Thread 720365761

Australia should be nuked in retaliation for the Bilewater gauntlet

>>720365761 (OP)
Awooo!

>Punane Leima :DDD
what the hell did they mean by this

Boss retry mod when

Best place to farm meat?

>>720366032
I did it in the Vaults cause there's enemies everywhere but anywhere should do, it doesn't take long

>>720366032
every single enemy drops a meat if you get the last hit in with the correct tool

>sentenced to eternal work in wagie hell

jesus christ how horrifying

does /v/ like nuu

>>720366208
nuu we don't

What changes did they actually make to Moorwing and Sister Splinter?

Parrying Lace's parry feels so kino

I don't think my bussy can take any more of this ...

>>720366265
Think Moorwing's spinning blades only do one damage now

>>720366317
There's a secret bench that you missed.
You can get there from the top of pic related, going down into the area below it.
Now bend over.

>Sherma walking into danger for healing supplies
Stop being an idiot. I don't care about the other idiots I care about you you stupid bastard!

Where do you duel Garmond?

>>720365761 (OP)
>Second sentinel fight
holy fucking kino I love this character

>>720366372
lame, doesn't even make sense when you consider things that would realistically hurt less hit harder than that now

>>720366429
you get a wish for it from Bellhart in due time

>coral tower
are they serious?

>>720366317
>>720366398
same but I already found the bench. I was so relieved I beat the gauntlet then fucking Groal appeared

>>720366429
Roof outside of the Vaults I think, can't remember exactly where it was but it was outside

you have no excuse

>>720366372
That's pretty lame and making boss projectiles more forgiving early on is just gonna set shitters up for an even harder time as the game goes on

>No boss theme in silksong beats White defender
Hope TC dropped Larkin and hired a real composer

just beat the big bad in act two and got a bad ending
now what

>Make act 3
>spend time to slightly change the zones (mostly background stuff)
>forget to actually put cool bosses in act 3

>>720365936
Dolores

>>720366562
Nah Silksongs music blows Hollow Knights out of the water. I like HK's music but thought it was kind of overrated and only a few like the city of tears were memorable

>>720366605
Do all of the quests in the towns (bone bottom, bellhart, songclave) and then talk to that hooded guy in Songclave

>>720366605
do all the wishes and get the Flea Caravan to move to their final spot

>>720366631
There is not a single memorable SS music. I literally can't remember a single one.
Not saying it's bad, but it's not good enough.

>7 years of development
>0 minutes of playtesting

>>720365761 (OP)
Cute picture

>>720366631
>HK: City of Tears, White Defender
>SS: Cogwork core
Imagine if TC hired a real deal like Kevin Penkin instead of "uhhh we used Larkin in HK so why not"

>>720366032
I did it in mosshome on the very first mobs in the game, took me 5 minutes

Just collected all the melody
Anything I should do before heading there?

>>720366631
I wish there was a track on the level of Nightmare King Grimm

>>720366739
just go for it, you can't get locked out of anything

How do you get here?

>>720366783
Uhm, askshually he can get locked out of two optional fight in act 2, if he goes straight to 3, do not propagate fake news

>>720366818
gee, might be something to do with the lock that's one pixel above that area

>>720366818
You think I remember nigga?

>>720366682
>>720366725
>>720366771
Maybe it's because I like the exploration music more than boss tracks but I thought SS was way better, I guess no boss themes have stuck out like NKG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-ENkUBzq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hM_Hp37By0

>>720366610
yeah as if there not enough back tracking through the same shit in the first acts. HERES MORE!!!!! at least just give a conga line of bosses then i dont care about the areas

>>720366856
he's not going to act 3 currently

>>720366818
There's a locked door in the ward, The key is hidden above the eastern exit.

>>720366863
>>720366887
>>720366928
o-ok thanks, s-sorry

The final boss glitched me behind the wall in the boss arena, lmao.

>>720366981
Happened to me too lol, got to admit this one feels less tested than HK but I never played that one at release so hopefully they'll smooth everything out eventually

>>720366909
>a conga line of bosses
so a new gauntlet with bosses?
I wonder if bosses with a gauntlet will have their own gauntlet within the gauntlet, if they are in a gauntlet.
It's Team Cherry we're talking about, I believe in gauntlets within gauntlet theory.

>>720366905
Choral Chambers, Bellheart, Clockwork Core and Blasted Steps are all kino.

I never felt "this is stupidly wordy" in HK dialogues but silksong is having it real bad somehow

>>720367156
>adhd zoomer when he encounters more than two words of text

I assume there's just nothing else here but the little roaches?

so the last 4 mask shards are only found in act 3 right?

>>720367075
Meanwhile I got stuck underground near entrance to Coral Tower because I wanted to go back with needolin while having 2hp and I got dmg from worms when I was going back, died and respawned under bench

I just glitched a boss rematch, its not really a spoiler
im doing a hunt side quest for beast fly and I got him to despawn and I have to kill myself now

>>720367348
You meet Mushroom guy as his last appearance

>>720367348
Play music

>>720367361
Don't know the amount but there are Act 3 only masks, I guess if you're only missing 4 it must be that many

Was Hornet a good sister?

Awakened hunter crest is actually pretty interesting because because you have to choose whether to use benches since your focus meter resets when you do but you get health obviously. It's an interesting choice. Reserve bind works well with the crest for this reason and you can probably throw weavelight and druids eye in there too.

>>720367479
yea that's why I came up here, I mean the place above
>>720367504
>Play music
fugg, I already left, what does it do? I'm not going all the way up again

>>720367530
She'll be a good onee-sama.

>>720367397
It happens frequently with worms in the ground when you beastcall.

>>720367581
Just a memento...you did take the shortcut down right, you can use it to go back up too

BROTHER, WHY THE FUCK DID THEY THINK PUTTING A BEATING HEART INSIDE A HOME WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA??????
FUCKING RUINED

>>720367632
>you did take the shortcut down right

Some fag said yesterday you can use needolin to open fast travel stations without paying, can someome test?

Huh, I'm stuck. didn't expect that to happen. Especially so late in the game. But I checked every place I could think to check, and can't find a way to advance. It feels like I'm missing an ability. Many of my dead ends indicate an ability is needed.

