Thread 720278418

This game is too motherfucking hard

>>720278418 (OP)
It's not so bad when you learn how to roll cancel.

Man I wish I can play the OG xbox version

It gets way easier once you realize how insanely strong the block is

>>720278418 (OP)
NG2 is the only fun NG game so just play that.

DMCbro...

>>720278418 (OP)
What's the difference between this and the Sigma version (which afaik it's the only version you can play in modern consoles)?

>>720278583
Sigma cuts out a lot of the more tedious puzzle segments.

>>720278418 (OP)
>NG1
>Hard
lol.... you silly actiongame virgin. NG1 is actually by FAR the easiest in the trilogy. Enemies are slower, and so is Ryu,
Just make sure you ALWAYS are holding the block trigger, ALWAYS, and make sure you roll+block all the time.
Also learn to Izuna drop and flying swallow, and UT's
NG3 is waaaaay harder than NG1

>>720280919
Once you get into the flow of using dash to stun enemies, plus quick heavy strings to bloody enemies, razors edge feels very manageable. Ryu is at his most dangerous. Though ultimate ninja is a bit retarded. Especially if you see any footage of people clearing UN trials and they just abuse scythe frames

>>720278523
>instantly grabs you without any tell

>>720278492
You can buy the OG version(black) on the latest Xbox. Or you can find the disk, that works too.

>>720280919
NG3 is the easiest because Ryu is virtually superman in that game

>>720281494
Enemies will try to grab you after certain conditions. The white military guys will try to grab you after they finish their first string. The white armored guys with the big gun will try to grab you if you do flying swallow, but they can't do shit against Guillotine Throw (a good move that people should use more often.) It's something that you're supposed to prepare for or plan around rather than react to.

people always meme about you only need to spam flying swallow and izuna drop but playing it for the first time recently it's really uncanny how I ended up doing just that, are they the safest move to do? I'm guessing izuna drop has a long ass invul to give you time to think

anyway I just started sigma 2 and it really is too easy even on hard

>>720285769
Install black mod for sig2. Literally just extract the zip from nexus mods. Vanilla sig 2 is a joke

>>720278583
sigma adds bad rachel sections and a bad water running section and swords akimbo which i never used, it's fine i guess

>>720278418 (OP)
It really isn’t, and I say this as someone who spent years delaying playing it out of anxiety due to the difficulty
The only hard parts of the game are the ninja missions in sigma
Everything else is handled pretty much through liberal use of the block and learning how to jump out of the way, a skill you probably picked up from dmc if you’ve played it
The game does a good job of easing you into harder difficulties, assuming you started on normal

>>720282001
ng04 is not ngb!
while black added content from the hurricane packs and mission mode, its also a full balance update.

also keep in mind ng04+hurricane packs added the parry intercept, that's exclusive to this version.

and yes sigma sucks lol

>>720278418 (OP)
i only dislike the boss fights, the movement is fun and regular enemies are fun to fight
the boss fights just suck, man

>>720278418 (OP)
I AM ENTITLED TO BEAT THE GAMES I PLAY
ENTITLED
DEVS
CHANGE NERD THE GAME

>>720278418 (OP)
It's fine, as is black. Sigma is more fun though, especially on MN. Inb4 blacked fags about their puzzles

>>720278418 (OP)
nah m8 just keep charging those UTs

>>720278418 (OP)
you can beat it, i believe in you

I wish the other games carried on the world building a bit more, NG1 sets up a really cool setting. Even though it only takes place in the Hayabusa village and Vigoor it gives them a real sense of place, they really build on the theme of this world being a strong mix of the ancient and the futuristic, especially Vigoor with its industralist style built on top of an ancient middle eastern city. And of course Hayabusa village is kino. NG2 doesn't even try really, and NG3 just takes place in rather boring places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=235_ZSHxrIk

>>720279196
Such as?

>>720278418 (OP)
The best action game ever made. The Black version at least.

>>720289265
Backtracking in mission 4 for ticket to get to bar, some of the underwater shit off the top of my head. Get that shit out of my action game.

>>720278418 (OP)
Haven't played the Xbox trilogy but I played the OG NES ones.

>>720287925
I wish most of NG2 happened in cyberpunk tokyo and the ship or russia

>>720287925
I liked how everything in NG1 was connected. In NG2 it is a lot more classic with every level being its own thing in its own place. It doesn't do a lot with it, but I really how you slowly unlock bits and pieces of tairon and can go back to some older places to bust down walls and collect pickups. Or a few puzzles like the throne with the unlit fires. They barely have any adventure game pieces in it, but at least there was some. They shouldve expanded on it, rather than cut it out.

>>720290659
Tokyo is amazing and I have no idea why they only had a single level there. Would love it if it would be NG2's tairon and you slowly unlock bits and pieces of it.

>>720278418 (OP)
Learn to evade

>>720287925
>vigoor
>middle eastern

Vigoor is clearly based on Russia dude. Middle Eastern women don't look like pic rel.

