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$1800 isn't that much.

>midrange
>5070
>32gb ram
>2tb ssd
>prebuilr
Kek

>>720329285
That's literally Switch 2 + Series X + PS5 combined

Windows 11 aside, is buying prebuilt still cheaper than buying the parts individually and building it yourself nowadays?

>prebuilt
>nvidia
You get what you deserve.
I'm hijacking your bait. Do these new cases even do anything for airflow or is it just a ricing matter.

>>720329350
It never was

>>720329343
To get practically all of their libraries and the games of their past consoles for free through pirating/emulation.

>>720329221 (OP)
That might not even do 1440p gaming.
I could get a PS5 Pro and a Switch 2, and a 4k/120hz TV for the price of that turd.

>>720329385
I bought a 3000$ pc off my friend a year ago with a 250$ be quiet case. No clue what it actually does and I only got the case because the nigger was too lazy to swap all the parts to my new case, BUT it makes almost 0 sound and has never overheated even a little. I can't imagine spending that much on a case desu but I'll keep it because it was (free)

>>720329285
That's a fairly small amount of money for a mid-range experience, I'd say?

>>720329343
2 games
no games
no games

>>720329343
>>720329586
Which of those runs games at 60fps and can browse the internet at the same time?

>>720329343
no, it's the price of a ps5 and switch 2 with a lego stacked together price in addition at the cost of a series x.

It's also more powerful than a series x and ps5 and switch 2 taped together.

>doesn’t even include a monitor, keyboard, mouse, desk, gaming chair and other necessary personal computing peripherals such as lube and bad dragon dildo
PC gayming is the ultimate scam

>>720329221 (OP)
This $300 PC can play all games from 2022 and earlier.

>>720329676
The PS5/Pro can play games at 120fps, anon.
Who browses the internet while playing games?

>>720329221 (OP)
that's prebuillt tax
besides this has a gpu 40% better than the ps5 pro, cpu twice as good as ps5 pro and more than double the ram
a part list that ties a ps5 pro can be had for less than $100 more

>>720329586
>That might not even do 1440p gaming.
>I could get a PS5 Pro and a Switch 2
Neither does the Ps5 Pro.

>>720329606
no, that's a shitload of money for a midrange experience.

But then again I'm from a time where $1000 would be a top of the line machine before retarded niggers like you started throwing money at gpu grifters and scalpers.

>>720329762
no it fucking can't

>>720329640
If youre going to say the Switch technically has 2 games, then the PS5 does have Astro Bot and Death Stranding 2. So... 2 games as well*

>>720329586
And those won't even do 1080p.

>>720329762
I wish. Just waiting for a Mini PC to truly be able to and I'll make it my new Trinitron box.

>>720329779
>120fps on graphics worse than a chromebook
Not impressed. I've seen "120 fps" gameplay from a ps5 and it looked like shit.
>who bro...
Everyone with a pc. Multitasking is a gift to those who have the favor of an alt tab button.

>>720329762
Post a video of it running elden ring with no stutters lol

>>720329221 (OP)
Nothing about that is mid-range except maybe the CPU and even than after price hikes and all that it's still an #600X so it's more of trying to spend every dollar you have yet just a little too poor for a genuine upgrade.

I want a rig that will let me generate AI, and also animate in blender. What price range am I looking at. Video games.

>>720329810
all that power and yet devs still won’t or can’t optimize for shit on PC, SADGE

>>720329221 (OP)
>mid-range
Good luck booting fucking minecraft with that LOL

>>720329846
If Astro Bot counts as a game, so does Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour.

>>720329942
it's called lowering the settings
consoles just get cut down shit
do you think the same incompetent devs responsible for modern garbage become code wizards when dealing with consoles?

>>720329586
>can do 1440p gaming on my 3080
>apparently a card that's 20-30% faster can't

and people wonder why I just switched to using a PS5
>BUT FREE ONLINE!
The $1000 I saved is enough for over a decade of PS+
Also, I can buy physical games which I can re-sell once I'm done playing and make my money back partially, unlike digital shit on steam

I literally have not played a game on PC in over a year now since I switched primarily to my PS5, my PC isn't even that old either but I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon or if ever. I just use it to browse mostly.

pic related, my steam account is almost 20 years old and I haven't played a game since Riven remake in 2024.

Honestly I'm having more fun on PS5 too because I'm playing a lot of older games I already own on PC again and getting the platinum which is a lot of fun.

that's not midrange
pic related is slightly better than a ps5 pro and it costs the same

>>720329762
Maybe if you get it out of that little case and jerry-rig a decent cooling solution.

RTX GPUs fucking suck. they can't use latest drivers on windows or they brick. they suck shit at linux. they dont work at all on mac. its a joke of a graphics card lineup.

>>720330342
i heavily doubt you're even competent enough to install an iso
only someone who faces constant overwhelming struggle on pc could shit out a wall of text like that

>>720329815
Base ps5 runs call of duty at 1440p/120fps, anon.

>>720330380
are men really going around with micro atx now? i know thats am4 but these smaller rigs seem like a complete meme like white component tax. smaller builds but similar pricing.

>>720329857
120fps on call of duty and any multiplayer looks real good. i dont know what you saw

>>720330565
prebuilts do because they know the buyers aren't smart enough to tinker with it
if you have integrated motherboard wifi you don't really use those extra pcie slots either

>>720330032
if mario kart 8.5 and super mario galaxy 1.5 for furries counts as games, the switch 2 has no games aswell

>>720330380
Except it doesnt get GTA 6 or multiplayer without exploiters and cheaters galore. Also PS5/Pro has better memory than that build as well. And everything is made for it and works better on it than PC. That doesnt even come with a keyboard, mouse, etc.

