Thread 720280509

WE MUST BE GENTLER MEN

I like Gustave

>>720280509 (OP)
Gustave is more of a man than kratos

Gustave's the best character in the game.
So yeah, guess we should be.

>>720280509 (OP)
this is starting to be annoying. these soibois are destroying every single game they play. Just stop with the "better men" unironic posts: all you are doing is making me want to rape some random woman on the street.

>>720280509 (OP)
Gustave is the goat, and yes, men should be more like him

>>720280509 (OP)
I think the whole game is gay and I have no interest in playing it

>>720280779
We always knew you didn't play videogames so it's alright.

>>720280779
it's literally a harem game, the guy literally fucks all the bitches lol

Luv Gustaf
'Ate verso

>>720280509 (OP)
For those who cum in my wife after.

Gustave was a better man, a better person, and a better character than Verso.

>>720280821
Not Gustave lol

>>720280509 (OP)
everytime I see a female voice on a youtube video, I turn it off and I block the channel

>>720280821
He fucks ONE depending on which you choose, and it's not even his little sister.

Men became slowly weaker when they let women have voting rights

>>720280865
to be fair, would Gustave behave like Verso if he had his life? Probably, Verso was forced to have this immortality thing and realized he was created just so that his mother can cope with the death of the real Verso, that shit can fuck up a man badly

>>720280509 (OP)
>Genius
>Respected by basically everyone
>Wants to have children against the odds
>Solves basically the foundation of reality theorem in his world
>Loyal to woman he loves and sisters to death
>Charismatic
>Handsome
>Inspirational
>Capable of fighting better than most on top of all that
Yes, I should think I'd like to be this man, please and thank you.

>>720280916
I thought he could fuck Lune and Sciel separately, so that's why I only managed to fuck Sciel and saw he could fuck Lune on a walkthrough...

>good masculinity is when guys i want to fuck do things that i support
>toxic masculinity is when guys i don't want to fuck do things that i dislike

the discourse around masculinity is so fucking retarded.

toxic masculinity is not purposeless. when it's cold and pissing rain at 6am and you have a 2 hour drive and a 10 hour workday ahead of you building other people's houses, stoicism is necessary. if all you do is whine and complain people are rightly going to view you as too weak to hack the job and unreliable, so you keep that shit to yourself.

at the same time, stoicism and self-reliance are the worst possible things you can attempt to rely on when dealing with mental health problems or depression and suicidal ideation because such problems turn your own thought processes against you and you need external input to break those loops.

the point here is that different tools are appropriate in different situations.

but people cannot be all things. you cannot be ultra sensitive in one context and a complete hardass in the other, human personality doesn't work that way. the way humans work as a species is to produce a balanced distribution of personalities across the population so that the right person for the job always exists. but no individual person is right for every job. part of growing up is learning how to extend yourself into new domains, but you can only change so much.

anyway the point is a youtuber talking about videogames has nothing to teach anyone about humanity.

>>720280865
Verso is a better character because of how fucked up he is.

>>720280948
If their lives were swapped, I don't believe Gustave would've allowed Verso to die the way Verso did to him just to make Maelle easier to manipulate.

>>720280948
>would Gustave behave like Verso if he had his life?
Painted Alicia didn't and neither did Painted Renoir or Painted Clea. And the former of these arguably had it much worse than him.
So Verso being garbage is probably just the combination of the pieces of the cards he was dealt and the personality traits he had from the original Verso - the ones Aline ASSUMED the original Verso had, anyways, with no way to confirm it.

>>720281037
don't forget that Verso was betrayed by an expedition and was tortured to death, that thing can make a man weary of future expeditions

>>720281024
Verso's entire character is ultimately just being a two-faced snake in the grass. The closest thing he has to trust is the feelings for the painted Renoir and Alicia because at least he never lied to them about his intentions, even if the painted Renoir correctly called him out by asking who Verso was really saving with his "sacrifice."

>>720281082
He was betrayed by an expedition becuse they constantly lied to them and refused to explain anything until they became so paranoid of their schizo behaviour they resorted to torturing them.