>>720285769
There are many spammable moves in the game. In 2 specifically they made off the wall X very good on most weapons. A lot of people stop at izuna drop and fs.

>>720292745
nta but Russia exists in NG2 as a separate country, Vigoor is clearly based on Khazaria aka Ukraine.

>>720278492
Based and same. I hate how it's been completely replaced with Black and Black was completely replaced with Sigma.

>>720287196
>sigma sucks
why?

>>720278492
>>720295896
>>720282001
You know both the OG Xbox and Xbox 360 have nice, functioning emulators on PC, right? They're nowhere near the level of something like Dolphin, but for any game that hasn't gotten a rerelease(like NGB and NG2V) work has been put into making them compatible

>>720287925
Ng04/NGB is the only one I really liked and it’s a combination of it feeling the best to play (imo) but also the world feels the most thought out and cohesive. NG2 and ng3 seemed retarded to me. I would compare it to something like the batman film where he trains with those ninja at the start with Christian bale, vs the vibe of a modern marvel movie like that thanos shit where they try to cram so much shit into it it feels like retarded fan fiction.

>>720296854
>world of the first one feels the most thought out and cohesive
I agree with this 100% I also think the first game has a pretty underrated story for an action game but I personally find ryu's controls and toolkit to be the best in razors edge even though the setting and the story are completely asinine.

>>720296257
Because he's a bandwagoning faggot. Sigma is fine and a good entry point for new fans. Only major flaw with Sigma 1 are Rachel's levels, but they're so short that it isn't an issue. The only bad ones are Sigma 2 due to the changes in enemy encounters and how it massive boosts enemy HP and damage output to compensate and Vanilla 3 since it's a fucking God of War game disguised as Ninja Gaiden. Anything else is fine.

Should I play NG1 or NG1: Black?

>>720297235
>pretty underrated story
It's not really underrated if it's genuinely barely there.

>>720297675
Frankly I think NGB I don’t know what advantage 04 has over it. I’m sure it has some one or two fringe things like a missing costume but nothing meaningful. NGB gave basic enemies more attacks and also added more enemies to the game on hard mode and up. you also get mission mode. You also get an unlockable easy mode if you suck. has more weapons im pretty sure. it’s the gold standard imo how a game should play. You play it once and if you like it you get good and you do it again in a higher difficulty and get surprised at all the things that change. I almost beat very hard mode but my Xbox broke.

>>720298394
no it is. hours and hours of filler dialogue, exposition, and quips do not make a story. the interactions of rachel/alma ryu/doku, the emperor and murai make for a fine story. the setting is told through the environment and bits of narration from examining various things. it all works without trying too hard. more games should follow this model

>>720282001
black is nowhere jear the same as the original

>>720290659
Absolutely, anon. That opening Tokyo level had so much atmosphere-it oozed this cool cyber-ninja tone that the rest of NG2 never capitalized on. Instead we got random fantasy streets, some jungle ruins, and Russia with dudes throwing rocket launchers 24/7. Imagine steadily unlocking a high-tech Tokyo hub, rooftop fights, neon-lit alley ambushes, underground labs. Would’ve given the whole game a cohesive vibe like Tairon did in Black. Missed opportunity hard.

>>720298972
>the interactions of rachel/alma ryu/doku, the emperor and murai make for a fine story
Fine story lmao.
What interactions bro? There's barely anything there.
These characters are all completely one note and generic. Even Ryu, despite looking cool, is nothing more than your basic le stoic, silent and duty-bound ninja that appears in every media ever.
>it all works without trying too hard
It works on the most basic level possible. It's not terrible simply because there's nothing there to criticize but saying it's underrated is incorrect.

>>720297675
no reason to ever play 04 except to satiate your own curiousity
any retard telling you it's worth playing is a braindead poser, it's just a worse experience compared to black

>>720278536
true. NG1 is overrated

>>720278536
Spoken like a true poser secondary. Have fun with your respawning jellyfish and fuck ton of shooting gallery sections to slow the game to a screeching halt.

>>720287925
They dropped the ball so hard after NGB it's kind of incredible really

>>720301285
ng1 has respawning jellyfish too. and the level design is full of tedious key finding. and chapter 9 is the worst level put in any game ever

>>720296257
>sigma 1 sucks
>why?
combination of it being a bad ps3 port and full of random small changes.
puzzles got deleted. music was changed for several bosses, the title screen and the starting level for no reason.
they added a doku fight in the beginning but it ruins the impact of fighting him later (and they changed his music then too lol).
dual swords sound amazing but they're legit broken after being ported from ng2 and their 360' spin ruins some bosses.
some graphics had a downgrade. transparencies were removed from the skull key door and the blimp with clouds level no longer move.
some areas were broken up into more loading zones. one is legit in a hallway with military rocket guys. 1 path in the city was blocked either because loading zones or they think players are retarded navigation-wise.

also it makes no sense to remove puzzles and then force slow rachel chapters

>>720299649
04 with the hurricane paks is at least the hard level black campaign with camera control and intercept.
I modded an xbox just for it, but 1 new mechanic probably isn't interesting enough for most people.

