Thread 720340478

>"Bad patents like this cast a massive shadow on the industry."
Oh my days! Nintendo being bad actors?! Oh no!

>macaco thread
-1 karma to Sony

>>720340478 (OP)
Gamers are retarded so honestly I don't blame higher ups for all the shit they pull

>>720340478 (OP)
nintendo are the good guys though

>>720340478 (OP)
and none will challenge the patent because they are fags

>>720340478 (OP)
It went through because old people generally don't play video games so they just saw big company Nintendo put out some random shit and they approved it without even giving it the slightest bit of investigation since it was only video game shit they don't care about.

>>720340478 (OP)
>Florian Muller Thread
We have had "Everyone patents everything" for over 30 years.
Fucking Capcom has a Monster Tracking Patent in Monster Hunters.
Lets not fucking pretend this is a new trend and that the industry is about to be flipped upsidedown

>>720340478 (OP)
Just let 50Ytendo kill gayming already and then hope somebody is less retarded to game vimeo gaems 2.0 without this kind of bullshit. If not, repeat until the collapse of the sun.

>>720340718
Somebody should dress up a patent on breaking into old peoples' homes and stealing all their medicine, so that can also get mindlessly passed.

>>720340478 (OP)
Didn't USA have a whole department dedicated specifically to stop this kind of patent abuse?

Why can't we just remove software patent?

>>720340880
Small government, bro
Next step to make the government even smaller is to remove the patent office altogether along with the very concept of copyright
Let the free market be free

Im just confused why stuff like saying a string of events that happen in video game are patentable

you didnt invent anything you just remixed a bunch of things that anyone can do without your ideas

>>720340478 (OP)
Let me guess, "they're" upset that they didn't come with this first?

>>720340803
Nintendo is gaymes2.0 you dumb nigger
>Tendie
I want tendo to die.

>>720341129
>repeat until the collapse of the sun
i guess we will need a vimeo gaems 3.0 then

>>720340478 (OP)
>Look up the patent
>It's hyper specific to the Gen 9 auto battling system down to the images and exact mechanics
>These threads have been going for days and it's basically nothing

???

>>720340478 (OP)
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAA
NINTENDO THIS IS-A NOT-A GOOD BEHAVIOR
WE.
MUST.
BE.
BETTER.
MEN.

>>720341251
faggot contratians are so sad

>>720341251
Well "anime is illegal in Texas" didnt take off, and the 15 year old shut in doing this has no experience or frame of reference outside of 2010s nintendo games and tranime, so here we are.

>>720340478 (OP)
Video game patents simply should not be a thing. But of course they'll fight to keep it because someone collects a paycheck to accept their bullshit.

>>720340572
If Nintendo filed a lawsuit about "this pal is just this pokemon and this pokemon combined" I might support that. But trying to own "systems were a summoned creature fights another?" Yeah go straight to hell.

>>720340880
sure, but you just bribe them and that's that.

>>720340572
said nobody ever

I know this is purely because whoever approves this stuff isn't into vidya, but it begs the question why there isn't someone who's knowledgeable in the field to oversee these kinds of things

>>720340478 (OP)
You shouldn't be able to patent any game mechanics.

Simple as.

>>720340554
gamers may be retarded
but USPTO employees suppose to be smart
and they clearly aren't

>>720343393
Mods, delete this vile antisemitism at once.

Every company should sue Nintendo for patent trolling.

>>720341946
id be surprised if they hadnt tried that,

This should be easy enough to get tossed out as other companies should lay claim to both since neither mechanic is new nor created by Nintendo

>>720340478 (OP)
This is patent trolling. This is absolutely patent trolling, no matter how you look at it. This shit doesn't fly in the patent offices, and they have ways that ENTIRELY NORMAL PEOPLE can contest this shit. Nintendo can lawfully be pegged in the ass over this and they can't do shit in return.

Stupid shit gets approved by the patent office all the time and it has to get challenged and thrown out in court. I know somebody who makes a living off of making patent trolls lose court cases

>>720340572
>writing the word N*intendo without a written authorization from them
Enjoy your 2 million dollar fine

Everyone should come together to sue Nintendo for patent trolling.

They clearly are only using the patents to assert them against alleged infringers.

>>720340824
So then you could sue people who break into old peoples homes because you own the patent to it... it wouldn't make it legal but you'd be able to sue people who do it.

>>720340478 (OP)
*yawn* another p*lworld shill trying to destroy Nintendo

>>720343573
I don't care about revenge against Nintendo. Game mechanics patents should just be abolished. Then we could get that Nemesis system back that WB has been sitting on the rights for.

>NOOOOOO HECKIN' NINTENDO IS BEING MEAN TO MY CHINK FOTM SLOPPA AND ROLL SLOP
Nintendo couldn't be more based.

a reminder that 'big powerful scary' Nintendo lost a fucking case to a GROCERY STORE.

How the fuck are they allowed to patent Prior Art?

>>720343950
You know based is co-opted by trannies now right?
This is why you make new shit and stop relying on shit that even grandmothers on facebook use now. You dumb cunt.

Do they just let old retard judges who have never even used a computer approve every software patent in the USA

IBM had a patent for the fucking loading bar

>>720343950
Megami Tensei invented Pokemon gameplay in the 80s way before Pokemon even existed

What exactly stop me from putting a patent on the sun?

It ends when you want it to end. Luigi showed you the way.

Don't really care. If you're going to rip-off Nintendo then you deserve to pay the price.
Maybe the industry should innovate instead of look over the shoulder of Nintendo for everything. Patents like this ensure that there's healthy competition and again, more innovation and creativity.

>>720340478 (OP)
>the law makes it illegal to own your own ideas
>piracy is STILL worse than this kind of shit

>>720344427
>Megami Tensei invented Pokemon gameplay in the 80s way before Pokemon even existed
Very cool. May I see their patent for summoning?

>>720344249
>completely and utterly fucking boiling about the fact Nintendo is dabbing on xirs like xirself
KWAB. Not only will you never be a woman, you will never get to summon others in your rollslop.

>>720344854
generally people martyr themselves over things like occupation and access to basic human rights
you want to martyr yourself over... palworld...

>>720340718
If you think about it, if we're going to give old people money just for being old, legally they should be barred from holding jobs past a certain age as well.
I think a major problem with society is that old people won't relinquish jobs they should have decades ago.

>>720340478 (OP)
Japs are worse thank chinks
Fucking snakes

>>720340478 (OP)
>>720340554
>>720341946
>>720342075
>>720343573
Shut the fuck up, snoy.

>>720340968
It’s not very free if patents are allowed. That’s pretty much the exact opposite. Murray Rothbard used to speak at length about this.

>>720340478 (OP)
>Meanwhile sony and ms can get patents all day every day
nintendo haters are truly pathetic

>>720340478 (OP)
don't give a fuck about any video game IP lawyer I want to hear what lawmakers in Japan are saying about this unprecedented overreach and wether they just say no and keep the status quo or feel the need to send a message for uppity companies like Nintendo to take heed with

>>720345359
unironically leave them alone, they struggle enough

>>720345359
Isn't that exactly what you're doing, with a multi-national billionaire company instead?

>Nintendo is worse than EA in terms of anti consumer practices
What a weird timeline we live in

>>720344045
Wasn't that in Brazil or something? I'm sure their local courts didn't appreciate a Japanese conglomerate throwing their weight around a continent away and that worked in their favor.

>>720345579
Palsnoys deserve to pay for what they did to this board.

>>720345638
>>720345652
Except Nintendo is the main protagonist of gaming. They're generally the only company that knows the balance of turning profit while still being an ally to their fans.

I've said it before and I'll say it again and again and again and again.
It is fairly amusing we live in an time that simultaneously demonstrates what is WRONG with copyright and intellectual property law
>Nintendo snatching up entirely spurious patents to attack a competitor's product that already exist
And why they exist in the first place
>Techfag niggers defrauding boomers to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars with petabytes of stolen intellectual property including the current fucking president of the United States.

>>720340880
Small indie government pls andastan

>>720340478 (OP)
>full stop
I am now pro-nintendo.