>>720330342
maybe stop being a faggot or something
>cheevo hunting on console
absolute niggardry, You must be a zoomer that inherited that account after your older brother ack'd himself.

>>720330748
I can keep going, I have no horse in this consolenigger race. Astro Bot is paid advertisement and not a videogame.

>>720330380
>double the price only to be slightly better

>>720330821
you confuse the first astro bot ad with the complete game

>>720329221 (OP)
I just build this exact PC except I used an 9060xt instead of an RTX 5070 and it cost me 1070€, looking at the price diff you'd add 170€ to get the RTX 5070, so you're getting charged like 500 dollars for the prebuilt assembly

>>720330879
>double the price

>>720330883
No, I'm not confusing anything, Astro Bot (2024) is a paid ad and not a videogame.

>>720330754
>Except it doesnt get GTA 6
https://pcsx5.org/
>multiplayer without exploiters and cheaters galore.
you all cheat with aim assist, why are you crying
maybe grow up don't play utter compslop mmr grind garbage?
>Also PS5/Pro has better memory than that build as well.
and that cpu runs laps around the garbage underclocked zen2 part so that doesn't matter
>everything is made for it and works better on it than PC.
no, console versions are made by stripping shit down and forcing upscaling while we need to opt into that shit
there's no console magic, you just get an irreversibly shit version
>That doesnt even come with a keyboard, mouse, etc.
that console doesn't come with free online or mods or the ability to do literally anything a corpo hasn't preapproved
besides your bluetooth controllers are on par with bottom tier ten bucks keyboard and mouse sets when it comes to latency

>>720330991
than i'm sorry to say that you are retarded and called every platformer not a game
on which nintendo consoles rely on

If I don't care about resolitions above 1080p but I still want to play Death Stranding 2 when it's out on pc will a gaming laptop be enough? I travel a lot for work and I need to upgrade my laptop anyway but I don't want third degree burns on my legs

>>720329350
It depends, I don't think it's as much of a difference as it was around 4>>720329350
years ago.

>>720331030
You will not be playing GTA 6 on release, emulator or not.

Aim assist is a fairly natural compensation for lack of total hand control and every player has it. Equal playing field.

And that PC cpu cant run GTA 6.

Games are made for console initially, then haphazardly ported to PC.

Console has paid online but is free of hackers/viruses altogether. By the way, the PS5 controllers have full haptics.

>>720331041
Sorry, not bending reality to not upset you.

>>720330931
glad someone did this because im always curious about what the diy cost comes out to. im so curious what is the most optimal build to wring as much money from the average zoomer if i were a pc build seller

White parts
LianLi case + all the fans + digital monitor
rgb cables, ram, i/o (white ofc)
platinum power supply

>>720331157
i'm fine
your take is just dumb that's all

>>720330754
You don't unironically think people on console don't cheat do you? Ximming alone is used everywhere on console because you niggers can't aim without aim assist. Console anticheat is significantly worse than anything on PC.

>>720331184
There is no "take", only facts.

>>720330879
>oops forgot I have to pay a subscription to use my own intetnet on console
>no keys and barely any sales too
>can't pirate any games
Yea I'm thinking pajeets5 players are the raped.

>>720331190
Console has its own form of anticheat, by being its own ecosystem. It doesnt need whatever broken anticheat steam uses because if you arent up to date under their software specs, you cant go online.

Aim assist is already there to begin with. And you get banned for using anything outside of it.

>>720331249
aaaand these "facts" are based on what?

PC gaming had an edge when games could be easily pirated, but now that Denuvo is here to stay, there is no justification for spending $2,000 on a rig to play the same games as a PS5

>>720331296
Reality. God, your attention span is fried.

>>720331250
Barely any sales? have you ever seen the PS store sales anon? Theyre remarkably similar to steam.

>>720331348
yeah, sorry buster, but you gotta have a little more than that up your sleeves to convince anyone

>150 per month
just skip doordash 5 times and you'll even come out ahead

>>720331146
>You will not be playing GTA 6 on release, emulator or not.
stomping and throwing your little tantrums won't change the truth

>Aim assist is a fairly natural compensation for lack of total hand control and every player has it. Equal playing field.
so you'd rather have skill get completely devalued over dealing with a cheater in your compslop grind?
fucking sad

>And that PC cpu cant run GTA 6.
it'll run it just as badly as your toys will

>Games are made for console initially, then haphazardly ported to PC.
games are made on literal x86 pc hardware and then cordoned off to consoles

>Console has paid online but is free of hackers/viruses altogether.
you're not going to experience either if you're not stupid and addicted to the most garbage genre in existence?
>By the way, the PS5 controllers have full haptics.
and they're still connected by bluetooth
enjoy your bottom of the barrel tier latency
oh wait, it doesn't matter
because you don't actually play your games on consoles, they aim for you

>>720331293
>you get banned for usiny anything outside of it
Kek you're retarded. People buy special hardware to cheat specifically on console using a KBM with aim assist and it's been a problem for over a decade. You're literally coping so hard.

Kill yourself frogposter for bumping this nigger thread constantly

>>720329221 (OP)
Are you pulling my leg? Are you being intentionally dense? Is this some kind of prank?

>>720331293
>It doesnt need whatever broken anticheat steam uses because if you arent up to date under their software specs, you cant go online.
it's called community servers
consoles are an antisocial soulless experience with no moderation

>>720331318
what games are unpiratable that are worth playing? I cant think of one

>>720331440
Its not devalued. Its just compensating for the lack of total hand control. its relatively the same as everybody using something that doesnt need the assistance.