>>720367712
Shit that would be clever, the machine that unlocks it does play a tune

>>720367632
>you can use it to go back up too
No no no no no nonononono NON ON ONNO OAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>720367712
Who the fuck is going to spend dozens of hours avoiding opening a station just to get to act 3, getting beastcall, to see if it works?
That's beyond retarded. Go do it yourself since you like having retarded ideas.

Give 1 reason to why the game should be way harder than Hollow Knight was

>>720367763
where are you in the story?

>>720367787
Stfu you rabid faggot

>>720367787
I think he just means a regular tune, Beastcall would just teleport you I assume

Does this game still do the thing with the map system where the compass took up one of your slots?
From what I've seen the slots are broken up by type or color now (?) from screenshots so is it like there's a dedicated qol / non combat equip slot that doesn't affect anything in combat? This is probably the most important thing for me to know

Got a NPC telling me about hearing a child laughter in Songclave
What was that about?

>>720367712
Sounds like Gen 1 Pokemon's how to get Mew bullshit

Is there a closer bench to sister splinter?

Test

>>720367763
But there's always, 100% of the time, a quest marker on your map that tells where to go

>>720367858
It still takes up a slot but you get a free slot for charms that are mostly entirely not combat related that it can go in

>>720367862
Lace apparently, he said it to me when Sherma was already at the Shrine so I doubt it was him

>>720367858
Only the red slots ones are for combat tools, so the compass isn't taking away from them, but it's still very limited

>>720366032
brood mother mob is really easy to farm

what is this spiral icon on my save?

that's a reassuring name for a quest

holy shit that operating cylinder

>>720367962
Mushroom ending I think, or Cursed, it's something to do with what ending you got at least

>>720367962
You're spiraling out of control
I think it indicates what part of the main quest you're at, my spiral changed to Hornet's face when I got the true ending

>>720367962
TC are huge Naruto fans.

>>720367845
Made it to citadel. Beat the cog duo. Brass statues tell me I need to find songs. I've found a special music cylinder, and played it and got a song. I also found 2 parts of a clockwork something.

>>720367921
There is a quest marker, but try as I might to reach it, I'm unable, because I presume I need an ability.

>>720367908
no
that ones takes like 15 seconds max

>MOST of the people complaining about Bilewater and runbacks haven't even made it to the Bilewater boss yet.
That fucker was annoying. Until I stopped trying so hard. I go through weird phases with this game. I swear sometimes, the more I play, the worse I get. Then I have a zen moment and I play in a very slow, simple, stupid, methodical fashion, and everything dies. Also, how do I make the most out of the Witch crest? It seems like the risk of getting hit while trying to heal is not worth it.

>>720367962
pedo symbol

>>720368043
Huh? Maybe 1 minute. I don't have wall climbing which I gather I will get later.

>>720368049
Shit how did they know??

>>720368036
explore the Underworks

>>720367834
cuz it makes the game more fun

>>720368046
>how do I make the most out of the Witch crest
by not using it, it is almost on beast level bad

I wish Lace was a bit more fun to fight. Her being the true final boss doesn't feel right

If I used tools did I beat the game? Feels kinda cheap.

>>720368036
underworld from whiteward

i still dont understand why hornet was dying at various points and also who freed her from the cage at the start

>>720367834
because it was intended to be a post game DLC for Hollow Knight

>>720368097
Shit, really? I thought I exhausted my option there. Maybe I overlooked something.

>>720368165
"PERFECT STARTING POINT FOR NEW PLAYERS"

>>720368114
I have been wondering if this was the actual solution. It would be alright if I could at least grab a couple points of hp from a greater distance. For maybe less, or even no damage. But without that, the range is just not worth it. Not with the gear I have, anyway.

>>720366631
I think both games have pretty middling soundtracks. The save area theme from HK is the only one I like enough to seek out

>>720368158
Yeah I forgot all about that, it only happens at the start though right?

The patch is lame. There's only one place that required some work

>>720368046
>I swear sometimes, the more I play, the worse I get.
that's a common phenomenon, you start trying too hard and start failing because of that.
I tried the last boss for almost three hours two days ago, noticed I was getting worse so stopped grinding it and beat it first try yesterday

>>720367834
If I were to guess, the devs intended for difficulty to be a part of the experience, and HK-level difficulty was not deemed sufficient for the 2025 gamer who's probably beaten HK and Elden Meme.

>>720368158
Lace freed her because she thought Silk was going to replace her with Hornet.

So what crests did you end up using?

Mine were
>Hunter for general exploration
>Wanderer for precision platforming and structured bosses
>Beast for arenas and chaotic bosses

I used Reaper for a while but the fact that the attacks are so slow and switches between high and low actually makes hitting things harder rather than easier and I eventually dropped it.

>>720367962
You're getting the dreamcast ending

>>720368207
that's marketing jargon

>>720367447
this boss fight sucks cock, he keeps despawning. FUCK
he really should not do that 123 dive combo twice anyway like wtf? he just takes all the platforms away but then you have no breathing room to dodge the fire bombs

Is there any fucking pale oil in this game outside of the gourmets quest? I swear you got upgrades throughout all of Hollow Knight, I've marked like 4 bosses to come back to later now assuming I'll get another upgrade soon but it never comes

>>720368046
The bosses require calm nerves. You can't beat them with sweaty, nervous hands.

>>720368149
Rawdogging weapon only with buff tools is the way to go, my dude. Only use silk to heal and nuke clustered ads.

>>720367934
>>720367936
okay that makes me feel better
I basically always had the compass on so it felt like I just was constantly doing slightly less and it caused unfun moments
it'll probably be the same here but I'll lose out on other qol which still sucks but is fine as long as there's not something that also shows breakable castlevania style walls which takes up the same slot

Ok am I retarded or something? How the fuck do you get to the heart of the forest? I've scoured Shellwood and can't find shit

when you save sherma after his quest if you play his song he sings a sad version of it where he's losing hope :(

>>720368336
I got my first pale oil before the quest

>>720368336
2 more, 1 easily got

>>720365761 (OP)
2nd ending spoilers
I really thought you guys are shitposting and calling everything past first ending act 3 but no, theres actually act 3 holy kino

welp I'm done. the rest of the achievements are not for me.

>>720368336
Whispering Vault has a free one

What does Hornet eat?

>>720368302
Wanderer all the way, HK 1 movement is so ingrained in my muscle memory I couldn't use the other weapons effectively

>>720368420
yeah no way i'm doing the speedrun ones

Where do I get the super jump I heard about?

