Thread 720212798

Bilewater is kicking my ass, should I just come back later?

>>720212798 (OP)
HOW DO I CLEAR THE FLEA JUGGLE MINIGAME GOD

What do the actual game-players make of the nerfs?

mount fay was a meme, i hate you retards.
even the cogworks section where you had to time jumps was more challenging

>he didn’t beat the game before the patch

KWAB

>>720212927
Honestly fuck moorwing, i do not mind that being nerfed

>>720212927
i'm gonna be done with this game before the patch releases so idc

>>720212927
irrelevant
Where is the last pouch upgrade? Also missing 1 mask shard for 9 masks

Anyone know of a better farm spot
This works out to like 3200+ p/h

>>720212986
grats, you realized you have to use harpoon instead of pogo and actually manage your silk with float
most people cant do such basic thing

Fastest in Pharloom wish says go to the farthest feild in far fields but hes not there?

>>720212927
>all easy shit that I already got past
Seems performative since anyone still stuck on Moorwing is a giga casual.

I figured out why so many retards want to fuck Hornet.
She's basically Saber.

>>720212917
juggle them, i used wanderer crest

>>720213037
wow nice farm spot, but there's nothing to spend currency on at this point in the game

>>720213037
nah this is the best
its removed in a3

>>720212927
It's alright. Sandcarvers nerf will probably make people stop complaining about the last judge runback.
Good bugfixes though, I encountered most of those lol.

>>720212798 (OP)
It's a pretty optional area, you can totally explore elsewhere.

>>720212905
SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER

>>720212927
As somebody who is about to clear the game...
Pretty good balance fixes. Money is very scarce in midgame, which is where it arguably matters the most. Ideally I'd also like some kind of money buff for endgame, since I just had to spend a while farming money for last few tools, but oh well. That's just for completionists.
The damage nerfs to those two bosses is also fine. I imagine they are going to change Sister Splinter to only deal 1 contact damage, and make Moorwings projectiles and contact damage also be 1.

>keep running pounded by Last Judge over and over
>keep getting frustrated
>keep seeing Sherma sleeping peacefully when I get warped back to the bench
>keep hearing her cute chant in my head

>keep trying

>>720213078
its in a secret part of far fields you can only get to with the super jump from another zone. its something you saw early + its one of the doodles on the world map

>>720213056
>manage silk
i just spammed the harpoon without a second thought because it always regens to 2 with weavelight which i've had equipped since forever. maybe thats the reason the entire place felt too easy

>>720213056
If you have that regen amulet thing you get 2 perma bars instead of the one. No management necessary.

>>720212986
cogwork is way easier even without double jump
mount fay you drop into the lake once and you have to redo it again

>>720213171
>her

>>720213195
its easy regardless sometimes you just need to wait like 0.5s to get to the peak of your jump but mount fay was not that bad at all especially if you did stuff like path of pain in hk1

>>720213121
idk about you anon but i didnt buy shit from almost any vendor

>>720213078
Yeah, like the other Anon said, it is not the Weaver den, but area higher up.

thanks to a warning from another anon, i fixed the broken tool on mount fay and unlocked THE GUN.

>there's a path from wisp thicket to underworks
Good thing I haven't done the oil mission yet

>equip reaper's crest
>kill him in one go
Huh. Well then.

>>720212927
>>720213086
personally i think it'd be a win if more casuals got to experience act 3 before they decided to drop the game before they realized they were getting good because a lot of the early game is admittedly pretty bullshit in design, feeling like artificial difficulty instead of genuinely challenging. i don't like the idea of nerfing bosses (except maybe beastfly because fuck that nigger) but what does double damage feels completely arbitrary a lot of the time, like a stunned boss shouldn't be doing 2 masks of contact damage.

>>720213276
i bought literally everything and it can't amount to more than 3k rosaries

What IS greyroot?
Is it cordyceps?

