the summon bell in elden ring.
Defendertrannies, what's your take?

>>720193423
Bosses aren't even that hard , it's the dogshit runback and padding.

>>720193353
hold the space bar for 5 minutes for me. you've got time
oh you didn't want to spend your free time that way?

now pester some other poor soul with your undercooked opinions

>>720178979
the younger brother of my friend used to always complain about difficulty and give up quickly in Hollow Knight, but he's actually hanging in there for Silk Song like a real trooper. Proud of that lil zoom

>>720193482
>runback
Seriously what were they thinking with shit like the judge and groals runback

>>720193473
it's just 3 guys, not that hard to know

>>720193526
>Check recording
>28 minutes is running back 10 minutes is actually fighting Last judge attempts
Nigger

>>720186591
>still gets hit for 2 and have to heal midfight using the heal upgrade
>probably did less damage than one strike of my reaper attack

>>720193526
Judge runback is fine, I've done it enough times that it runs smooth and swift for me... I've become one with it...

>>720191973
It's over... Her warranty has expired...

>>720193423
Bosses are mostly quite easy, especially with proper tools. It's the arenas with 50 retards on your screen that rely on you getting good RNG that piss me off. Tell me how that's the fun type of difficult

>>720191726
It's a very common way to refer to a time period. Some use the calendar years, but many prefer to use the emperor eras. It's like saying "that is so 2000" or something

>>720191864
>The bosses on the second to hardest difficulty in the final DLC.
Nice argument.
Even then the list is pretty small:
>Collector
>Broken Vessel + Lost Kin
>Flukemarm (has no other attacks and does not move)
>Vengefly King + Winged Nosk
>Soul Warrior
>Zote
Including Uumuu that's 9 of 46

>>720193675
>good RNG

That's maybe like 10-20% of success. You having good movement, tool usage and positioning is much more important

>throw poisoned tacks on the ground
>melts all the small shitters almost instantly
>poisoned boomerang on flying shits
>pogo big guys

>>720178996
Chads, keeping the women in the back

>>720181913
Tools are the only critique I agree with.
Having to keep killing mobs to keep up my ammo for my gear is annoying. I really don't see any gain in having two types of currency to maintain when most gear already has limited ammo per-rest anyhow.
If I have only 12 daggers or 6 spikes per bench, why also make me pay a constant tax for using them on top of that?

But I like the combo of the world being really big and the enemies being very dangerous. You really feel like you're in a hostile environment and every journey has to be well planned out.
I think they struck up a good balance at least for adventuring in the overworld where it is never really trivial to head out from a safezone. Even areas you've cleared a few times can take a couple hearts off you if you're not playing well.
It is genuinely a stressful and threatening experience at times. That is hard to get out of non-horror games a lot of the time.

>>720193526
I just did the Judge runback as I assume it's one of the worst.

It takes 45s.

People are crying about 45s runbacks, for a boss that you will kill in perhaps 10 tries.

>>720192760
That pogoing off the spin is a sick move.

>>720185858
people have somehow forgotten that hard games don't have to be for everyone ever just because Dark Souls made it achievable via learning to time pressing 1 button, the amount of complaints you see starting with "I beat every Fromsouls game and -" is truly astonishing

>>720179146
>challenge leads to a one time pick up of a resource you can lose
It's lame, I'd rather it was the bead chains than loose ones.

runback so shit people overlooks the dogshit quest system of "getting x shard" and "get X amount of Y" while only handful of quest being unique

The only bad runback in the game is Groal even if you unlock the bench.

I like how the moment I get reaper most enemies become trivialized , it baffle me how 45 degree pogo is a fucking good idea for a default moveset,oh and who the FUCK design beast crest anyways genuinely dogshit moveset.

holy shit I wanna see a game journo do this gauntlet

they will never get to it, but still.

>>720193907
Yo what is this? Act 3 stuff?

>>720184703
>never touched hollow knight
>Was always a massive hater
Of course
Most of the anti HK shitposters are probably exactly like you

>>720193880
I feel like beast crest is the "dogshit" crest until someone start to build it right and it suddently becomes the god tier crest.

I think this is the new standard for "metroidvania" or megaman type games. the movement is great, but it's often very hard and will filter people who dont use their brain and pick their spots.

>>720193962
>>720193880
Beast is the facetank crest. It's not good early but once you get the right combos for it, the crest just becomes completely nonsensical.