>>720368490
Act 3 along the main path

>>720368302
Wanderer for everything and some Architect to have fun nuking boss.

>>720368375
the way there is NOT from Shellwood, I believe in you anon

Cogwork Dancers are the coolest fucking boss TC have made so far. Except maybe Nightmare King Grimm.

>>720368302
Didn't take Wanderer off once I saw the downward attack was the HK one, didn't realise it would be considered one of the best ones though so will have to stop myself from using it on new runs

What kind of bug is Hornet?

>>720368342
That really is all it takes. Like no joke. Just stay close and pop them as much as possible, only reacting to their attacks when necessary as lazily as possible, and they all crumble like a joke while you look like you are just bored. I'm almost sad at how effective that is most of the time.

>>720368538
>Heart of the Forest
>Not connected to the forest area

>>720368526

I had to drop Architect because I never had enough of those fucking shards. I would have been happy to use it otherwise, since its charge attack is godly.

>>720365978
There's already a mod for that, not in specific but it allows you to do essentially that. It's a "teleport" mod that lets you save your location somewhere and then teleport to it whenever. Just save your location outside the boss room and then once you've respawned and got off the bench, you press f7 again and bam you're right outside the boss room.

>>720368580
Spider

>>720367712
I keep meaning to try this out but I only remember after I've already paid

>>720368097
>>720368194
Oh I see. I kept crossing the bridge, instead of going down the shaft. Dunno how I overlooked that. Sheesh, that would have taken me hours of scouring to discover.

>>720368603
Yeah, I would have probably played it more without that stupid shards system.

How do I defeat this boss?

>>720368391
>>720368421
Thanks I'll go do vaultkeeper now then

>>720368603
>what are shard bundles

>>720366032
I farmed it on those 3 chorus mobs next to the bench at the high halls entrance
it only matters what sub-weapon you kill them with, all enemies should drop it for the most part

>>720368640
Start lifting

>>720368580
bumblebee

>>720368613
You forgot half wyrm god.

>>720368640
https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/s/dDIsA8pJ8m

>>720368640
Look up some physio exercises

I know this is a thread for the sequel but is Silksong's progression better than Hollow Knight's?
I'm playing the first game and you basically need to traverse 2 areas to finally get the dash. That's like super slow and made combat a chore. Hornet wasn't a hard boss but having to fight her jumping around while I could only walk back and forth was a pain.
Now I have to deal with a bunch of explosive mushrooms in a zone that requires a lot of vertical movement and most I can do is dash sideways since hitting them back causes them to blow up on my face.
It feels like the placement of these upgrades is all over the place.

>>720368640
You using a keyboard or something?

>>720366631
Lace, Choral Chambers, Widow, Clockwork Core, and 1-2 other tracks were good but overall I was somewhat disappointed by the OST. I expected more.

>>720368745
Silksong is even slower with getting upgrades / movement abilities. You often complete like 3 or 4 areas before getting a new movement tech. Most bosses have little/no reward. It's kind of jarring coming from other metroidvanias where you get some kind of major reward after almost every boss.

>>720368709
>>720368640
the only pain I've had from playing Silkson is a mild pain on my left hand middle finger from gripping the controller too tightly
t. pc gamer

>>720368302
Reaper is methodical to the Wanderer's harried blows. Hunter is precise. Beast is chaos law of the jungle. I don't have anything else yet.

You guys always talk about crests but no one mentions that each damn one gets a unique nailart:

Hunter gets two heavy swats forward with nice range

Wanderer is literally Lace's flurry of stabs after a quick lunge

Reaper has a massive skyward ark that hits 180 around you

I cannot wait to see what the others have because they're not talked about at all.

the only damage silksong gave me is to my pride

Is there another nail upgrade after the one that costs 500 bucks?

>>720368745
I don't really remember HK, but for silksong, yeah it's not good. You can directly get double jump after getting clawline. It feels like the devs were done gating the platforming upgrades so that they can make more stuff that requires everything.

>>720368828
maaan

>>720368745
Honestly by the time I had dash, sprint, two air dashes (three of you count the spell) and the double jump, and the parachute fall, I felt a bit overwhelmed by the mobility utility. As if it came at me faster than I had a chance to get used to committing it to muscle memory.

>>720368878
Yes and it costs even more rosaries, for some reason, think it was 750?

whats in the weavenest past the seamstress?

>>720368860
Charge attacks were pretty situational in the first one and now you only have 1 at a time so I really can't find a time to use them

>>720367834
You don't play as an eldritch horror

>>720368640
>>720368838
i was playing on the switch in bed and widow made my elbows hurt

>>720368936
It was 900 but it's Act 3 so there's nothing else to buy despite the fact you just saved his life

>>720368941
Charm that makes you faster

>>720368880
It isn't like it changes my plan to play it but that's so weird
>>720368919
Sounds like they staved off and then put all the movement upgrades near each other. I'm not complaining much but I'm gonna assume Hornet's playstyle involves more reaction like parrying or something then compared to the Hollow Knight's since as soon as I got the dash I started spamming it to hit and run.

>>720368959
They added huge variety over the first game and you guys can't be bothered with them? I'm stunned. This is actually what I looking forward to all of act 1.

>>720366032
Citadel mobs because you get rosaries at the same time

THe actual HK (the big brother) is not in this at all sob sob

>>720365936
It sounds like finnish to me too

>>720369012
oh thats it? i thought weavenests all have crests or abilities or some big shit?

You ARE using your tools regularly right, anon?

>The only moment Hornet shows any kind of emotion is during the tentacle surgery
I guess it hurt that bad eh

>>720365761 (OP)
Knowing Hollow Knight, the reward for saving all the fleas will be a reveal that they all fell in a vat of acid.

>>720369090
I have to wonder what happened to him given it's implied the godmaster ending is canon. Did he and Hornet fight or just go their separate ways?

>let my brother play Hollow Knight
>it's fine he is more of a FPS guy and all but his reactions must be goo-
>dies twice
And there goes 900 moneys

>>720369178
I ran out of shards 3 bosses ago

>>720369016
Your mileage may vary. This particular metroidvania is structured in a way to be more non-linear than most i think. For me, it just seemed like suddenly I was a mobility god, and I was fumbling with my new double jump and parachute because they are both activated with the jump button of course. I still fumble with the zip line and air dash even mid boss fight because my brain abandons me and I forget witch trigger does witch. Silly shit like that. It is a lot of mobility though.