>>720331621
it's compensating for the egos of consolecucks who couldn't handle not having it at all
no aim assist would make console multiplayer fun instead of sad and soulless and that would actually depend on the skill of the player

1 (one) anon defending pissjeet5 is getting smacked around like a femboy in the military

>>720330754
Why is it always GTA6 with you? If that's the only positive you can think of about the PS5, then it's not the winning argument you think it is.

>>720331703
It still does depend on the skill of the player. Because everybody has it. You still have to be able to utilize it better than your opponents. Its equal

>>720331785
If nothing else, everyone is going to have to buy it for GTA 6 regardless. It's pretty important.

>>720330528
Buddy, I built my first gaming PC in 2006 likely when you were still a toddler or something, don't even try to talk to me like you know me lmao My first GPU was a 7600 GT

>>720330049
There are entire youtube channels showing console equivalent settings for pc, it pretty much ALWAYS requires a more powerful pc to match the console experience, ranging from a little bit more powerful to a lot more powerful, sometimes not even a 5090 and 9800x3d can avoid massive stutters.

Some could be blamed due to lack of hardeare decompression, the inability to optimize at the same level due to varying hardware or lack of care.

This has been the case since years ago, try to get a ps4 or ps5 experience with equivalent hardware in God of War or The Last of Us Part 2.

>>720331919
No, I don't think I will. If I REALLY needed to play GTA6, and only GTA6, I would buy a Series S instead, GamePass at least would give me access to a bigger library of games than the PS5 can give me.

>>720330819
Wrong and wrong, retard. My first steam game was Half Life 2 that I got on Disk at target, I was 17 years old in 2006 when I built my first PC.

I'm sorry I upset you though, I'm enjoying playing on my PS5, in fact I'm playing Silksong on it right now :^)

>>720331919
>everyone
Yea just like everyone installed epic for Alan wake 2. How everyone used Epic for borderlands 3, kingdom hearts etc. How everyone bought a Playstation for demon souls or bloodborne. You're delusional as fuck, no one who doesn't already own the console is spending 800$ on GTA6 when it will come to a better platform later.

>>720332049
You can play it on a 549 dollar PS5... And we are talking about the biggest entertainment release of all time, over any form of media.
>>720332024
Either way, you're buying a console

>>720332101
>the biggest release of all time
Kek. If you're releasing as a console exclusive you'll never be the biggest anything. It won't even reach palworlds sales.

>>720331836
you dumb nigger, aim assist is so strong that it turns an average consolecuck as accurate as the top tier pc players
there's no fucking skill being rewarded here

>>720332101
Silksong bros.
What do we think of this?

>>720331919
Good for them. I'm not an impatient retard though so I can just wait for the PC release.

>>720332146
It beat any media release ever when it only released on consoles in 2013... nothing on PC has even come close

>>720329221 (OP)
I still use a GTX 1060 6GB.

>>720331919
what is this delusion lmao
you impulsive consolecucks never cease to amuse
this game will run like shit on the ps5 and then you'll have to rebuy it for the ps6
no one needs to play it, rockstar has gone to shit and you're relying on believing that the company hasn't changed in more than a decade

>>720332164
Yeah but you still have to be better regardless. Not even an idiot can just get on a console and rise to the top since they all have it. Theres still a relative scale to it. Really makes you wonder why anyone would use a mouse if controller just boosts you right up

>>720332226
>gta5 sold 11 million copies
>overwatch 1 sold 50 million
Yea... embarrassingly low you can't even match up to a hero shooter kek

>>720331957
then it's dementia kicking in
no one who could write that shit out could be attributed as being anywhere near remotely competent
your negro tier high time preference is showing

>>720329221 (OP)
>mid-range

>>720332367
It took overwatch 5 years to hit that. GTA v is at 200m+ by the way

>>720329343
Don't forget to include indefinite online access membership.

>>720331030
You're not emulating PS5 with tht PC

A 5500 performs similar to 3600 so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, lack of hardware decompression will also hurt.

>>720332468
>gta5 sells for 5$ on pc the last 10 years to furry roleplayers
>IT'S THE BEST SELLING GAME GUYS
Kek still rockstar shills are embarrassing creatures.

>>720332352
no you literally don't faggot
consolecucks are utter scrubs that would cry if they had to actually try to play their games
no matter how you slice it aim assist guts the difference between high and low skill but that's only bad when actual cheaters do it apparently

>refusing to cut costs on pointless shit like RGB fans

You did it to yourself.

>>720332101
>And we are talking about the biggest entertainment release of all time, over any form of media.
Look, you're not funny, you're not entertaining, I don't know in how many layers of irony you're currently under, but just shut up, you talk like a 15 year old.

>>720332542
so?
if i was a rockstar dicksucker i'd just render that shit at 720p rather than be forced into the consolecuck 30fps experience

>go on ebay
>buy old workstation for 150 dollars
>buy cheap used 6600 XT
>put RX 6600 XT in it
It's that shrimple.

>>720329221 (OP)
you don't buy a PC, you build a PC

>>720332542
NTA but I have a powerhouse PC and could easily run the ps5 emu and gta considering console ports are generally weaker versions of the real game with diminished graphics so that the lower end tech can run them. Ps5 emu baseline requirements according to their link is not very high to begin with, and I've already emulated ps3 and 4 with little issue.