>>720182034
I haven't played Celeste, but DS1 lets you incrementally get stronger even as you lose.
So long as you can recover your Souls, you can slowly gather upgrade materials and levels to eventually power through any humps in difficulty as you also learn to git gud.
Silksong really doesn't make the player much more powerful than where they started for a very long time. Instead, you get access to more tools and movement options that you have to figure out how to make best use of, over a straight forward upgrade. There is only the git gud part.

>>720193946
you get an ability later that lets you fly. this is at the very end of a challenging platforming gauntlet with rising lava and spikes.

think kaizo mario but hollow knight.

>>720178979
It's a bit harder and slightly more bullshit.

>>720193962
for beast crest to be good you have to somehow get good enough to not be hit because being hit disable beast buff , but if you are good enough to not be hit while aggroing the shit out of the enemy then whats the fucking point.

>>720185858
>People who stop playing a game because they get frustrated over the difficulty are pussies
I actually commend people who can actually give up when frustrated. I don't think I'm physically capable of giving up due to sheer rage and seethe over not being able to overcome a difficult boss. I would rather not sleep and eat to beat the boss than to take a break on another day.
And I don't think its a thing to brag about, its just retarded addictive personality and emotional immaturity. Beating games through spite and rage are dogshit ways to spend your time imo

>>720193965
*in terms of challenge, I mean. I still think SOTN is the best ever, or Super Metroid.

Who playtested this garbage

>>720194003
>Think Kaizo Mario but Hollow Knight
Ah another overrated Path of Pain
I'll just imagine World 2 of Super Meat Boy

>>720182034
>>720193996
probably closer to sekiro, except sekiro is actually satisfying to play

>>720193356
Citadel. Knowing that there's a second one had just crushed my spirit further

>>720178915 (OP)
So about the wormway alchemist quest if I suck the juice from those buds will it kill the flower? I played music for it and saw it needed light and a friend told me there's an item or something later in act 2 that might fit what it wants

>>720194035
I beat this with the summon tool+poison+caltrops for the big lads at the end

>>720182034
most of the trannies who praise celeste either
1. never actually played it
2. played the A sides and never touched the rest of the game

>>720194035
ah, I know exactly which fight that is, the bullshit with 2 big bosses and a tiny room.

grab the top left wall and spam r2 (sprint keeps you clinged on the wall), ONLY down pogo with reaper style after someone jumps and doesnt do the aoe.

tedious but it works and is mostly safe. on the floor is pure RNG hell.

>>720193907
I convinced my nephew to give Hollow Knight a shot but he changed his mind after he watched me play this part, idk if it recency bias but I'd almost rather play Path of Pain than get this mask shard again
I may be mistaking where this is though

Never played the first one, never gonna play this one either. Both are inorganically popular. The moment I see shilling, it makes me not want to even try a game.

>>720191812
I can't even do that, because how do you get back from Act 1 to Act 2 without fast travel? I can get up to the Grand Gate and then what?

>>720194085
no

>>720194186
Do you really think Team Cherry pays us to shill it here? I do it for free

>>720194139
*and after the pogo, go back to the wall with a dash.

and if you need to heal, same spot or jump high in the corner and heal.

>>720183849
I do think silk abilities could be rebalanced to give you more uses.
The strong spear you get early on really doesn't feel that useful because it costs 1/2 your heal to do kinda mediocre damage, when in most boss fights you're scrambling for as many heals as possible.
If you got 4 spears per full silk bar from the beginning of the game, at least then you'd have a reason to want to use the ability.

I filtered this game by ignoring trans-slop

>>720178979
Lol no one actually played hollow knight the game was painfully average that overstayed it's welcome

So it was always crazy how silksong got hyped up like it did

>>720194221
He's just a tranny poisoning the well, I noticed his kind never complains about the new ubisoft or EA release

>witch crest is S-tier
how? No yellow slots ever

>>720194218
can you bring light to the flower?

>>720194273
Yellow tools are a meme.

>>720194064
I used flea brew and plasmium to facetank damage rush one of the big guys dead instantly for that

>>720194291
aint no way im sacrificing no yellow tools dawg

>>720194035
This wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be after my first death to it, it seemed utterly ridiculous on first glance, but using all of the abilities to their fullest, clawline is particularly useful on the last two

>>720181397
I agree, it was. I think people are just mis-remembering how often they died in Hollow Knight. It was basically just as hard as Silksong is.

>>720178979
It's actually easier by far

This 2 damage is getting out of hand. I can understand something like Fourth Chorus, it's a giant fuck-off robot. I can understand Last Judge, it's the final boss of act 1. This is just some fucking guy.