>>720213312
ALSO once you get to mount fay, you can complete it as long as you have the grappling hook. i ignored it for way too long thinking i needed an ice resistance tool.

how do you get walled by an optional boss?

>>720213037
Killing all the big guys along the Cog Dancer path gives 250 and no way that takes more than 5 minutes so it should be more in an hour, not as braindead to kill though

Did he die?

>>720213363
why would you be taking contact damage from a stunned boss and then complaining? the healing is overwhelmingly abundant, literally in one stun you can get a full amount of silk back for a heal, the game is really not that hard. when you're exploring basically you can heal after every hit. there's a few annoying ass areas like bilewater etc but i mean, it is what it is, there's always gay nigger swamp areas. if everything was just holding right killing noob enemies it would be boring

>>720213363
2 masks of contact damage and the devs refusing to put benches close to almost all bosses is really the only thing I agree on with people who are upset about the difficulty

>>720213037
for me it's the long hallways next to songclave (where you fight the gay clankers) because those are not so tough after you learn their pattern and they drop quite a bit of money, with a bench really close by to respawn them. i farmed 800 to buy a charm there in like 3 minutes.

>>720213270
My mistake, the voice threw me off

>>720213363
Anyone having trouble with sister and moorwing is not getting to act 3.

I'm going to try to spam the first silk art next boss fight and abandon healing.
I almost haven't used silk arts the entire game.

>>720213387
You can't have found every vendor or didn't unlock their new stock, First Shrine and Thief guy together would come to more than that and that's before the house upgrades (which are mostly useless at least)

>>720212927
These are all fine. If these were like, late game nerfs i'd be more concerned, but given how unforgiving the beginning of the game can be and how scarce money is, i'd say these are reasonable changes.

>>720213561
You heal for 3 hearts.
In hollow knight enemies did 2 hearts of damage and you only healed for 1 at a time.
I don't get this complaint at all.

>>720213357
>Long range
>Good pogo
>Healing with an install that generates silk for more healing
>Downside (attack speed) doesn't matter that much
Reaper seems to be the flat out best/safest crest to use in the game

>>720213493
>why would you be taking contact damage from a stunned boss and then complaining?
i fucking hate contact damage with a burning passion, but i don't complain if the game clearly has it and i just bump into an enemy even if it's stunned. my issue isn't that i'm getting damaged from a stunned enemy, my issue is that i'm getting DOUBLE damaged from a stunned enemy. even if i really don't like how even a fly's fart can do double damage to you at least it makes sense if it's like a super heavy hit or something that does continuous damage (e.g. multiple slashes), but a stunned enemy doing double damage feels completely arbitrary and artificial.

>>720213478
Nah bro, he's just sleepy.

>>720213037
>3200+ p/h
more like 13000 if its 46 rosies every 13 seconds

>>720212927
Irrelevant to good changes, eg. less grinding.

>>720213646
I guess I must have missed some stuff, I'm getting near the end of act 2 I think

>>720213689
"DOUBLE damage" from what? from hk1? this isnt hk1. the healing economy is balanced around the fact that you heal 3 up super fast. when theyre stunned you get almost a full heals worth of silk from wailing on them. once you have 7+ hp its really not a big deal, you can unga bunga through most things, jump away, heal, and unga bunga more into a stun -> get your silk back -> heal as they get unstunned and you're back to full. the game is honestly a bit too easy in my opinion and im not even some gamergod

Where's the Abyss map

>>720212927
Sister Splinter is getting nerfed? She was piss easy.
Moorwing was a pain, but you had an ally during that fight that made it significantly easier than it could have been.

>>720212927
>sister splinter
what absolute shitter is getting filtered by her, i beat her first try and im not even that good at this game lol

I just read that the fleamaster is supposed to give you a trinket after you find first five fleas, but I didn't get anything (and I'm at the end of act 2 by now).
Did I get scammed?

