Thread 720301478

Nintendo Just Patented Summoning:

This will affect not only Palworld but many games like Fromsoftware Souls on another platforms

No it wont. Shit tons of game mechanics are patented but most of us gamers never feel it.

Japan games are dead.
USA can also be taken by this but also shot down.
EU will be clear so make your games there.

>>720301625
Becomes most of those companies do nothing with patents but Nintendo sues

>Diablo
>Final Fantasy
>Terraria
>Elden Ring
I hope somebody calls them out

Can v name a single case of patents being used for the good? It seems like the most jewish thing ever

Shin Megami Transisters, out response??

>>720301478 (OP)
You can't patent summoning.

>>720301478 (OP)
Megami Tensei is older than Pokemon is explicitly about "summoning" rather than capturing. Who decides this shit?

>>720301797
>>720301478 (OP)
>>720301878
>>720301898
Go read the patent documentation. It's just nintendo patented ZA system.

>>720301478 (OP)
I just can't support UE slop games. They're so soulless. So even though the Pokemon Company has turned Pokemon to shit in the last decade with piss poor quality. I say fuck Palworld and current Pokemon.

>>720301898
>Who decides this shit?
Nintendo

>>720301974
Which is what? How is that different from summons in Elden Ring

>>720301478 (OP)
Gacha is basically summoning so this will be a shitstorm. Pokemon also arent summoned they are released from a device.

>>720301974
>>720302081
Going back to reading it, they seem to specifically say that it's for instances where you control the summoned creature after it enters a combat state, but outside combat, it moves around on its own. Specifically like the ZA game I guess. I swear other games have done this because though

>malicious patenting that stiffles competition
fuck shartendo

>>720301478 (OP)
Nintendo is the best company in the world and they deserve it.

>>720301795
Nintendo only sued for patent infringement 2 times in 45 years:
>Colopl, who was patent trolling and demanded ransom from other developers for using their patent. The court ruled that Nintendo's patent was first and Nintendo never asked for any money
>Pocketpair, who stole Nintendo's implementation of few mechanics because the CEO didn't know what patents are

>>720301478 (OP)
US courts won't strike it down because lol but EU courts have struck down many patents for 'lack of novelty'. If this system is old or existed in many previous games (Nintendo's or otherwise) then it won't hold up in court.

>>720302385
>You HAVE TO let me copy your homework! Otherwise you are maliciously stifling competition!
>What? I should do the homework myself and potentially get an even better grade? Of course my grade would be better, b-but I'm too lazy for that!

And you fat brownoids will still defend them
Fuck you all and Your fucking tablet with 2 (two) games

>>720302518
They're about to start suing a lot more

>>720302873
Did you know that games existed before Pokemon?
And that many of those games used gameplay mechanics?
Just because Gamefreak is adding actual gameplay for the first time doesn't mean they invented it.

HOLY SHIT NINTENDO IS FUCKING EVIL.
How do tendies or anyone justify giving them ANY money? How do you fuckers actually sleep at night?

Hopefully the Direct is just 60 minutes of reading out all of the dev studios that are being sued

>>720303067
>browns
>being able to afford a Switch 2 or games

Nice try macaco

That's just old fart suits mad with power.

Non Nitnendo games are not worth playing anyway

fucking lmao how is this company taken seriously

>>720301974
>It's just nintendo patented ZA system
Italian cuisine is fucking DONE

>>720301478 (OP)
I hope Nintendo burns to the ground
Literally
I want them all dead
Every single one of them

>>720301478 (OP)
The entire concept of patenting game mechanics has to be tossed out the window. I'm a tendie but nintendo can fuck itself on this point. They're just protecting gamefreak's garbage talentless studio.

>>720302518
>Nintendo only sued for patent infringement 2 times in 45 years:
What a very disingenuous and overly conditional way to downplay just how sue-happy Nintendo is. You are absolutely one of those "Tendies" /v/ likes to talk about

>>720302518
>stole Nintendo's implementation of few mechanics

>>720302518
adding stuff to patents just so you can sue a company after they've released a game should be illegal as should adding even more things to already existing patents after you've sued said company just to add even more charges.

>>720303341
what does nintendo even have outside bing bing wahoo, 5 fps palworld without guns and femboy zelda with breakable weapons and shit combat and 100 copy paste puzzles these days

>>720301898
Corruption

>>720301625
this is why everything feels the same nowadays

>>720302334
I mean Digimon World games had your Digimon follow you around outside of combat IIRC.

WoW Hunter pets follow you around outside combat, and in general most MMO's with pet classes do.

Probably lots of examples I don't know of.

>>720303319
Lmao you bought a toy with only 2 fucking games

>>720301478 (OP)
how can they patent something so generic? seems incredibly jewish to me.

>>720301625
This
They pretty much will only use these if you do something that offends them (like market your game off of mocking one of theirs).

>>720303319
>>720303067
90% of switch 2 sales came for nipponland, because the console is 300 bucks there. Also the switch 1 games look worse on the switch 2 than on the 5 fps console thanks to blurred upscaling. that thing is a pure trainwreck and thats why nintendo doesnt give out its dev tools for it

Isn't it time to destroy the copyright system though?

>>720301898
the person receiving money from nintendo

>>720301974
>ZA System

I hate patents, because some fucker we can't have back buttons on normal playstation and Xbox controllers

>>720303535
enlighten a nigga who knows nothing about this sue happiness

if you don't boycot nintendo in the current year, you are a cuck

>>720302873
If what you're patenting can be deduced by just using the product (aka playing the game), your patent is a fraud. It would be like being able to patent a painting technique or a chess move.

>>720301478 (OP)
Too bad they didnt patent being a fag so you would have to do something else

>>720304002
I swear people will never learn on the Internet despite it being incredibly clear that the Japanese make their shit for themselves. Gaijin filth is always an afterthought. The Japanese market has more than enough people and wealth flowing around to happily support these companies. They also don't really care about anything outside Japan so they are content as long as their wealth gives them control over the islands. Whenever a Japanese company expands overseas, they pretty much do it by vassalizing another company or setting up a branch staffed by the locals to fuck around and do whatever. The Japanese have been like this for over a thousand years so it is unlikely to change anytime soon. Honestly, things are better this way, gaijin are retards 7/10 times.

>>720302518
>"You would rather have a loaded gun pointed on everybody's head all the time?"
>"Well so far only 2 people got shot so it must be fine"
What kind of mentality is this?

>>720302334
>instances where you control the summoned creature after it enters a combat state
So it doesn't affect Palworld at all?

>>720303841
japs are the azn jews

>>720302642
The fact that Nintendo never lifted a finger against Temtem despite it being a pretty popular borderline 1:1 Pokemon clone tells you everything you need to know about how Nintendo's lawyers think their cases would fare in an EU court.

>>720304220
Nintendo will sue or C&D literally anything. They are very lawyer-centric. They very aggressively pursue and "protect" their IP. They would genuinely rather that you buy their games, hate their games, but continue buying them. They do not want anyone to enjoy their games as much as fans typically enjoy games.

They originally sued GameGenie for copyright infringement (note: not patent infringement; the anon I replied to is downplaying Nintendo with technical qualifiers) back in the day and lost. They also more recently went after the revenue of every person on YouTube who had uploaded a Nintendo Let's Play, and they copyright strike any YouTuber they become aware of who posts videos of Nintendo games that are modded in any way.

>>720301478 (OP)
based actually
jews won, japan is being flooded with jeets right now and soon there'll be no japanese left meaning nintendo will become a jeet company
i support nintendo and jews, will be buying the premium deluxe edition of legends za to accelerate jap cuck suicide

palworld is getting dog walked because it was "pokemon with guns" for years in early access

>>720304480
A perfect reason why indie games in Japan, outside of doujin circles, almost never exist. If corpo scums like Nintendo find a game to be any kind of threat to them, they’ll use their power to sue like yakuza shit.

>>720301478 (OP)
You already made this thread

>>720304958
>dog walked
what?

>>720301478 (OP)
Good. Fromsoft doesn't deserve the success it has and no one liked Digimon anyway

>>720305127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GiPcP30cFc

>>720304923
Chinese post

>>720305476
But it's in English...