>>720280509 (OP)
WE MUST BE HARMLESS GOYS

>>720281062
>and the personality traits he had from the original Verso
I don't believe that, the real Verso decided to take his own life so that his sister can live, with the right conditions, Verso is a good man

>>720280948
Reminder that Renoir painted Verso as someone who can't stop lying even when he was basing it on the RL version so he was always like that.

>>720281082
They betrayed him because Verso thought it would be a good idea to hide his immortality and connection to the Paintress. And then he never actually learns this is a bad idea even after another expedition (don't remember which, but it's the one that died in Old Lumiere) ALSO discovered it and branded him an enemy. He never fucking learns and always assumes his way is the best way for getting what he wants.

>>720281157
Painted Verso did the same thing though

>>720281004
Honestly one of the substanceless long posts I've ever read here. Sorry, genuinely. I think I vaguely get what you are trying to communicate but this is Jason Pargin tier.

>>720280821
Oh wow, a harem game with fully clothed westoid bitches that have 3dpd faces and big jaws.

>>720281157
Read the entire post.
The personality traits Aline thought he had. Everyone in Verso's family presumed real life Verso was a liar or duplicitous person of some sort, whether it be that he had ulterior motives to what he did growing up or that he was never showing them his real feelings.
This obviously got translated into the fake Verso, and amped up by centuries of being an absolute retard instead of just a pianist in a loving family home he turned into a sociopath.

>>720280580
He was too pure for that world

Verso is foid core
Gustave is bro tier

>>720281157
The thing is, neither Renoir nor Aline actually knew Verso that well. Aline painted her ideal son, and Renoir created an axon in his image that always lies.

>>720281231
he didn't, do the same thing, since he and his painted sister are still alive, and he wants to destroy the whole painted world so that he can rest in peace, he doesn't give a fuck about monoko, esquie, lune, sciel... he doesn't mind that they'll all die because of him, he's selfish as fuck

>>720280509 (OP)
It's okay to have gentle masculinity

>>720281004
You can be stoic without being toxic.

>>720281231
lol no he didn't. Original Verso presumably still wanted to live, and decided his sister was worth taking a literal building on top of his body for.

Fake Verso did not give a flying fuck about living anymore at that point and had already killed everyone else over his own pity party, so he decided to just commit to the last steps of his suicide because he doesn't trust his sister should be allowed to decide how to die or hell, to just stay there for a while longer until she can be talked out of being there by someone maybe.

Not the same in the slightest.

we must uphold societal expectations that do more harm than good.. but we must do it like, real light like, not pushy... be gentle, do 50 pushups daily, lift some small weights, 60 kilos maybe...

>>720281252
he's not a sociopath, he was dealt with shit cards, so all he wanted to do was to stop this madness, he didn't ask to be there, he didn't ask to be created so that the Dessandre familly can cope with grief, even Renoir apologized to Verso about the fact that he was there just for those fucked up reasons

Whether the real Verso was a good person or not, painted Verso was a selfish piece of shit who wrapped his self-centered desires in a flag of moral righteousness. It's easy for him to pretend he's helping Aline move on and saving Alicia from killing herself when it also suits his ends of finally dying.

>>720281346
>It's okay to have gentle masculinity
it's funny because at the very begining of the game Gustave was being very aggressive towards Maelle and I thought he would be an asshole, but it didn't happen, and I still see this scene as weird, he never acted that way ever again

>>720281238
the weakshit feminine discourse around masculinity irritates me because actual masculinity is very necessary in many situations.

however, toxic masculinity as defined by weakshit feminists is a real thing and i am not some chauvinist revanchist.

they are correct in identifying the problems but incapable of offering solutions because the refuse to accept the good or even necessary parts of masculinity. i can only assume that they are like this because their goal is not improving the lives of men, but eradicating masculinity, regardless of the harm (even if they do not realise this themselves).

in any situation, people outside "the system" are good at identifying problems with "the system" but next to worthless when it comes to solving them.

>>720280509 (OP)
Lol.. no.