>>720345846
>C&D's fan games
>shuts down emulation sites so they can charge you a 8th time for an NES rom
>patents game mechanics so no company can ever try their own hand at a genre they've touched
>censors their games and rereleases to the extreme lengths of California's insane sensibilities
I know you're trolling, but I thought I should add some additional context so everyone else can be in on the joke.

>>720345846
>an ally to their fans
Oh thats a good one, almost got me lmao.

>>720346086
>>720346091
You're trying way too hard, Palworld shill.

>>720346086
Oh go fuck yourself, Eric.

>a company who makes games I don't play files patents for mechanics I don't like, to prevent other companies whose games I do not play from making games I would not play regardless
it's just more proof that the industry is dying and they're getting desperate. if you're still buying new games, you are the problem.

>>720341946
>But trying to own "systems were a summoned creature fights another?" Yeah go straight to hell.
pretty sure they sued them over the pokeballs, not the "using summons to fight". they aren't suing digimon or SMT after all.

>>720344854
it's gonna be really fucked up when some Palworld schizo actually does go after Miyamoto over this.

>>720346539
Considering SMT predates pokemon that would be rather stupid of them. Then again with how retarded IP law is they probably could.

>>720346539
They keep patenting new things. You're only describing the first thing they threw at them. "A monster that fights another monster and you can control it sometimes" is the latest one that the OP article and many others are (rightfully) taking issue with. Nintendo literally keeps adding more to the pile.

>>720340478 (OP)
wow big surprise, console industry are morally evil and retarded. PC GODS win again by doing literally nothing

>>720345846
High level trolling. Respect

>b-but muh SMT, muh Persona!
Watching all of these glue eaters have a meltdown over this has been amazing. I fucking love Nintendo.

>>720346539
That had no right to sue them over that at all
Capsules as an intellectual property aggressively precede pokemon.
Aside from mascot characters like Lucario or Pikachu, the most iconic thing in pokemon is itself the intellectual property of other people.

>>720346739
On modern /v/ there's no better trolling than just being honest about liking something.

>>720346740
this "new" patent isn't even anything special, they're just working themselves into a frenzy over nothing

>>720340478 (OP)
that's okay
nintendo doesn't have a future
japan's birthrates are abysmal and whites aren't having kids either
and both countries are already being flooded with jeets, nogs and muzzies
based jews
i support these jewish lawsuits and jewish companies like nintendo

The cult of the tendie really is strange.

>>720346928
this but snoys

>>720346739
Not an argument.

>>720341251
The saddest part is that your post went almost completely ignored.

>>720346928
Go fuck yourself, snoy.

>>720346884
that's been every game news site any time nintendo does ANYTHING for the last like 5 years. almost feels like there's some kind of agenda here....

>>720346928
>The cult of Palworld and Snoy really is strange
Went ahead and fixed that for you.

>>720346960
>>720347017
>>720347076
Case in point. Do they not realize how this looks?

>>720340478 (OP)
>>720346928
>>720346086
Palworld lost and it lost hard.

>>720346928
look >>720346923
they don't have too long
it's like what, a couple decades before jap cucks and white cucks are just about 1% of the global population
after that, their birthrates and their beloved scummy corporation are never recovering
let timmy and takeshi eat each other's shit all they want, let them enjoy their dying years doing what they love

>>720347063
Or Nintendo is being so retarded even game journalists can recognize it.

>>720347159
it takes a special kind of retard to be into INWO cuckshit
at least niggers are sometimes athletic

>>720346642
I think the best part is when they patented this bullshit and then backdated it to before the palworld lawsuit so they could claim Palworld broke copyright even though Palworld announced it years ago and Nintendo only paid attention when Palworld blew up.

>>720347261
i'm just stating facts, sorry they don't align with your feelings buddy

>>720347167
>being so blind with hate you actually decide to side with the game journalists
there really is no low nintendo haters won't sink to, huh?

Please for the love of god, stop Nintendo's patent abuse. Can't it be reported?

>>720347323
bro you're simping for the ugliest, smelliest, most dysgenic people on the planet
what's wrong with you

>>720347437
no, i'm not simping for anyone
i'm simply reporting what's true and happening in the real world while timmy and takeshi are busy defending their beloved scummy corporation online
i think getting white cucks and jap cucks hooked up on corpo worship was a genius move by jews

Nintendo will do ANYTHING but tell their devs to make a better game.

>>720347437
>the ugliest, smelliest, most dysgenic people on the planet
You mean people who defend Palworld?

>>720347416
I got banned during gamergate so this isn't a card you can pull on me.
I'm not going to reactively declare the sky to be red because some dickhead at ign said it was blue.

>>720347598
KEK

>>720347579
>literally 3/5 of the highest rated games of all time are Nintendo
Oh oh, stinky.

>>720347598
PALSNOYS BTFO

the year's 2050, nintendo is now filled with jeets who can't code for shit and use ai sloppa for art
the latest zelda title has a brown jeet protagonist and of course the princess zelda is still white with blonde hair and green eyes
mario franchise has been renamed to saario, saario is also a brown jeet and is canonically married to the white blonde haired blue eyed princess peach
the future of nintendo is very poopy!

>>720347714
Yet when people decided to look elsewhere because quality was stagnating Nintendo decided it was better to sue everyone attempting to pull in people.

>>720347819
"everyone" meaning just palworld

>>720347598
put me in the screencap
fuck palworld

>>720347690
>I'm not going to reactively declare the sky to be red because some dickhead at ign said it was blue.
yeah, but you'll think its a bad thing some small time crook got fucked over for selling bootleg systems because IGN told you he was the victim.

Patent office is clearly broken. You can't patent mechanics in an TTRPG so why is it so different for games?

>>720347598
haha poopoo peepee take that palworld!

why is journalism retarded? not only is the patent old (like fucking two years old), the mechanism is very specific that so far not one game aside from Arceus does it

>>720347819
Why are Palsnoys so ass blasted Nintendo sued a shitty chinkoid FOTM slop made with stolen assets?

>>720347598
Snoys obliterated.

>>720346086
>No valid criticisms in response to this post only autistic screeching
The nerve you struck was fucking deep

>>720348107
Why are nintencultists so assblasted about a game that is nothing like pokemon in anyway other than you can summon monsters.

>>720348138
>DURR LOOK AT HOW RETARDED I AM!!!!!! DURRR DUHHH! LOOK AT ME I'M RETARDED NINTENDOOMED! XDDdd HURRRR
>gets called retarded
>HAHAHAHA U BUTTHURT!! DA TENDIES MAD!!! I WAS MERELY PRETENDING TO SHITPOST!!!!!!!! PALBROS WIN MAKE MORE SHITPOST SHILL THREADS!!!
Snoys, everyone.

>>720347598
BASED

Patents are gay and holding humanity back.
We got here by stealing decent & good ideas and trying to make them better over time. If an improved idea picked up someone would later pick it up and try to improve it some more.

>>720348278
good thing patents don't work that way

i'll be buying pokemon legends za to accelerate white and jap genocide
the sooner jews get rid of these cucks, the sooner nintendo and their countries get flooded with jeets
based jews

yawn, every company does this
more nintendo derangement syndrome
still buying the next pokemon
still buying a switch 2

>>720348410
based and same
we need to accelerate white cuck and jap cuck genocide by supporting jews

>>720347694
>>720347756
>>720347881
>>720348110
>>720348271
>Tendie is samefagging his own post
We know you are retarded but this is plain sad

>>720348514
this

>>720348025
Because “games journalism” is just Reddit-tier Discord mods with a WordPress login pretending they’re Woodward and Bernstein. They don’t fact check, they don’t read the actual patent, and half of them don’t even play the games they write about. It’s just vibes-based outrage bait to farm clicks. Give it a week and they’ll be back to talking about how Mario’s hat is problematic.

>>720347598
Bro seriously pulled a no u and tendies are acting like it was the comeback of the century

>>720348278
Patents are generally fine because they're specific and expire in a reasonable timeframe. It's software patents specifically that are cancer, because you can monopolize extremely broad abstract concepts and split hairs to get infinite patents for the same thing.
Copyright on the other hand is a joke and rightfully laughed at and flouted by everybody. Except the Japanese who have a batshit insane version of IP law where you can't even alter your copy of a work without violating the author's "right to integrity".

>>720340478 (OP)
So now what happens? No more Souls games?

>>720348514
>>720348550
Seething snoy.

