Thread 720273918

Sly Cooper is dead for good, furries lost.

90% of them are more excited to produce this...

>>720273918 (OP)
no point in making more when they've already perfected the formula with 3. if you're unable to make huge and meaningful improvements then it doesn't need to to exist.

No shit, they shelved it over 20 years ago and then Sony killed it by having some other retards shit and fart out Thieves in Time. I doubt there's even left from the original dev team.

Why not pass it to another studio who do have a passion for the IP?
>Thieves in Time exists
Oh yeah, never mind. Let it die.

well yeah if my choice of job was taking photos of objects to scan in a game or having to be judged on my skill and talent as an artist, my excitement would be on edge too

>>720274003
The double swords is the one I cant get past. What were they thinking?

>>720273918 (OP)
you can probably count the number of people involved with the company during the sly days on two hands. Might as well have been made by a different company

>5 years after sly 3 only for a shitty collection
>8 years after sly 3 for sly 4 and nothing since then (2013)
woah you telling me this series is dead no way faggot

Could you imagine what a modern Sly would be? Carmelita censored to hell. Sly implied to be bi, or "pansexual." At least one character made trans.

>>720274624
why is there such a visceral hatred for this game?
sure, it's not AS good as the originals but it certainly faired better and sticked closer to the originals than jak and the lost frontier or nu-ratchet
I have never seen a remake shit so much on the original like ratchet & clank 2016 yet that game still gets more praise than TiT

I seriously don't get it
is it just because of the mouse?

>>720274802
The HD Collection was fine, they didn't change or remove anything as far as I'm aware

>>720273918 (OP)
That's a good thing, actually. You don't want your nostalgia mascot to return for a "modern audience". I don't want Jak and Daxter to come back if it means they'll get girlboss'd around and some sort of tranny OC gets added into the cast (voiced by a tranny, of course). Fuck that.

>>720275372
When was the last time this happen?

>>720275243
It's better than 3 but the character assassination was weird and uncalled for + the artstyle is weird mix of detailed but cartoony.

>>720274784
Hm? Whats wrong with them. Jin had a daisho too (though his seemed to be a tanto instead of a wakizashi)

I'm more annoyed that she doesn't look Ainu. I though that was supposed to be the central and interesting conflict, Hokkaido being subsumed into the rest of a unified Shogunate etc. I thought her family gets killed by the soldiers of a daimyo who's clan was given administration of the region? If that's the case, then I'd expect she would be dressed more Ainu with their patterns on her clothes, their instrument (instead of a shamisen), and perhaps one of the distinctive lip tattoos etc.

Yet, they still keep making Bubsy games and there's clearly no audience for it. Bubsy just released a collection of his games on steam just yesterday and it peaked at 80 players on steam. The highest peak for a Bubsy game so far is 110 with Bubsy: Two-Fur. With numbers like these Bubsy 4D at it's best should crack 1k on a weekend. I'm pretty sure Sly Cooper can pull better numbers than this.

>>720275603
I think the implication is the Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart bit with Rivet and the whole
>LOMBAX TIDDIES
issue.

>>720275372
>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY LE TRANNY ON LE BRAIN ALL TRANNY
holy fuck do you faggots even listen to yourselves

I didn't even like 3 much, to be honest.

imagine wanting a new entry of literally any western game right now. you're out of your fucking mind

>>720273918 (OP)
To put this another way
Only 10% of Sucker Punch wants to make a good game that isn't full of automation and has a unique art style.
RIP Sucker Punch, you had a sick style with Sly and Infamous was pretty decent. Sucks you died after that but you're in a better place now.

>>720274228
Redpill me on the Infamous games
I've seen people say they are fun superhero games. Will I enjoy them if I enjoyed Arkham games?

I'd rather have a spiritual successor

>>720276295
I'd say yes. There's a bit more emphasis on platforming and shooting, but it's quite fun.
The first game is good outside of the latter end, the second one is great all around and the best in the series, Second Son (third game with a new protagonist) is mid.