>>720369213
That device is something straight out of a guro h-game.

>>720369178
but what if i need them later

>>720369040
There's variety and then there's purposely gimping yourself, why would I want to use a charge attack when it does less damage than just hitting them, like it doesn't feel fun having to hold the button and wait for the right time to use it either, if it was like press a button at the right time and you get an instant charge that'd be cool, plus I heard they don't even generate silk

>>720369172
I think there's a lore item in there too but I didn't get it

Is there any way to tell what mask shards/spool fragments I'm missing?

silk thong

>>720369295
Between that and the animated coating cutscene, clearly one of the dev has a weird fetish.

>>720369178
Yeah, though I didn't touch them for the last boss.

I spent too much time in Act 2, my motivation for Act 3 is waning

I haven't seem much gameplay of other people.
Are other people spamming the charge attack like I am?
I feel like it's the new pogo, on top of the old pogo and the harpoon spam.
Hornet is much faster than the knight when moving around the fight, HK will probably feel super slow to go back to.

I keep hearing about "shakra's quest", where does it start so I don't miss it

this is about how far I am thus far, if map progress gives any idea

>>720369178
no because im constantly fucking running out of shards. fucking terrible system

>git gud!
maybe i have a skill issue, but thats besides the point. name one (1) reason for shards existing that makes the game more fun or more challenging in a rewarding, non-grindy way

>>720369373
Honestly, only the beginning of act 3 is fun, beyond that it's a huge chore. Most of the act 3 bosses aren't good, either.

>>720369345
Other than looking at a map that has them all and using your memory no, it sucks, I'm missing 1 mask shard and 2 spools, could be anywhere and unless I want to comb over the entire map again I'll have to cheat

>>720369373
take a break, I'm in the same situation and that's my intent

>>720369178
For exploration and dealing with flying enemies yes, not so much for bosses because landing a tool hit doesn't grant any silk and a regular attack generally does more damage and doesn't cost beast shards

>>720369406
it charges way too slow compared to hollow knight, don't know if there's a tool for it or whatever

It's cool and all how we are getting a ton of fanart of girls in jumpsuits but makes me wish there was some modicum of character creation in a game like this. Like ''make your own bug! Choose the cape he wears, the kind of carapace he will have''

>>720368302
I swapped through most of them just to try stuff out, but I haven't swapped off The Witch since I got it. Being able to do absurd burst damage with the mirror + the heal increaser (it adds another hit I think) kinda ruined the other crest for me, I even managed to catch both combatants in one of the duel bosses once with it. It does make healing a little risky though, though most bosses can't take much more than 3 uses of it if the full thing connects.

>>720368640
get a grip strengthener and do some reps every once in a while. really makes a difference

She killed by her son if you don't finish her quest till act 3 lmao

>the high halls gauntlet drops TWO of the big dude on you at the end
Oh jeez.

>>720369016
>Sounds like they staved off and then put all the movement upgrades near each other
Nah they're pretty well spaced out. As in several hours of gameplay between each movement upgrade.
>Dash
Couple hours
>Glide/Float
Several hours
>Wall Jump
Another good while
>Grapple dash
Potentially instant if you stop everything and turn around to get it
>Double Jump
Several hours
>Vertical shinespark

>>720369505
save all your sub weapons until then and spam em
that's what I did

>>720369502
that's predictable based on the dialogue, she tells you as much if you do her quest
she wonders if it's wrong for her to want to avoid sacrificing herself for her children

>>720369040
There is a bug where needle strike doesn't generate silk on hit (could be intentional). Pin badge is also acquired relatively late into your playthrough so you're using the long charge up for most of it. I won't ruin the surprise and I'll just say I think you'll be pleased with the upcoming crests.

It starts when you meet her. It finishes when she invites you to meet her master. She'll then set up camp permanently in Bellhart and you can duel her just outside it in greymoor.

>>720368828
>>720368745
it's so jarring
every time i beat a boss or a gauntlet room, i'll look around to see if there's any kind of reward whatsoever and there often isn't
makes me feel like i missed something, but no, at best you get a new piece of memory slot equipment
the big game-changing upgrades like new movement tech or silk abilities are hours and hours apart

>>720366547
Beastfly wasn't that hard

Fully finished the game without a guide. Shave off 15 hours or so of AFK. Better than the first game. The original feels like a cakewalk in comparison and the only reason the Pantheon of Hallownest is even challenging is due to taking 30+ minutes per try against all the bosses in the game in a row.

The UI is the biggest issue in Silksong. You don't get prompted to select another tool when you unequip one. Instead you unequip it, then you have to navigate to a new tool. You also constantly have to tab left and right several times to get to the right menu. There's also no way to filter the enemies you haven't completed in the journal, and you can only cycle through them from top to bottom with the confirmation button. Use left and right and you instead switch tabs. They need to hire someone to do UX fo them for the next game.

Also, the Passing of the Age ending confirms another sequel.

>>720369492
Mirror + Warding Bell + Multibinder on Witch crest is OP as fuck
Not only do your attacks get insane range, your heals also become an offensive tool, it's such a good combo and besides the extra range it doesn't feel like a crutch like the Wanderer crest does

>>720368128
I liked it, felt like Vergil 3 in DMC3. Just needs to tone down the teleporting in the last section. Try to get some distance and she teleports inside you.

>>720369649
for
>>720369419

Something neat: taunting in front of Widow instead of speaking to her has Hornet whip out her needle and essentially say "Hey, bitch", starting the fight immediately and skipping all dialogue.

>>720369652
I agree, it would not have killed them to have bosses shower you with beads or shards when they die.

>>720369649
>>720369713
okay yeah, looking it up it says I have to find her in Bilewater but I haven't gotten there yet, so I'll keep going

Besides looking cool is there any benefit to deflecting attacks?

>>720369737
neat

I'm about to go to act3,
is there anything I'm missing zone wise?
I'm missing one mask shard to gain a health point, is this normal, is max health achievable pre-act 3?

>>720368598
It is in Shellwood. The way in just isn't part of the main area. Honestly kind of a dick move to put it where they did, since they kind of point out the broken wall to you on the way down, but by the time you get to act 3, you are going to have completely forgotten about that elevator shaft.