>>720281231
>Real Verso: I will kill myself for my sister! This is my personal choice and should fall only on me.
>Fake Verso: I will kill EVERYONE and shatter their hopes and dreams after manipulating them to do it so my sister uhhhhhh dies elsewhere I guess! Just not on my lawn!

No.

>dies like a bitch
>all his childhood female friends immediately jump on the new guy's dick who replaces him 0.1 microseconds after his lifeless body hits the floor

>>720280509 (OP)
I'm so tired of this shit.
>Modern women
Act like whores, judge all men for basically anything they do, are essentially allowed to do whatever they want AND DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE THEM BACK
>Modern men
Fuck you, everything is your fault. Everything. No you can't have hobbies and interests. WHAT? YOU'RE ATTRACTED TO BREASTS? SCUM. We should remove anything you like from entertainment. How dare you try and speak up for yourself, incel. Be better.

>>720281447
>Whether the real Verso was a good person or not, painted Verso was a selfish piece of shit
to be fair, Alicia isn't a great person either, she prefers to use painted Verso as a puppet so that she can still live on this virtual world (and kill herself in the process), ultimately, there's no antagonists in this game, they're all dealt with shit solutions, only Renoir is the guy that makes sense, he's the only non retarded guy on this game (maybe Gustave would be too but we'll never know)

>>720281490
The fawkes guy was a far-left lunatic, though. If he were to succeed in real life we would have to suffer through empty shelves and 5 hour long breadlines once again.

>>720281523
yep, the worst offender of this is Sciel, once she knows she can revive his husband, she still wants to fuck Verso, that's absolutely fucked up, she's the weakest character of the game by far

>>720281458
Gosh I wonder why the guy whose should-be-wife is about to fade into oblivion and is leaving on a suicide mission shortly after would be on edge

>>720281390
Fuck off, you have been given a long enough list of arguments by everyone in this thread as to why "but it ain't my fault, it's everyone else's!" simply doesn't apply to him.
No, he is very much a sociopath. No, he is not a martyr. No, he didn't just "want to stop the madness", that is not even remotely part of his character because he switches sides like five different times before the game is even over to show you he is fundamentally flawed and incapable of putting up with the drawbacks of his choices despite making everyone else burden the consequences.

>>720280509 (OP)
To women, the gold standard is good natured himbo. Even chicks I know IRL who aren't gamers at all, thirst over characters like Arthur from RDR2 because he is peak Himbo. Apparently it's his notebook and drawings that really make women wet.

>>720281576
She doesn't use anyone like a puppet, the fuck are you talking about? Do you even understand how the game's universe works?

>>720281637
wtf is a himbo?

>>720281626
>No, he is not a martyr.
he is though, he was created by people who didn't care about his own consent, instead of letting him rest in peace, they decided to trap him into this painted prison place, why should he care about their feelings since they didn't care about his own?

>>720280865
>better man
True.
>better person
Yeah.
>better character
Nah. Verso is the best character in the game by far.

>>720281618
No, she doesn't. The moment she learns her husband can be resurrected she NoWayFag's Verso and tells him it's out of the question for them to have a long lasting relationship or even a superficial one.
Did you not play the game? I am starting to think you did not play the game.

>>720281576
Painted Verso ignored her wishes, the wishes of Lune and Sciel, and basically wanted to force his desired outcome onto everyone, and it conveniently worked out for him that his desire just happens to save Aline and Alicia's lives. He spends the entire game, literally from the moment he shows himself to E33, lying to their faces. To me, Maelle's ending isn't just about her losing herself to the canvas, it's also her punishing Verso, and that's part of why I liked it.

>>720281668
>She doesn't use anyone like a puppet, the fuck are you talking about?
are you retarded or something? did you even see the maelle's ending? Verso was begging her to kill him (Gommage) and she didn't do it, she decided to let him live even though he wants to die, he's so disgusted by this he doesn't enjoy playing piano anymore, his soul is completly crushed, and Maelle doesn't care, she is forcing him to live and play the piano

>>720281523
French cuck game, what did you expect? BE A BETTER MAN

>>720281710
You are too retarded to have this conversation and I now regret having invested the time to have it with you.
Carry on, anon. Just, go.