>>720194291
>faster dash
>compass
>bead attractor
I'm not even touching the game if I can't have these

>>720194349
He's gay the second damage is AIDS touch

>>720184657
You're basically supposed to do giant loops around the map where you clear most of a region, then teleport back home to start messing with the shops after you saved up hundreds of $.
They're not meant to be purchased early. The only vendor that you'd really going to buy from as you meet them is the map girl. But she even goes to the home base automatically for the reason above.

>>720186403
The hard difficulty is the original intended difficulty of Afterimage. Devs added an easy mode in a patch and labeled it Standard. Standard is extremely easy. The only way to get some challenge is to go to high level areas. I suggest to switch and see. You can switch back any time anyway.

>>720194035
You're intended to have an NPC helping you there.

>>720194408
>You're basically supposed to do giant loops around the map where you clear most of a region
who is going to do that instead of just braindead farming in greymoor for 10 minutes

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/595159519774039622/

AIIIIIIEEEEEEEE THEY'RE NERFING THE GAME

SAVE YOUR COPY RIGHT NOW TO HAVE A PRISTINE RELEASE UNNERFED SILKSONG

>you can use the scuttlebrace to run up walls
WHAT.

>>720192760
Beat it yesterday and have to say that it was probably my favourite boss fight up to that point.
16h in btw.

>>720194349
enemies doing 2 damage is the bare minimum given how OP the heal is
it's faster than in the first game, and you can do it while airborne. 2 damage in SS is absolutely not equivalent to 2 damage in HK

>>720194437
Im done with act 3 and not 1 NPC ever helped me with any rushes/bosses how are you supposed to find these fuckers

>>720194325
I'll give that a shot. Just spamming regular attacks then?

>>720191407
Jokes on you, I pirated it and WILL not update!

>>720194465
>Fixed situation where players could remain cloakless after Slab escape sequence
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>720194465
god damn it
when will devs realize crying redditors are never the main audience and basically don't even play games?

>>720194465
>already pirated the game and saved the file
fuck i was going to buy the game after but now im just gonna play the pirated one

>>720194556
Yeah, I had 8 hearts at the time but survived with enough health for 2 hits left so it should work as long as you have 6 or more

>>720194495
In a vacuum, maybe. It practice, no.

>>720194454
Depending on your route, you might not see Greymoor until you're >12 hours into the game.
It probably takes a nooby player 2 hours per region or so.

>>720194578
>>720194607
Read the patch notes its just bug fixes and minor adjustments

>>720194221
Shilling doesn't have to be paid. In fact it most often isn't. It just needs to be disingenuous to qualify as shilling and many of the people praising this game are disingenuous, as evident by the flood of positive reviews that came flooding in mere MINUTES after the game was released. In other words, people were spamming positive reviews before they even played the damn thing.

>>720194658
THEY NERFED SISTER SPLINTER AND MOORWING
THEY ADDED MORE ROSARIES
THEY MADE BENCHES AND SHIT CHEAPER

YOU

DID

NOT

BEAT

THE

GAME

>>720194617
Thanks anon. Next time I make it through those flying projectile cunts I'll give it a shot

>>720185858
Agree on the mentals but maybe it doesn't have to take 3 hours if you take a 30 minute break after the first one. I guarantee you that youll do better that way

>>720194465
>snitch pick was actually broken

>>720194703
>sister splinter and moorwing
Oh your right I missed that
Niggers

I'm a mostly a visual novel player and the game is fine
i wonder if people are drinking too much basedmilk/micro plastics and getting retarded

>>720194703
Moorwing is hard? he just got stuck on part of the map and get hit over and over again.

>>720188438
I do think having to buy your save points is kinda cruel.
I know usually there's some mobs that drop rosaries nearby somewhere, but even still that is just another kick in the nuts.

>>720194630
Not sure what you mean really. SS is not harder than HK. In fact the lategame is easier.

>>720194703
>SISTER SPLINTER AND MOORWING
These are the 2 bosses I barely had any issues with and it's the nigger mob gauntlets that are way harder

>>720194749
>not intended
>>was broken
wait was it too much? I might get this asap and farm something

>>720194849
- Fixed Snitch Pick not giving rosaries and shell shards as intended.

>>720194636
then they have the one in moss home where its slightly less farm but pretty early game. Either way its braindead run into pilgrims farm. And yes I don't like it but its better than what was previously mentioned about doing laps around your current map (especially in Underworks, cause good luck finding a SINGLE mob that is not homeless)

>>720194465
Moorwing is fair, that thing's awful.
Sister Splinter I don't like.
The cost changes ain't shit.