>>720331919
gta was always for teenagers, there's no value in it
mediocre shooting, mediocre driving, mediocre story
why the fuck would it be more important than having access to the entire pc library and emulation? take your meds

>>720329586

4070 Super is a high frame rate 1440p card. The biggest issue with that set of specs is the 9600X. 6 cores for that price is rough.

Also, Gigabyte GPUs are shit.

This thread is a good reminder of the types of actually mentally handicapped low IQ subhuman filth this site is infected with.

>>720332625
>RGB
Wow you just saved OP 50 dollars.

>>720332841
It took a fucking decade to make Bloodborne have decent emulation and it still crashes sometime.

You're fucking delusional or know nothing about emulation.

>>720329350
Sometimes

>>720332760
You're a shitposter that knows nothing about PC's.

Lowering the resolution won't help if the problem is the CPU and not the GPU.

>>720329221 (OP)
that is not a mid range PC you fucking dumbass

>>720333243
and why would that be the problem there retard?
the bottleneck will obviously sit with the gpu

>PCkeks used to get uppity about superior controls
>now they can't stop crying about getting btfo by controllers in every cross play shooter
LOL

>>720329221 (OP)
Wilds still runs better on PS5 than on that mid range kek

>>720329221 (OP)
>nvidia
dumb goys like you deserve every dollar you have to spend

>>720331318
stinky SMELLY frogposter

>>720333763
lol
don't attribute the success of the algorithms that lock onto players and make it impossible to overshoot them to controllers
you're not winning, the retard engagement system is

>>720333802
>unoptomized garbage runs better on graphics stripped down lower than the lowest possible PC settings
Yea I'm not surprised

>>720333763
>consolecucks have abandoned all pretenses of their games requiring any skill because the results make them look better

>>720333437
So you're buying a 1000 dollars PC to play at 720p?

Why would you assume a ps5 pro couldn't do 1080p anyway?

Also depsite the pixel count dropping from 1080p to 720p rarely doubles your framerate, so in case the pro can only do 30 a 9060xt won't do 60even at lower resolution.

>>720333981
>unoptomized garbage runs better on graphics stripped down lower than the lowest possible PC settings
>Yea I'm not surprised
ACK

>>720329221 (OP)
Still can't run PoE2

>>720334148
>1000 dollars
actually i wasn't satisified with that one so have an even better deal
you're buying it to have access to everything a pc can do, not to play the freshest goyslop from rockstar that has no value to anyone with an iq above room temperature

>>720334383
>6-core processor
Unable to play current games. Borderlands 4 for example has a 8-core requirement.

>>720334383
>1000 dollars
>actually i wasn't satisified with that one so have an even better deal
>you're buying it to have access to everything a pc can do, not to play the freshest goyslop from rockstar that has no value to anyone with an iq above room temperature
Phones can do that

You're paying at least 25% for labor
Just don't be lazy lol

>>720334489
Do zoomers really not have computers? You guys do everything on your phones?

>>720334474
>Can't play BL4

>>720329221 (OP)
>5070
Good enough... for 1080p native medium 60 fps in MGS3 Delta and Borderlands 4. Pretty much what you need for that.

>>720332607
I thought you guys didnt care because KB+M is so superior anyways

>>720334474
first gta6 and now bl4? have you even seen what bl3 looks like? do you have any semblance of taste?
also that requirement will literally be bypassed day one

>>720334489
no, a 5w arm soc can't in fact do that
winlator fucking sucks and even at best phone storage wasn't made for pc emulation
that shit is years off

>>720334642
That's performance a base ps5 can do...

>>720334720
yes, it's a superior input method that actually relays your inputs accurately
meanwhile controllers are so innately atrocious at doing that that you need to give the average consolecuck nigger that plays cod while stoned pc pro level accuracy so he doesn't get bored or have to learn how to operate the thumbsticks

If you don't have a computer at all then yeah it can be an upfront cost

But the longer you go as a PC user, your current build becomes a Ship of Theseus situation where you replace a part or two every few years, never truly getting a "new PC"

>>720329285
i hate being an europoor

>>720329606
what OP posted is more like upper mid range

>>720334762
a 5070 has 70% more performance than the base ps5's 6700xt you dumb illiterate cuckold
consoles just run shit at low and you can't tell the difference

>>720334847
You do realize that not everybody on the planet wants to take the atrocious amount of time to get good at mouse right? Most people want to sit down and play somewhat competitively with their buddies or just relax. This is the console market.

If two guys get together and fight each other 1v1, if theyre on controller both with aim assist, one is still going to come out on top. Because you can still outplay people.

>>720334885
I go long enough inbetween upgrades that this doesn't work, need new everything. I don't even trust the Power supply after all the voltage fluctuations and I want a new case so I don't have to totally scrap my old PC.

>>720334970
Numbers here, numbers there, it doesnt amount to a whole lot. Consoles are highly optimized and everything works in probably perfect tandem in the system. PCs arent always like that. Its not 1 to 1.

>>720334974
then why cry about those cheaters on pc if you accept cheats as a baseline on consoles?
neither earn their skill but you're the one coping about it thinking you're entitled to better performance

>>720335019
>highly optimized
a complete retard
no, those incompetent developers don't turn into pros just because they're developing for consoles
you just have less shit, that's it

>>720329221 (OP)
Buy used, and build your own, it's not that hard and saves you a FUCK load of cash

>>720335035
Because cheaters on PC are actually corrupting the way the game is meant to be played whereas on console everyone is playing the same way, just like PC. Its an even playing field on both, but PC allows hackers to get in. Thats the difference.