>>720281779
NTA, but he deserves it. Go your entire immortal life forcing your will upon others, you get to suffer as someone does the same to you, only this time the other person is basically god.

>>720281157
>the real Verso decided to take his own life so that his sister can live
What if I told you he didn't? What if I told you the entire events of the game are based on a lie so that Verso could elope with his writer GF in secret? That's the secret lore of the game. Verso is a piece of shit.

>>720281779
Good fucking god you are stupid, jesus christ this is why we should not give everyone access to the same things
fuck your existence is infuriating

>>720281764
>No, she doesn't. The moment she learns her husband can be resurrected she NoWayFag's Verso and tells him it's out of the question for them to have a long lasting relationship or even a superficial one.
not at all, once she knows she can reserruct her husband, she still asks Verso if they can do it "one last time", and as Verso you have the choice to say "yes" or "no", did you even play the game you retarded faggot?
https://youtu.be/pJGJtcCWwtA?t=982

>>720281618
No she doesn't lmao, the moment she knows her husband can be revived she drops Verso instantly. Only Lune is a real romance option.

I don't get it. When only knew Gustave for like a couple of hours at most but he left a wound that simply wouldn't heal. How the fuck did they do it?

>>720281882
>>720281814
I accept your concession

>>720280865
Which is sad because goddamn did they kill him early before he even had a chance to become a character and grow from interacting with the world.
But ooops turns out he was just a npc in paintVR and all the "people" in the world are literally puppets with 1 personality trait from the depth of a 6 year old boy.
Most pathetic and shallow writing in any jrpg I ever played. There is just nothing but vibes from music and film filters.

We need more French games

>>720281924
not at all, wtf >>720281903

>>720281929
He was just a nice and intelligent man with charisma in a game filled with two-faced mentally unstable assholes attempting to make everything worse for everyone.
Thus, Gustave and Painted Alicia stand out despite being marginal characters out of the contrast of simply being genuinely nice and proactive people who get shafted by everyone, then the game proceeds to spit on their graves for good measure.

>>720281929
Feels like a real guy. He has this big goal of killing the Paintress and genuinely believes in it, and within literal minutes of arriving on the continent he has that hope crushed so brutally that it makes him want to kill himself. Promptly decides "fuck this, I'm taking my sister-daughter home, we'll come back later" but ultimately decides to continue the mission and do what they came to do.

>>720281929
>I don't get it. When only knew Gustave for like a couple of hours at most but he left a wound that simply wouldn't heal. How the fuck did they do it?
they made an insanely good character, with good heart, they knew what they were doing, they decided to break our heart on purpose kek

>>720281929
Gustave is (you) the player.

>>720280948
Verso was a scumbag because the real Verso was also a scumbag. He's a natural born snake. Even his own father thought of him as a two-faced piece of shit. It had nothing to do with his immortality. You might have noticed that despite supposedly having feelings for Julie and all his lost friends from other expeditions, none of them appear when Sirene is doing her thing. Everyone else sees dead loved ones, he sees nothing. He doesn't care about anyone and everything he says is nothing but empty justification for why he should be allowed to kill himself and take everyone with him.

That said, Verso's ending is the correct one.

>>720281987
Do you know what last time means?

>>720280509 (OP)
Gustav died in vain. And his world was ruined, before being erased.

>>720282054
>the real Verso was also a scumbag.
I don't believe a scumbag would've sacrified his own life to save his sister, I stand by that

Gaston is what you should aim to be like. Not this gay shit.

>>720282070
yes, it means fucking one last time, that's why Verso has the choice to say "I don't think that's a good idea", even him knows how fucked up this is

>>720282124
Too stupid to read and humiliated by the wealthy who takes your girlfriend and beats you up until you die/are run out of town?

>>720282092
nta, but there are saints who occasionally bear ill intent, and even the vilest of men can display good will toward others. A man sacrificing himself for his family doesn't inherently make him a good man.