>>720305476
seethe, takeshi
those birthrates are never going up again, jeets will be taking over your cucked shithole hahahahaha

>>720302334
It’s just the auto battling system from Scarlet and Violet, it doesn’t have anything to do with ZA

>>720304176
>pokemon stole turn based combat
>pokemon stole potions
>pokemon stole inventory
>pokemon stole save points
>pokemon stole monster capturing
>pokemon stole monster summoning
>pokemon stole leveling up
>pokemon stole tournaments
>pokemon stole elements
what else?

>>720305814
stole pedophilia and zoophilia

Aren't patents on gameplay mechanics basically a round about way for a monopol of certain genres?

>>720301858
It's just a way to pull up the ladder and make sure they can maintain their monopoly for as long as possible.
The tribe will argue that it protects the little guys idea but 9 times out of 10 it's used nefariously like this case.

>>720305862
Shhh, tendo can do no wrong

>>720304923

Nintendo has a 98% employee retention rate, there's no openings for the jeets to get in.

>>720302385
Keep flowing salty tear

Disney should revive Spectrobes so we can see the absolute clusterfuck that will ensue with Nintendo.

>>720304002
>90% of switch 2 sales came for nipponland
>Japan: 1.27 million. The Americas: 2.08 million. Europe: 1.34 million

Next cope, next cope!

>>720303406
this is an actual insane quote.
https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/wii/nsmb/0/3/
and holy fuck it's real and not a bait article??

>>720305936
and after those jap cucks die, there will be openings only for unqualified jeets
enjoy your low quality ninsloppa made by literal retarded jeets haha

>>720301625
>most of us gamers never feel it
the nemesis system from shadow of mordor and loading screen minigames in the sims 3 are both great concepts that other games can't use because it's patented

>>720301478 (OP)
Good, when are Nintendo going to pay back the ideas they stole from other games?

he's still melting down
incredible

Didn't SM64 steal shit from Croc devs without compensating them?

>>720302334
Raidoubros...... It's fucking over, we will never see King Abbadon remaster.........

>>720301974
>patenting pizza
Shitendo is worse than Hitler

>>720305814
missing the big one which is mounts

>>720304176
what game is that?

>>720304176
Iconic, as team Quintet later made Robopon 2, a true hidden gem unironically also made on 2chan

>>720304923
>flooded with jeets
erm actually the current PM stepped down and new one won't let them in maybe

>>720306529
Robotrek (Slapstick in Japan)

>>720301478 (OP)
>Palworld
>Digimon
>Final Fantasy
>Bayonetta
>Wow
Who else gets whacked

>>720301858
Patents are only good when they prevent bigger companies from stealing the little guy’s ideas. Because bigger companies have more capital and can reach economies of scale faster and develop the product faster yadda yadda. Doesn’t work the other way around.

>>720306096
Now control for per capita.

>>720301478 (OP)
Fuck nintendo, everybody should just agree to ignore their shit. Jews be mad.

>>720306784
Any CRPG and MMORPG I think.

>>720303169
You are a moron if you think they're gonna sue Square or Sega

>>720306784
it's just palworld

>>720306784
rip Silksong

>>720306784
Yugioh

>>720301478 (OP)
Isn’t that a problem for squeeeenix

I hope their game engines don't use proprietary software or gnu software or Nintendo might have issues.

Shitendo needs to be humbled hard for stepping out of line

>>720301858
Of course they're bad. It's a way for the rich to pull up the ladder behind them.

Palworld devs here, here's a sneak peek on a new pal that's coming to the game soon, it's a totally original design and has nothing to do with our competitors, it's called "Snarlox", please don't sue, we worked hard on this one.

Ive said it a million times before, and I'll say it again; the concept of "intellectual property" inevitably devolves into thought policing, because that's exactly what it is, and that's the only way to enforce it.

inb4 some dipshit communist thinks I'm on their side

>>720306216
>>720303319
It's not even Thursday and you're already melting down over your boogeymen.

>>720308085
Looks based. I hope Nintendo gets fucked.
t. Gen 2 5 chad

>>720305623
You really think Microsoft or Square Enix will proactively attempt to legally fuck Nintendo in the ass? They are just gonna sit idly by as Nintendo absolutely buck breaks Palworld

Nintendochads, I kneel...

>>720308085
Is this the best bait pokedrones can come up with?

>>720302334
literally half of mmos ever, every RPG with a summoning class, Digimon World, Terraria, Castlevania, D&D and probably many more.

>>720306546
QRD?

>>720308672
>Nintendo chads I kn-ACK
https://www.nexusmods.com/palworld/mods/1942

>>720302334
ZA mechanics are just the Arcanist's kit from Final Fantasy XIV.

Palworld isn't the good guys here.

>>720309167
...in the eyes of Nintendo.

>>720301478 (OP)
How often does the patent holder lose a lawsuit in US courts?

>>720308606
Nintendo trying to take on Microsoft in US courts would be hilarious. Not only is Microsoft worth about 30x what Nintendo is their ties to the US government would make Nintendo and all their Yakuza friends tip their hats in respect. Microsoft could do to Nintendo what Nintendo always tries to do to regular people and just bleed them endlessly in court costs.

>>720309167
Saar do not redeem the Palworld saar

>>720301478 (OP)
nintendo is such a scumbag company, just when i think they can't sink any lower the jap fucks just keep dragging their reputation through the mud, i have nothing but horrible things to say about nintendo as a company and the people who work their are dirtbags.

>>720309214
And Microsoft is Israel best ally, the Jews would fuck them so hard it's not even funny kek

>>720309294
Here>720309202
is your saar. Attempting to defend Microsoft. Saars don't work for Nintendo like they do Microsoft.

Nintendo should patent video games.

>>720309470
Yeah, they created them after all.

>>720309206
Literally never.

>>720301478 (OP)
to infringe this patent a game needs to do every single one of these:
>be a video game
>in which you directly control a player character
>and can summon a second character
>which, when summoned on top of an enemy, automatically starts a battle
>which you can directly control
>but which when not summoned on an enemy, moves around without being directly controlled
>but can be sent in a specific direction
>and when doing so causes it to bump into an enemy, automatically starts a battle
>which you don't directly control and instead is resolved automatically
It's an US patent, which has to be much more narrow than japanese ones to be accepted

Nintendo should patent my dick since I will never use it

End these shitty steam greenlight tranny games Nintendo! Restore the order that PC has destroyed!

Immediately BTFO'ed by controllable summons in Final Fantasy X

>>720304220
Nintendo sued far more people than the media reported but you never heard of them because they all settled with NDAs

>>720309515
Based, video games started with the NES
>But-
NO!

>>720302334
So final fantasy 12 & 13

>>720309549
It doesn't matter. Patents like this should not exist period. If you want to patent your code that controls all of that fine. But to say you own the concept itself is fucking wrong and should not be allowed.

>>720309549
im really starting to despise japanese people because of nintendo 2 nukes wasn't enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIuKsmxO6qQ

>destroyed FOTM chink shitters
>proceeds to destroy Fromsloppers and the millions of rollslop clones
Nintendo could not be more based, holy shit. Is it too late to patent MTX and trannies in video games too? Nintendo cleaning the industry, one fraud patent at a time.

I will ask a local mufti to issue a fatwa against nintendo

Patent is 12403397
It's so specific, you would have to work hard to actually infringe on it.

>>720309521
Dang, shame

>>720301625
You will now.
If there's one company that you don't want to anger, it's Nintendo.

>>720304885
>nothing about patented mechanics

So who's your favorite Pal, /v/?

>>720309849
Every time you point out what the patent actually is the people making these threads just ignore it and keep to their spiel so I can only assume they’re either 3rd worlders that can’t parse the information or Pocketpait employees

>>720308871
This, we all know that Pocketpair would never have told the AI to change Snorlax's color.

>>720304885
holy based 'tendo trying to clean up trash

>>720308606
Not them, but I'd think SEGA, Capcom, and Bamco would want to, at least, try to defend themselves.

>>720310035
>I-it's AI!!!
Lmao cope

>>720308085
>still butthurt a year and half later
The gift that just keeps giving.