Nintendo invented videogames

>>720348610
No games ever until Universal sue Nintendo for copying King Kong again and then the videogame industry dissolves

>>720348514
>Palworld shill is malding after being BTFO'd

>>720341251
Facts don't make engagement unless it's for the downfall of something people wanted to happen, bucko, outrage culture over blatant misinterpretation from deliberately vague and doomer-esque article headers does.
This is post-COVID internet, arguably even post-2016 US elections internet, keep the fuck up with what works and what doesn't.

Tendies are genuinely the worst posters on /v/

It's funny that tendies think they have a chance of winning this case

>>720348552
the fact that a lot of news outlets think the report came from a lawyer (nope, it came from a muskrat blogger) is hilarious

>>720348747
Snoys, PCsnoys, and Palworld shills are genuinely the worst posters on /v/
Agreed.

>>720340478 (OP)
No one will stop them.

>>720340572
In what fucking universe?

>>720348765
Nintendo has legitimately never lost a case in their history you're a delusional snoy if you think this is suddenly gonna be an exception.

>>720348747
Very cool, Snoytranny, except we /v/irgins have polled this question umpteenth times and the answer is and always will be Snoytrannies as the most effeminate, insufferable fanbase. Cope and sneed.

>>720348747
TRVKE

>>720348765
nigger what case
it's a patent, and they already had it granted

>>720348747
This but snoys/Palfaggots.

>>720340478 (OP)
People patent shit all the. Whether or not it holds up in a legal case is another story.

>>720348164
You seem confused. I, like statistically 99% of the people who bought this sloppa, forgot it existed. If it weren't for seethe threads like this, I'd never remember.

>>720340968
>Remove copyright so the free market is free
Do commies/jews/browns actually believe this

>>720348573
the thing about "software patent" is that gamers have a bad idea on how it works. They think it's the "nebulous idea being patented", but rather the systems and programs that run the idea. Yes, you can have two monsters being caught in balls. No, you can't have two monsters being caught in balls using the same logic and programming.

>>720347290
Nintendo isn't suing for copyright infringement.

>>720346086
>so they can charge you a 8th time for an NES rom

hey, even better, now you can rent a select few for only a few dollars a month! wow, what a steal!

>>720348932
So forgotten about that Nintend are still trying to sue them and ramped up their patents lmao

>>720348691
No u, get owned.
You must accept this as a good comeback since that was what you were samefagging about

>>720340478 (OP)
>Kojima invented camera
>Miyamoto invented jumping
>The Pokemon Company invented riding animals
wtf video game developers are geniuses?

>>720348747
Funny, because you snoys and PCvegans are always voted as the worst.

>>720348278
Patents were made to protect the small individual from big corpo stepping on them and stealing their ideas.
The sad thing is the legal system considers corporate conglomerates as single individuals which gives them the same leeway as the individual except with millions more in funding. Couple that with the fact that the legal system, to this day, STILL hasn't caught up with the digital age (since we keep hiring the same 80 year old dinosaurs to run the country that we have for the past half century for some reason), and it now exists as a weapon for companies to smash into dust, including the individual creators they were meant to protect in the first place. The fact that SKG had to happen AT ALL is proof that our "justice" system is extremely out of touch with the modern world.

famitsu isn't even out yet

>>720349143
>ramped up their patents
what is this even supposed to mean

>>720346962
I admit your trollcession

>>720348951
This sounds retarded, that'd mean ninty would have to show source code

>>720349243
patents and SKG aren't really in the same ballpark

i have already convinced an entire group of jeets living in delhi to move to japan where they will find beautiful young virgin japanese girls that like indian men
i do this every day
just tell them they will be treated like bollywood stars and guide them through the process

>>720347156
Ok now tell me how much money are they giving to you from those profits
If you don't reply or say "none" you are retarded and should kill yourself.

>>720349315
None. My favorite company being successful brings me more joy than you'll ever have.

>>720349143
Tell china to stop stealing, it's that easy.

>>720349310
Fucking based

>>720349283
that's literally how patents are anon, they're fucking intricate
the common people laugh when they see the pictures and think patents are just that, but it's actually very detailed with long paragraphs

>>720348876
Fucking lmao. They lost to Game Genie in 1992 and Anascape in 2011. They even lost to a small mom & pop shop literally this year.
It's hilarious how delusional tendies are.

>>720349302
I know they're different things, but both have to do with how retarded our legal system is and shows that the old farts running the courts don't belong there.

>>720349407
>he thinks NoA is the same as Nintendo

>>720345123
They don't get to draw the money until they retire, though.

>>720349373
What a sad pathetic existence, siding with companies who will never even know you exist.

>>720349393
Stealing what?
PalWorld is nothing like Pokemon in any sense.
It's closer to Ark Survival Evolved.
But also you fucking retard.
PalWorld devs are Japanese.

>>720349373
>Nintendo is his "favorite company"
You must be 18 or older to post here

>>720345846
tsmt

>>720349315
He's getting all the money they invest into making their games better when he buys those games, so like maybe a million dollars or something idk

>>720349373
based
once nintendo becomes a bharat BVLL company, you should phull sapport without any obligations
>>720349398
indian BVLLs are going to take over japan and west
what timmy and takeshi gon do? lmao

>>720349283
eh just flowchart/pseudo code is enough.

>>720349457
Nintendo of Japan won't exist 20 years from now. Bug country is dying.

>>720349509
any time now

>>720345283
not gonna work tendie, consolefaggotry has been over for a decade now
jfc you manchildren are pathetic

>>720348558
it's one dude samefagging hard.

>>720349468
>PalWorld is nothing like Pokemon in any sense.
how come they're infringing on pokemon patents then

Can't wait for Nintendo to patent taking a big fucking steamy shit so they can retroactively sue the entire population for doing it for years without paying them.

>>720348747
i hope they're trolling and in cahoots on a shitcord cause this is sad.

>>720349532
your birthrates will climb up! any time now! just two more weeks haha!

>>720349487
and that's just the images
what people aren't sharing are the whole written essays

>>720340478 (OP)
This is absurd! Seems like everyone is finally waking up to Nintendo's bullshit tho. I expect Switch 2 sales to plummet.

>>720344756
Nothing. You just gotta wait for someone else to make a sun and sue his ass off.

>>720349557
You mean the patents Nintendo filed AFTER PalWorld was announced?

i am indian pokeCHAD and i am going to move to japan with my entire extended family
dare stop me, dalit japnees

>>720349565
yes anon, I'm glad declining birthrates mean a country will magically disappear in twenty years

>>720340478 (OP)
>videogame IP lawyer
oh so he actually represent some company?

>>720349487
>>720349404
But pseudo code can be translated into code a billion ways, how can you avoid infringing on such vaguery

>>720349487
>Nintendo patents throwing objects at target
>This is OK

>>720349560
not your snoyfespace
you can have your little seethe threads, but you can't keep me from posting in here

>>720349649
thank you for building all those countries for us
we have over a billion people who could use those after your cuck race is gone

>>720349678
If you are defending Nintendo, you should rethink your entire life.

>>720348747
yep
this entire thread proves it

>>720349557
Lmao “infringing on patents.” Bro, Nintendo’s patents are so broad they could slap them on any game with monsters and call it a day. By that logic Digimon, Monster Hunter, Yu-Gi-Oh, even bloody Minecraft with mobs would be “infringing.” Palworld isn’t Pokémon, it’s Ark with guns and capitalism. You don’t catch ‘em all, you enslave them for factory labor. Totally different vibe. If patents worked the way you think, Nintendo would own half the gaming industry.

>>720349624
look at the dates on those patents please

>>720349565
Only Jeets Jews and retards spout the birthrate meme for homogenous cultures. Japan would literally benefit from losing 20% of it's population to natural causes

>>720349619
Sales have already started plummeting because no games

>>720349659
That's the funny thing. He isn't.
>>720349665
Do you know the whole "but muh loading screen minigames" shit people like to yell on? Okami managed to do so fine. Turns out the actual patent is "loading gameplay mechanics in memory" or some shit like that.
Almost like articles like to turn things easier for the layman to read but it creates confusion.

>>720348747
This. So. Much.

>>720349725
They are backdated, idiot. He's right, they were filed AFTER Palworld released.