So in the real world, they still work more smoothly and developers probably neglect PC a lot more than console anyways still.

>>720329221 (OP)
STOP BUYING PREBUILTS
DEAR GOD LEARN TO ASSEMBLE THINGS
IF YOU'RE NOT A NIGGER WITH <90 IQ YOU CAN DO THIS AND SAVE 1000 DOLLARS

>>720334642
>>720334762

>>720335190
you're corrupting the way the game is meant to be played by thinking you deserve to be good while not wanting to learn, just like a cheater
the sole difference here is that you're emboldened by it because it's been sanctioned because everyone knows the consolecuck population is lazy as shit, even according to you
>You do realize that not everybody on the planet wants to take the atrocious amount of time to get good at mouse right?

>>720335276
Thats before being reconstructed to produce a 4k image, anon. Gotta do more research

>>720335294
Its not corrupting it though. its simply to overcome the natural disadvantage of single thumb control that is inherent to controllers. I dont know if you could ever get that good with it anyways. it would be a completely different story if only a few got aim assist on consoles while most didnt. That would be unfair and cheating, like how PC has it

>>720329762
The 660M iGPU falls short for this statement but you'd be mostly correct for the 780M. That thing is more powerful than my old dedicated GPU.

>>720329919
>elden ring with no stutters
That's not a real thing

If you're considering building a PC, use this - https://pcpartpicker.com/

>>720335323
>turns on DLSS

>>720335410
>the natural disadvantage of single thumb control that is inherent to controllers.
over who? the other controllers? console shooters would have a nice and quirky niche if no one had any aim assist at all
no one wants crossplay either, it doesn't matter how shit your input device is if you didn't earn it
besides you're playing COMPETITIVE games specifically, get fucking good, you're not entitled to it

>>720329350
prebuilts have never been cheaper than building your own, and they often cheap out on the PSU or mobo

Should I get a rtx 5070 super or an 5080 super.

I want 4k 60 ultra.

>>720329221 (OP)
>ryzen
=)

>5070
=(

>>720335575
You do realize that you could say the same thing about mouse as well right? you get entire hand and arm control that automatically gives you an advantage over console. controller aim assist simply is emulating that greater control.

>>720329221 (OP)
>5070, 2tb, 32gb
>midrange

>>720329221 (OP)
>isnt even an X3D

Prebuilts are so cucked

>>720329486
it arguably was in peak 2020/21 3000 series scalper prices but probably not any time since

>>720334642
And FWIW here's the benchmark I base this estimate at least when it comes to MGS3 Delta https://youtu.be/3KKQaVY5R3s?t=180 5060 drops into 50s into 40s for an extend amount of time when there's several enemies, dipping into 39 at the lowest. 5070 is like ~1.5 faster so at least in this scene it would've... only slightly dropped below 60 fps at least if we go naively by Techpowerup average performance difference. Worse yet, I see no reason to expect that early scene in the game would be the absolute GPU heaviest in the game.

Borderlands 4 performance I know less off but seems to be similarish to MGS3 Delta GPU wise except also heavier on CPU.

>>720329221 (OP)
Glass cases don't block EMF

>>720334642
>>720335874
No one with lower than a 5070 Ti uses DLAA/Native

>>720335725
why is there a need to emulate being good if you're not actually good?
should we reward a child with his cartoonish drawing over a professional painter with a beatiful painting because the child doesn't have the means to express his imagination?
you're playing competitive shit, they don't need consolation prizes
crossplay should be completely abolished and aim assist needs to be restricted to singleplayer because otherwise you end up with a disgusting situation like apex legends where there's no reason to get good because being a controllercuck just makes you good

>>720329350
It's cheaper to build yourself. You also get much much higher quality components. With pcpartpicker there is no excuse to not build your own.

>>720329586
>PS5 Pro and a Switch 2
No games unlike pc and you forgot price of games, retardo kun.

>>720329586
Can the PS5 generate AI furry porn to my specific artist and fetish tastes?

I thought not.

>>720336031
So if being a controllercuck just sends you right to the top then why isnt every single multiplayer match a dead heat? Why can you still get whooped on console?

>>720329221 (OP)
Could build that for like $1200 max
>>720336029
5070ti is only 10-25% faster depending on game
I have a 5070 and am usually cpu bound in anything that isn't path tracing or ue5 games on max settings with mods.

I'm never building a PC again. The gay niggers on Youtube leave out the part where you scrape up your hands or you drop a cable into the mess just putnof reach or it's just 3cm too short to get over there sucks to suck :) and all that garbage.

>>720330380
THAT is a decent build. I'd up the ram though, add a 5tb hdd, and bump up the GPU spec a couple notches.
>>720330565
They can be slightly cheaper. Cases can also be cheaper.

I recommend full ATX if anyone wants to mess with AI though. Throw in a random 2nd gpu.

>>720336060
Steam sales are identical to PS sales. Also PC cant play Switch 2 exclusives or GTA 6. Or Astro Bot. All it gets are broken console ports

>>720336194
Awww baby got a boo boo? Blood sacrifice is part of building PCs
>cable too short
I've never had that happen

>>720329343
>That's literally Switch 2 + Series X + PS5 combined
That's literally 0 games combined

>>720329586
>implying ps5 isn't turd
>implying switch 2 isn't turd.
Games cost money too.

>>720329640
List your 5 favourite PC exclusives of the last 18 months.

>>720336217
Actually it gets emulated console games that run at 2x resolution

>>720336126
>blowouts don't happen at the pro level

>>720336038
nigga a 5070 alone costs more than a ps5. pc gaming is not cheap and most devs dont even prioritize it.