That's not to say I believe the real Verso was as scummy as the painted one, but I think he had the potential to be if placed in similar circumstances.

Painted people aren't real

>>720282145
>even him
Of course the retard would be an ESL.

>>720282214
Don't care, still prefer them over the real ones and I WILL kill you for them if given the chance.

>>720281004
>you cannot be ultra sensitive in one context and a complete hardass in the other
This was the whole point of chivalry. Read more books, kimosabe.

>>720282220
>he believes they didn't fuck
how retarded can you be?

The way the game turns from a quest of people trying to stop their people from dying and kill the evil witch in a magical new land. To some bullshit family drama was a huge letdown

>>720282214
They are. Even Renoir (real) believes as much, which is why he apologizes to the painted Verso and the others in E33. If the man willing to kill them all believes their creations are living beings, they are.

>>720280509 (OP)
I JUST WANT MY DICK SUCKED! GODDAMMIT!

>>720282191
>A man sacrificing himself for his family doesn't inherently make him a good man.
it does though, a sociopath wouldn't trade his own life for anything else

>>720282214
>Dispensing profound apologies to the things that aren't real
Great so Renoir is also insane then.

>>720282214
They are, they're just lesser beings to real humans. No one cries when an animal is slaughtered for meat.

>>720282308
You don't understand what a sociopath is. Which considering your retardation and the fact you are an ESL, it comes as no shock you would mistake the word "sociopath" for "psychopath", since you don't even know the fucking language.

>>720282252
>Don't care, still prefer them over the real ones and I WILL kill you for them if given the chance.
kek, he has a point though

>>720282092
See: >>720281869
But also, even if that's merely headcanon, you can be a compulsive liar and manipulator and still not want your sister to die lol. That's not a contradiction. Apply some nuance here.

>>720282308
I didn't say he's a sociopath, and "not a sociopath" isn't the sole defining trait of a good man.

>>720282367
I accept your concession.

>>720282380
>I didn't say he's a sociopath
>>720281252
>he turned into a sociopath.
>>720281626
>he is very much a sociopath.

>>720280509 (OP)
Safe sleazy 33

>>720282439
I didn't make those posts, anon. I very clearly said I'm not that anon >>720282191

>>720282439
Accept what you want, you are so fundamentally stupid you can't understand you are talking to multiple people.
Kill yourself, ESL. Verso will be proud.

Gustave, monoco and esquie are my homies. Sciel is my homegirl

>>720282493
>can't debate without seething and pissing himself
what shade of brown are you?

>>720282548
>n-no u
Sad.

>>720280509 (OP)
>WE MUST BE GENTLER MEN
MEANWHILE, THE GENTLER MEN:

>>720282595
Jews do this with a chicken because they believe it tricks God into forgiving their sins.

>>720282579
I'm not angry anon, you are, and anger is the sign of a low IQ individual, I ask again, what shade of brown?

>>720282668
Ahh, so they are gentler men as well

>>720282668
>jews commit sins, try to trick God and kill chickens.
Why are the like this?

>>720282708
No, they were the opposite of gentile men.

>>720280509 (OP)
you’re a good man Arthur

>>720282749
Unironically? They convinced themselves God appreciates lies, deceptions, and trickery, but ONLY if Jews do it. Their entire religion can be boiled down to believing they can rules-lawyer their way into Heaven.

>antisemitism out of nowhere
kys

>>720280509 (OP)
GET OUT OF MY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

>>720282825
Jew or Indian?

>>720280580
>>720280641
>>720280732
>>720280773
are these bot posts?

>>720282960
>t. Verso

>>720282960
>so buckbroken by his contrarianism, anon no longer can understand people appreciating things

>>720282960
>noooo, a character can't be universally loved!!
sad

>>720282960
Maybe but they are still accurate.

>>720280509 (OP)
Daily reminder to ignore women talking about masculinity in any capacity.