>>720310020
I really like the spooder

>>720310178
you've been having this specific thread for at least 20 hours straight now
nintendo's gonna keep winning and you're gonna keep seething

>>720301478 (OP)
these patents literally only exist to harm palworld
they aren't going after other games that use these mechanics or features
they simply cannot make a better (or should i say, more enjoyable) monster collector game, so this is their response
they didn't go after digimon or yokai watch
they only went after palworld because it's pretty much what pokemon fans have been asking for: a monster tamer that feels like an evolution to the series
it's like slapping some features from botw to pokemon and making it significantly better, which is pretty much what palworld does (and why it feels similar to legends arceus)
it helps that pocket pair is a japanese company, so it's easier to bully them until they are forced to drop support for the game
they won't go after honkai nexus anima or roco kingdom world, both chinese monster tamer games which also have some features that pokemon does
pocket pair fucked up by setting up their base in the cucked shithole japan where nintendo is like a religion to the cattle

So, when is Atlus going to sue Nintendo for copying their creature/monster/demon mechanic?

or more directly, when is the rest of the japanese gaming industry going remember their yakuza roots and put hits out for the family members of the board to get them to not collapse their country's economy?

>>720309849
>Patent is 12403397
Just checked it https://gamesfray.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/US12403397B2-2025-09-02.pdf
The algorithm specifically mentions balls with throwing animations and monster summoning. So indeed doesn't affect any other games like MMOs with summons. Pokemon is the only game that does it. Even Palworld no longer uses pokeballs so Palworld is not affected by this patent.

>>720309849
>make a game that doesn't exactly match the patent but has most of the features and mechanics
>ninpedo alters the patent later on
>ninpedo brownjeets start defending their favorite goyslop company with the usual "SAAR YUU IS NOT LISTENS TO PATENT YUU BLADDDY BASTRAD COPY!"

>>720310295
>these patents literally only exist to harm palworld
I wonder why that is... could it be?!
could they be the only ones actually infringing on anything?!?

and if palworld feels like an "evolution to pokemon" I'm sorry to tell you,
you may have brain damage

>>720303406
>raffs

Cyberpunk is here.

>>720301625
>most of us gamers never feel it
because the consequence is absence.
if they banned atlantidean food before it ever comes to the us, you wouldn't miss it either because it's not taking away something you have, it's taking away something you might have had. you won't ever know, but it might have been your favourite thing.
same discourse as "what if my soulmate has been aborted?". you just won't ever know, but you might've had a completely different life.

>>720301478 (OP)
>This will affect not only Palworld but many games like Fromsoftware Souls on another platforms
No, no it won't.

>>720309294
I thought palworld were the indians.

>>720303535
>What a very disingenuous and overly conditional way to downplay just how sue-happy Nintendo is.
Okay, name one time that it wasn't responsive.

>>720310674
They are. That's why there are so many shills here.

>>720308085
It should look like the TF2 Heavy.

>>720310659
>t. Nintendo lawyer

give it a couple decades and japan will be flooded with jeets and they won't do shit (kek)
i think turning ninpedo's hq into a designated shitting street might just be the most genius move in history, courtesy of based jews

>>720308606
Two more weeks, sister!

>>720310279
What a cope.

>>720310020
There are many great pals, but I still like Flambelle the best.

>>720301478 (OP)
Personafags?

>>720311017
fastest selling console of all time
no one gives a fuck about your chink knock-off lawsuit

>>720303341
Based

>>720304176
Also Ninokuni kek

>>720306845
And the only good situation happens because familiarity with the legal system is something that larger financial leverage doesn't actually provide?

>>720311086
hahahahaha

will square enix finally go bankrupt as their final fantasy series since 1991 have been using summons
is chocobos a summon too?
is digimon illegal now?
is summoning a pet in world of warcraft illegal?

>>720310890
Other way around.

>>720309641
Kek didn't SE want to remake FFX? Hell FFXIII Remaster was leaked

>>720304176
NINTENDO
SUE THESE MEN

>>720311162
that's just the truth of the matter
you think the newest pokemon isn't gonna sell because of this crap?
get real buddy

>>720309793
But a lot of Nintendo fans are trannies, check out fire emblem and Splatoon fandom

>>720302334
atluscucks btfo!

>>720311276
You do realize you're arguing with yourself, right?

>>720310607
>because the consequence is absence.
Oh not at all, the consequence is innovation. After all a patent doesn't work like a copyright where you prevent anyone from using that idea, it prevents people from using that specific implementation of an idea. If it worked the way you thought it did then we wouldn't have the combustion engine.
>if they banned atlantidean food before it ever comes to the us,
He meant us as in you, me, them etc., not the United States. But I will add that patents are regional so something registered in Europe for instance would need to be registered in America and Japan to be applicable in those regions.
>same discourse as "what if my soulmate has been aborted?".
That's kind of messed up but then again so is the idea of a soulmate to begin with.

>>720301478 (OP)
Based!
This will make the industry more creative. It's overall a positive thing. The less slop trying to copy ideas, the better.

>>720310461
You are either full of shit or didn't read. The ball parte is just an example and the patent talks about any action in general performed which the system could associate with moving the sub character to the designated coordenates

>>720311386
I mean that's on brand for this thread then, isn't it

>>720311450
But Nintendo copied others

>>720311189
They're Indians because there aren't a lot of shills?
You know that doesn't make sense, right?
Plus it's not like palcucks aren't doing a mass rejection of reality here.

>>720309849
>>720310031
Read it. Its not specific at all.

>>720311313
Nintendo doesn't cater to them, nor do they add them in games.

>>720310020
She.

>>720311313
There's almost no active trannies in those groups especially in the latter after Nintendo banned the few that would crop up.

Huh, maybe that's why there are so many anti-tendies lately. They're all disgruntled because Nintendo won't acknowledge them.

>>720311628
Check out Splatoon online

>>720311562
>nor do they add them in games.

>>720311560
Saying it isn't doesn't erase the small book's worth of mechanical detail regarding interactions and several diagrams.

I wonder how much pocketpair is paying you for this damage control?

>>720311170
Only summons affected by input the player gives the main character so it doesn't really affect FF besides FFXI and XIV. Maybe XV?
But yeah, no more Digimon World, MMOs, ARPGs and whatnot

>>720310310
Why do you think the Yu gi oh guy died?
You don't believe it was just a mere ocean shark do you?

>>720311716
>especially in the latter after Nintendo banned the few that would crop up.
Read anon, read. They haven't been there since the first month of each release.
Every time they try to invade they fail spectacularly.

>>720301478 (OP)
Makes sense, Nintendo is being mogged even by gachas so now they have to pull a Disney

>>720311735
>mechanical detail regarding interactions and several diagrams.

Literally 90% of that is explaining Switch 2 hardware lmao. Its just flavor to confuse and obfuscate

>>720311562
>Nintendo doesn't cater to them

>>720311732
Nice example of a localisation fuckery but how is that relevant?

>>720301478 (OP)
I don't think you can patent gameplay mechanics.
Someone would have patented FPS by now.

>>720301478 (OP)
>This will affect not only Palworld but many games like Fromsoftware Souls on another platforms
No it won't. It's just something for them to bust it out the next time an indie studio humiliates their most precious IP.

>>720311450
Not really, they are just screwing over other japanese companies while chinks and gooks can get away

>>720311821
Good to know you can't read past the first two paragraphs. Regardless that proves the point since it's needed to give context to that 90% you didn't read.
>to confuse and obfuscate
Maybe for midwit twitter and tiktok users but for normal well adjusted people? Not so much.

elton john should sue nintendo for being gayer than him

>>720311870
>localisation fuckery
VIvian is a tranny in Japan too.
WTF are you talking about?

>>720301478 (OP)
Without even reading the details I feel like this is going to be that Zelda momentum patent where everybody complains about Nintendo having something extremely broad but then the actual details of it are so specific rather than "Call of Duty patents a genre about shooting a gun from a first person perspective"

>>720301478 (OP)
Nintendo is a fucking disgrace to this industry.

while timmy and takeshi are eating each others ass and cum defending nintendo, a million paajeets are sent every day to their countries
i want to personally thanks jews for making this happen

>>720312002
>VIvian is a tranny in Japan too.
Vivian is 100% a man in both the original and remake. Only the localisation made him trans.
Get over it, Nintendo isn't catering to you.