>>720194703
Cry about it.

>>720194820
>SS is not harder than HK.
You're completely full of shit.

>>720194679
shilling requires quid pro quo, even dishonest positive reviewers don't get anything out of it

>>720190105
Those bellhead bastards throwing fireballs at you, really aren't useful pogo material when they're fluttering around outside your jumping range making shit really annoying.

>>720194465
I don't mind most things like rosaries being easier but nerfing bosses is going too far

>>720194820
>In fact the lategame is easier.
descending dark and shade dash make HK a meme late game

>>720194960
Dunno, most people who completed the game by now seem to share my experience, most seem to agree the bosses become trivial and everything is easy once you get enough nail upgrades

>>720190508
The translator for the game basically rewrote it, very poorly.

>>720194885
sorry my bad, but like i wanna know, was it too much of rosaries drop or too little?

>>720195030
Now fix the runback faggot

What do I do here

>>720194703
WTF I beat Sister Splinter and Moorwing so others should have no trouble either

>>720195030
that one redditor's wife will be elated!

>>720195182
Come back later way later

>>720195186
Only problem I had is the frequency of SS's summon sometimes the bitch would summon two back to back , moorwing is just annoying because it have too much health for an early boss.

Sister Splinter was completely fine for me, but I did think Moorwing was a bit too much on the hard side for how early it was.

>>720195232
if i do the alchemist quest it won't mess up whatever i can do here right?

>>720195030
>Slight difficulty reduction in early game bosses Moorwing and Sister Splinter
>Reduction in damage from Sandcarvers
>Slight reduction in mid-game Bellway and Bell Bench prices
>Slight increase in rosary rewards from relics and psalm cylinders
>Increase in rosary rewards for courier deliveries
>Various additional fixes and "tweaks"
It's over. Reddit has ruined another game.

>>720192891
in my defense anon most of my time playing was spent multitasking while working

Also I'm bad

You didn't beat the game.

>>720195291
*do here later

>>720195182
You keep going up.

>>720193652
>eating shit is fine
>i've done it 1000 time now
>i've gotten really good at it.
that doesn't make it fine.
think of all the time the game has wasted.

>>720195359
pls answer >>720195291

>>720195026
Anyone that has gotten to the end of Silksong right now is probably someone who has over 100 hours in Hollow Knight and would breeze through anything less than a Kaizo mod of the series.

>>720195384
If you don't get the joke you don't get the joke lol
I was agreeing with you, mouthbreather

>>720195306
what's wrong with these it's good QOL
courier deliveries are actual scam I can get 500 rosaries in minutes at that state.

>>720195441
that anon wasn't me anon.

>>720195291
It wont

>>720195057
It did the opposite of what it was supposed to

>>720178915 (OP)
YES.
Absolutely fucking yes.
Anyone who says otherwise CAN GET FUCKED!
Victory Lap theme song: https://youtu.be/sL8v8SnbskA

>>720195442
>what's wrong with reducing the overall difficulty?
For everyone? A lot. More than that though it signals Reddit that they have a foot in the door to campaign for more and more nerfs if only they complain loudly enough.

>>720194703
>Nerfing 2 of the easiest bosses
Why

>>720195484
cool, thank you, I was frozen on whether this was some kind of multiple endings type of side quest where i could do the alchemist guys quest but the flower dies or come back later and nurse it ill still come back later of course

>>720188881
What a waste of a Michelle Marsh image.

>>720195442
Because if casual keep bitching you'll end up with something that's easier than HK

>>720195758
>>720195306
Just wait for reddit to reach the end of act 2 and 3

>>720194336
>It was basically just as hard as Silksong is
kek delusional faggot
i mean just going off of the health alone in original
>already at 8 masks 15 hours in
>double damage is exceptionally rare
you can pretty much facetank everything like a retard you are
good luck with that in Silksong

>>720195978
>you can pretty much facetank everything

TC saw so many noobies just doing this and decided to put a stop to it in the sequel with the 2 mask damage. HK was piss easy for 95% of the game

>>720195978
don't worry, they'll make it as piss easy as HK so casuals can pretend they beat a hard game

>>720194617
I ended up beating them by spamming poison spears and bombs and praying

>>720193907
Is this the part where you fight bunch of niggers at the bottom of fire pit and then do Ori style escape?

I HATE FLEA JUGGLING

>>720187907
It's not exploration if it doesn't lead to anything. It'd be like getting lost in one of those pencil mazes and hitting a dead end.