Thread 720286827

Sega of Japan president bemoans weak Sega IP sales and says his restructure is existential: 'Our winning formula is no longer effective'.

chartwatching is gay nigga

>chart conveniently ends at 2024
now post the 2025 charts

>>720286827 (OP)
>>720281180

OP is a ff7 fangirl seething that square is bombing.

now post amy rose's panties

>>720286827 (OP)
the winning formula is to release persona 6

>>720286827 (OP)
Wilds rock whole world shocks

>>720286827 (OP)
How about they just make a good sonic game? How about that?

start making racing games again you faggots

Remember HYENAS

>>720287067
they have the disease warner brothers has where they refuse to make good content.

>>720286930
You posted a Barry thread. He hates all FF games except 7.

>>720286892
Look at their MMO & Gacha numbers it's more dead than FF11 and SE gacha.

Crapcom is still Crapcom

>>720287045
Wilds was shit and so was DD2 but nobody can deny that they sold well.

>>720286827 (OP)
>let's just rape Yakuza and slap Sonic on everything
>oh no why are we failing
>quick make another half-baked SMT remake
>outsource our MMOs production to some no-name gacha mobage studio

>>720287067
Why don't they make a chao garden mobile game or something like what the fuck is Sega doing with Sonic?

>>720286892
Let's see capcom exploded with millions sold with Wilds, plus the high hype around re9
And for Sega p5x has been on a steady decline and global is going in the same direction, nobody cares about sonic, the racing game won't be anywhere close to Mario kart success and the only stray they seem to have is to remaster the persona games and milk yakuza like the word saturation didn't exist
No I won't play another yakuza game that is exactly like all the other games before it just quirkier, no I won't buy a demake of persona, no I won't spend money on gacha trash, I love sonic but his games are bottom of the barrel tier/knockoff Mario tier

>>720286827 (OP)
Nice source.

>>720287164
Lol this killed Total War forever.

>>720287164
They also spent like 700m acquiring the creators of angry birds, really doubt that was or will be a profitable move.

>>720287387
What they've always done, wait for Nintendo to make a Mario game and copy it, but Nintendo is focused on other things

>>720286827 (OP)
how is capcom doing so well? all their releases are inferior sequels with no content and shit optimization

>>720287457
>Bloomberg
Can't get any more official than that.

Unlike some other chartfags posting PCgamer articles sponsored by Nvidia.

>>720287387
Zoomers will simply never understand the chao garden MUST be an add on to the main game, not some gacha shit on mobile. It wont work as a stand alone. It must be the incentive to replay stages. You can use a mobile app for the tiny chao garden if you must (though have fun after the mobile app is sunsetted after four years)

No wonder they're selling Sonic Racing for $70

>>720287067
Why the fuck wont they make a comix zone game
A golden axe game
An actual good streets of rage game
The actual sega IPs people like

>>720286827 (OP)
>line is clearly going up
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH THIS IS NOT UP ENOUGH

>>720288036
Unironically that's how shareholders think

Line isn't high enough = bad

>>720288036
Line is going for everyone, meaning they're stagnant little zoom zoom

the line cannot go up forever

>>720286827 (OP)
Where is quote from? Your ass? Whatever he is doing is currently working, the stock is the highest it's been in 20 years. SEGA is also currently the only major Japanese publisher who feels ambitious, I say that as someone who always thought sega was lame.

Mario kart world didn't last even a month, lmao!

>>720288174
you are one retarded nigger chimp

Nintendo India thread.

>>720286827 (OP)
>stock

fully reboot/support the following:
panzer dragoon
Golden Axe
Jet Set Radio
Chu Chu Rocket
streets of rage
phantasy star
puyo puyo
monkey ball
crazy taxi
valkyria
daytona usa
shining force
ecco the dolphin
sakura wars

i will now acknowledge sega's existence

>>720287573
It's propped up by remake hype and the reputation of their IPs like Monster Hunter and SF. But it has been catching up to them MH:Wilds was a disaster, people are slowly but surely getting remakeslop fatigue, SF6 is kind of shit too, I know fighting games are not doing well in general but SF has been on a steep decline since SF4. I think Capcom is slowly losing the goodwill they had with gamers, their strategy of pandering to westoid lunatics, censoring and neutering their games, outsourcing to jeets leads to subpar releases that have neither charm nor polish of their most iconic games.

Why do tendies become mentally deranged if a game doesn't come out for their 2013 tablet?

>>720287573
They aren't.
Wilds bombed and is now tanking the company.