>>720336293
What makes them a turd?
Games cost money on PC too

>>720335791
xDDD

>>720336294
L4D2, insurgency sandstorm, SQUAD, BeamNG, Honey Select
>>720336357
I got an AMD RX6800 at MSRP when everyone was batching GPUs were overpriced. Runs the games I want at 4k 60fps and does AI image Gen just fine too.

>>720336294
prepare for a flood of hentai games.

>>720336340
Okay then. Theres still a skill difference even if youre on controller. This isnt a hard concept.

>>720336416
None of those came out in the last 18 months, you retarded illiterate rock ape. Is this seriously how desperate you are?

>>720336416
and a 5070 is still more expensive than a ps5.

>>720336357
Go buy a 5060 then, that's still faster than a ps5 pro

>>720329221 (OP)
still better than a console

>>720336462
Don't matter. Even a Voodoo 3 can play more and better games than no games 5.

>>720336416
>L4D2, insurgency sandstorm, SQUAD, BeamNG, Honey Select
Jesus Christ I didnt realize the PC situation was this bad.

>>720336468
A 5060 doesnt have the power to run Death Stranding 2 or Astro Bot. Nor GTA 6.

>>720336541
>Death Stranding 2 or Astro Bot. Nor GTA 6.
Egads.

>>720336503
for $2k and then you have to be reminded every month that devs dont give a shit about your platform and pirates aren't as reliable as you tell yourself they are.

>>720336167
I have a 5070 Ti with a 9800X3D and it runs everything at 1080p max with raytracing and DLAA

>>720336217
>Steam sales are identical to PS sales.
no they're not
also there are literally no refunds on playstation
>Also PC cant play Switch 2 exclusives
timed exclusives
>or GTA 6.
you don't have that either
> Or Astro Bot.
that's progressing well actually
>All it gets are broken console ports
you can't even adjust your settings
your shit is broken by default
how about you mention all the things you don't get on consoles, like mods, the ability to do anything you like and play games without needing your goycorp's approval?
a pc plays more ps3 games than a ps5

>>720336587
>for $2k
Voodoo 3 for $2k?

PC gaming is shit until a 4k machine can be had for under $2,000

Why do snoys always have the need to pick a fight with everyone? And then they wonder why people call them cockroaches.

>>720336613
You can just get a real PS3 for 100 bucks and a PS5 and youd still be out better than a PC. PS3 emulation is horrible by the way.

>>720336627
supply and demand my autistic console curious friend.

>>720336596
5070 does too. That's why I'm always cpu bound

>>720336435
and you're taking a massive fat shit on that skill difference when the only real differentiator of it is whether the user is a nigger or stoned
consoles are made for stupid people who want to feel something and aim assist is included in that deal

>>720336456
>NOOO I MUST CONSOOOOOM
Not my problem. They all still get updates.

>>720336462
AMD is cheaper and performs better. Unless you require CUDA for AI.

>>720336525
>playing good games is bad
???

>>720336661
Why do pc players talk about playstation games so much? Dont they have their own?

>>720336416

>>720336694
>pay for old busted piece of shit and discs to play shit at 30fps
no thanks
i'd rather emulate

>>720336728
>asked to name a game from the past 1 and half years that is a pc exclusive (doesnt even need to be good)
>can't do it

>>720336456
>None of those came out in the last 18 months
And? Nothing good came out in the last 18 months.

>>720330754
>Except it doesnt get nigger sim lgbt edition 6
Don't care, i am not cattle.

>>720336718
Like with anything, there are extremists. Consoles are for the masses and are meant for more pure enjoyment. "You're never going to be the best sportsman in the world so youre stupid." Nah, you do it because you enjoy it and get as good as you can.

>>720329221 (OP)
>midrange
>RTX 5070
>2 TB SSD
>'AI' Ready
>VR compatible
>Buying prebuilt
>Paying extra to get chained to the M$ ecosystem

Sometimes getting fleeced is a choice, m8
Either that or you're purposefully obtuse to make a point that isn't true.

>>720330754
>cheaters galore
Gamepad emulators or whatever they are called are thing.

>>720329285
Most people can't find jobs right now. Everyone's saying the job market is frozen.

>>720336748
my dear little snoy, if you read the thread you'd realise you people are bringing your shit up unprompted
no one with triple digit iq actually gives a shit about gta6 no matter how hard you try to insert it into the conversation
those games were always aimed at teenagers

Imagine being a pc cuck. You get no good exclusives, you own nothing and you pay triple what any console costs for the pleasure.

Then when a good multiplat comes out it runs better on console and the pc community is on fire with chinks complaining and reviewbombing so hard it dribbles off to the side and hits BG3.

>>720329385
I mean, you do want a newer case since graphics cards are getting comically large.

>>720336875
Never ever

>>720336875
>you own nothing
my guy you literally need to jailbreak your shit to prevent the goycorp from totally controlling your toybox

>>720336782
>bro games don't count unless they are NEWWWW you need to BUY GAMESSS no it doesn't matter if they are still supported YOU MUST CONSOOOM
>no its not about having fun, it's about others NOT having fun!
Reminder PC has always had the most exclusives, and always will.

>>720336864
Only double digit IQ people pay a thousand dollars for a machine with no exclusives and poorly optimized ports.

>>720336875
>You get no good exclusives

I love my RTS games.

>>720336875
what good exclusives does the ps5 have?

>>720336901
Just go to e-hentai and get better content for free.

