Thread 720316824

if this is a role playing game why can't I brutally rape and bludgeon delphine for talking shit about my dragon homie

Op being unhinged aside, I do dislike how more modern games don't let you fuck up
Half Life 1 let me accidentally get a Barney or some nerd I needed killed and welp, sucks to suck... Half Life 2 just doesn't
Skyrim 3: Morrowind let you kill important characters and would straight up inform you of it, but still let you fuck around in the world after they died... Skyrim doesn't let you do that, they're unkillable
I miss the lack of handholding and the ability to be a stupid retard in games of your own accord, not just when the story makes your character be one

>>720316824 (OP)
no, but i am sure there is a mod for it

>download a mod that lets you decline the quest
>no scripts or special other addons
>didnt even need a voiceover or ai or a reason why
>advance said quest
>realize its just a gateway to even more repeatable quests
>why would anyone even
>start a new game

I think shadowman has a mod for exactly that on LL

>>720316995
Because players just reload, so it isn't worth the extra work

>>720317645
Marking NPCs as essential, or building the mission so that they can't die, is probably more work than just having a Morrowind style popup saying you fucked up

>>720318065
or you know they can do what they have in Vegas (which was made under a fucking year and is better than whatever bethesda churned out) where if you kill an important npc the game allows you to take another path

>>720316824 (OP)
Contrary to what /v/ likes to think, the overwhelming majority of rpgs ever made do not allow you to kill any character that you like.
But for some reason only Bethesda games are criticized for not allowing the player to do this.
I wonder why?

>>720318328
>under a year
New Vegas was made in 18 months with an already made engine and many assets already available.

>>720318442
and they used those assets to make the real Fallout 3 and a better game

>>720318442
And considering that Fallout 3 was made in 2 years from scratch, New Vegas actually had plenty of development time all things considered.

>>720318442
>already made engine
Unreal 5
>many assets already available
last games assets plus Unity Store or something
what's your cope now

>>720318581
You see, being a little fanboy bitch is why everybody makes fun of New Vegas babies.

>>720316824 (OP)
There ale like 11 mods that let you do just that.
I use mod that make her Paarthy's cum dump.

>>720318581
>they made the real fallout 3
kek. You would have never got your precious New Vegas if Bethesda didn't revive the franchise and then graciously allowed Obsidian to make a spin off title.
You should be grateful that Fallout 3 exists.

>>720318786
Fallout 3 is still mid

honestly the good timeline would be if Bethesda just gave away the franchise after 3 as 4 is a barebones rpg while being a medicore game. 76 and the TV show are objectively shit

>>720318442
New Vegas had more new assets than reused ones. More quests, more dialogue, much grander DLC.

>>720316824 (OP)
That's the neat thing, it's not actually a role-playing game!

>>720319325
bullshit. you think acting retarded and pissing people off is a fun hobby, but around my neck of the woods you'd get fucked in the ass for that kind of behaviour.

>>720316995
The surprise morrowind reference when I unknowingly let Martin die during the final fight was amusing.

>>720319859
game makes zero sense if you aren't a human race or a nord. Literally feels like fan fiction if you're a mer or a beast race since they have almost have no cultural connection to Skyrim

>>720316824 (OP)
believe it or not, there are mods for that.

>>720316995
I like how in New Vegas you can kill anyone and the story will continue regardless.

>>720318678
>everyone
you mean the funko pop consuming bethesda redditors (you) that only enjoy the fake LE 1950s faggot fallout

>>720320980
but then you're stuck with the literal yes man ending and just suck your own dick until you die

>>720318442
>>720318581
New Vegas is impressive.
It's obvious that Bethesda only gave them 18 months to shame and humiliate them because they knew that this would never be enough time to make a good game, but despite that, Obsidian still delivered with not only a good game, but one of the best Fallout games that mogs everything Bethesda has ever done.
Making such an impressive game with such a crippling time limit is truly impressive and the result of some masterful developers on al fronts.

>>720321854
Bethesda is under your bed and in ur head lol

>>720321912
>lol ur obsessed
baby can't find a good response

>>720316995
>Half Life 2 just doesn't
It's hard but you can get Alyx killed in a few segments and it's an instant game over.

>>720322005
do you really think Bethesda was trying to "shame and humiliate" Obsidian? You're nuts dude.

>>720322041
That's why they did the 18 months deathline. It was a humiliation ritual. They knew that it would be impossible to develop anything reasonable in that time and they wanted to shame Obsidian by forcing them to release a rushed, crappy game and then point and laugh at them for how incompetent they are and how much better Bethesda was.
But then, Obsidian still delivered with a masterpiece, in spite of the crippling and unrealistic deathline, completely mogging Bethesda in the process.

>>720322186
I think 3 and NV are of equal quality, now what?

>>720322218
>New Vegas is of equal quality despite having the absurdely low deathline oof 18 months.
Total Obsidian victory.
Imagine how much of an even greater masterpiece they could have created if they had all the time in the world to develop their game like Bethesda didwith Fallout 3.

>>720322218
ok now compare the stories and locations

>>720322218
you can't even ask the mutant in 3 to put in the code cause "muh destiny" bullshit

>>720322671
>>720323132
don't care it's fun and cool