>>720283237
>Daily reminder to ignore women talking
fixed it for ya >>720280896

>>720281517
>so my sister uhhhhhh dies elsewhere I guess! Just not on my lawn!
but Maelle will die if the painting doesn't get destroyed, so in a way he wants to kill himself to save her, again

>>720280509 (OP)
I'm glad that testosterone is a natural repellant to being swayed by gay bullshit like this
Sorry, this only works on women and fags

>>720283553
>t. never played the game and made his conclusion from the existence of a video of a retarded female on youtube
that's the opposite of being masculine anon, you're not experiencing things by yourself, you let this female youtuber shape your opinion on this game, sad

>>720282960
Yes they're
Too similar too each other

>>720283004
>>720283056
>>720283056
>>720283079
>>720283083
All bots too
In short
Bot thread

>>720283423
Maelle can die from whatever. Maelle can step two centimetres outside from her world getting destroyed by her asshole fake brother whom she trusted three different times despite his lies after she specifically told him it will mentally scar her for life if he does it because she has lived in that world just as long as she has in the real world, and then proceed to hang herself because everyone she loves has been killed in front of her because she thought Verso was trustworthy.
Maelle states this so bluntly. She wants to choose how she dies, she wants to live her life with the people she has in this world, hopefully in the process finding a way to make Lumiere continue to exist elsewhere.
Verso disregards this and states she is just having a woman moment and she should just go out and paint more. This is in spite he knows for a fact - and the player knows - that Alicia's whole life in every instance of her existence has suffered by others making choices for her and disregarding what she feels by putting her on a pedestal.

No matter how you cut it, even if Maelle IS having a woman moment, what Verso is doing is disregarding what she wants, removing her choice in the matter exactly like Renoir did to Aline, and forcibly taking away the people she loves from her rather than trust she may change her mind at some point along the way - for no reassurance whatsoever that she will not just kill herself out of grief in a different painting.
>uhm but this painting is speshul because it has Verso's soul piece in it
Sure, and he's killing that too. Why in the world would destroying every possible trace of something someone loves help them move on in a world where they are crippled since the fire and depressed from the moment they were born?

>>720283702
>>720283661
You tried, you failed. Go back to the piano, Verso. And aim not to samefag next time. It's embarrasing.

>>720283734
>Maelle can die from whatever.
you know damn well what I meant by that, if she stays on the painting she has a 100% chance of dying before she turns 17, if Verso frees her from the painting, there's a big chance she lives until she's 80

>>720283645
>never played the game
Correct, I don't play modern video games
I was just talking about the gay OP

>>720280509 (OP)
And see where him being gentle got him

>>720281701
A good looking, but dumb and oblivious man, like Adrien from Miraculous

>>720283773
Realistically, Alicia would've hung herself after being ejected from the painting because her trauma went unresolved AND she just lost her outlet. But they're obviously not gonna make THAT an ending.

>>720283780
>I don't play modern video games
I don't either (t.fag who only play ps2/gc games) but I decided to give this game a chance and I wasn't dissapointed, as a fan of final fantasy X, this game is really a great jrpg game, you should really give it a try anon

>>720280509 (OP)
didnt play. looked gay.

>>720280972
If he was allowed to survive until the endgame he would probably gain admin rights and boot both Aline and her husband the fuck out.

>>720283773
Bitch, the woman would live +100-200 years inside the painting interacting with all the characters you have seen in the story, Gustave included, and you are somehow assuming that is a "100% chance of death"? Why the fuck would it be?
And even if it were, did you not read the rest of the post? It's her choice to live her life and die there if she wants to, and no, there is a FAR greater chance KILLING EVERYTHING SOMEONE LOVES AND RUINING THEIR SOLE SOURCE OF JOY will cause them to kill themselves or live a misrable life, than just letting them do whatever they want and be coached by their loved ones who actually care about them.

>>720283870
It's painfully straight despite the subsect of fans who really think Gustave and Verso were both gay and would fuck each other.

>making the world a better place starts with you being a better person
AHHHHHHHHH NOOOO! KEK KEK ONIONS KEK ONIONS ONIONS ONIONS!

>>720282960
>waaait a minute, does that person have... a different opinion?
>gotta be a trannie/faggot/black/brown/lefty/chud/bot

>>720283773
Did you even read the post before you answered at all? wtf

We must be better men.

