Thread 720353959

>he filtered millions
how did he do it /v/?

>>720353959 (OP)
I was dumb enough to not realize I could spin the thing but not dumb enough too not brute force it anyway.

>>720357653
This. It's only what? six permutations?
Midwit filter.

>>720353959 (OP)
A game designed for journalists.

>>720353959 (OP)
he didn't, sadly, far too many slurped up shitrim anyway for a whole decade

>>720360775
I og Oblivion worth checking out?

>>720353959 (OP)
>Wait a minute.... that claw

>>720363431
No, not really.

>>720353959 (OP)
by not explaining that you can rotate items in inventory screen

>>720363808
also the rotation mechanic isn't used for anything else

>>720363925
mabye the deathbrand map, and with mods, idk how many others use it but LoTD uses it for the third dig

>>720353959 (OP)
I genuinely don't believe that anyone is stupid enough to have had a problem with this.

>>720363431
yes

You were supposed to watch Todd's demo pre-release where he shows you how to solve it

https://youtu.be/d7WohnlLEQo?si=wPUaJxN8PvmMQ3ey&t=329

>>720353959 (OP)
Elder Scrolls is a press XXX YYY XXX game so having to inspect items is quite the curve ball thrown at the player.

>>720364997
Elder Scrolls is a Dynasty Warriors game?

>>720365325
Might as well be given how melee combat works

>>720353959 (OP)
Funniest thing is that it's not even a puzzle. It's supposed to be just an immersive fantasy key and a lock that in lore the ancient Nords used to use and now you also gotta use since you want to get into their tombs. That's why there's zero variation in difficulty for the "puzzle" and it's always the same basic mechanism just with different pictures. It's not supposed to stump anyone, it's just fantasy flavor but with mass appeal you get some very dumb people playing your games.

>>720360775
Those dragon weapons look like shit.

>>720357836
27

I brute forced it the first time. I wasn't really expecting a fairly linear game like Skyrim to do that, it was quite the curveball.

I managed to figure out the other puzzle though, I think it was in the vampire DLC. The one where there's a book in the centre and you have to read these poems to figure out the animal code since, this time it wasn't carved into the walls like it always is

>don't teach mechanic
>players don't engage mechanic

>>720366425
who taught you to be a retard?

>>720353959 (OP)
Those claws are literally the only time in the entire game you need to move the model around in the inventory to solve a puzzle.

It was created for the demo >>720364860 as "look at all our new features!!", which is empty promises made to look intelligent.

It's also completely retarded because you can brute force the puzzle in 20 seconds. So it's a feature used nowhere else, about the only puzzle in the entire game, that was created for a demo, that you can brute force in 20 seconds.

Really tells you everything you need to know about Bethesda ````creative'''' process.

>>720366425
And it wasn't in every game then like it is now. Zoomers wouldn't know.
Maybe Uncharted had it?

>>720366484
Skyrim is an incredibly shallow game that only remains popular because its more of a sandbox than an RPG. People don't like Bethesda games because of their storytelling or gameplay but because they provide settings where you can fuck about without thinking too hard, this is the only reason why we don't have any current day "Skyrim Clones" because most developers mistakenly believe other aspects of Skyrim are what made it so beloved, even indies that seek to emulate the Elder Scrolls style of first person RPG end up giving the games properly involved narratives and/or genuinely challenging combat.

>>720353959 (OP)
I didn't know you could rotate items, and when I first saw the door with it I thought that since there are 3 sets of stone кeliefs on walls in front of it, I am supposed to figure out the corresponding animal for each one... When I failed to do that, I started brute-forcing my way through them until I learned that you could rotate keys to see the code.
Even if I knew that you could rotate items, I would probably fail to think of looking under a key, because its too fucking retarded. Or maybe I am retarded, idk.

>>720353959 (OP)
The hardest part of that puzzle is the fact that at no point game showcases the ability to rotate items in inventory

>>720353959 (OP)
I'm not talking about golden claw "puzzles" in particular, but puzzles suck ass - they're incredibly unrealistic and only exist to stroke some developer's ego.
When was the last time you tried to open a door IRL and it required solving some stupid puzzle?

>>720368947
You're the reason games suck now.

>>720369061
Good

>>720360775
Why do you spam this ancient retarded image without a single point to make every thread? Virtually everyone agrees Oblivion is the worst of the non-DOS TES games.

>>720366010
I do like the lore reasons for the puzzle. It was just an ancient nord's "I am not a robot" captcha.

>>720353959 (OP)
why does no open world RPG bethesdaslop game feature any platforming?

>>720353959 (OP)
>Nordic security systems needed the keys and walls to have pictures just in case they were too retarded to open the door
Actual degenerate race

>>720353959 (OP)
The biggest German streamer failed for a solid hour.

>>720363431
No TES or Fallout game is worth checking out. Todd and Bethesda are all hacks.

>>720353959 (OP)
Playing through skyrim again, I'm surprised by how little claws there actually are in this game. when I first played years ago, they felt like they were more important.

>>720353959 (OP)
I dont get it though, you can see all the symbols without rotating it, the only one that i remember being tough to make out without rotating was one of the keys had a fox on the bottom that looks close to the butterfly

>>720366230
How?

>>720372754
Oh nvm were there repeats allowed?

>>720369638
>skyrimfags want to be liked by Morrowind chads so much
Pathetic

>>720373231
Morrowind > Skyrim >>> Oblivion
That's just how it is. It does almost everything in the worst way out of the three games.