>>720277070
Alright, gonna give them a try next year

>>720273918 (OP)
great just keep making GoY games you faggots until the layoffs start

>>720275752
Ah right, I forgot this game even came out. Was Rivet even that bad in this game?

>>720273918 (OP)
And that's ok. New Sly Cooper would've been full of current day politics.

Okay but Sony or Bamco could at least make collections of old games and put them on PC, yeah? Can we do that?

>>720273918 (OP)
didn't they pass the rights on to someone else when sly 4 came out?

>>720278816
Sony still own the IP. They just got another dev to make Sly 4 as Sucker Punch was busy with inFamous

I remember playing infamous on my ps3 and everything was set to french and I had to call a french professor to translate decisions for me. I never beat the last boss and I regret it to this day. What an amazing game.

>>720273918 (OP)
man the smashing pumpkins really fell off

>>720276295
They're decent if dated.

>>720273918 (OP)
it's for the better. not every IP can be an evergreen juggernaut with constant installments. sometimes it has its time in the limelight and then it's done. nothing wrong with that.

>>720273918 (OP)
I firmly believe if you don't do anything with your IP after 10 years it should go public domain.

>>720284978
thats anti semitic

>>720275608
Yeah, Carmelita's visible rib cage was kinda weird.

the remaining 90% are indians

>>720273918 (OP)
Does sly even need new games?

>>720273918 (OP)
90% of who work there don't even know what Sly Cooper is, fucking women and zoomer poser niggers ruined the industry.

>>720286832
Weird, or hot?

>>720274003
Lol based

>>720274003
What an ugly fag.
The first game was alright but it needed to be rougher around the edges and be weirder.

I never understood why 4chan started going soft on furries, considering that they have become more degenerate in recent years, not less. Something like 80% of all furries are gay.

>>720273918 (OP)
>time goes on and a developer's staff changes and grows to the point where they no longer want to work on their older franchises
>but keep sitting on the IP anyway so no one else can develop those games either
nice

>>720292218
Because the website that caused people to hate furries so much ended up being the birth of the modern tranny movement. Shitting your pants in rage because people find Krystal or Carmelita Fox hot means less when you're cutting your dick off because you think you're a woman.

>>720292369
>>720292218
Also furries in games like this are incredibly tame compared to the average shit furries are jerking off to right now. They aren't even restraining themselves anymore.

>>720277792
no. do not listen to /v/. it's just another rachet and clank game

>>720290605
sales are gonna be even more "based". just please stop shooting up churches/schools...

>>720292424
Slightly connected, someone at the /mlp/ convention just got busted for allegedly being an animal rapist who kept a dying horse alive to rape it and filmed himself doing it. They let him manage a convention knowing this. And /mlp/ is actually supportive of the guy.

>every single sony first party studios are now full of self hating white western leftist cuckolds who want to shit out third person cinematic experiences
lmao shits hilarious as fuck. Reminder that in last decade only TWO Sony 1st party titles were not third person cinematic slop - Ratchet Rift Apart and Astrobot. Sonys first party studios are most overrated trash even tendo bing bing wahoo innovates more somehow and their internal dev teams are more creative.

>>720292218
People forgot how back then it went from pony niggers then to furry faggots spamming their shit. For long time its nigger cuck porn and tranny spam so peoole shifted to shitting on that its simple. Who would have though that if you will stop spamming your trash all day everywhere then people will forget and ignore your mentally ill porn addiction.

>>720273918 (OP)
>furries lost.
Good. I can't wait until their crypto-bestiality is purged from both the internet and culture at large, along with "cunny" faggots and their even-less-hidden pedophilia.

>>720293239
Every time one of those "haha my degeneracy is so funny and ironic" fuckers gets busted for real CSAM and people wonder if warning signs were missed I shake my head

>>720293239
At least cunny bros are actually attracted to human females.

>>720293239
bayseeeeeeeed

>>720292218
going soft? yesterday i opened a thread about a furry game that didn't have anything lewd and it was sent to /trash/ just because someone started to posting porn, instead of just deleting that

>>720273918 (OP)
Just fucking drop it. It had a solid trilogy run and no 4th game, just let it stay dead with it's dignity intact.