>>720336728
>AMD is cheaper and performs better
In the United States the 9070 is like $100 more expensive than the 5070. It's only negligibly faster in raster
9070xt is just straight up slower than a 5070ti and is another episode of "Nvidia -$50"

>>720336875
>no exclusives
PC has the most "exclusives". Exclusives themselves are a marketing gimmick to lock you into a hard ware ecosystem
>you own nothing
The hardware can be parted out or upgraded. I own the OS license or can use Linux for free
>pay triple what console people do
For a better experience. Also I can play every single SNES, GameCube, PS2, PS3, N64 game in existence, in 4k, for free.

Wtf happened to this board? prebuiltfags used to be considered more pathetic than consolefags.

>>720336992
>e-hentai
Limp wristed normie

>>720336981
GotY

>>720336924
>no exclusives
only retards play into the kike scheme of following developer bribes
nice admission there
>poorly optimized ports.
literally just lower the settings
if sometrhing runs like shit on a console you can't do anything about it, you're a slave

>>720332040
poor ragebait

>>720329820
>>720334957
It's a movieblob reference.

>>720337020
Zoomers heads are filled with shit after liberals took over the schools.

>>720337042
Do retards also refuse to spend thousands on a platform where all the multiplats are poorly optimized?

>>720337041
Never heard of that game.

>>720329221 (OP)
i paid more than that for my 2080 about 2 months before the 30 series was announced, i fucking hate being australian

>>720337020
zoomerniggers are too dumb to build a PC

>>720329221 (OP)
>2TB SSD
Really nigga?

>>720336728
So, you think it's a good idea to spend this kind of money to play Left 4 Dead 2, that can run on a 2015 laptop. And, these are your examples of amazing PC gaming.

You're a fucking retard.

>>720337127
Of course you didnt, it wasn't made for you.

>>720329285
It is for that computer. I bought basically the same system a year ago for $1300 and Dark Brandon's raised the price $500 in that time

>>720337215
>have fun
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
I recently beat that life 2 and it's one of the best games I've ever played.

>>720337228
Do you have an actual answer?

>>720337215
>So, you think it's a good idea to spend this kind of money to play Left 4 Dead 2
Yes, I need a gaming PC to play Fallout 2. You know why? Because your console can't.

>>720336875
>ummmmmm reviewing trash negatively is bad?
Consolefags, lmao.

>>720331146
>you will not be playing GTA6 on release
Damn, I wish I was a FOMO dopamine junkie addict like you so I gave a shit.

>>720337215
*half life 2

>>720337118
again, you can lower the settings and if you're spending thousands you're not getting a worse experience than the midrange console hardware because that's just not physically possible and you're coping pretending that upscaling vs native is a fair comparison
with a console you're a total goy dependent on what people that aren't you think is acceptable

>>720337280
>outing yourself as a casual

>>720337215
Also I make 4k furry porn images with my gaming PC. You can't do that on your console.

>>720337215
how much money do you need to spend to play left 4 dead 2 on a console?

>>720337335
>lower the settings

shamefur display might as well wave a white flag while you do it.

>>720329606
Lol I gotcha

>>720337398
Remember when they said the Xbox one would be gaming in 4k, then launch titles were below 720p?

>>720337215
>that can run on a 2015 laptop.
So not console.

>>720337381
zero because I'm not a casual and already put 500 hours into it 15 years ago.

But if I was a causal, Playstation gave it out for free as a monthly game. So free.

>>720337398
that's literally what the developers did with your console
also ultra is a retarded consoomer mindset

These zoomer console shitters are insane

>>720337441
remember when pc games performed worse than their xbox counterparts? Oh wait thats an ongoing thing.

>>720337461
you can play left4dead2 on your ps5?

>>720337514
>hey you remember when (thing I completely made up)?
Lmaooo consoles use off the shelf PC components, dude. They just turn down the settings strategically.

>pay 1/2/3k dollars for a 4chan shitposting machine

That's gotta sting.

Is it worth getting a 5090 for the extra VRAM to be future proof? 4090s have been sold out everywhere online but my local bestbuy seems to have some in stock

>>720337535
yes and for free

>>720337582
>pay money for an omni device that's good at everything
what's exactly the problem here?
why would i want to whip out my phone to use a browser when i have a perfectly capable device right here?

>>720329221 (OP)
>prebuilt buying negroids will pay a 500 dollar premium to have their PC assembled by retards making minimum wage
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMMvMC

>>720337667
Not good at running new games or owning them.

>>720337656
>Platform(s)
Microsoft Windows
Xbox 360
Mac OS X
Linux
???

>>720337582
Why yes, I paid for spatial shitposting, how did you know?

>>720337641
future proofing is a meme on the gpu.
for 4k you want a 5070ti, lower resolutions the 5070
If you're in the United States radeon is an objectively bad buy.
What are you upgrading from?

>5070 is midrange
bait used to be believable

>>720337381
$0 at this point. There are multiple console versions of L4D/L4D2.

>>720334616
>Do zoomers really not have computers? You guys do everything on your phones?
You don't anything more than a basic laptop for study and shit
Our phones can do everything else

>>720329343
And will last longer than those. Your point?

You're paying upfront for hardware that'll be upgraded as needed when you need to upgrade, which at $1,800 shouldn't be for the lifetime of the those consoles and the next ones.

>>720337748
but it does run them better?
your ceilling is our floor in terms of standards, no one wants to play shit at 30fps
i don't live in a slave ecosystem and pc has inherent functionality that prevents me from losing games
you should be more concerned about your console being a complete babyfied black box where you can only access the surfacemost layer and where your hardware can get banned off the internet

>>720329350
No, and never has been.