>>720288593
>millions of sales
>bombed
what the fuck do these people want?

>>720288730
>ten million units in a month
>barely 100.000 sold since
Another ten million?

>shitcom outperforming despite the absolute slop they've been releasing lately

gaymers deserve to eat shit

>>720288780
10 million sales every month with an increasing 100k forever until the heat death of the universe seems like the only chart that would please these cunts

>>720288730
LINE
MUST
GO
UP

>>720288847
Notice how it stops at 2024.

>>720286827 (OP)
Bloomberg are a bunch of filthy kikes that abuse DMCA to protect themselves and their criminal partners from being exposed.

>>720286827 (OP)
>ignores the only relevant system in the market
>business flops
wow

>>720287321
Sales is the only thing that matter though
They are doing business here

>>720287407
Retard.

>>720286827 (OP)
How can you have a winning formula if you never won to begin with?

>>720286827 (OP)
what was SEGA's winning formula to begin with?
I assume most of their revenue came from PSO2 and they royally fucked it up with NGS

>>720287321
Dilate discord tranny

slowpoke.jpg
Their winning formula is called megadrive and it stopped being effective ages ago.

Sega is like nintendo but less evil and with fans less likely to eat the sloppa (except Sonic fans they're up there with pokemon fans)

>>720290308
They own anime studios and shows and make their money from pachinkos and educational software as well.

>>720287387
Sega themselves said chao garden is an adventure only thing (even though advance on GBA had it).

>>720286827 (OP)
After Sega harassed that poor subhuman norf I want them to be bankrupt but how is Sega making so little from 3 box office busting sonic movies? This seems like embezzlement to me. Either way Sega and Nintendo need to die

>>720291417
I'd say pokemon fans are worse, as sonic games will at least get mediocre scores. The problem is people still buy the games and let Sega get away with it.

>>720291625
The films were the only thing keeping sonic from flat lining. Assuming OPs graph shows the money from those, It'd be even worse without them.

>>720288036
They are basically in the same place they were ten years ago.

>>720286827 (OP)
>Our winning formula
Releasing 6/10 games?

>>720290041
>can't disprove facts
I accept your concession

>>720286827 (OP)
1. stop outsourcing your games to indies with a "yeah do whatever I don't give a shit" mentality and maybe your sales will increase, you dipshits. oh, and sonic fucking sucks now and since his debut in 3D despite the fervor from devout sonic fans. basically all of sega's IPs are in the fucking trash can and they only have themselves to blame because it's like they don't know what the fuck they want to do anymore.

>>720292837
When was the last time they outsourced beyond mania?

>>720293041
wonder boy
streets of rage 4
shinobi
and golden axe is next on the docket.

Sega is dead...
Nintendo won...

>>720293918
Nintendo won a long time ago anon

It's over... Sonic is dead...

>>720293041
Panzer Dragoon 2 remake and all of their remakes in general.
They're all absolute garbage.

>>720286827 (OP)
Surely more games with Denuvo will help.

>>720286827 (OP)
>Sega
>Winning formula
Someone tell him we are not in the 90s anymore

>>720294195
They need to stop outsourcing to forever entertainment, it is actually destroying their IP.

>>720286827 (OP)
>blackrock buys capcom stock
>capcom goes to shit
>look at charts guys number up!!!!

square & capcom are both fucked because both are infected by blackrock now. Dont know about rest

>>720287164
>join the -ACK!
What did they mean by this?

Just make /vbiz/ already holy shit.

>>720291625
>>720291828
Do they get a decent profit share from those movies?

>>720294963
No. Sega is bankrupt.

>>720286827 (OP)
isn't capcom the only company on that chart that is consistently releasing games? regardless of quality.

>>720295115
Square releases a ton of games but no one gives a fuck about them

>>720294938
because we need another board for faggots to spam /pol/bait in

>>720288036
The line must go higher.

>>720295174
Because they refuse to market anything not named Final Fantasy.

>>720287530
Angry Birds has multiple games plus two movies, Hyenas just has jokes at it's expense and "at least we're not Concord".

>>720295174
half of the "new" games are remasters of games ive never heard about for a price of a new game.

Loool poor sega

>>720297156
Nintendo won...

>>720286827 (OP)
>in its class
>see what "in its class" means
>it means "without nintendo"
LMAOOOOO

>>720288036
>line is clearly going up
Japan is going through massive inflation right now. The prime minister has to keep resigning because of it

>>720300072
I remember when when Japan was having deflation issues, good times.