>>720277792
She was very "Okay". I wouldn't go higher or lower than that.

>>720277792
Rivet was fine, I personally don’t liked Kit more but I didn’t find anything particularly objectionable about Rivet either

>>720293425
What kind of human females?

>>720273918 (OP)
That's a higher percentage than a new Rocket game.

>>720274874
Yeah this, faggots need to shut the fuck up and let it be, let them do their own abhorrent faggot shit instead of sticking it to actually good series.

>>720273918 (OP)
>always hungry for stealth games about being a skulking thief that are exceedingly rare
>oh shit I never played Sly Cooper
>despite being a thief it has zero gameplay about stealing shit and is just a third person mascot adventure like spyro or ratchet and clank
fucking lame

this sucks a lot considering im on the 3ed game on the series and i almost am at the end i really loved the games but this can make a grown man cry

>>720292308
They did let someone else develop a Sly Cooper game and everyone hated it

>>720274003
Someone post it

>>720295305
Did you only play the first game? The second and third games has what you're looking for.

>>720274003
Thank you for the reminder that I will not pay for this game

>>720273918 (OP)
90% of them are more exciting to next paycheck.

>>720293092
ponies and furries have never been 1% as bad as tranime and nigger dick spam, entire boards are ruined by cuckolds and the brown mods do nothing

>>720296605
>ponies and furries have never been 1% as bad as
Immediately insincere post regardless of the context.

>>720275719
Because Bubsy has lower standards

>>720292968
Returnal was a first party Sony title and wasn't cinematic slop

>>720296605
Yeah thats actual newfag post lmao. You dont remember how pony niggers were spamming shit all day long. Theres a reason why mods folded and gave them entire dedicated board. Furry fag spam also was insane just like nigger cuck tranny spam.

>>720297282
They bought studio after they released the game and main character is 50 years old white hag. Thats three games then vs everything else and guess what - ALL these three games that arent third person cinematic slop are least selling sony first party games in last decade lol.

>>720297341
literally less than discord troons spam this board every single day, it was a ridiculous over correction by moot, but now nobody cares about this site

>>720297341
I'm always surprised at how prevalent pony shit is anytime they're allowed to leak out of their quarantine zone. Shit makes /vg/ look sane.

>>720297534
They are literally not allowed to. They cannot be trusted with that right.

>>720296162
looking at some gameplay it does seem to have more of that stuff, would have liked to have pickpocketing and guards not vanishing into thin air when attacking them though

>>720274003
>The Ghost of Gyoza
>The Oni of Onigiri
>The Teki of Tatsutaage
>The Ubume of Udon
>The Suiko of Sukiyaki
>The Ryuka of Ramen
>The Kotengu of Kenpi
>The Nurikabe of Nabe
>The Otoroshi of Okoshi
>The Sagari of Soki
>The Tsuchinoko of Tsukemen
>The Kappa of Karaage
>The Dorotabo of Dango
>The Bakeneko of Bento
>The Funayurei of Futomaki
>The Enko of Edamame
>The Dochi of Mochi
>The Onikuma of Okonomiyaki
>The Akuma of Anpan

>>720273918 (OP)
Lol the tweet is incredibly misleading.
Nate Fox has been a creative director on every Sucker Punch game including Sly back in the day, he's obviously done with that franchise and doesn't find it creatively fulfilling anymore - that's why he ended it in the first place on his terms with Sly 3.
The idea that developers are obligated to keep churning out the same shit over and over again to appease fans is retarded.

>>720275719
If a new Sly, Jak, or Banjo game looked like Bubsy 4D I guarantee you people would fucking hate it because of how low budget it is and how it's not Mario Odyssey levels of polished

>>720297825
>a thief who can't pickpocket
gay

>>720298414
It's weird how people who kept saying "JUST GIVE IT TO ANOTHER STUDIO" just...forgot Sly 4 was a thing
Sanzaru even pitched it to Sony
Like we didn't learn anything from how poorly that game sold and how poorly it was received by the fanbase
The idea that you can give ANY IP to ANY developer isn't always gonna work out and we saw that with shit like the Battletoads reboot
Has it ever occurred to people that maybe just MAYBE the perfect ideal and available team to inherit certain IPs might not exist?