>>720349731
we are coming to your countries and taking over
cry about it, dalit

>>720349734
Good. Hope they go bankrupt and be forgotten soon.

>>720349724
buddy they're getting sued
none of those other guys are getting sued, do the math

Remember the rules
>Shitting on palworld for being a lame game
Not bait.
>Sucking/defending off nintend𐐬
They're baiting for rage and (you)s and even then they're so retarded they don't even deserve the attention.

so where's the k-popbug spamming ritualposter?
he claims to love offtopic threads but he's nowhere to be seen on astroturfed raid slop

>>720348747
>tendibvlls...le bad!
>just ignore cubesnoys, 64snoys, raresnoys, segasnoys, ps2snoys, wiisnoys, tpsnows, windwakersnoys, segasnoys, snoys, decksnoys, and steamies ruining every nintendo-related thread on 4chan for the last 15 years!
go back

>>720349829
Nintendo will sue them in the future if they are allowed to do anything they want

>>720349665
>>720349670
idk what you're going for but this patent cover specifically the pokemon SV system, they have another 4 flowcharts to describe it. To infringe shit i think it would have to be more than one part of it. I'm not even sure if the lawyer guy actually read the document.

>>720349829
“Buddy they’re getting sued” yeah, no shit, companies sue all the time when they think they can make money or scare competition. It doesn’t magically mean it’s a valid case. If Nintendo’s patents weren’t written like a toddler’s Christmas list (“monsters + fighting + trading = ours”), half the industry would be in court. Digimon, Monster Rancher, Temtem, SMT all untouched. Do the math, genius: it’s not about copying, it’s about Nintendo swinging their wallet hoping something sticks.

>>720349751
>"loading gameplay mechanics in memory" or some shit like that.
lol if anything that just makes it worse

>>720349896
Come on, you are reaching too hard just to defend Nintendo.

>>720349751
Man, I should pattent my game rendering 3d graphics

>>720349560
Wrong, you are getting destroyed by expert counter-trolls.

>>720349884
>the voices in my head told me so

>>720349897
did you even read the patents you're bitching about?
and no, listening to yong yea spout BS about it does not count
the actual documents

>>720340572
t. Cardboard enjoyner

>>720349870
Forgot palsnoys and xsnoys.

>>720349845
the thing is, (You)s are literally useless, i know there's an addon that keeps tabs on it for the extension but that's as far as validation goes

is it actual, unironic unfiltered autism?

>>720349993
Holy shit stop kissing Nintendo's feet for a second will you?

>>720350067
(you)s are attention, attention = dopamine.

>>720349751
>That's the funny thing. He isn't.
wtf is even he an IP lawyer?

>>720349992
so trolls
again, pretending to be retarded attracts actual retards
but then again, they ARE the actual retards

>A small indie dev released a monster catching game that was more soulful than any Pokemon release in the last decade at least
>It was also super successful
>This made made Nintendo froth in rage in part due to GF's incompetence being exposed to the world
And that's why we have the patent fuckery going on right now

>>720349993
Did I read them? Bro, you can’t even read a cereal box without moving your lips. Don’t project your illiteracy onto me. Nintendo’s patents are so laughably broad they may as well patent “pressing buttons to make a thing happen on screen.” And here you are, parroting “dId YoU rEaD tHe DoCuMeNtS” like some courtroom prodigy when in reality you’re just regurgitating X threads you barely skimmed. The only “document” you’ve ever studied cover-to-cover is the back of a Hot Pocket box, champ.

>>720350151
so no, you didn't read them
glad we cleared that up

>>720348747
The amount of tendie butthurt this post caused proves it right.

>>720348747
It wouldn't be so bad if they actually admitted to Nintendo's fuckups while still enjoying other aspects of their games but tendies literally worship the company like a god. It really is a sign of mental illness. Only Fromsoft fans come close to them.

>>720350204
Oh, so I didn’t read them? Let’s break it down. Nintendo’s patents literally include:
>“Throwing a ball at characters in a field” (JP ‘191)
>“Sub‑characters” with very specific battle sequences (US ‘397)
>“Ride switching” mechanics with the phrase ‘even when’ added mid‑lawsuit to broaden the language (JP ‘390’)

Yeah, Palworld used to have ball-throwing and ride-switching. Congrats, you’ve discovered how every open-world monster game works. That doesn’t magically make it Pokémon. The patents are written so insanely broad they could cover literally any game with creatures and mounts. If that actually counted as infringement, every monster game ever made would be in court and Nintendo wouldn’t need lawyers, they’d just print money suing themselves.

You’re out here screaming “you didn’t read the documents” while clearly only skimmed headlines. Meanwhile, the patents themselves show your argument is just “Nintendo says so,” which is hilarious because even the documents prove how absurdly vague the claims are.

>>720350378
you clearly don't understand how this works
give it up

>>720340478 (OP)
>make game with every bs nintendo patent
>sell big on anti nintendo wave
>put money into bitcoin so nintendo and declare bankruptcy
>???
>Profit

>>720340478 (OP)
Shut down the patent system, it is not working as intended and we (living humans) decide what laws and rules to follow by.

>>720350502
>“Oh, I don’t understand how this works?”
Buddy, you clearly don’t understand how reading works, how patents work, or how logic works. You’re out here parroting “give it up” like you just solved world hunger while having literally zero grasp of the documents you pretend to know. Nintendo’s patents are a circus of broad-ass claims, ball-throwing, ride-switching, sub-characters, basically “games exist, therefore ours.” Palworld hits some of the same mechanics? Big whoop. That doesn’t magically make it Pokémon; it makes your argument a kindergarten-level strawman.
You’ve spent the last five comments yelling about documents while simultaneously proving you couldn’t parse a sentence if it hit you in the face. You’re the human embodiment of a “read patent, skip comprehension” tutorial. So no, I don’t need to give up. You do. Log off, champ.

>>720349916
obviously it's a bit more intricate
>>720349986
you can't, but you can patent your own rendering process

>>720350661
keep these walls of text up and you're gonna have your own patent ready soon
file it under "lunatic ramblings"

>>720350106
blogger
also apparently he dickrides elon musk

I just bought another copy of Palworld because of this thread

>>720350661
You're arguing with a cultist, why are you wasting your time? Everyone knows he's retarded, and nothing you post will convince him.

>>720350737
I accept your consession.

>>720350780
Based

>>720350820
see, you can do the whole "no u" thing without wasting 600 characters

>>720350780
And that money is going straite to Nintendo when palshit is sued into oblivion, make sure to buy some mtx to funding my next Mario Kart World expansion, palsnoy

>>720348552
I dunno, you also people just read the patent in the article rather than the actual patent itself. poor anon here gets ignored >>720341251

>>720340478 (OP)
nintendo need to be humbled

>>720341251
How does US court deal with componential infringement? The whole thing is definitely pretty specific, but some of the flowcharts and illustrations are also very generic.

>>720351893
If a game has all of those elements they would probably come together incidentally at some point even if those things can be done out of order. People are saying it's hyper specific but most of those mechanics exist in other games already and are purposefully listed to be vague

>>720350901
and then the jeets will take over japan and nintendo, meaning bharat BVLLs won

>>720340478 (OP)
>Full Stop
Now, please give us your opinion in a non faggot manner. Thanks.

>>720350901
They're already sued and it looks like they're winnjng. Nintendo has to change their patent to be even more vague in court lol.

The amount of ChatGPT posts in this thread is alarming.

>>720340478 (OP)
KILL TROONTENDO EMPLOYERS

Why does the US run on a “first to file” basis?

They should do a patent for 480p 12fps.

>>720346928
Decades of indoctrination. I'm master race, but I'm sure the "snoys" are already flying my way. It's like a religion at this point.

>>720348747
I'm always for a /nin/ containment board. /v/ is pretty much unusable for a week when a Direct is due or a new Zelda/Mario releases.

>>720352502
IDK how come Akira Toriyama never sued game freak?

So how are you guys getting your Pokémon fix nowadays? Playing romhacks? I watched some japanese show about a Primeape turning into Annihilape, it was fun.

Modern American IP laws are all a scam, a legal trick being exploited by Disney to enable them to own fucking everything. Fuck the US patent system...the whole system needs cut down to size, which based China understands.