>>720312050
That's how it always is. You know how anti-Nintendo shitposters are.

>>720311461
Patents are supposed to be as precise and concrete as possible. They were already rejected before, they had to add this detailed description to get the patent.

I'm never going to play anything Nintendo related in my life again.

>>720307325
They'll only go after smaller devs who can't fight back

>>720312097
>Vivian
>100% a man
>name: VIVIAN

>you can freely change a patent mid patent lawsuit to whatever suits your case
What's the fucking point then?

>>720304402
When will the first Jew try to patent the wheel?

>>720312250
Correct, did you also know that Michelle is a name given to boys in France?

Blizzard just patented trooning out

>>720311898
Hell Capcom would be RICH if they patented the camera on shoulder system

>>720303535
And yet you cannot name a single time they have sued major game companies for patent infringement. What a pathetic pig raping faggot you are.

>>720312294
Simple, you can't freely change a patent mid lawsuit to whatever suits your case.
You are a victim of manipulation my friend, most likely because you're not very smart.
Anyway, you can only reword it not completely change what it pertains to.

All this could have been avoided if Palworld devs had talent, made a different type of game and didn't copy Nintendo.

>>720311562
>Fogato
>type a and b

>>720312384
Nah, someone would just do it another way like 90% of patents. They'd only get a meagre amount from uncreative developers like pocketpair.

>>720312209
I will play their games, but they won't get a cent from me. Hope they patent breathing next so their supporters kill themselves

>>720312384
>Capcom would be RICH if they patented the camera
Kojima invented camera, so Capcom wouldn't get anything.

>>720312478
They never had talent in the first place, their first game was more of the same bullshit.

>>720302334
Nintendo btfoing themselves

>>720312546
Actually it was Sega with Virtua fighter.
They still own the patent.

>>720312321
>Every version, including japanese, has vivian call himself a tranny
>"No it's just localization"
kek

>>720312478
GameFreak and Nintendo should also learn how to make good games instead of cheap cash grabs.

>>720311564
Cute

This is revenge...

Is Bintendo suing Bandai or do they just go after smaller studios?

>>720312678
>doubling down after being told it was only in the remake localisation
You really are desperate for representation in Nintendo games aren't you.

>>720312730
Kek that tendie got utterly blown the fuck out

>>720312839
Bamco is several magnitudes bigger than Bingtendo.
I wish they would

>>720312730
I wonder if he regrets making that post. I mean, he clearly wanted to make it this big anti-Nintendo meme but then Nintendo actually sued pocketpair and now they're mocking him.

>>720312839
There's no reason to go after Bandai, they aren't infringing on any patents.

>>720312730
Made that screencap a while back. While I haven't changed my opinion on the matter, the error with February 2nd instead of the February 12th makes me slightly cringe whenever someone posts the original version of it.

>>720312903
How are you defining bigger? Because bamco make about 2 to 4bn less than Nintendo per year.

>>720308085
Nobody is getting sued over similar designs. If that was enough, Nintendo wouldn't need this patent troll BS.

>>720312730
>Hot Chillet in your area
W-where exactly

>>720301625
>No it wont. Shit tons of game mechanics are patented but most of us gamers never feel it.
i feel it every time i stare blankly at a loadscreen when there could be a minigame on that loadscreen

>>720312478
>>720312621
>Samefagging
Sad

So many blatant tendies upset in this thread.

Nintendo is not your friend. They'd sue you if you liked their games too much.

>>720313154
It is sad isn't it.
You're so loyal to the palworld brand that you can't even conceptualise a world where two people dislike pocketpair.

Does it make you upset?
Does it rustle your jimmies?

>>720313040
They are the biggest toy maker in Japan.

>>720313447
>Admits to replying to himself on mobile
Kek tendies keep on losing

>>720312250
>t. Jerid

>>720301625
Shadow of Mordor's nemesis system would be in most action games these days if it wasn't for the patent.

>>720313567
It's unfortunate that you doubled down because I have no WiFi access, just data.
I couldn't samefag if I wanted to especially since the airplane mode reset trick would give me the 120 timer.

Learn how 4chan works and you won't get btfo'd like this.

>>720301478 (OP)
This patent will only ever be used against Pokémon inspired games that gain any sort of notoriety. We won't hear about it again for 10-20 years.

>>720310020
This brat.

>>720313762
>Seething tendie got found out
>Doubles down on retardation
Lmao

>>720301478 (OP)
Chinese corps will do it anyways and laugh in their face.

>>720313954
>This patent will only ever be used against games that copy something exactly from pokemon that are brought to Nintendo's attention.
Ftfy.

>>720301478 (OP)
I say the USA should do what China does: tell Japanese patent-holders and IP-holders to go fuck themselves to rein in on patent trolling.
A small part of me want Nintendo taken over by the Japanese Imperial Family in hopes the patents will get declared open-source gifts to humanity.

>>720314412
I'll take that as a consession it's not like you can continue defend palworld anymore.

>>720306784
Fable
Dark Souls
Minecraft

>>720314717
It's a Japanese case and not only does patent trolling only happen in America due to their lax laws but it happens with local, smaller entities, not companies overseas.

>>720314748
Stay mad ninten-drone

>>720312167
Sorry about it then. But the main point stands, There is one page describing the feature and ten describing Switch 2 tm

>>720312981
Could you repeat that without having your Nintendo branded dildo in your mouth?

>>720313731
>>720313089
Do these ever expire?

>>720315101
What? If anything that was defending bamco.

I just want to see AI assetflips burn.

>>720315797
Patents expire after 20 years. The loading screen minigame one expired years ago.

>>720303616
> should be illegal
It is. In every country with a *vaguely* functional judiciary system.
The US does clear that very, very low bar.
Japan and its "Yes I sent this innocent man to jail, because otherwise it would dishonor the work our policemen did" mentality, doesn't.

Their courts don't care at all about facts, only about which result would bring the less shame to the nation. Nintendo being basically a major house in the country mean they get away with garbage that would have been instantly rejected it was coming from someone else, simply because bitchslapping a major Japanese group is simply impossible in japanese mentality.
That said, they are about to lose that trial against pocketpair, so I guess the judge deemed that their "edit the patent after the trial started" trick was way too dishonorable after being made public, and thus brought the "path of least shame" in the other direction.

>>720301478 (OP)
Reminder that if you paid $80 on the latest bing kart + $500 on shitch 2, you certainly helped pay for this.

>>720315992
>That said, they are about to lose that trial against pocketpair
God I hope so. Nintendo needs a major L to stop doing this shit.

>>720315992
>In every country with a *vaguely* functional judiciary system.
It's also illegal in Japan and far more strict that European and American patent law. Which is why you have to lie about it

>>720302518
>Pocketpair, who stole Nintendo's implementation of few mechanics
Like what? The pal orbs don't function like pokeballs because your throwing actually matters.

>>720316014
I don't buy nintenbro, but I did get two of my friends to buy Palworld on release.

>>720315992
>That said, they are about to lose that trial against pocketpair
Uh, you know pocketpair running out of arguments was the reason they had to reword the patent, right?
They certainly aren't winning this.

>>720301858
when it's an induvial's patent and not some corporation's

>>720316014
Huh maybe I should actually buy it then if my money is going towards an industry free of uncreative scum

>>720315797
There are extensions but they are exclusively reserved for big pharma.

>>720316361
So you're defending patent trolls.

>>720315883
>Patents expire after 20 years. The loading screen minigame one expired years ago.
Then why do we not have loading screen minigames?

>>720315992
>japan is literlally le cyperpunk
>but also this corporation is about to lose in court
the cognitive dissonance is palpable

>>720306784
>Shin Megami Tensei
>Dragon Quest Monsters
>Robotrek/Slapstick (might whack Nintendo instead)
>Robopon
>Fenix Rising
>Genshin Impact
>Terraria
>Monster Hunter Stories
>Dynasty Warriors
>Shadow of Colossus
>League of Legends
>Telefang
>Aniimo
>How to Tame Your Dragon
>Volzerk (EoS, tho)
>Monster Sanctuary
>The Elder Scrolls
>Nexomon
>Spectrobes
>Monster Rancher
>Coromon
>Yo-Kai Watch
>Fossil Fighters
>Monster Crown
>Fairy Fencer F
>Horizon
>Medarot
>every single MMO with mounts or attacking pets

>>720316498
Well load time for most games are short nowadays so there's no point. Also no one wanted to do them in the first place, the nature of a patent is that they don't prevent people from using that idea just how the one who patented it did it and because Namco had one for changing the game to a completely different one anyone could have just made an original minigame, like how Bandai did for the Budokai games, this is before they purchased them by the way.