>>720369840
theres a silk skill that lets you parry and do damage if you successfully deflect

It's time to game

Khanns music was unbearably hype holy shit

Is the wardenfly in Greymoor random? I keep going to the area before the bell beast at the start of act 2 and it's just the regular enemies. Had to fight Moorwing there first too.

>>720369840
Err yeah they don't do damage to you

>>720369849
Have you fought Shakra?
If you've done her wish, exit Bellhart to the right and ding the ring

>>720369953
I haven't. Will do.

how big is act 3

>>720369840
your attack timer resets immediately and you get very short iframes

>>720369894
where? it's not on nexus

>>720369894
>bump into some fat enemy
>take two damage, just because he's fat

>>720369894
cheated not only the game but yourself

>>720369894
kek, do shitters really?

Is the Last Dive quest after getting the Everbloom the point of no return?

>>720370032
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/119
remember to leave a positive comment :3

>>720369840
countering combo attack is fucking sick, that's your benefit.

>>720370020
If you know where to go, not very
If you don't know, you'll be walking around trying to find things feeling like a dumb ass because you didn't make any kind of notes about Areas that can only be reached by a super jump
I only had two marked down after realising it must be a thing

>>720369849
9 hp is maximum for act 2 and there are 4 more shards in act 3.

>>720369840
Yes, parry straight up gives invincibility frames, so sometimes on some attacks or enemies you can phase through them, ignore other attacks or at least end up closer to them with an advantage. But, it's unreliable and specific. Also you nullify two dmg multi-hits instead of eating them

>>720370071
Nah, you can come back up anytime.

>>720369737
gurama!

>>720370071
It's the end of the game but you can load your save and still explore everywhere, it's a bit of a pain to get back though

>>720369894
ONE MOD
I DON'T KNOW WHY
I CAN'T GIT GOOD NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY

lace silk thong

>>720369894
I don't understand why not just do invincibility cheat at this point

>>720369894
Every single mod for this game on the Nexus makes the game easier for shitters, and almost all of them have 20k+ downloads. I'm a PCgoy, but this is fucking embarrassing.

>>720369586
Same. On the final area I just turned the whole arena into buzzsaws.

where do we stand on the question of whether Hornet is a lolibaba?
she gets called a kid a lot and is actually older than everybody

>>720369894
I love how it makes all nerds in this "comfy" thread seethe just for a mod that doesn't affect them.
I finished the game 100% completion and I applaud your mod. Fuck contact damage, it's not fun.

>>720369505
I just spammed tools and dodged, no shame.
It's bullshit, like the Deep Docks boss.

So I just killed grand mother silk
That's it? Did I missed something, I though there would be more stuff to do...

>>720369318
>why would I want to use a charge attack when it does less damage than just hitting them
That's not true, dingus. Old charge attack is 2.5 hits in an instant. You have bosses with narrow damage windows, so which would be more efficient: getting in one charged hit plus a regular swipe or getting in two hits top and massively dependent on attack speed if you get more?

Your feelings that they do the same damage are incredibly shortsighted. As I explained those three different nail arts that needle has at the beginning of the game are all powerful zoning tools when used in the correct position. You can ungabunga all you like, that doesn't mean they're worthless.

I heard someone say that the spear guy can help me get the conductor's melody, is that true?

>>720370190
Kek

>>720370410
You have to do all quests in the three hubs and then talk to an NPC in the Songclave to get another one called Silk and Song, which requires you to explore most of the map. Then you get to act 3. Not even a third into the game if all you've done is follow the main objective.

>>720370465
You mean the guy who helps with Moorwing?

I've been playing on beta branch and I've already died several times from they cutting the short float override.

>>720370138
thanks

>>720365761 (OP)
>25 hours
>still on act 1
Man is act 2 and 3??? don't know if there is super short or what?

Like I kill bosses pretty fast and I haven't farm, this is all from exploring.
And I haven't even finished the worm zone

>>720370520
Also have to buy all the maps and grant Shakra's wish.

>>720370465
If he's sitting at the right wall of Songclave, you can no longer get his help nor challenge him

>>720370590
bro you're in act 2

>>720370590
You're in act 2.

>>720370520
Ho nice, that's reassuring. I had a feeling it was sort of a "bad end", but there was no indication of it in the credits.

>>720370429
I was talking about the new ones, I did use the old charge attacks in HK on bosses that you couldn't get good hits on, now depending on the crest you have it might not be good for hit and run attacks and in what other situation are you going to spend time charging for other than that

>>720369894
whats the point? Just play a different game

brehs... i cant bring myself to get the act 4, im so burnt out after 43 hours... bilewater and the cone place fucking killed me desire to play

>>720370429
While I agree with you in theory, in practice its pretty different.
The amount of time spent dodging, pogoing, parrying and Other means most of the time I don't have time to charge up an attack safely.
It might be viable with the Pinmistress trinket but I've not actually tried that and it'll only be useful for the Boss Rush

>>720370590
you cant get to cogwork in act 1

Is there something valuable in running together with Loam aside some rosaries?

>>720370692
Why not? You didn't beat the game if you used any tool, so removing contact damage isn't that different.

How do I cure my tree AIDS after giving baby cthulu to the witch, I went back to her hideout and destroyed her shell but I'm still cursed

>>720370762
the consumable throwing daggers are fucking useless and do zero damage, I honestly couldnt care less.

>>720370783
Try talk to NPCs

>>720370590
Act 2 starts when you enter the citadel, dude.

>>720368640
Dead hangs

>>720370783
Go to Yharnam

>Charged attack (architect): 130
I kneel

>>720370783
there's a doctor in greymoor

WHY IS THIS SHIT GREEN TF IS THIS

>>720370783
talk to bell town mayor or the cathedral grandma

>>720370835
Did you even play the game beyond the needle pin or what

>>720369737
Supposedly you can do this with any "waiting" boss, and yeah it's basically The Knight's "challenge" pose.

>>720370882
You are wearing the "I wanna get hit lmao" charm

>>720370882
your trinkets my man

>>720370882
It's the druid charm,
I have no idea what the point of it is since you need to get hit multiple times for a single strand of silk

>>720368828
It's bizarre that you don't even get rosaries or shell shards after bosses

>no visual indicator if she's going to do her jump or swipe attack
>no visual indicator if she's going to jump after the 2nd dash or if she's going to continue on to the third dash
Who fucking designed this fight

>>720370994
>did not get his name
>nobody knows his name during burial

>>720370841
I tried talking to a few, Eva has unique dialogue and puts up a forcefield so you can't get near her but no others I tried did

>>720370910
Thanks I'll try them

If I beat Shakra in a duel once is there anything to gain from beating her again? It was a fun fight but I have a lot of other things to be doing if there's nothing to actually gain from it

>>720370882
mossberry partial silk recovery

>>720370753
Anyone?