>>720273918 (OP)
Jesus, imagine getting that kind of closure, lucky bastards.

t. Banjo-Kazooie fan who still has to listen to our delusional fucking fan base beg for new entries clogging up any channel I can use to discuss romhacks and stuff.

>>720299071
>closure
It's half and half
One side is responding to it saying
>I'm disappointed but I fully understand that your creative freedom and fulfillment is important and not all series' need to go on forever. Sly 4 was a disappointment and the cliffhanger stings but you didn't make that one.
Other side is the usual suspects saying shit like how Sony should sell the IP (who the fuck do they think would be better owning it) or the Smiling Friends scene that doesn't even apply here because it's explicitly the developers who simply want to move on. That and some Nintendo fans using it to prop up Nintendo because they accepted MAGES' Famicom Detective Club pitch even though Sony did the same thing when Sanzaru pitched Sly 4

>>720273918 (OP)
A good reminder that game studios change over time and are no longer the same company they were when you were playing their games as a kid
A Sly 5 by modern SP wouldn't hold up to fans expectations

>>720300594
I'm starting to think gamers are retarded

>>720297825
sly 2 and sly 3 do have pickpocketing

>>720274228
The real redpill is realizing that PlayStation and Xbox actually went to shit during the 7th generation

>>720273918 (OP)
Part of me wants to think that a reason for this is Sly 4's shitty ending
>Sly is stuck in Ancient Egypt so you'd have to use time travel for the plot again
>Penelope escaped prison and has been sending cards to Bentley so you'd have to use her again
A sequel would just feel like Thieves in Time 2 rather than a proper sequel. That or they simply admit 4 was never canon and start from where 3 ended again

>>720280129
The other devs (Sanzaru) actually approached Sony because they wanted to make a Sly game. Sony told them no until after they made the remaster.

>>720301712
Nintendo does the same thing but they prefer full remakes rather than remasters for outside devs to inherit their dormant series'

>>720301883
Nintendo's approach is better, full-on remake with new mechanics. New game, old story told for a new generation. Remasters are lazy.

>>720273918 (OP)
Obviously. The thing about all these scrimblo IPs is that none of the original devs actually want to make a new game, either because the existing developer has been ship of Theseus'd, and/or the OGs or IP holders just don't give enough of a fuck.

>>720297830
>this will sell our game

>>720300946
alright, adding this to games to be played, thanks man. why did they decide to add all the core thief stuff to the sequels but not the original?

furries never lose

>>720277792

She and Ratchet are virtually the same character in terms of writing

>>720275759
Not his fault 0.01% of the global population infiltrated and run 50% dev roles

>>720304159
>Not his fault 0.01% of the global population comprises 50% of what you see on 4chan
It is his fault actually. Use filters and hide threads and you'll be amazed how quickly the real world starts to clear up

>>720304128
>She and Ratchet are virtually the same character in terms of writing
So unrealistic girlboss slopaganda

Remember when you could enjoy a game with animal characters without being associated with furries?

>>720305343
no one normal thinks this way, I didn't think about it until you guys mentioned it in this thread. It only shows how degenerate you yourselves are and how much always online you appear.

The worst development of this board I had to witness this year is millennial snoygger pissbabies shitting their diaper because no one gives a fuck about their low quality and failed furry shovelware.
Those shovelware piece of shit were always bad.
Your childhood was shit.
Playstation never made good games.

>>720303879
>let's make a platformer
>ok what should it be about?
>uhhh idk... a raccoon... who's a thief...?
>ok great plaster that over what we already have
vs
>hey what if we expand on this thief concept we came up with and actually make it a core part of the game since it's what we're working with from the start now?

>>720273918 (OP)
Which 10% is he talking about? Another Sly Cooper Game wouldn't take a team nearly as big as most of their games. Maybe just that 10% who want to make another game would be able to pull it off. Maybe it could be a joint project with Team Asobi?