>>720352502
Patents have always been like this. They're like the evil, corrupted version of copyrights and intellectual properties.

>>720340478 (OP)
Just tell elon nintendo is fucking with its favorites toy dibbles and necromancer is kill and that's not really freedom he might do something.

>>720340751
b-b-but MUH TENDIIEEEEEES

Why would I care about what some old zipper heads in Japan think?

>>720353063
The patent is in the us of a retard not moonland.

>>720352727
Yet most of the posts in those threads are seething about Nintendo. Curious.

>>720352056
To expound upon this. I just booted up mabinogi and recreated the scenario listed in the patent with one of my pets set to "auto-attack mode". The combat is completely different than Pokémon but the patent makes no distinctionas to the specifics of the inputs.

>>720340478 (OP)
Nintendo is really afraid of some shitty indie kek

>>720345553
They are screwing over japanese companies and make it even easier for chinks and gooks since those ones don't give a shit about patents

>>720352727
Jewtentroon discord just loves using bots and shills.

>>720352727
Also tendiejeets raiding other threads and doomposting because they can't accept people want to discuss non Nintendo games

>>720353489
does mabinogi have pokeball

>>720348747
They are the biggest cultists here

>>720353687
The patent doesn't specify pokeball but uses it as an example in a diagram. The summoning device is not needed faik

>>720353749
>When someone tries to tell me that OOT was a good game, especially for its time, I just know. They are lost.

>>720352056
>>720353489
the flow of the patent is important though
also make note that this is specifically patenting how SV works, the whole of it and not just tidbits. so unless you make out of your way to make Scarlet and Violet again, you won't get infringed.
Like people think this is related to Palworld when it's not.

>>720353307
You did read the OP, didn't you, you fucking retard?

>>720353489
but isn't pokemon doing the same thing what palworld did by just taking someone mechanic and adding 1 thing to it, it just seems hypocritical if they get mad at people for doing that.
The ball mechanic i get but the summon and gliding is so petty and one thing i don't understand is why pokemon fans think getting rid of this game will suddenly stop copycats from being made when they know that's true and they will not care at all considering that even though they're getting sued a copycat of palworld manages to land itself on the nintendo eshop showing that they really don't unless its gets traction or is on their own console making them money

>>720353931
I can replicate the flow of the patented mechanics in a 20+ year old game using those mechanics in the way the developer intended for them to be used. That patent is bullshit.

>>720354071
Yeah that why the "muh hyper specific" argument doesn't hold up. None of the infmdividual mechanics are novel and the language is vague enough that someone else's game will infringe upon it incidentally.

>>720354212
None of the individual mechanics*

I'm all for videogame patents
Crippling the design space of copycats means more innovation in general


>but they patented a basic feature you can't make games without
I highly doubt that

>>720354325
>cripples the game industry as a whole for the sake of originality despite almost all ideas pretty much been taken it would take a needle in a haystack just for an original idea to make a game
>Acts surprised when the game industry fucking implodes on itself

>>720354449
The industry is already imploding, it just needs a little push

>>720354212
isn't it because software patents cover the entirely of it, not just some specific parts.

>>720340478 (OP)
Government licenses for ideas, like open letters (better known in propaganda speak as patents), printing press licenses (better known in propaganda speak as copyright) and permitted fraud licenses (better known in propaganda speak as trademarks), are already embarrassing failures of the legal system.
We are well and truly away from an era where the government should be interested in curtailing the spread of disruptive information and ideas to an extent that they are willing to incentivize the creation of a small handful of consolidated megapublishers, especially when internationalization of these systems has lead these megapublishers to dwarf smaller countries in terms of their power over culture and lawmaking.

>>720354325
If your motivation is preventing copycats, then the most ardent proponents of IP law should generally be denied, since they are usually the worst copycats with the most transparent derivatives.

if you know what i mean

>>720344924
Prior art is supposed to prevent patents from being granted

>>720340478 (OP)
The bigger problem is that the boomers that grant these patents are just old as out of touch. Most of them don't know jack shit about techonology. They can barely operate a remote control for their TV.

And this isn't limited to the US. Old boomers around the world that control the laws are mostly tech illerate and don't understand why these patents should have never been granted. You have tech illiterate boomers ruling on tech laws and granting patents because they really don't know better.
These boomers are easy suckers. That's why so many companies hire paid lobbiest to lobby for bullshit.

>>720356694
Yeah that's why patent trolling is as effective as it is. Just taking someone to court is a huge inconvenience. Nintendo's big enough to simply throw their weight around regardless of who's in the legal right.

>>720340478 (OP)
OH MY SCIENCE! OH MY GHIBLI!
fuck off you faggot retard, anything nintendo does to btfo faggot snoys like you is A Good Thing

>>720346621
Fun fact: Kirby is named after the lawyer who won them a case on copyright against Universal. The movie studio was suing them on the use of the name "Kong", but they lost because Universal themselves had taken the name from another IP.

So in a way you could blame Holywood for Nintendo's bad legal behavior.

>>720340478 (OP)
so when is a big publisher going to slap Nintendo in the face about this
Microsoft has a Pokemon clone coming up and id love to see Nintendo think they can stack up to Microsofts billion dollar legal team

>>720340478 (OP)
They should apply this shit to movies. My company gets a monopoly on the "walking away from an explosion in the background" shot!

>>720357545
Doesn't that win imply that copying is fair game?

>>720340572
Lmao?

>>720348747
I haven't owned a console in over a decade now
Nintendies are a fucking blight

>>720340718
It went through because Nintendos lawyers have twice as many passports compared to the majority of people

What exactly is it about Nintendo that makes retards seethe so much?
Sony won with the PS2.
Microsoft is way bigger than Nintendo.
Ubisoft, Actiblizz, EA, and many more are way worse publishers than Nintendo, yet they don't generate the same kind of vitriol.

>>720358179
>why does a PC majority board hate the company that is trying (and failing thankfully) to kill emulation
Dunno anon.

>>720358179
Sony and Microsoft just make bad games, Nintendo is actively trying to destroy them for profit

>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PATENT SOMETHING, I'LL MAKE AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT INTERVIEWING THE GUY WHO MISREAD A MACHINE TRANSLATED DOCUMENT
seems rather desperate

>>720350378
>Throwing a ball at characters in a field
You didn't read it
>“Sub‑characters” with very specific battle sequences
You obfuscate the specificity on purpose to make it seem ironically non-specific
>“Ride switching” mechanics with the phrase ‘even when’ added mid‑lawsuit to broaden the language (JP ‘390’)
You misquoted a mistranslation, impressive job, wrong on all counts.

>>720358336
This. Talk all the shit you want about Sony. At least they're trying to make games. As opposed to Nintendo who are doing the exact opposite.

Why won't Nintendo just patent every mechanic in games ever, so they're the only ones allowed to make video games.

>>720360068
Nintendo should patent the concept of video game, that way only they could make them.

>>720341251
I NEED to scream and shit about EVERYTHING, even if it's not true. What else am I supposed to do? Play video games?

>>720340478 (OP)
Based Nintendo.

>>720360068
They're doing a good job at it so far considering they already patented riding on animals in video games. No game can ever have horse riding ever again because Nintendo deemed themselves the creators of horseback riding.

>>720360249
>Nintendo deemed themselves the creators of horseback riding.
oh man Rockstar and Take2 will have a field day with this when they make a new Red Dead

>>720347598
>NO U is apparently the greatest comeback ever for tendies
I only thought like that when I was 10 and had the mentality of a child. Speaks volumes.

>>720341251
>You should be allowed to patent game design!
Uh-huh...

>>720340478 (OP)
This will be one of those patents that will only be used for a game that's better than (threatens) Nintyslop
Waiting for the ramifications of this in the next few years for an eventual reputational downfall. Get ready to short gayming stocks

>>720346960
>>720347017
>>720347076
>All 1 minute apart
Kek.

>>720347694
>>720347756
>>720347881
Once again, all 1 minute apart.

>>720363390
>>720363443
>1 minute apart

>>720363390
>>720363443
>tendies samefag
No shit

>>720363551
Retard.

>>720363563
t.samefags those Zelda shitpost threads every day

>>720363597
ok eric

>>720363597
Meds.

>>720363636
Suck my dick, Edward.