>>720371041
are you talking about lost lace? yeah she sucks

>>720371110
Letting an old man get a few moments of rest

>>720371054
Bro...

>>720370969
it works best with witch or beast crests since they have lifesteal and can afford to be hit more often.

>>720370969
I think the idea is you'd use it with the upgraded version along with beast crest and just go ungabunga lifesteal mode

>>720371041
Position yourself so you can react to either then

Uhhh, guys. I started playing today and did some quests, did Shakra's one and then went to farm meat, and then I notice that my silk meter is back to default as if I never upgraded it, what the fuck happened? Is this a bug?

>>720371149
Just how many variants are in the game for this little fella?

how much health does the bell eater have ffs

>>720371149
is the way to avoid the bad timeline to not open the door next to pilgrims rest before act2?

Last Judge's runback is annoying
I'm glad I persevered through Bilewater and went the other way into Act 2.

>>720371205
Did you die? Go whack your cocoon.

>>720371149
YOU CAN SAVE HIM?!

>>720371164
they don't, they get the same amount of healing as normal crest, with extra conditions afaik

>>720366547
the rematch in the lava area is way worse

HAHAHAHAHAA THE WAVE THE WAVE OF ENEMIES NEVER ENDS

>>720369894
Contact damage would be fine if it only dealt max 1 damage instead of 2

>>720371265
Holy fuck, I never realized the silk meter gets nerfed when you die. I thought you just lost your rosaries.

Where do you get the grapple and double jump?
I'm fucking around in the citadel atm

ant queen is kicking my ass
even poison cogfly cant carry me

>>720371303
I disagree, you have enough upgrades and enough room to move around there

>>720371235
Someone else said it gets fucked up regardless but I won't be breaking it on my next run to test anyway.

>>720371107
>If I beat Shakra in a duel once is there anything to gain from beating her again? It was a fun fight but I have a lot of other things to be doing if there's nothing to actually gain from it
Would also like to know this

>>720371303
You mean it's 10x easier since you already know most gimmicks and the boss doesn't summon nearly as much as the first?
Surely you're a human being capable of learning?

>>720371243
is the other way through the organ?

>>720369216
anon the grubs don't die in HK, it's part of their lifecycle. it's weird and nonsensical but they need it to grow.

>>720371416
sometimes the RNG just fucks you and all the platforms disappear

SOVLFUL new title screen after the true ending.

>>720368302
I've used all of them but beast is my least used so far. It just has too many downsides. I hope it gets an upgrade later in the game or something. My most used have to be reaper and wanderer

>>720369502
>>720369635
What happens to her if you do finish the quest? It just looked like she left.

>void moss mother x2
Visual clutter the boss fight lmao

>>720371460
It's not RNG, you control where he slams. Also, when all the platforms are gone it speeds up the respawn of one of them so you just glide for a few moments

>>720371424
yeah

>>720371387
grapple, go through whiteward; you can access it from the bottom right of one of the tall vertical rooms in choral chambers

double jump i believe is mt fay

>>720371460
Yeah you're bad then
>The first platform that is submerged will always come back after he dunks last platform
>you can actually bait him in the lava, he'll dive in it before reappering where you at, so you can essentially gain a few seconds if you're bad enough to not be able to jump for the 1st case
bro you're just bad.

>>720371497
no idea, not in act3 yet

>>720371303
I just beat this and I was almost raging
I wasnt utilizing my grapple thingy because im tired, and the whole fight was way easier once I did that, but I did have to switch off my main set to the fast attack speed style
also the boss killed himself in lava 3 times and did not come back up. it only happened on my good attempts, I was so fucking mad, I had to kill myself to restart the fight

>>720371291
You have to do very specific things to get him to move on before bad shit happens to the settlement.
>Tyrant Skull can fuck up Bone Bottom, killing him
>Rhino beetle can charge through the open door if Hornet broke it, killing him
He can apparently make it all the way to Songclave. Where he will die in Act 3, Pilby just can't catch a fucking break.

>>720371514
>>720371551
>durr artificial difficulty is LE GOOD
retarded bootlickers

>got 2 hearts left
>hit this big jellyfish to gauge what it will do
>smaller jellyfishes do nothing
>jellyfish is sent flying against the wall then becomes a homing missile that tracks back to me, blows up in a huge AoE and deals 2 hearts of damage
Well thank you

>>720371576
>he will die in Act 3
WHAT THE FUCK

>>720371460
you can manage it by getting him to dive in the lava

>>720371528
ty

>>720371583
Omega retard controls what platforms get dunked and somehow, it's artificial difficulty.
I mean, you're not wrong, imagine I'd be subjected to your retardness in game, that would be impossible to finish I guess.

>>720365761 (OP)
yeah but at least Groal is a cakewalk

>>720368302
I use all of them, alternate every now and then. My favorite is architect because of the giga drill, shame it doesn't have a silk skill slot

>>720371596
Ooma claims another victim

>>720371460
you have to be flying the whole time basically
bounce off your silk corpse to get free hits on him during the scream, its really easy to climb him after the 3rd dive attack because he rises slower and that will gaurantee like 4 hits.

mostly you need to be utilizing a certain upgrade that lets you chase him horizontally, you should barely be touching the ground even before the back up little shits arrive

>>720368302
I almost always use Reaper

>>720371742
reaper is the chad choice, but I hate that dive attack

>>720369428
they exist so you don't rape every boss by spamming all your tools because they're way too strong. if you had unlimited shards tools damage would have to be nerfed by a lot
I would be fine with that actually

>think about how the song from the trailer isnt used anywhere unlike the one from HK trailer
>play some more
>oooh
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>720371623
Unless you're in steel soul.

>>720366928
In the Memorium? Above the place we save the merchant lady? How do you get further up?

>its just rosaries here
>i have to make my way back
are you fr

>>720371235
I had that event before I opened that door.

>>720371806
Why in the world TC would give pouch upgrades that gives more slots then? It's completely a retarded and antithetic to the design you're talking about.