>>720301864
So we agree 3 is the best? Good.

>>720302590
never played it. it looks kinda ass tho

>>720278418 (OP)
It wasn't too bad for me except for the bosses, which are apparently the easy part. Felt like trial and error bullshit.

Took me a couple hours to get through the first level on Sigma 2 Black MN last night. That mode is not fucking around lmao. I recorded it just to admire in .25x speed how much shit is happening every split second.

>>720302837
3 is pretty good. As long as it's Razor's Edge.

>those bone fish sections
what the fuck!

>>720306290
Just get out the nunchucks. Then it is so easy.

>>720278418 (OP)
I rented the game as a kid and was so frustrated by the first boss I was shaking and had tears in my eyes. I've never had a game hand me my ass before. I was just so captivated by it though. It played so well, the graphics were unbelievable, and the setting was perfect. I had to see what was next. I literally took some deep breaths, got good, and beat the fucking game. Low T tranny journalists will NEVER know that feeling.

>>720296371
Xemu and Xenia still have issues with the NG games unfortunately

>>720306756
NGB is fine on xemu

>>720306856
The water is all fucked up still and I don't want to play whole levels with the water looking like that.
There's the custom build here but I don't know how broken the game is outside of it in this older build
https://github.com/xemu-project/xemu/issues/587

>>720304982
lol
lmao

>>720307274
The gameplay in 3RE mogs all other character action games.

I've heard Black had puzzles that were removed in Sigma. Is this true?

>>720306756
I just played through NG2 on Xenia, you need patches to get it working but it's plenty good when the other option is buying original Xbox hardware

>>720307502
Real shame about the rest of it and it sucking so fucking bad

>>720307274
still better than literally every puzzle and gimmick section from 1 and 2

>>720307879
Would you spoonfeed me which patches?

>>720307652
yeah, but they didn't gut all of them unfortunately

It's /OurGuys/ time in the spotlight now Ryu bitches.

>>720308108
I like puzzles and gimmicks to break up my action, so I'll play Black.

>>720308370
enjoy it then

Hey, there's a ninja with huge boobs over there!

>>720309119
That could be like 3 different characters.

>>720309195
Well, really only one if we're talking about Black.

>>720307274
an entire game of only this would still be better than the worm in NG2

>>720308010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgXrTTpSPJw

This is the guide I used IIRC. The config file is almost small enough that I could dump the text here, but not quite. An important note is that there is a section at the start of mission 12 or 13 that crashes if you have these fixes enabled. It's right at the very start of the mission, so just return everything to default(including resolution), make your way to the next save point and you can reenable the config and patches. Easiest way to do this is to just create a copy of the unchanged config file and place that in the directory when you get to the crash(whether patches are enabled is a toggle in the config), then replace it with the updated config file once you're past it.

Playing these through in order and Sigma is up first. What do I need to know

>>720311084
>Sigma
Oh boy

>>720311084
Sigma 1 is good. Play any version of 2 except Sigma. Play Razor's Edge.

>>720310904
Thanks anon, I'll give this a go after I beat Black

>>720311084
>What do I need to know
Have many years and over hundred hours of experience.

>>720308131
What a fucking low tier character.
Looks like a background character that you would not even notice.
Complete easthetic failure.

I just ordered a used Xbone X for NG2.

>>720313473
Have fun

>>720314286
Do you really need to learn how to do pirouettes like a faggot if you wanna become a badass ninja?

>>720292745
>Vigoor is clearly based on Russia dude
Amerimutt education btw

>>720313754
>>720313836
I like the Bayo games but the scoring system is too abstracted out for me to want to give a shit about getting better. It sounds so trivial but DMC having a nice big letter and a little progress bar under it does so much to motivate me to play well as compared to a list of numbers and multipliers

>>720315430
I still haven't gotten into DMC yet, should I?

>>720315569
Yeah, pretty much if you like Bayo you'll like DMC, they have almost exactly the same feel

>>720307502
>>720308008
>>720310171
>delusional 3RE trannies
KEK

>>720315910
>27 mil karma
why do you keep playing the game if you hate it so much

>>720314908
>refuses to provide an alternate answer

>>720308131
Yakumo's going to fail to protect Seori btw. The whole plot of NG4 is shaping up to be "none of this would have happened if Ryu were here." Team Ninja wants to experiment with new gameplay styles and store while also glazing Ryu (unfathomably based.) So they're going to introduce weaker ninja like Kenji and Yakumo who will struggle with shit that Ryu could easily fix.

Unless they remake the NES games which feature big dick final villains like Jo Hayabusa with demonic energy or the ancient ship of doom and its power to obliterate mountain ranges casually, it'll be hard to have Ryu as the MC since he's too fucking good.

>>720319905
Ryu saving the day like always would be a kino story line to be honest.

Sort of like Solid Snake at the end of MGS 2.

1B > 3RE > 2

2 has the worst fucking bosses in any game I've played in a long time. 3RE is an improvement on 2 in every way imaginable, but still not a good game. 4 is going to easily blow all 3 games out of the water.