But yeah loading times getting shorter was half the reason peooke stopped.

>>720316267
Based

>>720316498
Presumably because either loading screens are much shorter, or people decided it was better to just hide the loading screens.

>>720316708
>>720316720
Fuck that. Artificially lengthen loading screen so people can play my fun minigames.

>>720316367
i doubt you have the money to afford it, rajesh

>>720316784
Or they could just put the minigame in.

Is she the mascot of Palworld now?

>>720316872
I mean you're not wrong. I dropped serious cash on an mgex unicorn, pg unicorn and susanowo souen and a DX Decadriver this month. I need to calm down with the purchases.

At least I'm not an Indian spending his time defending pocketpair

None of you understand patent law or actually read what it entails, much like the previous patent for capturing. Once again a bunch of screeching sony-drones getting feisty because "Nintendo bad".

>>720301974
>>720301625
with retards this early in the thread I don't think there will be any worthwhile discussion here
>>720309005
>nexusm--ACK

>>720302334
Yes, but do you think any of these knuckle-dragging apes at the patent office know or give a shit?

>>720301478 (OP)
Patent engineer here.

The US patent system is very lax, they will grant patent for just about anything you submit. Rumour is the patent office people gets bonus for how many patents they grant. But when it comes to patent enforcement, if you are defending all you need is a single public domain example that predate the patent filing to void the whole patent, and thus lose the court case.

For example, I could probably file a patent submission today for a boob slider, and chances are they will grant it. However if I want to sue anyone for designing a game with a boob slider today, all they have to do is find a single game with a boob slider from before I filed my patent, and they would automatically win the case. So while I hold the patent, it would be unenforceable.

>>720311735
I wonder how much Nintendo is paying you for damage control?

>>720316938
Pretty much yeah

>>720317143
Everyone already knew that the US patent Office is shit. It's why Nintendo is always targeted by US patent trolls.

The Ultraman company can do the funniest fucking thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iESYl4Lvr9U

>>720316938
>she

>>720317239
I doubt toei wants to fuck with Nintendo let alone for a case where they would just die immediately.

>>720302873
Ok bro time to do your homework. HOWEVER I've patented "tree-based material squares upon which writing is done" and "graphite and wood sticks that you rub on shit to make marks" and "tubes full of ink that make marks on shit" and "rubbing stuff on other stuff to make marks" and "putting together letters to make words". Good luck.
Oh and dont forget the teacher worships me and if you get around my rules but i don't like it, we'll add more rules to retroactively affect your work.

How is it fucking legal to patent video game content?
It's effectively the same shit as for example patenting some movie or novel twist.

>>720317339
Ultraman isn't Toei. Ultraman is Tsuburaya. And they're literally listed by Satoshi himself as being the inspiration behind Pokemon as a whole. Evidence. And Tsuburaya's been using Capsule Monsters since 1967. They can win this case.

>>720317247
Yes

>>720316938
>she

>>720317545
Oh so papyrus, crayon rubbings and fountain pens are fine?
Cool bro

>>720317620
Same dif they'd still lose because they don't own the concept of monsters in balls. No one does.

>>720317545
Damn, OP blown the fuck out

>>720317620
>Evidence
Okay? You have proven that Tajiri used the broad concept of monsters in balls.
Where's your proof that they infringed?

>>720317545
>HOWEVER I've patented "tree-based material squares upon which writing is done" and "graphite and wood sticks that you rub on shit to make marks" and "tubes full of ink that make marks on shit" and "rubbing stuff on other stuff to make marks" and "putting together letters to make words".
That's okay bro, I have some hemp paper which doesn't come from a tree, charcoal rubbings a quill and I'll just put together letters to make a sentence.

Oh and the teacher told me you can only change your rules to make it clear, not actually change the rules.

The concept of patenting video game mechanics seems so retarded why is it allowed

>>720316498
Because if you have an SSDs, loading screens barely last a handful of seconds.

>>720318180
Based. Wixen is the best.

>>720318340
because IP law is an affront to God and common sense

>>720302518
How does that work? Thought you had to defend your patent or it gets thrown out.

>>720318340
Greed. All intellectual property law is framed as protecting poor starving artists, but in reality it's all designed as a mechanism for wealthy people/corporations to rig the game so that they don't need to create anything new and can just milk their old stuff and purchase other stuff that less wealthy people create.

WTF!? how will I summon my blue eyes white dragon?????

Patenting game mechanics is the gayest thing ever and it's absolutely ridiculous that you can just do that if you're a big enough company.

>>720317883
Where's Nintendo's that Palworld did it?

>>720318340
It's allowed because majority of them are unenforceable both because they're not specfic in description and also the pr backlash
A patent office will be glad to take money and say
>uh huh sure thing pal. You totally own this unoriginal idea 30 other games have done before now. It will hold up in court don't worry about it

>>720316784
>>720316708
>>720316873
I have an better idea to atleast provide some level of justification for loading screen minigames, provide an button prompt to continue once it has finished loading instead of immediately jumping into it.

>>720318180
that belly on the 2nd pic

>>720318530
>and common sense
Unfortunately common sense leads to protection of ideas.

>>720319147
Well, their evidence is a little unknown game called Palworld. I don't think you've heard of it.

>>720309947
>You will now.
This, say goodbye to monster hunter stories, summoning in souls games, summons in final fantasy, fighting games where you can summon characters to temporarily replace yours, yokai watch, digimon games, magic the gathering games, hunters and necromancers in mmorpgs and arpgs, and a long list of more things I can't remember now.

Parents are gay turbocapitalist trash.

>>720319252
By the by that's only how the American office works. That's why patent trolling is practically exclusive to America.

Nintendo also patented proximity chat
>friendslop sisters....

>>720301478 (OP)
Honestly, should patents for video games even be a thing?

No one patented turn-based combat, or ragdoll physics. Valve didn't patent the gravity gun. Why the fuck would shit like summoning a specific way or minigames during loading screens be patented?

>>720318340
>why is it allowed
Because believe it or we don't live in a world where other people can be trusted not to steal ideas from others and undercut them while also selling at a premium.
It's why every major society in history has had some form of IP law.

>>720319868
Nintendo Patented 2.5D too
>nostalgia pixel shit sisters....

>>720301625
non enforcement of a patent can be used as grounds to invalidate a patent

>>720319879
>No one patented turn-based combat,
Square patented ATB so you're already wrong.
>Why the fuck would shit like summoning a specific way or minigames during loading screens be patented?
To spurn innovation and allow creators to make their money back on their innovation and R&D.

>>720319879
patents shouldn't be a thing.

>>720301478 (OP)
how?
some inventor was denied a patent for a ship raising tech because Scrooge McDuck did it in some old ass comic, but Nintendo gets to ignore prior uses??

>>720319956
You really believe thats why IP laws exist? For shame.

>>720302334
I can't believe Digimon World is fucking dead.

>>720306784
>Who else gets whacked
Aside of those that already got replied, the patent fully aligns with picrel

>>720302642
sad but true
first pokemon was 29 years ago
but americans still think the internet is a series of tubes and television is magic

>>720319505
Good taste

So, if Nintendo decide to patent Healing, they can and fuck almost all games created? What the fuck is this futuristic dystopia shit?

>>720320286
Whether you want to believe it or not doesn't matter because that's how they function. As it is you can't use it maliciously in a country with a good court system ie anywhere that isn't America.
If they worked the way you believed they do we'd be living in a world with Pokecrea, Creature Hunter or Creature Musume.

>>720320016
No it can't.
Companies publicly vow not to enforce their patents all the time, usually in patent pools. But they still own the patents.

The only form of intellectual property this can apply to is trademarks, which aren't usually considered creative works themselves and are primarily protected for practical reasons (avoiding consumer confusion).