>>720336104
>Can the PS5 generate AI furry porn to my specific artist and fetish tastes?
>
>I thought not.
Yes we all know PCtroons are sloppa gooners

>>720336770
You can jailbreak a ps3 dumbass.
>>720337016
>PS3
No you can't PS3 emulation is still pretty shit, I still remember the videos of RDR1 before it came out on PC.

>>720337367
>Also I make 4k furry porn images with my gaming PC. You can't do that on your console.
Yiff in hell

>>720337790
upgrading from a prebuilt with a 4070 and an i7-13700f. Got it from a friend on a pretty good deal. Never really had an issues playing games on 1440p, but I want to be able to play 4k and gen video sloppa too.

>>720338107
what if i don't want to play shit at 30fps like a blind cuck?

>>720329285
This.

>>720337190
That's what a pro has

>>720329350
depends if you can find a good sale. earlier in the year i saw a prebuilt with a 4090 in it on newegg for sale @ 1600, the card in it was already worth more than that at the time but it was already sold out lol. Best bet would checking for refurbish sales if you're willing to risk it and trying to avoid building your own

>>720336424
>prepare for a flood of hentai games.
PCfags do nothing but goon all day and erp on steam

>>720329350
no, there's no reason to buy a prebuilt post covid
build your own shit you lazy bum

consoletrannies are not real, people in 4chan are not that retarded

>>720337641
5090 is future proof for 1440p but not exactly future proof for 4k/VR, more like the baseline.

>>720330380
>ryzen 5500 pcie 3.0
at this piss poor cpu budget might as well settle with an 5060, the bottleneck will made that gpu useless

>>720329606
It's the soda that'll kill you

>>720337293
So you're the real life example of a fool and his money are soon parted

>>720337641
no, at this point you wait for the next generation
this is like buying a 980ti a year before the 1000 series released

>>720338424
But I'm not the one buying tendieschlop and snoyshit.

>>720338402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1NPFFRTzLo
literally irrelevant

>>720338491
its inrelevant until you play cpu intensive games like helldivers 2, its not going to be enjoyable

>>720338186
Then I hope you like crashes and shit oerformance because you're also getting that in emulation.

>>720338141
I would honestly just wait another gen if you don't want or can't afford a 5090.
5080 could be a good upgrade but it's pricing is fucking retarded
Also rumor is that the super series has been delayed to 2026 too, if you were thinking any about those.

You can make a 4070 work at 4k, dlss performance is better than you might think. Only reason I suggest a 70ti over a 70 for 4k is the vram. 12gb you need to be more careful with settings, don't just max everything out blindly.

>>720330380
5500 is legit dogshit though even if it's faster or equal to whats in the gaystation. Not even good enough for 60 now.
If you're trying to be cheap or for whatever reason don't want an am5 x3d you should go lga 1700

>5070
>"AI ready"
>$1,800

>>720338547
that's a proof of concept build meant to illustrate that consoles aren't worth their hardware
so yes, irrelevant

>>720329221 (OP)
Now let's try to build a PC with PS5-like specs... Uh oh.....

>>720330380
imagine still recommending people going for am4 platform in late 2025 for the sake of 16gb vram gpu meme, you don't cheap out on cpu like this

>>720338592
>shit performance
but i'm getting way more than 30fps on an emulator?
maybe revise your definitions of words if you're struggling this badly

>>720338724
i'm not recommending it, i'm just demonstrating that consoles aren't competing on hardware

>>720329385
Not really, but some do have nice ways to hide cables. I, for one, also prefer having the PSU sectioned off. Unironically, the glass cases are nice for debugging shit sometimes as the mother boards can have error codes on them via LEDs.

>>720337641
Caring about hardware is gay. Get what does what you need and don't worry. It will be obsolete in 1 year anyways.

>>720337949
I accept your concession. Don't act like you don't look at porn.

>>720338107
Ps3 emulation is playable now.

RX 9060, B650 motherboard and 8500G or F would be mid range.
And with 16GB RAM and SSD it would be around $1000.

>>720329221 (OP)
You can build that cheaper buying the parts individually and putting it together yourself.
You always pay a significant amount extra to get it prebuilt.

>>720329343
funny because it can play almost all their games and then some
>for free

only on 4chan could full grown adults still think their children's toy competes with a home office

>>720335791
99% of people don't need X3D. You are almost always better off getting a bigger GPU, which you can then get more improvement by getting a higher res monitor, making you GPU bound once again, etc etc...
X3D is for people with deep pockets and esports fags, not mid range like OP suggests

>>720329350
Mobo+RAM+CPU bundle combos run you about $500. A 5070 should be available at MSRP now, so that's another $550. For that setup, you can cheap out on the case and get a budget cooler like a peerless assassin for another $150 combined, and a 750w PSU for another $100. Finally, a 2tb SSD that's good enough for gaymen would be $100, so in total, you'd be spending ~$1400 total if you can put it all together yourself. Hell, you can save even more if you don't buy a case, and just do a test bench build.

>>720329285
Trvke. People under 30 will never understand that anything under 5k is a "meh" tier expense, and it only goes up from there.

>>720329343
$450 is only a lot of money when nintendo does it.

>>720329221 (OP)
buy a mini pc from minisforum/gmk or whatever with occulink/thunderbolt and use an egpu setup. Much cheaper for low-end/mid range.

Will be able to game on the low-end without egpu plugged in, mid-range with it plugged in.
Flexible, portable, cheaper.