>>720280509 (OP)
Where are you from, What subhuman language is this?

>twatter thread
Clean it up, pedo janny

>>720283834
Maybe in 10 or 15 years
Maybe.

>>720281178
The masks arent lying necessarily its hiding their true feelings out of weakness. Verso was scared to oppose his mother.

>>720283894
>Bitch, the woman would live +100-200 years inside the painting interacting with all the characters you have seen in the story, Gustave included, and you are somehow assuming that is a "100% chance of death"? Why the fuck would it be?
I don't think you understood the maelle's ending, she was already experiencing health degradation, she's not as strong as renoir or aline, she's still a teenager, she can't stay on that painting for too long, she'll die quickly from it
https://youtu.be/QEk75rd7hi8?t=634

>>720283981
You lost btw

>>720283953
It's japanese

We must be gentlemen.

>>720282960
Worse. They're Indians.

It's crazy how narcissistic sluts completely enamoured with online aesthetics will make an hour long video essay telling how you, a man with balls, vim and vigour, how to relate to your own masculinity.

>>720280509 (OP)
>about to kill himself at the first setback in the expedition
>dies like a bitch later anyway
There's nothing masculine about him

>>720284086
Ugh no, not one of you people. Fuck this, accept my concession or whatever you apes like to say. I am not going down your inane rabbit hole of room temperature IQ headcanon drawn from literal faux interpretation.

>>720283894
>It's her choice to live her life and die there if she wants to
she's still the child of Renoir and Aline, as a parent, would you let your kid sniff paint until they die because "it felt good", you wouldn't, this painting is a dangerous drug, that's the alegory of that game, and the game made it clear which ending is the better one

>>720284153
Masculinity is a social trait, people have to notice it for it to have any significant impact.

If I beat someone's face in within an inch of their life, and no one cares because they're just a poor little defenseless person, am I masculine?

>>720284180
Renoir very clearly does considering he accepts her staying in the end and seemingly makes no moves to force her out the way he did with Aline, so...

>>720284176
>literal faux interpretation.
are you fucking retarded? they said it on the fucking game
https://youtu.be/r1ppZs_tujI?t=9477
why am I wasting my time with low IQ retards like you?

>>720284153
>First setback
>Literally EVERYONE wiped out in front of you within nanoseconds of stepping down by one dude
Pretty sure that's just... a normal reaction.

>>720280509 (OP)
I'm 100% straight but I would make an exception for Gustave

>>720283883
I don't know, but he would have solved everything.
Of all the retarded things Verso did, letting Gustave die was the most retarded one.

>>720284219
>Renoir very clearly does considering he accepts her staying in the end
he didn't, once Maelle got ejected from the painting by Verso (Verso's ending), the first thing Renoir does is to burn the painting and destroy its world, he never trusted Alicia (as it should) and he would come to the painting again if Alicia decided to stay there for too long

>>720284296
It was smart of Verso, but in an underhanded way. He didn't want anyone standing between him and Alicia. Hilariously, Gustave probably would've been better able to convince her to leave and come back instead of staying forever,

>>720284176
Just stop answering the ESL. It's noticeable when it's him, dodge the bullet.

>>720284401
>don't fight that guy he's too strong
feelsgoodman

>>720284340
I'm talking about Maelle's ending, anon.

>>720284449
it doesn't change a thing retard, Renoir stays the same Renoir whether it's Maelle's ending or Verso's ending, do you seriously believe Renoir will let his child die just like that? he'll come to the painting again

>>720284490
That's speculation.

>>720284449
Just stop. It'll leave if you stop.

>>720284454
>Sophie fucked this
>but never let him cum inside

>>720284513
lmao, you're more retarded than I thought, Alicia made a pact with him, she said she'll leave the painting from time to time, and if she respect that pact, Renoir won't interfere, but on Maelle's ending, she didn't respect that pact at all, she stays in there and is killing herself, Renoir will come back to remind her that she has a pact to respect, what a low IQ retard you are
>>720284530
>samefag