>>720320432
>if Nintendo decide to patent Healing, they can and fuck almost all games created?
No. Assuming they could patent healing they could only patent their method of healing. So say, let's go with pokemon healing at a pokemon center and it's only for six party members, final fantasy inn healing would be fine as would any other method.
>What the fuck is this futuristic dystopia shit?
Your imagination.

>>720303396
Don't worry anon, I laughed at this joke

>>720320286
That's how it started. The intentions were good. Just because it's an unfunny joke these days doesn't change the concept of IPs and patents can't be used in good faith.

>>720320432
>What the fuck is this futuristic dystopia shit?
it's called 'schizophrenic delusions'

>>720320498
If the originals are good then "copied" releases are of no concern. But then this is why Nintendo is so afraid of Palworld.

Don't like it? Should have thought to patent it then. Nintendo is going to be able to go after a lot of companies blatantly infringing on their patents now.
Don't hate the player hate the game.

>>720320285
>but Nintendo gets to ignore prior uses??
How many times do we have to explain to you that Nintendo is part of the Japanese Government, everything they do is backed by the entire nation of Japan. They will never play by the same rules as regular people, they get to do whatever they want.

>>720320432
Three options are plausible:
1. Some nodev retard patents healing and fucks all the video games (previous status quo)
2. Nintendo patents healing and fucks all the other video games (current status quo)
3. Picture related

>>720301898
Why does it matter who did it first?
They do not have the patent. Nintendo does.

>>720320525
>Companies publicly vow not to enforce their patents all the time, usually in patent pools. But they still own the patents.
Reading comprehension anon. While patents and copyright ownership isn't affected, trademarks can by the way, failure to defend can be used as an argument to invalidate future court cases the best example being Tommy Wiseau vs the disaster artist, I think that's what the documentary was called. Either way the case was about people selling the documentary that used footage of The Room and Tommy argued it was infringement however the case was thrown out because the movie was available publicly on sites like YouTube for years and Tommy did nothing to defend it.

That's how it works and you've been lied to by people who want to strip you of your right to own ideas.

>>720312002
And who hires the localizers? Retard.

>>720306784
Devil May Cry

>>720320689
>If the originals are good then "copied" releases are of no concern
Not how that works because people don't look at the quality, if they did then you wouldn't be here defending Palworld.
>But then this is why Nintendo is so afraid of Palworld.
Oh they aren't afraid, they're obligated to do so or it could affect potential future arguments.
That's also why Nintendo opts to settle in most of their cases, they don't particularly care about anything other than their own ownership of their ideas and products and the ability to defend them, not doing so affects that so they have to make a show.

>>720321196
>Not how that works because people don't look at the quality, if they did then you wouldn't be here defending Palworld.
Have you seen modern pokemon games..?

>>720301478 (OP)
Sony and Ms are pushing this hate.

Its a really specific summon mechanic as found in scarlet. The picture and wording makes it look generic, but there are lot of details

>>720304480
>gaijin so dummmbbb
>let's import indians
can't call others dumb and then do the same thing anon

>>720321297
Thank you for proving my point. I'm willing to bet that you're going to hyper focus on graphics completely forgetting that it's a game.

>>720309416
>>720309214
If Nintendo tried to take on Microsoft, Microsoft could brick every single computer at Nintendo.

>>720321578
And then be sued into oblivion and forced to replace every single unit they destroyed.

>>720301478 (OP)
>Nintendo invented pet fights

>>720321489
>its a game
nigger what.
by that logic why isn't it black and white and 2d?
holy fucking shit i have no words.

>>720321604
>Forcing the CIA to do anything
Ok champ.

>>720321780
You're arguing with a paid Nintendo shill, it'll get you nowhere

>>720301478 (OP)
If you learned that "Companies hold massive portofolio of game mechanics patents" AFTER the release of Palworld.
Your Opinion is useless and you either an Florian Muller: Attention Whore, or plainly, RETARDED.

>>720321754
no, but they invented this specific iteration of pet fights

>>720321780
You have no words because you have no argument. To argue it's a bad game you would have to actually judge it AS a game, which is something you clearly can't do since I just shut down your entire response by showing you the true value of graphics.
Most likely because you haven't played anything other than pokemon but that's just an assumption based on what I've seen.

>>720322109
Nah, Nintendo doesn't have enough money to get me to shill for them. I'm just objective and like monster tamers. I'd kill if Digimon were like Pokemon right now to be honest.

>>720318180
>>720322175
>Katress emerges from under the table to express her desire for Wixen

>>720301478 (OP)
reminder that mouse click and double-click is patented

>>720301478 (OP)
it will only affect games with exclusive partnership deals like... Oh yeah just like PalWorld.

Maybe shouldnt have teamed up with sony

>>720302081
Have you ever read a patent?
Not the picture
not summany but the CLAIMS?

claim is the list of individual parts or processes that come together AS A WHOLE make the patented Element.

Claims can range from 20 to 40 easily and when it comes to law, a "breach" has to touch ALL 20-40 claims.

So no, The patent is not "Summon something".
Reducing all the claims to "summon something" is like asking "Whats the difference between a F1 Car and a Monster Truck? both have 4 wheels"

>>720322302
>I'm objective
LMAOOO ok shill.

>>720309947
>You will now.
He is a nintendo fan. He doesn't feel.

>>720322642
Okay, how am I not objective?

>>720301478 (OP)
It won't affect any other games except Palworld, they got the patent just to hurt them.

>>720319879
>Valve didn't patent the gravity gun
Valve is not a video game company, is a distributor that once, every fullmoon makes a game.

>>720301625
I still miss loading screen minigames

>>720322763
that's a really weird way of saying "palworld is the only game blatantly infringing on said patent"

>>720322916
You want to know something? If the patent was published now it means that's they filed it two years ago before the release of Palworld.

>>720322763
They COULD, so as every other patent holder could say "From now one, every game that does , will need to pay me royalties or I will sue you"

At which point there will only be 2 outcomes.
1) All Other companies will band together and leverage their own patents against Company 1 own games
2) Someone will challenge their patent in Court as most patents really wont hold itself in court. for this, you can google NINTENDO vs Colplo

That's so vague it'd even effect fighting games. Pic related does what the patent is calling for.

>>720323149
>They COULD
They can't, a patent isn't based on concept but rather execution. For example Nintendo couldn't sue Sega for Knuckles' gliding if they had patented the cape gliding from Super Mario World.
Conceptually they're the same, a slowed descent with horizontal movement but they aren't the same functionally.

Basically to infringe upon a patent you have to actively be stealing ideas. It's extremely unlikely that someone trying to be creative will land on the exact same idea even if it is similar, just look at the case of the two Dennis the Menaces, same name but they're worlds apart.

>>720323442
you are just reinforcing my point.
No, There wont be 'Nuclear option" tier of Patentlawfare.

Either, IT wont hold on court
or
whoever tries it will get destroyed 1st.

>>720309549
If books worked like this.

>We patented reading with black letters
>If the user goes from left to right
>To understand a story or idea
>And this idea makes sense
>Pay us or get sued goy

>>720323667
>you are just reinforcing my point
No, it's completely destroying your point. Your point is entirely based on the false premise of concept being the focus of a patent when it isn't, what matters is the function.
They're two different things so you can't just say
>oh they're copying from me!
If it's just conceptually the same, it needs to PLAY the same. Remember we're talking about interactions here.

>>720323856
what false premise niggeer?

Nintendo vs Colplo exist already, you inbreed fuck.

>>720323896
>Nintendo vs Colplo exist already
Yes, a patent case about functionality and not concept. What aren't you getting here?
Do you even know what the case you're referring to was about?

>>720323896
>niggeer
>inbreed
God, you even type like an Indian.

>>720323994
All Pokemon and Nintendo Patent are FUNCTIONS, you muppet

wow that sucks

I still find it weird they didn't sue palworld over the monster designs like green cinderace and that luxray thing.

>>720301898
In America the patent office is overwhelmed and basically just awards patents to anyone who files for one.
If a patent is invalid they leave it up to the courts to resolve it when it becomes relevant.
It's like passing legislation that violates the constitution. It can be on the books for a while before the courts declare it unconstitutional.