>>720213535
>Myla gets a good ending
>But its at the cost of garmond

>>720213858
go upwards from the bottom bench

>>720213858
dont remember but it was close to the beginning and it was up through a ceiling, so look up as you explore the earlier parts

>>720213651
You need a full Silk bar and any overhealing is wasted whereas in HK you could do it with a third of that so it was easier to recover chip damage and that's before shit like the double healing charm, also not every enemy or boss did 2 points though all the later ones probably do, Grimm is honestly the first one I can think of who does it, God help you if you get interrupted as well cause you lose the whole bar

>>720212927
don’t care

>>720213689
This. I would've preferred that they only deal 1 damage or none at all until it recovers

Who the fuck is sister splinter, i dont remember her at all

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHY GALMOND WHY
CANT I SAVE HIM??

>>720213848
>"DOUBLE damage" from what? from hk1? this isnt hk1.
what kind of question is this? should i have said "2 masks of damage" so that you didn't get confused? the fact that you can easily heal doesn't change the fact that it's a bad design choice. i don't have to have my experience personally ruined by an anecdotal frustrating situation to see it.

how do you gain access to the area to the right of far fields?
I already tried the needolin+charm

>beat widow before fourth chorus
>looking at steam achievements this looks massively out if intended order

What the fuck? What’s the god damn intended area order in this game. I went all the way through the area with fourth chorus and never even found a god damned map.

>>720213980
she was the shellwood boss

Wow, this was the easiest boss in the game by far.

>>720213952
yea i would have preferred if none of the enemies hurt me and sat there politely while i kill them all the game would be way better if there was no consequence. i should be able to walk into enemies that are stunned and not moving and the game shouldnt punish me

Doing the last bosses and exploration before finishing the game. Getting really sick at the fucking runbacks only thing I legit hate about the game. I don't even get it hollow knight had the nail teleport to avoid this shit but now I gotta watch 4 animations, 3 braindead platforming sections and kill 10 enemies before I'm allowed to have fun

>>720212927
>Moorwing
>Sister Splinter
People were getting filtered by these two? The former was decently tough made way easier by calling in the warrior guy for help and Sister Splinter is fucking braindead the moment you learn to break her vines immediately and use your Silkspear against her goons

>>720213907
I wasn't aware it could end any differently

>>720213672
I think it's one of the worst and it's a trap. You have awful damage with it, every bosses will take ages to kill. I think the top 3 would be something like Architect > Wanderer > Fully upgraded Hunter.

>>720213858
go over the lake

>>720213980
Tree lady that hangs from the ceiling in shellwood. Honestly not very hard, though she has annoying summons.

What they really needed to do was turn down the worms instead of nerfing them, holy fuck these are P5 Tiso loud

Hornet 2 filtered me in the first game
Will Silksong be too hard for me?

Anyone else had Radiance flashbacks during this fight? Playing the first game definitely makes some parts of silksong easier.

>>720214015
its a fine design choice in my opinion, some stuff still does 1 damage and it should be punishing. especially once you get have 7+ hp its pretty easy, i also am using fractured mask so its an extra cheat death. there's SO MANY opportunities to heal, basically no boss is super aggressive, instead of a damage window you can just jump away to heal. by the time you take 2 hits you have so many iframes you can easily get 8-10 hits in return which is a full silk. meaning if you take 2 hits you can literally refund 75% of the damage taken while doing like 20% of the bosses hp. you can literally go full unga on a lot of bosses

>>720214021
You didn't get the float cloak? I didn't even know you could get to bellhart without it (maybe using the flea caravan for the greymoor skip?)

>>720214036
>I think that stunned enemies doing 2 damage feels non sensical
>WOW OK SHOULD WE JUST HAND YOU THE CREDITS IN A SILVERPLATTER NOW? GIT GUD
You niggers lack any sort of nuance.