>>720340478 (OP)
What will he do about it though

>>720340478 (OP)
I know absolutely jack fucking nothing about patent law other than it's exploitable and it sucks ass.
So what happens if/when someone decides to challenge the legitimacy of the patent? Can they sue or anything to have it annuled?

>>720340572
Why? For making Mario?

>>720340478 (OP)
So now it's a problem and not all the shit that other companies squat on like gamepad rumble features and using save data in certain ways

>>720345227
>single GLOBAL company does BS
>blame the entire nation
cringe

>>720364407
Nintendo unironically has the Japanese government in its pockets because of its enduring history with the yakuza.

>>720340478 (OP)
So they patented the idea of: "Summoning a character and commanding it to attack a another monster. In the manner they, probably, intended, this applies to any monster battler, of which there are many, some created at the same time as Pokemon, others that predate it. Wizardry 4 let you summon monsters to fight other monsters and hero parties that beat the prior games (you played as the villain from the first three games, and people sent the parties who beat the first three games into the devs who included those parties as encounters for the villain in the fourth game).

Point being Pokemon isn't even the first monster battler, and the concept of summoning something to fight something extends well beyond monster battlers. If you've played a diablo-like you've probably summoned a thing to fight a thing (for example summoning a fire golem to fight something), SMT has had mechanics of capturing and summoning demons to battle since the 80s, the imps in Overlord are summoned to fight monsters/humans and solve puzzles, a Warlock in WoW summons a demon to fight things, in Titan Quest you can summon wolves to fight enemies, etc etc etc.

The concept of summoning a character to battle things is incredibly pervasive in the games industry across every platform PC, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, even old Sega games, and far beyond. This concept (summoning a character to battle) would encompass thousands of games, more than I could probably list in a single post here.

This is an ass patent.

>>720340718
Yeah this is probably it, the patent system is a joke

>>720364596
>I don't know how patents work

>>720365128
I don't - but the person who wrote this article, that used to work at the patent office, does:

"Nintendo has recently secured a U.S. patent (No. 12,403,397) for a specific gameplay mechanic involving the summoning of a "sub character" to battle another character, which was granted on September 2, 2025, by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). The patent, filed in March 2023 by Nintendo and The Pokémon Company, details a sequence where a player character can summon a sub-character to a location, with the battle outcome depending on whether an enemy is already present, and includes a conditional branch for automatic combat if the sub-character moves to a new location. This development has raised concerns about the potential impact on other games with similar mechanics."

The article goes on to talk about how patents work, what they apply to, and that there is absolutely a danger because the patent is worded broadly enough that it can apply to both its intended set of mechanics, and those beyond.

I'd agree, I don't know much about patents, so I decided to simply listen to someone who does. Notably, that is not you. Every game I mentioned was mentioned in the article at some point. If a person who used to work at the patent office believes there's an issue, then I'm prone to believe there's an issue.

>>720365453
Obviously this former employee just hates nintendo.

>>720365453
>appeal to authority
>the authority he's appealing to is a clickbaiting shyster

>>720365453
>Florian Muller
So is he the lawyer or patent auditor or something else?

>>720366452
That's a different person anon.

These:

>>720340478 (OP)
>>720340751

Are what you're thinking of, and where the person you have in mind is mentioned.

>>720340478 (OP)
>Videogame IP Lawyer
lmao literally who profession

>>720349283
>This sounds retarded, that'd mean ninty would have to show source code
You cant Patent Code.. Copyright is a different matter.

what you can patent is the all the steps and elements than once in conjuction make up the patented mechanic.
This Specific Patent has 26 Claims. for something to INFRINGE on that patent it has to TOUCH ALL 26 PARTS.

>>720340478 (OP)
>FBI drops everything to go after nintendo piracy sites
>US Patent Office just gives Nintendo any patent they want
Someone at NoA has good connections with this administration, I bet

>>720349724
>are so broad
They are not.
you are just a retard that learned about patents nad get fed what you think is "knowledge" from retards on reddit that like to "dumb down" a Patent.
Saying "Nintendo owns a Patent on Summoning" Is like saying "F1 owns a patent on their cars, So they should sue Monster Truck cause those have 4 wheels too"

For this specific example, Among the Claims, it has to be a 3rd person game, where you control a characters on an open 3rd environment, summon a sub-character that can act independently of follow commands you issue tru the sub characters in an environment it will go and fight another character than you can then captures. You have to be able to issue orders to the sub characters using the main characters (which you never loses control off)

Amd this is just the 1st 6 claims, out of 26.

>>720365453
Thats Florian Muller, and self proclaimed Patent Lawyer that either is tooo stupid to do his job properly or is reducing the Patent to an state he can them click bait every moron in existing into believe Nintendo and Pokemon patents are out of the ordinary (everyone in the industry been doing it for 30 years) and will soon destroy it (it wont lol, no one will trigger a MAD)

>>720366786
they really are the final boss of gaming

>>720340718
Basically this.

i like how we've come so "far" as society, that we patent 1's and 0's lmao. thats capitalism for you, everyones a greedy fuck now. worse than the fucking jungle

>>720343393
retarded

I hate Furukawa.

>>720368574
don't like it, leave commie
I heard russia's desperately looking for people with your qualifications right now

>>720344084
:)

are there any good pokemon games that dont feel dated as fuck and terribly slow?

>>720341251
They patented the Dynamax system, but nobody put this in headlines because they clickbait everything

>>720340478 (OP)
>software patent
should be abolished as a whole.

>>720340478 (OP)
>corp fucks over consumers
>no one bats an eye
>corp fucks over other corps
>"ZOMFG DIS IS LITERALLY GENOCIDE"
You muttards are such silly creatures.

>>720340718
>the lawyer didnt care about the super vage 45 pages long patent cause... reasons. yeah. thats it.
You are retarded

>>720369835
only romhacks with emulator speedup

>>720370752
yeah only in america are the powerless rrepeatedly shit on until someone powerful accidentally gets caught in the crossfire and pushes for change. Couldn't possibly happen anywhere else.

>>720348887
You're literally a cultist,not even a corpo cuck

>>720371357
cant wait nintendo to sue everyone

>>720371357
they knew they couldn't patent the old system because that shit is older than pokemon

>>720371357
>draw some doodles and label everything like it's a ben garrison cartoon
>this potentially entitles you to sue anyone that makes something resembling your doodles
i am so goddamn fucking sick of dealing with centuries-old systems created by long-dead people for a world that doesn't exist anymore

>>720371496
why you gotta phrase it like that man
now i'm depressed

>>720371496
patents have always needed those kinds of doodles anon

Does this mean I can't summon skeletons in Diablo II anymore?

>>720371612
astounding reading comprehension, fuckwit

>>720371612
woah you mean the patent doodles aren't new? they're a centuries-old system? created by long-dead people? for a world that doesn't exist anymore?

Holy fuck I had NO idea. Thanks for cluing me in, you saint, you.

>>720371674
you're the one who doesn't know that the drawings are just a tiny part of the patent and the whole thing is just page after page full of words describing the things they are patenting

>>720371496
So what, do you just want a world where people can actually patent whole mechanics?

>>720365453
>The article goes on to talk about how patents work, what they apply to, and that there is absolutely a danger because the patent is worded broadly enough that it can apply to both its intended set of mechanics, and those beyond.
In other words they don't understand the function of a patent

>>720364596
>So they patented the idea of: "Summoning a character and commanding it to attack a another monster.
No. You can't patent an idea, just your method of executing an idea.

>>720371251
lmfao
You have no clue, fatty. They probably took your foreskin too.

>>720340478 (OP)
I belive only unique finished products should be patented, not parts of it, no mechanisms, etc.

>>720372194
You have killed innovation

>>720372194
Great, you've created a world where people can actually patent whole mechanics on a conceptual level.

>>720372227
>I have an idea but I can't afford to license a patented part I need for a million dollars, if the company even makes it available at all
no u

>>720372406
So in your hypothetical an inventor can't invent something?

>patent trolling
:|

>patent trolling (nintendo)
:O

>>720340751
tendies are soo delusional

>>720372406
You literally have no idea how patents work. If that patented part is a part of your idea you've made a new invention and can safely patent it because that part is being used for something else.