>>720373060
Only on 2 puzzles.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Folgunthur
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dead_Men%27s_Respite

You could solve anything else in 6 guesses.

>>720372754
3 layers, each layer has 3 possibilities.

>>720357653
I noticed those marks when I picked it up and instantly realised when I reached the door that the combination must be on the claw. Only took one faceroll to turn it

>>720373816
I had accidentally turned the claw in a retarded angle without noticing you can rotate objects so everything was stuck that way.

>>720353959 (OP)
It never filtered me. I always used console commands to bypass the door.

>>720373608
I was being a retard and thought the doors had no repeats.
123,132,121,131,112,113,111,122,133 for 1 in the first place. 9x3 = 27 adding 2 and 3 in the first place.

>>720373501
But you’re not fucking gonna know that unless someone tells you.

>>720374112
The point is that you can be a retard and think it's 6 permutations and still succeed an everything but 2 doors (Probably what I did as a teen)

>>720372026
Not the point.

>>720353959 (OP)
Literally no point in the game even says "Hey BTW you can rotate items in the inventory"

I spent like a whole damn hour trying to read the walls around it in the first time. Then I just gave up and brute forced it through every permutation.

>>720353959 (OP)
i just brute force it, but later on i discovered you could rotate objects

>>720373410
>Morrowind > Skyrim >>> Oblivion
Daggerfall gods, how do we respond without dying out of laughter?

>>720360775
>>720360775
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/VDWbFKETM2Os1YI3Gv5JJQ/
...

>>720353959 (OP)
I didn't knew you could rotate items, idk why they only did it with the claws too, it's like someone remembered that you could rotate items in the menu and decided to make one single puzzle around it.
Not like Skyrim has a lot of puzzles anyways

>>720378962
Weird to think that image is probably older than him

I dropped the claw on the floor and manually flipped it over in-game because I didn't know you could rotate items in the inventory.

>>720380645
Holy based. I kneel.

>>720368947
>When was the last time you tried to open a door IRL and it required solving some stupid puzzle?
Every fucking time I go out of town?

>Book an airbnb
>Have to enter some esoteric combination of runes on the intercom to access the building's foyer
>Then have to set esoteric runes on a letterbox's dials to access a key
>Then have to track down a giant moving box, get inside of it, and allow it to carry me to the floor my airbnb is on - once again after interacting with esoteric runes
>THEN have to follow notes written amidst a series of hallways directing me to the airbnb
>FINALLY have a CHANCE of entering the apartment I've booked, but this is still predicated on me inserting the key the correct way up

>>720353959 (OP)
I hate this meme. They made a huge deal out of how you could rotate objects when viewing them at the time of release, so obviously everyone would rotate objects looking for clues. No one was that retarded.

>>720382759
If you did not watch their gameplay teaser before release, you wouldn't know about item rotating.
Console players would likely stumble upon the ability to rotate items in their inventory just by nudging the right stick, but rotating items with a mouse (and interacting with the menus with a mouse) is janky and something you'd need to deliberately probe around with to do.

>>720357653
i was dumb in a way that allowed me to rotate items but then not use shouts for 80% of the game because I didn't bother to figure out how to buy words with souls lol

>>720380645
liar once picked up you can't remove quest items until they have fullfilled their porpuse

>>720357653
It's fair not to realize you can rotate items, the game doesn't mention it once.

It does, however, have a tutorial telling you click mouse button to attack.

>>720384374
I think more console players realized. Must have been a subtle control difference. I only ended up noticing when some armor was angled by mistake in a ridiculous position and I googled what was wrong because I didn't remember it that way.

I knew the red and blue book were the key. I knew you could rotate objects. I knew you could interact with an object while viewing it. But this still filtered me because I didn't realize I had to rotate it to a specific orientation before interacting with it did something.

>>720353959 (OP)
didn't watch the E3 trailer, UI is terrible, brute forced it and found out later i could rotate objects after dealing with said terrible UI

>>720357653
I remember dropping it onto the ground and trying to push it until the symbols faced up. Then immediately realizing I could rotate it after picking it back up to unlock the door.

>>720385694
>>720380645
Liars. You can't drop quest items.

Skyrim's dungeons are too confusing to me. I keep getting lost and running around in circles. The marker doesnt even tell me where to go. They are mazes and I wish they were straight forward.

>>720378962
Lmao what an obsessed autist. Todd mindbroke him hard.

>>720353959 (OP)
No, but the lexicon puzzle filtered me as a kid
>tfw Skyrim came out 14 years ago

>>720353959 (OP)
we will never get a puzzle like this ever again. es6 will have it highlighted flashing indicators, at a maximum it will happen after 30 seconds of not figuring it out

>>720363431
fuck yes. It's better than Skyrim
play the remaster though

>>720372321
Bethesda didn't make the first 2 fallouts, they did ruin the digital releases though

>>720363431
Yes with the unique landscapes mod and better cities the game is pure kino.

>>720366010
I wouldn’t care if it wasn’t shown off in a demonstration like a big deal. But that’s like complaining the Sun raised today.

>>720353959 (OP)
>mfw only realized that you can spin this shit because they showed you can in the trailer/sneak peak gameplay whatever it was showing the first cave/dungeon

>>720353959 (OP)
I watched a gameplay video before it came out where they showed it.

>>720363808
>>720363925
The note that drops from the elf you have to kill literally tells you that the solution is on the claw.