>>720306153
ToTK is still trash though, so who cares?

it'd be woke cooper

>>720273918 (OP)
I would take an inFAMOUS 2 bad ending sequel if they don't want to do another SLY

>>720306378
Sucker Punch was comprised of 160 people back in 2020 so... in the ballpark of 16 people.

>>720306438
Murray was gay the whole time, Anon. I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you that.

>>720274003
Funny, I enjoyed Ghost of Tsushima well enough to do two playthroughs and a stint on multiplayer, but I have zero desire to play Ghost of Yotei
Not even a passionate "Fuck this game!" or anything like that Just a complete lack of interest or desire to even touch it.
Feels like I got everything I wanted from that game already from the first one.

>>720297830
>The Ghost of Gyoza

>>720305343
the 70s?

>>720306615
There are only about 40 members of Sucker Punch credited on Sly 3. 16 Sucker Punch team members plus support from Asobi would be more than enough for a game with the same scope. Especially because the focus should be on highly stylized models and textures rather than highly detailed and realistic ones. It would be awesome if they could finally make a Sly game that actually looks like the 2D art.

>>720306847
i enjoyed my 1st playthrough enough
though, i went full samurai and didn't even bother with any ninja shenanigans untill i had nothing more to unlock
walking into a stronghold and just fucking murder everybody after the dueling was a pretty great samurai power fantasy, but the dissonance in the story development was brutal

>>720307101
>support from Asobi
Asobi's a small team as well and Anon, what makes you so confident those 16 members are necessarily the right ones in the right position that can make the game and cover every role necessary?
If a new Sly Cooper game doesn't come out looking like a modern Ratchet & Clank, it's gonna raise eyebrows because of the precedent set by Sly's contemporary

>>720273918 (OP)
>They will not dig sly out from the grave and ruin the old games with american politics and ue5 remake sloppa.
Good. Praise. I am so happy.

No one would care if they'd sell the rights. Instead they cling to them and refuse to let anyone so anything with something they now openly admit they'll never touch again. But they can't even just do that. They NEED to let you know they hate the thing they're keeping and they don't want it and won't even entertain why you like it.

At least Sly is at least still honored a bit by SuckerPunch, I wouldn’t be surprised if the average Naughty Dog dev would just respond with “What’s that?” If they were asked the same question about Jak.

>>720306324
that makes a lot of sense, man it's weird to think of mascot platformers being the big trendy thing everyone was doing, it's like we've been stuck in this realism-chasing gritty Call of duty-last of us prestige games for so long it's hard to remember that the equivalent of that was colorful mascots back then

>>720306847
Same. The new game just isn't innovating on anything, and all the new things they are adding like "NPCs come to you" that they play up as this big thing is just leaving one with a shrug. The combat was also just decent from the first game, so to hear them laud it as something near perfect with the attitude of if it ain't broke, don't fix it is just not very inspriing.

>>720307307
In any case, if Bubsy 4D does really well, I'm sure that 10% would go up. If not voluntarily, at least through some top down nudging from Sony.

>>720273918 (OP)
Yotei looks like/will be shit. It’s so obvious it’s just tiring at this point.

>>720308084
Here's the thing with Bubsy 4D, it's blatantly an indie game thrown onto an established IP
Bubsy 4D gets away with it because nobody has actual standards or expectations for Bubsy and the series has nothing to lose
Bubsy gets a mediocre game on an indie tier budget?
Nothing changes because Bubsy can't go any lower
Sly gets a mediocre game on an indie tier budget?
Gonna kill him harder than Thieves in Time did

>>720273918 (OP)
Sly Cooper ended. In 2005. Accept it.

>>720308413
Bubsy 4D isn't mediocre though. The demo was pretty good. There's a chance it sells really well on its own merits because it being good advertises itself.

A new Sly game that makes a point of distancing itself from Thieves in Time would also get a lot of buzz. And leaning into fanservice in both senses would probably make it the most successful game in the franchise.

>>720275243
It really wasn't that good and nobody from when it released wanted more of that. Ratchet and clank went all in on graphics so it exist to be a demo test for other projects, sly doesn't have that benefit.