>>720341251
Schizos get triggered easily and begin to form fake scenarios in their heads feeding more to the insanity and positive feedback loop is ready.
Then we gets threads like this.

>>720340551
You really obsess over your bull a lot, huh?

>>720340478 (OP)
As a layman I thought mechanics were inherently unpatentable. When did this change?

>>720373450
Never, it's just that noone cares about due process anymore

>>720348938
Copyjew law is anti free market, corpo bootlicker.

>>720345652
It was always like that.

>>720345846
>corpo
>being an ally to their fans.
Literal stockholm syndrome.
Beyond pathetic.

>>720349373
>My favorite company being successful brings me more joy than you'll ever have.
Genuinely beyond pathetic.

>>720340718
The fucked up thing was that BS like this was happening 25-30 years ago when the internet was new, and the Supreme Court eventually had to step in, while the patent office got shakeups and some minor reforms.
3 decades later, it's still run and staffed by people who don't understand technology.
I wonder if DOGE fired all the tech savvy people and replaced them with cheap new hires like they did with so many other parts of the federal government. I don't remember a US patent being this much bull in ages, but then again I don't keep up with Techdirt.

>>720347323
>passive agressive tone
>buddy
Who asked you and why should anybody care?

>>720347416
>siding with corporation
No thanks, i am not gay, unlike you.

>>720340478 (OP)
>summoning and battling charactrs
Wasn't the Megaten series the first to do it in video games? Can't Atlus sue Nintendo for this?

>>720340478 (OP)
NINTENDO WINS AGAIN, BABY!!!!

>>720349243
>The sad thing is the legal system considers corporate conglomerates as single individuals
This really needs to be fixed. Corporations should not have the rights of individuals if they don't have the responsibility of individuals.

cope and seethe palkeks

>>720340478 (OP)
I wouldn't be surprised that this got approved because the Boomers that work there don't understand games and probably didn't realize enough prior art exist already that it was never novel.

>>720371750
i literally mentioned the ben garrison labels you absolute fucking swine of a clown

>>720371751
yes my post reeeing at the existence of the patent system was an assertion that I want patents to continue to exist but in a worse, more restrictive way

is it 4chan day at retard camp?

>>720374440
>implying he knew about Zyklon Ben

>>720341129
>paid dlc and gacha slop
Correct.

>>720340478 (OP)
It's literally the biggest franchise in the world. Nintendo offered 10 million in value in hard to track assets to the entire floor managing these patents, and they WILL I repeat, they WILL hire a hitman to silence whistleblowers.

Seeing how much people suck Nintendo’s dick here now is pathetic. At least back when console wars were a thing you had fighting because of exclusive games or graphics. This is no different from cheering on the IRS or an insurance company trying to weasle out of paying for something or trying to attack someone.

I don’t give a shit if you like Mario or bought the overpriced switch 2, but this is even worse than Disney adults now, because even those mongoloids have started fighting back

>>720347063
But they love nintendo. The only time they went against them was for Xenoblade. Stop having a victim complex.

>>720340478 (OP)
America is really the biggest piece of fucking shithole in the entire world, these beyond braindead ugly and fat as fuck creatures can NEVER do anything right EVER.

>>720369401
states and countries are fucking all of us over, doesnt matter if theyre communist, fascist or capitalistic. there is never a common interest, only means to gain power. communes only work in a small scale, like a town or a small city, otherwise there will always be unelected kings, pashas and emperors enriching themselves for no reason other than hedonistic indulgence. get real man

>>720341251
>hyper specific to the Gen 9 auto battling system
It isn't
>down to the images and exact mechanics
Those are just the examples they're using, dumbass

>>720349373
This post really triggered the snoys.

>>720340478 (OP)
Wasn't Nintendo rejected when they tried to patent this before? What changed?

>>720340572
Leave your house and make real connections.

intellectual property is a meme

>>720376486
They came back with more money.

>>720377127
>t. guy with 0 intellectual real estate

>>720376486
New President cut the federal workforce, including the experts at the patent office. Now they rubber stamp everything for efficiency.

>>720345359
Can Lewis Carroll family sue nintendo for stealing the cheshire cat

>>720374898
What's the difference between a magistrate and a judge?

>>720371357
>ride a horse
>get carried by an eagle
Does this mean Elden Ring and Nightreign are violating this patent?

>>720375937
Samefagging your own post only makes it more pathetic

>>720340478 (OP)
>copywrite is bad and caters to giant corpo dickheads
wow stop the presses.

>>720379624
Shut up, Eric.

>Ericschizo
Not even worth a reply

>>720341341
We must be better extra guys

>>720380182
>>Ericschizo
>Not even worth a reply

>>720376486
Nintendo amended it and it got accepted
They're not sending in the same exact patent twice lmao

tendies will defend anything, holy shit

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>>720384835
>snoyim infiltrated the moderation force is…le funny!
jannysnoys will pay for this

>>720340478 (OP)
i dont see a problem create your own mechanic and stop stealing others

>>720386793
Nintendo claiming ownership of something other games have been doing so they're in the wrong here

>>720388001
This

>>720341251
That's what you have to do to get a patent through.
But once you're in you can be as vague as you want when referencing it in a lawsuit.
>Well this mechanics in these thousand games are very similar to our patent
and it's then down to the judge that could go either way depending on how well the case is argued from both sides, read: which side spent the most money on the best lawyers.

>>720389050
This. It's license for Nintendo to throw their weight around to bully other devs if they feel like it

>>720385021
Literally, who asked you?

>>720388581
It's a meme.
It's like "Is it just me or is /pol/ losing influence" probably has more results because it's a good way to kick the flames of socially fragile retards

>>720389434
Its not a meme, its just retarded and faggy low quality shitposting.

>>720389434
>spamming it dozens of times in every thread like some kind of spambot
>"i-i'm just memeing bro haha"

>>720340478 (OP)
Oh shit... so monster collecting games or anything similar are fucked? Does this affect any games coming from japan or does it just fuck US made games? Idk how this shit works... desu im not really into those games but its kinda shitty if one day i get into them and its only fuckin pokemon thats fuckin left

>>720389434
Unfortunately it's not a meme, it's one guy, trying to reinforce his narrative that tendies call people Eric at random.
However he's been caught doing so with his trip on so we know that it's Eric himself doing it.

>>720340572
>patent mechanic that existed before them
>good guys
Good goys more like

>>720389680
>Oh shit... so monster collecting games or anything similar are fucked?
No, it's far too specific to apply to anything other than pokemon at this point in time and unless someone copies that mechanic down to the letter there's no issue.
>Does this affect any games coming from japan or does it just fuck US made games?
It's a US patent so just games in America unless they've also patented it in Japan which I don't care enough about to search. Either way it's nothing to worry about.
>Idk how this shit works... desu im not really into those games but its kinda shitty if one day i get into them and its only fuckin pokemon thats fuckin left
It won't be, basically patents only fuck over people who can't create like pocketpair.

>>720340478 (OP)
I don't see anything that Nintendo did wrong here. They are correct to ban all summoners and pet classes in games as they are gay and cringe as fuck. See Nappa in DBZF for example. Cringe and gay to play as a big man who has to rely on shrimps to do anything for him. He's useless without them except serving as a bottom.

>>720389923
It's not even specific. It doesn't distinguish between real time or turn based or what kinds of inputs.
Animal gliders predates Pokémon yet they claimed ownership over them. That's one of the patents they're using against palworld.

>>720391229
This is a prime example of someone who doesn't know how patents work.

>>720391326
Clearly know more than (you). How is Nintendo able to claim ownership over a mechanic that predates legends za?

>>720391229
>It doesn't distinguish between real time or turn based or what kinds of inputs
Because that's not how a patent works you dumbass it's not going to say something like
>trainer throws pokeball and a pokemon comes out that follows you
It's going to say
>when combat is initiated (see claim 1 for information on combat) when animation is concluded and object is launched from player, player owned character is spawned and control shifts to player owned character to control in a designated area where free form movement is enabled
That's how specific a patent has to be and it's just saying that a trainer threw a pokeball, spawned a pokemon and controls it in real time.

>>720391497
> How is Nintendo able to claim ownership over a mechanic that predates legends ZA?
You'd know if you knew anything about patents.

>>720391497
Patents aren't copyright you idiot more than one patent for the same idea can exist if they function differently.
You can't be this retarded.