>>720301478 (OP)
uh oh
SMT bros??
Persona sissies???

Call it pessimism but i'm starting to think Nintendo's doing all of this shit not to harm Palworld, but to delay the inevitable bashing Legends ZA is going to get as every single ugly bit of that game is going to be compared to Palworld.
Like expect some shitass e-celeb like crowbcat to make a pals vs mons video comparing LZA's bugs vs Palworld being [SLIGHTLY] more polished

>>720324441
Copyright and Patents are usually exceedingly hard cases to win without proof and in the case of the designs despite being extremely similar to a near plagiaristic level there's no way to actually prove that they did.

>>720325712
Anon, Nintendo has long since stopped caring about what youtubers and reviewers think of them and so have the masses.
It's unironically anti-Nintendo fatigue because they've been pushing every single minor issue and lie as a massive anti-consumer act. Hell, just look at the general response to Palworld nowadays, it went from
>oh Nintendo is evil
To
>jesus fucking christ who cares anymore and those patents were filed three years before Palworld came out, stop lying

>>720303406
pic related is mentally ill but i respect him for being the director for a lot of good games still he is a mental freak

Nintendo should be the only video game company to make video games. Everyone else deserves to fucking die.

Nintendo is kind and everyone should kneel to when they are in the presence of nintendo products.

>>720319879
>No one patented turn-based combat, or ragdoll physics. Valve didn't patent the gravity gun.
Because no company is as greedy and evil as Nintendo. That's why nobody else does it.

>>720322286
>specific
Which they also didn't.

>>720326572
Retard.

>>720326673
Unfortunately they did. You won't be able to find a version that existed before that works the same way.

Everyone will forget about this after the Nintendo Direct.

>>720326572
>no company is as greedy and evil as Nintendo
In the video games sphere, maybe. There are much bigger fish.

DEATH TO ALL WHO OPPOSE NINTENDO
BLOOD FOR NINTNDO

>>720301478 (OP)
>US patent

LOL LMFAO Palworld is fucked. Remember when people said that the patents would never, ever be accepted in the states?

>>720326851
Two monsters with supernatural powers fighting each other under the command of a trainer?
It's already existed. Greek and Norse mythology already did it in some tales. In fact, you can find a good example from recent history in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, which came out before Pokémon.
Now, if you want to get even more specific (gym leaders, gym badges, starters, 6 teams), that would be outside the scope of the lawsuit (because Palworld doesn't have any of those), and it would be a moot point.

>>720327413
>Remember when people said that the patents would never, ever be accepted in the states?
They filed the patent.
It wasn't approved yet.

>>720327467
>conversation is about a specific version of a concept
>proceeds to ignore specific details of each instance and focuses on the core concept
Good job, dumbass. If you want to argue, then argue but make sure you're saying something that doesn't make you look like an utter dipshit.

>>720301974
Legends ZA ripped off Digimon World's battle system.

>patented summoning
huh?

>>720327671
Okay anon, what's so specific about Pokémon that it's never been done before anywhere else and is worth patenting? Or are you going to use ad hominem to dodge the answer again?

>>720313731
>>720301625

These scare patents are hit and miss, but usually have no downside for the company issuing them if they're large enough. They often have no intention of actually going to court, but they know the fear of it alone would be enough to frighten smaller devs.

>>720328037
>what's so specific about Pokémon that it's never been done before anywhere else and is worth patenting?
Read the patents listed on pocketpair's site and find out. You have a source, you have the means, I can't force you to read it from here so it's all on you.

>>720305814
they stole super moves
they stole temporary power up forms

>>720326572
>Because no company is as greedy and evil as Nintendo.
You retards say stupid shit like this every day but it was all the other companies that chased the Fortnite money, you can't back up any of your idiot claims

>>720301478 (OP)
Poor Rydia...
Now a property of Nintendo.

>>720302518
reminder that pocketpair made their game BEFORE nintendo filed any patents.

>>720301478 (OP)
that's fucking insane. summoning creatures is originally a demonic concept central to satanism.
is nintendo going to copyright strike the satanic church too?

>>720326572
>Because no company is as greedy and evil as Nintendo. That's why nobody else does it.

>>720301478 (OP)
They should just take all their money from Palworld move to a different country with less draconian laws and keep producing games there.
Let Japan destroy it's own industry alone, they can be free of the Nintendo Yakuzas.

>>720302334
So, something that Raidou and Ni No Kuni did first? lmao

I've decided to patent shitposting, now everyone in this thread owes me a dollar

Is Palworld still on game pass? Maybe I will try it

>>720330797
show me the list of Claims for your Patent.

>>720329659
Reminder that not only were the patents filed in 2021 before the release of the game but PLA, the game the patents pertain to, was revealed and had a trailer containing actual gameplay footage BEFORE Palworld was even revealed let alone when it had a gameplay trailer.
In addition Palworld's development restarted between 2021 and 2024.

>>720301478 (OP)
Wow so SMT VI is essentially dead now ?

>>720330980
Doesn't matter. Nintendo sued them for the patents they made AFTER Palworld released.

>>720306134
you just invalidated your post with the haha

>>720304609
I'm sure they'll pull some shit because you technically can. Some Pals do have their useable skill that commands them to use a move.

>>720303425
It won't happen
>japs want handheld games
>sony and ms aren't making handhelds

>>720330829
Apparently it still is

Nintendo needs to fire their legal team

>>720332265
they wont do shit

>>720332573
We'd have to see what happens

>>720332646
they wont do shit

>>720331649
Anon, I don't know how time works for you but in the real world 2021 came before 2024.

>>720331943
You can't introduce new patents to a case and it's a US patent anyway.

>>720318180
Artist name?

>>720305814
Technically, outside of spinoffs that work on completely different gameplay systems, Pokemon has never had save points.
It's explicitly because they allow you to save whenever you want, wherever you want that the early games have so many potential softlocks in them.

>>720331649
Publish date =/= filing date
US patent =/= Japanese patent

Pocketpair are being sued for infringement of three patents filed in 2021 and published in 2023 in Japan.
They "mistakenly" put the US dates on their site, those patents were filed in 2022 and approved in 2024 after the release of the game.
Patent protection in all regions is retroactive to the filing date, not the publish date too.

>Braining the milquetoast cuckservative and not the blatantly evil scrimblo bimblo corpos that are rotting the vidya industry
Why are normies so fucking stupid.

>>720301478 (OP)
Only affects games developed in Japan. US won't chase other companies,

>>720301478 (OP)
>Nintendo Just Patented Summoning:
Doesn't matter in the US. Prior art is a thing. Meaningless patent. Only in backwards nations like Japan does this have any power.

>>720334013
It's a US patent

>>720302334
Wtf you literally can't patent a series of systems. I could literally code a sequence where the player presses a button, an object is instantiated, and the player controller is set to that object. You can patent your own implementation of the written code but you can't patent several separate systems nebulously, especially since summoning and controlling summons have been used in already established titles way before the patent was pending.

This is pure bullshit.

>>720334413
Then it will get thrown out the second Nintendo tries to file suit. You just submit a request for dismissal and provide the judge with evidence of prior art going back 30 years across countless games and it won't make it to trial.

>>720334460
What's this??? Judge Weinberg coming outta' left field with the NEW PRECEDENT!!!

>>720334627
>The Court has long held that § 101 of the Patent Act, which defines the subject matter eligible for patent protection, contains an implicit exception for “laws of nature, natural phenomena, and abstract ideas.”

For a patent to be valid the thing you're trying to patent has to have a clear definition. Just saying "a system where the player summons a character, and that character is then controlled in battle" is extremely vague. For it to be valid you have to define the exact context of 'summoning', 'controll', and 'battle'.

>>720333317
>Offing an evil fascist brainwashing people and working to actively poison the future is less important than offing some rando corpo suit of a game company because they're using the legal system as intended to protect a loved family friendly ip
You're pathetic and have no idea what's coming to you and your kind. Consider it a sample platter.

>>720306162
This isn't true. You could create a system where the enemies you fight are recurring characters, and have events that change their dialogues and appearances. What you can't do is use the exact Nemesis system as is.