Is there a point to upgrading your home in Bellheart?

hornet's voice makes me feel weird

>>720368093
What? What's the route you're taking?

>>720371831
...the eastern exit of that zone

>>720371806
yeah, it's pretty apparent that the shards mechanic was introduced to patch the hole the architect crest drove a tank through

>>720365761 (OP)
quick question. I did reach act 2 but I was wopndering if the myst has any boss in that are since I escaped from it but the only enemies there were ghosts

>>720368128
Yet

what are you supposed to do with the cogwork heart the architect was incredibly vague about it

>>720371893
You really dont want Lace to come over and say "bitch you live like this?"

Which streamers were exposed by Silksong

Reached Citadel and I still haven't hear any music that's as good as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDn70jh1V0&ab_channel=Amellifera
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmsjvBivRkU

>>720371806
obvious solution is just having the existing tool limits, and they just automatically reset upon benching without requiring a resource to be expended

>>720371958
>Why do you have a loud beating heart just above your bed??????
Sell her the house for tens of thousand of bucks

>>720371976
god gamer here

>>720371754
You get infinite regenerating health though

>>720371837
Just save and quit if you wanna be a bitch

>>720371981
the only tracks in the game that has hit as hard as any from HK have been choral chambers and fucking bilewater

>>720371938
yes, there's a boss

>>720371996
I regret this one so much

>>720371952
You have to find the second sentinel and put it into him to bring him back to life. Then he tells you what he was made for and he will occasionally pop up throughout the citadel to help you with fights. Afterwards he'll put up a quest in songclave which asks you to meet him in the high halls to fight and if you win you get the bind reserve charm which gives you an extra heal separate from your normal silkbar

Team Cherry please nerf tacks and cogfly thanks

>>720368302
I've just been doing Hunter the entire time. Beast's dive attack is too ass and I don't really like the hitbox on Reaper's attacks. Wanderer is neat but the range is too short for my liking and I hate not having a real dash attack but I might mess around with it now that I have Longclaw. I'd switch to Reaper to do some of the more annoying pogo sections but that's all.

>shaman crest is the magic focused crest
Oh cool that will synergize perfectly with all the tools that help build silk like Druid's eye and uuuuhhhhhh

>>720368302
I've settled on Hunter after trying out Architect, Reaper and Wanderer.
Reaper is probably easier to use, but I like the fast sharp pogo attacks of Hunter.
Wanderers attack speed is rarely useful and has yellow slots at the expense of good slots.
Architect hits like a truck, but requires chargeup, which sort of puts it in the Wanderer category.

I think Reaper will fall off when people are playing the equivalent of Godhome and know the bosses in and out, but it's good for now.

The crests that don't heal normally aren't even on my radar. Too exotic for me.

>>720372113
It's not our fault, we couldn't have known that.
Team Cherry ruined the house themselves.

>>720372151
they're as powerful as they need to be. most bosses in hollow knight are trivialized by shaman stone and magic spam

>>720371923
What? But the eastern exit leads to the Putrified Ducks. Or did I miss something.

>>720372151
>NOooooo TEAM CHERRY, PLEASE, nerf these items that the shitters are using because they are catching up to me, and that would mean I'm a shitter too!!!!!!!
How about you stop caring about what people are using or not.

>>720372218
Thing is some fucking anon said you need 3 hearts but there are 4 and u get to choose which ones to give so i wanted to keep the Karmelita one.
There was no option

>>720371812
which one? the escape sequence or the abyss one?

>>720371981
I dont really like the music of either. no game that mimics darksouls vibe has any kind of jam, even darksouls just has ornstein and smough, thats fucking it (for me).
the whole game is too busy being depressed and sad to make me care about the music. Yeah I fucking get it, its sad. This stuff just makes me wanna put my own music on.

>>720371754
Chat is this real?

how am I supposed to kill this cocksucker if I can't parry block or dodge

>>720372283
The eastern exit of Whiteward, the zone in the picture

>>720372323
you're supposed to get the dodge skill first, obviously

>>720372306
I never had any option whatsoever, and I don't even know where my other hearts are. It just picked one, probably the last I got.
I don't know, it just sucks.

>>720372310
It was Deep Dive.

>Masks in HK are directly stated to give consciousness to bugs that would be beasts even in Hallownest
>Mask Maker in Pharloom is only capable of freely talking if you take his mask off
??

>>720372323
Good distancing.

they missed an opportunity to add slopes from mount fay in bilewater or putrified ducts to dump you into maggots

>>720369428
>no because im constantly fucking running out of shards.
Do you use your tools on every single shitter enemy you run into? I don't think I've ever gone below 200 shards.

>>720372361
But you get dodge at the end of hunter's march?

Is that the biggest Metroidvania?

>>720372374
Fuck, I meant Last Dive.

what is the reward for gathering all mooshkas?

>>720372323
You can parry

>>720372323
you can dodge, just not with that attitude
I dont really remember but I just kept going for lame pot shots because I think he swings over head? I would just walk up and walk back and then get 1 hit
but im pretty sure you can just pogo jump on his head, most tough enemies in the game really fall apart to that

>>720372323
you need to unlock running beforehand, that way you could evade his attacks

>>720372412
The game are already fucking itself up with bugs, imagine if the game had slopes

>>720367680
finally someone else is saying it. i fucking ruined my home with this
i got the gramophone and sauna but what's the point? i will never step foot in there again

>>720372431
the only thing you get from Hunters March is the crutch mask and beast crest
you can bypass it until act 2 if you want, it's what I did because the big red and fucked me too hard and I gave up it until I got a weapon upgrade

>>720371992
that works for every crest except architect
I assure you, the thought process went like this
>okay guys, lets add tools to the game like throwables and the like! they'll have limited uses and reset at a bench!
>awesome!
>some months or years later - okay guys, lets brainstorm some ideas for these crests!
>what if one of them took your spells away, but you can reload your tools instead!
>that's awesome, write that down!
>some more months or years later - huh, you know playtesting this now, unlimited tools is really really overpowered
>yeah, but we already made tools and this crest. and the crest is really unique and fun so just removing its gimmick entirely will gimp it
>what if we added a currency that you need to replenish your tools? that way even architect can't just spam them forever
>it will have to do, make it!