>>720391653
The patent makes no distinction between real time, turn based, which character is being controled by which input etc. It is more far reaching than pokemon

>>720391937
Never claimed animal gliders are copywritten. Palworldw implementation already exists in games like fortnite.

>>720391968
It doesn't need to say the word real time or turn based if it describes what the controls do to the most minute detail.
That's how patents work.

>>720391736
What about patents explains how they can sue Palworld for an implementation gliders that existed in Castlevania curse of darkness?

>>720392054
>Never claimed animal gliders are copywritten
You legitimately can't read, can you.
No one said that you said they were, you're being told that your understanding of patents is based on how copyrights work which is obviously wrong.

>>720392090
Sure and I'm explaining how it doesn't just apply pokemon. Patents are written to be broad to cover many bases.

>>720392178
How many games are you going to name until you realise that the concept and the mechanic are two different things.

>>720392234
You mistook my argument for copyright when it was always about implementation

>>720392249
>and I'm explaining how it doesn't just apply pokemon
Which is just admitting that you didn't read the patent, since not a single game other than pokemon fits the bill.

>>720392296
The mechanic is the same as palworld down to the input.

>>720392372
See
>>720353489
Also in recent memory one of the LoL heroes' puppet ultimate works the same way.

>>720392357
Unfortunately for you gaslighting doesn't work when you're on a forum >>720391497
>How is Nintendo able to claim ownership over a mechanic
This is you acting as if they own the entire mechanic and not their own version of it.
This part in particular
>that predates legends za?
Dispels any potential confusion since their version didn't exist prior to ZA.

>>720392605
"Their version" literally exists in games from the 2000s. They are claiming ownership over it to sue palworld

>>720392582
I don't think I need to argue this since multiple anons already did hours ago. It's also sad that you spent your day here but that's besides the point.
In any case you're still conflating the concept with the mechanic. You need to understand that not all auto battle mechanics and summoning mechanics are the same.

>>720392748
NTA but have you ever watched power rangers? And yes this is relevant to the point.

>>720392792
Those are literal game mechanics that were listed as examples that meet the criteria of the patent

>>720340880
That was before they were bribed by lobbies into not doing this.
Edison started this shit from memory with the lightbulb.

>>720392865
Power rangers would be copyright. The implementation of gliders in castlevania curse of darkness and fortnight would invalidate Nintendo patent

>>720340880
No. The USPTO was always incompetent.
That's why patent trolling is such a common problem in America but nonexistent in Europe, Japan, Australia and other civilized regions.

>>720393045
Have you or have you not watched it.

nintendo is just setting themselves up to be the target of a huge lawsuit
i hope they keep pushing their retardation unironically

>instead of making a good pokemon game, we'll rely on court abuse and patents instead
Says something about Nintendo's mentality going forth from here.
It's n64 all over again, isn't it.
>only on...
This is what killed the n64 and made the ps1 sell btw.

>>720393045
Ultraman and Power Rangers arguably were better off both by the existence of both. It's kinda funny how nintendo thinks otherwise. Clearly aren't doing their history homework.

>>720393341
>instead of making a good pokemon game, we'll rely on court abuse and patents instead
Maybe if they made a game better than pokemon they wouldn't be getting sued.

God can't you people look at the patent itself instead of just blindly reacting to headlines? No wonder people are getting more ignorant

>>720393249
>nintendo is just setting themselves up to be the target of a huge lawsuit
Anon, they have an almost perfect litigation track record.

>>720393485
Palworld kinda did, which is why they're getting sued.
It's just anti-competitive bullshit being forced now, when Palworld clearly is driving the economy to make better games in this niche.

Nintendo doesn't realise that the last 2 gens of pokemon have been kinda shit and people are definitely noticing it. That's why Palworld exploded. It did also do things a bit shite itself, but at least it attempted to try and make it a bit better.

>>720393341
>instead of making a good pokemon game we're going to make a shitty AIjeet-powered rip off
Says something about PocketPair's mentality.

>>720393820
So is that why the last 2 gens of pokemon have been uninspired janky messes on par with AIslop?
>no competition

Why do you not want a good Pokemon game?
Why do you instead divert and target the competitor instead because it's making nintendo sweat?

>>720393938
Your shitty rip offs are not competition, PocketPair shill. It's that simple.

>2025
>people still think Nintendo makes Pokemon games

hope nintendo get a taste of their own medicine

>>720394021
Palworld obviously is which is why Nintendo never cared to go after the numerous previous monster catching games (they didn't have a single release which was nearly as popular as Palworld)

>>720340572
Retard

nintendo is the greatest threat to gaming in the world today

>>720395171
Let me guess you didn't actually look at the patent and see it was related to Pokemon Scarlet and Violet's battle system - it even specifies throwing a ball to summon a character

>>720394896
Bold of you to assume that Palworld is anywhere near the other monster tamers just because it was the meme game of the month.
If the world worked the way you think it does hollow knight would have been taken down for selling more than Metroid but no, it's still up.

>>720340478 (OP)
Every aspect of video game mechanics are patented

>>720345359
>galarian meowth face is the same as a chao found in sonic adventure from 1997
Uh oh nintenbros... Sega fidna sue fr fr on g

>>720340478 (OP)
>>720340572

>people shit on sony, steam and xbox
>turns out the shittiest and evil on of them all are actually Nintendo and their fans
Honestly not surprised..

>>720395531
But you can still buy Palworld on Steam after over a year and a half

>>720340478 (OP)
bump

>>720395716
?

>>720395383
dont care, nintendo are evil, dont care if someone makes a game that has a ball tossing summon. they are evil and they should go bankrupt.

>>720395784
!

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>>720373320
Christ, you are deepthroating that boot like a good little bitch.

>>720395932
>>720395895
You sound mentally ill

>>720395932
But enough about you and Pocketpair's boot.

>>720395932
learn to read

>>720395895
Thanks for proving to me that most gamers are fucking illiterate

So qrd? Are summons actually illegal in non tendie games now?

>>720395929
!?

>>720396076
?!

>>720396064
no, because the patent is extremely specific and does not protect the simple idea of "summoning" something.

>>720340551
delete this

>>720395932
The average tendie is like that unfortunately

>>720343393
This. Imagine all the great games that never got made because of some stupid patent.

>>720396193
BUT PC GAMER SAID A PATENT LAWYER TOLD THEM IT'S BAD!!!!!

>>720345846
This has to be bait there is no way anyone is this retarded

>>720396570
bravo genius

>>720396530
They're also blacklisted by Nintendo and will do anything to get back at them

>>720340478 (OP)
Retard here, does gacha now on the chopping block with this patent?

>>720341251
>>720346996
And if you read the actual article they got the opinion of an actual PATENT lawyer.
Are you a PATENT LAWYER anon?

>>720396570
If course it's fucking bait that sentence was some Pegasus Nation shit

>>720349678
>snoy snoy snoy
Why is it tendies always say snoy with tendies and trust me I hate playstation too because they are all about feminist garbage and but what's with you tendies always use snoy as an scapegoat when anyone critcizes you guys bootlicking this japanese company who is full of greed and makes nonsensical lawsuits left and right.

>>720396839
>they got the opinion of an actual PATENT lawyer.
A former patent lawyer. Take a guess why he isn't in the game anymore.

>>720353307
Seethe more tendie.

>>720396865
>get called a snoy
>immediately call people tendies
You rolled a zero on self awareness when you were born huh.

>>720396865
>posts contains "tendies" literally three times
You sound like a snoy.

tendoids are enemy #1 for gamers right now. leftoid and journos arent even relevant anymore. their patent trolling is going to be as big as the censorship was.

>>720397132
And what age you going to do about it? Shit your pants in a forum every single day wheel while we laughter at you and darn (you)s?

>>720396915
I wouldn't speculate, if he said why, do tell.

>>720397292
Mental illness.

>gachafags getting burned by nintendo
>at the cost of actual games also being restricted by nintendo
Damn, it would have been golden to see gacha being burned.

>>720398004
Anon, you don't just quit being a lawyer, there's too much investment for that, you drop it because you're bad at it.

>>720398070
Yes you are mentally ill, good job!

>>720340572
Shitendo haven't done anything good in 25 years. They are literally always the bad guys.