>>720335171
those two things dont correlate you retard
he wasnt even a politician, just a run of the mill streamer

>>720303868
>They pretty much will only use these if you do something that offends them (like market your game off of mocking one of theirs).
yeah, cause there totally aren't entire franchises where the main focus and market is literally summoning, right? final fantasy, smt/persona, digimon, plenty of isekai jrpgs, etc

Patents genuinely should not exist. I have never seen a single legitimate use of the damn things.

>>720301478 (OP)
Imagine being such a retard that you care about Nintendo or pallworld kys faggots

>>720302334
oh, so you mean every digimon world, every D&D and relatives with summon classes, some SMT games, 90% of MMOs, multiple FF entries, and more

every single time some of you retard start to defend something cause "it's only in nintendo games anyway", it always comes from someone who hasnt actually played any game

You can't patent ideas // thread

>>720310569
Death to indians

>>720336141
>You can't patent ideas
But Nintendo can and have done so.

>>720317006
Do you get paid double to shit on your own race?

>>720303406
yeah right, lets ignore how there's literally hundreds of games on the Commodore 64 that have jumping mechanics before DK was released on the NES and several years before Mario Bros.

>>720334976
This is Chinese+ (jap) legal code not western ideals of fairness (vulnerability to Jews rather than emulating them.)

Can people at least do their fucking research on the patent before doom posting about how Persona and Final Fanatsy are forever canceled because a hack Youtuber like Yong Yea or Charlie told them so

>>720335876
they wont do shit to them

>>720335876
and all of those have existed before palworld and will continue to exist after palworld

>>720336287
>have done so.
In Japan, which will not hold up in the EU or US courts.

>>720336450
that would require normalfags to think independently, something they cannot do

>>720336630
This patent is a US patent.

>>720309549
Guess digimon world will just go into another 20 year hibernation.

>>720336436
Doesn't matter. If they try to sue a US company they will have to go through the US legal system.

>>720336650
Youtube has literally brain rotted the masses.

>>720336696
>This patent is a US patent.
Which will not hold up in a US court since they are trying to patent an idea in its abstract form. Even if the patent is approved it doesn't mean that the courts recognize it. If Nintendo tries to sue outside of Japan the patent will be invalidated.

>>720336813
They are patenting a system, not an idea though. Here's the abstract from the patent itself:
>An example of an information processing system moves a player character on a field, based on a movement operation input. The information processing system causes a sub character on the field, based on a first operation input. When an enemy character is placed at a location where the sub character is caused to appear, the information processing system controls a battle by a first mode in which the battle proceeds based on an operation input. When the enemy character is not placed at the location, the information processing system starts automatic control of automatically moving the sub character. The information processing system moves the sub character, based on a second operation input, and when the enemy character is placed at a location of a designation, the information processing system controls a battle by a second mode in which the battle automatically proceeds.

>>720336813
When I was a kid I thought Japan was one of the most intelligent countries in the world...

>>720336630
The EU and US courts while be forced to accept any patent claims Nintendo makes as they know it comes directly as a request from the Japanese government, small laws never matter for international politics. Nintendo won.

It's not a general summoning patent, it's a "if you summon a monster at a specific spot it will either initiate a battle if it touches an enemy or move on its own towards an enemy" patent.

>>720337283
Bro, even fucking final fantasy crystal chronicles has that shit. This is not fucking new. This is like ten years of prior art.

>>720336967
For this to be valid they will have to define what they mean by "information processing system". They are trying to throw in several very basic functions of a generalized video game and patent them. It is in its entirety too nebulous to be a valid patent and they will get btfo'd in both the EU and US courts.

>>720337324
>t. high on fent and not afraid to admit it

>>720337065
nope

>>720337387
What kind of insult even is that?

>>720337456
don't you know, we are ligerally inside le cyberpunk and nintendough is literally le arasaka corp
fight the power!

>>720337557
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>720334013
>Doesn't matter in the US. Prior art is a thing.
Just a heads up prior art doesn't matter in the US anymore, they switched to first to file quite some time ago.

>>720334460
>You can patent your own implementation of the written code
Raw code is covered by copyright you fucking moron.

>>720334976
This dumb nigger thinks that a journo title is a patent.

>>720337616
palworld's more of a kid's game than even pokemon

>>720311276
>using a game that cuts way too many corners for a billion-dollar company
Wow what a way to OWN the palchuds

>>720337694
You can patent the software, which is the implementation of the code.

>>720337758
>Saying this when Pokemon is solely marketed towards Japanese kids

>>720337752
>Journo title
esl

>>720337832
Yeah, sure, whatever, not true but it doesn't matter because this isn't a software patent.

>>720337945
A system patent is a software patent.

>Nintendo will do nothing guys
Yeah, until they start doing shit and you realize just how deep into shit they've put everyone by being massive jews.

>>720337867
pokemon, hell nintendo as a whole owes it's success almost exclusively on being all-ages
palworld is propped up entirely by a bunch of teenagers with too much time on their hand and a handful of autismos, but you don't wanna talk about those

>>720337979
Also wrong because a system and software are two different things. A car engine is a system for instance and that is a physical object.

Why are you people so fucking stupid?

>>720338006
They haven't done anything for almost 40 years not even under iwata during their most Jewish years.

>>720338159
Just because they haven't doesn't mean they won't. If anything it's more concerning because they've been arming up and doubling down for a while now.

>>720338098
In legal terms software fall under system patents, the patent of a computer implemented system or method.

>>720338097
yeah, because it was worldwide show just like almost all kid shows that air worldwide and manage to staple itself in people mind yugioh was the exact same also why you are deflecting from what you said you said palworld was more of kid's games when pokemon is way more kiddie like

>>720338213
>If anything it's more concerning because they've been arming up and doubling down for a while now.
No, no they haven't.
Look anon, I'm going to blow your mind here, believe it or not being Jewish isn't a good business decision. That's why Nintendo is thriving while everyone else is currently failing.

>>720338257
>In legal terms software fall under system patents
No, no they don't. If you want to be technical system and software patents as a title don't exist because it's just a descriptor for what it is,youre patenting a system, you're patenting a software etc etc, both are just utility patents.
Also in most places you can't patent software, it's too generic, resulting in a copyright like protection.

>>720338287
there's no reason an adult should be playing palworld, it's all just bored kids fucking around
pokemon at least has battle autism and theory-crafting

Palfaggots deserve this

>>720338485
If the patent in question deals with a specific method, that method falls under the software and that software falls under the system.

You can patent the implementation of the code, in a given method, in the given system.

>>720338692
Jesus fucking christ you're just repeating what was addressed earlier. If you're this braindead it's no surprise you're so up in arms about this, you don't even want to understand how patents work.

>>720338764
The main point was that you can patent the implementation of code, which is factually true.

Who cares. Charlie Kirk is dead lmfao

>>720338949
Who?

>>720339060
Exactly

>>720339060
Aligns balls

>>720339089
Well that would be the Ball Aligner

>>720339153
Was trying to write ligma but it autocorrected to align for some reason...

>>720339213
Well it's too late now, the Ball Aligner exists now.

>>720332491
inb4 the Floppie gapeposter from /vm/ shows up

>>720338523
>battle autism and theory crafting
>Game that consist of you just spamming one move to get through the story
Why are you bringing up the most boring aspect of pokemon up even the pvp is boring

>>720303868
>if you do something that offends them (like market your game off of mocking one of theirs).
Or taking their precious market share

snoys losed
eric losed
palsnoys losed
digisnoys losed
personasnoys losed
ootsnoys losed

>>720339864
...as opposed to palworld where every move is that one move? because it's all the same shit? and pvp doesn't even exist?

>>720336450
but why should anyone side with a company that sells low quality pokemon games despite them being partnered with a billion-dollar company and what does nuking palworld achieve for them besides have their ego feeling good

>>720340019
am i talking with a indian or something cause palworld doesn't have you spamming one move it has you trying to dodge attacks while your pal auto battles for you also pokemon does have pvp but it's literally rock paper scissor or who has the better stats

>>720340283
and by 'dodging' you mean spamming full i-frame rolls over and over
right, very cool

>>720340134
>but why should anyone side with a company that sells low quality pokemon games despite them being partnered with a billion-dollar company
No one except Indian shills are siding with Palworld