>>720286827 (OP)
>chart shows continual upward growth
>guys this is no longer sustainable. time to start firing talent

What the fuck we keep making barely passable sonic games that only the diehard autismos who have been latched onto the brand for >15 years can tolerate and we are somehow not growing as a company

>>720300072
In such case it would be going down, but it’s going up in spite of that. But supposedly despite that it needs to go higher and higher and higher for no other reason than up = good, higher = better

>>720287530
they've already had the angry birds guys working on multiple mobile games, which was clearly the intention

>>720286827 (OP)
Give me Phantasy Star V

>>720287675
exactly, this "chao standalone game!" meme is always retarded
>play a stage (get items and rings, time passes in the garden)
>check out the chao garden
>repeat until you have all A ranks
It exists to break up monotony without becoming monotonous
When you play the chao garden by itself with item dupes/cheats to skip grinding stages what you end up with is a slow BORE

>>720286827 (OP)
>weak Sega IP sales
They literally only make Yakuza, Sonic and then rely on Persona 5 sales from Atlus. Kinda hard to have strong IP sales when you're only really using three of them

>>720286827 (OP)
Maybe they could have capitalized on the Sonic movie with an open world Sonic game that plays like GTA where you can "drive around the world" and maybe even cause mayhem. There's just something about a destruction derby formula.

>>720286827 (OP)
I still don't know who the fuck is this Samuel Sega

>>720301357
This is evil

there is no way capcom has more kane than the others

>>720286827 (OP)
Maybe they should put some thought into what they release. Why did they have a sequel to the Sonic movie come out without a Sonic game alongside it? Why haven't they kicked the barrels over at Atlus about P6 instead of letting them waste time and money on remakes of older games? Where's the new entries in classic series like Shinobi, Virtual Fighter, Streets of Rage, Total War, etc. Why aren't they releasing ports that people have been begging for like Skies of Arcadia or a Dreamcast collection? I feel like the Sonic racing game is the first Sega release I've seen in years outside of Atlus shit.

1. Publicly crucify Masayoshi Yokoyama and apologize to Nagoshi.
2. Release PSO3 that will not be using a 13 years old database that is now requiring 17 hours long maintenances just to narrowly avoid shitting the bed for good.

I wonder why

>>720286827 (OP)
what happened to their AAAA super game?

>>720311001
It's NGS
https://files.catbox.moe/61vzhl.mp4

>>720286995
Dogshit stuck in dev hell. Meanwhile the p5 gacha is already dead.

>>720286827 (OP)
>>720286930
Lol he copied it word for word
Why do FF fags have beef with Sega?

>>720311001
They're still testing the full-dive hardware. It'd be a problem if people started dying in real life if they died in the game, or got stuck in the game permanently.

>>720304767
Honestly, this is the core problem. Sega sitting on one of the richest back catalogs in gaming and treating it like a landfill. They’ve got IPs people would sell a kidney for-Jet Set Radio, Panzer Dragoon, Skies of Arcadia, even goddamn Golden Axe-and instead they hyper-focus on Sonic speedrunning into mediocrity every year. At least Atlus is coasting on Persona 5’s fumes, but it’s wild that a company with this many assets plays like it only owns three of them.

>>720311001
They haven't announced that the new virtua fighter is actually shenmue 4

>>720288036
Like half of the problems in the world are coming from investors uprooting society because the line is going up, but not fast enough

>>720312216
As a panzer dragoon and JSR fan none of those names hold any weight, they would also be dead at any other major publisher. If I was CEO of sega the only thing I would do is ask atlus if they wanted to make a panzer dragoon jrpg, if they said no i'd just keep the IP dormant along with the rest.

>Resurgence in character action games
>does fuck all with Shinobi, Golden Axe
>Resurgence in jrpgs
>does fuck all with Phantasy Star
>Resurgence in t-rpgs
>does fuck all with shining force, sakura wars or valkyrie chronicles
>No ports whatsoever of their newer arcade racing games

>>720312484
Unregulated growth for the sake of growth is literally the definition of cancer.

>>720312531
Yeah, and neither did the name Baldur's Gate until somebody had the bright idea to give it to a reputable studio who put some effort behind it. An IP like Shinobi, Phantasy Star, Panzer might be somewhat forgotten names currently but that can change at the drop of a hat with one good game.

I refuse to buy sega games because they put denuvo on them and never remove it even after like 8 years. sorry not sorry.

>>720317278
my man