>smash blue thing in wormways after having done quest there
>free temp health
cool

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>720214021
well you just didnt backtrack after doing 4th chorus, you can do it immediately after getting the float cloak, i backtracked to try to find air vents to fly up and explore since i knew there were a lot on the way, and happened to stumble into 4th chorus. its a metroidvania though so doing things out of order is the fun part

that ant merchant better not be dead when I break that wall

>>720214217
>walks into stunned enemy
>OMG WHY ARE THEY HURTING ME THIS IS BULLSHIT THEY ARE STUNNED

they literally arent even moving bro you are complaining about an inanimate npc, just dont walk into it lol

>>720214169
shes pretty much slower and easier radiance-like balanced around lack of shade dash
to be honest doesnt deserve a title card whatsoever, needed to be harder but also i understand why shes not

>>720214021
the intended order is like a wide S where you fill side areas after you get abilities

Doko? I thought he would be near the weavenest but he's not

>>720214217
Nah bro I get it, nothing should pose any challenge at all, fuck playing a video game just give me the I win button, no challenge, no fun just one hit kills so I can move on to the next game like a robot

>>720214210
Yeah I took the fleas pretty early on.

>>720214184
oh don't get me wrong, i fucking love the enemy design and especially the bosses and how aggressive i can be against them. but like i said, i don't need to personally have a problem with something like a stunned enemy doing 2 masks of damage to think it's randomly inflated difficulty. my bigger complaints about the game seem harder to fix because they'd involve some redesigning but essentially they boil down to feeling like the game wants to waste your time.

>>720214059
You underestimate the power of a good pogo
And most later bosses don't have that much of an attack window for regular attacks

>>720214341
its not in an area of farfields you have yet, it's from a secret part of farfields you can only get to by using the super jump in another zone. its on one of the doodles on the map and its somewhere that you went to very early that had no use. if you are on the part of the quest where you have to get 3 hearts then its near one of them

>hornet wakes up if you start the game fron her bellhome
Cute.

>>720212927
>moorwing nerf
Fair enough
>sister splinter nerf
It was already too easy

>>720214036
Stop being such a faggot. It's only logical that I thought a staggered enemy can't deal damage if I touch it unless it has spikes or something on its body. It's only a minor complain. It's not like I'm asking for a win-now-button charm

>>720214313
The original complaint wasn't that the stunned enemy is damaging you, the complaint was that the stunned enemy is doing 2 masks of damage, which is a completely reasonable complaint. But aside from not being able to discuss things like a human being you're also an illiterate retard, so I get it.
>>720214375
Why did you just prove my point?

>>720214452
oh wow. I actually finished the game and when I was looking for the verdania's heart I actually super jumped a lot in far field but didnt find anything. will look better thank you

>>720214421
yea i agree the game is not without criticism, some of the run-backs are retarded and the quests to collect 25 bear asses is pointless and gay, but stunned enemies hurting me is never something i had a problem with.. they are stunned.. just dont walk into them. throughout the game i actually CONSTANTLY found myself thinking "you get waaaaay too much healing in this game". every time i would get hit i would be able to heal, by the time i kill another 1-2 enemies you have a heal back again. you can LITERALLY afford to get hit by almost every single enemy, they take 4-6 hits to kill and it takes like 8 or whatever to get a heal back. a lot of the bosses have a LOT of opportunity to heal and there was never a point where i felt the boss was so overwhelming that i had no time

>>720214452
>super jump
do you get that shit in act3?

>>720212927
all hazards should only deal 1 damage. you cant heal off hitting hazards like you can with enemies

I didn't fight moorwing on act 1 so I can't say anything, but even on act 2 it felt like bullcrap

Sister splitter was fun to me but I can imagine it being tough to deal with for some players. I'd say the summons are the big problem, just like in many fights

Honestly the only fight I thought was bullshit was the last judge but I know it can de made easier with a tool

>>720214596
Yes.

>>720214313
>>OMG WHY ARE THEY HURTING ME THIS IS BULLSHIT THEY ARE STUNNED
This but unironically.