>>720371981
they are going for a different vibe, i personally really like the Lace theme, and the first ending boss theme as well

Do I gain anything from dueling Shakra? I have beat her, but she says we can do duel again, is there a reward after x wins, or is it just for fun?

>>720369146
Finloom.

>>720372587
JOURNAL

>>720372561
Nigger there is no way to get dash without going through hunter's march.

>>720372431
no you don’t. hunter’s march is entirely optional

>>720372376
Masks define and refine what consciousness is there, it's why you can't just put a mask on a feral bug and suddenly it's a person.
So a mask maker without their mask will still make masks, just wildly and without direction.

>>720372376
You know how intelligent or people who think too much take drugs to make themselves dumb on purpose?
Yea

Does the cursed act 2 ending count for 100%? Please say no, because if that's the case I just cucked myself from achieving 100% on my save file (didn't do it before act 3)

>>720368336
anon what if the content you're skipping has pale oil

>>720371981
yea, music is inferior to the original
not a music guy so I can't explain why, but it's kind of meh

>>720372376
Masks can do that, but the majority of what they do is give a "command". This is why the Pale King was able to make King's Mould. He used a mask with the basic command of "Guard" to the Void. Masks helped to define and shape what bugs were. This is why Deep Nest Spiders started to wear masks to try to curb their desire to hunt and kill other bugs. It's why the mask is removed when they want to kill.
>Stalker Devote have their masks made out of blades
>Midwife's mask splits in half to reveal her real face and sharp teeth

>>720372576
oh ok, i havent unlocked architects yet
so its gimmick is that you can replenish tools without benching?

>>720372284
I already beat the game, they can eat shit now

>>720372634
No it doesn't count, it's mostly quests and storyline I think, maybe ability/masks/silk upgrade
even the journal is not counted

>>720372613
you are mistaken

>>720372697
Oh okay, thank God.

>>720372612
So just the one win?

>>720372682
yeah, you don't have a spell slot, but you get a second bind type that reloads your tools on the fly

>>720372634
I think crest is a 1% so might be cucked until patch

>>720372376
I think it's implicit that the mask maker isn't just a regular bug that makes mask. They're something else that isn't explained.

>>720372761
it also has three weapon tool slots so you're just armed to the teeths

>cradle is easy!
Do it with beast

Can I be real for a sec? I cant stand this flavor of metroidvania with barely any core upgrades. The reason you play these """soulslike""" games is just for the combat and boss fights.
the thrill of the boss fight is your shitty reward and I hate that. I am a greedy piece of shit and I want a new upgrade after every locked door encounter.
The difficulty is nice and its funny to watch all these new fanboys seethe like they didnt play the first game or something, but its just not scratching that itch for me.

>>720372376
>>720372628
The Simp has a collection of Masks to swap between depending on what role he/she is filling for its Simp subject

>get item that makes you immune to maggots
>it's breaks extremely quickly
Thanks, I guess.

so again, if i gather all mooshkas and barishkabas, do i gain something good?

>>720372761
does reloading expend silk? i feel like if it took a full silk spool, like healing does, that would still potentially work in a shardless world

>>720372881
its the only way to get true ending
also dmg upgrade

>>720372881
Of course. But you'll need to establish dominance to obtain the second reward

>>720372865
Why is the huntress mask there

>>720372880
Only if youre swimming in the stuff and not making an active effort to jump out
Its very useful for the runback to lord Grok

>>720372881
needle upgrade

>>720372915
yes, you can either heal or reload but it costs the same

>>720372881
A charm, and then later minigame pain for the last pale oil.

>>720372949
no you only need to have the fleas move to putrified ducts, and it's only to unlock act 3 (which is basically a straight route to true ending), so you don't actually need to get all of them

There’s a daddy long legs in my bathroom that low-key has a nice ass ngl

>>720372613
I went through deep docks, did a challenge room and reached it, no big bad red bug fighting needed

>>720371883
so you aren't limited by the cap to use more on a boss / gauntlet that's giving you trouble? as long as you don't spam them at every problem you face you'll never run out of shards
in the end it's still a problem if you need that crutch but still fuck up and keep dying until you run out of shards. less tool damage and capacity but unlimited refills at a bench would be better

Damn he is lucky

She has a sister? What?

>>720373059
well, technically you entered a room from hunter's march, so yeah you can't get it without going through hunter's march

>>720373049
okay my mooshkas already in duct, what does it gives me? i mean they just go here, i don't see any true ending here?

>>720373025
got it, thanks anon. it sounds like the only one that would persuade me off of hunter, depending on its pogo.

i agree with your assessment for how shards came to exist, but im honestly not convinced it necessitates them existing

Do we see the weavers again? I would like to kill this cowardly fuck for jump scaring me

Finally got everything in my first save file, 100% + all mementos.
Now I have to do the cursed secret ending and all the steel soul and speedrun achievements.

btw do not leave the area with the Rhino beetle in Far Fields or he will despawn and brick your save so you can't complete the hunter's journal. Only way to fix that is by modifying your save file.

>>720373132
I am wrong, technically, the worse kind of wrong

>>720372576
you could simply limit architect's refill to once per bench, full use of 3 tools x2 is already more than enough

>>720372762
I got the Witch crest without doing the ending if that's what you're referring to

>>720373109
So it it canon that Hornet inherited his foresight?
It would have explained death system.

>>720373170
kinda
not really

>>720373068
It's still contradictory and the opposite of fun.
The game gives you many broken option, but somehow there is an arbitrary limit to tools.
>less tool damage and capacity but unlimited refills at a bench would be better
I agree. It's a stupid design choice by Team Cherry. They should choose one, or the other, but not dip in the middle.

Ok am I mistaken, did relics really give you barely any rosaries before they got buffed?
Theyre locked behind extended combat or platforming sequences or really well hidden, why did they only give like 80 rosaries befoee

>>720373179
Feel like I saw a 3rd rhino beetle somewhere in act 3, but I can't recall where.

>>720373192
I never thought about it, but you're right, she always startles awake on the bench after she dies.

>>720373179
>btw do not leave the area with the Rhino beetle in Far Fields or he will despawn and brick your save so you can't complete the hunter's journal
is this something that you find pretty late on? if im early-mid act 2 would i have been there?

>>720373165
>depending on its pogo
it's the same as Hunter's but now you can charge it for extra drill damage

>endless room of bullshit
Fuck off

>>720369857
Yeah I found it eventually. Really stupid spot but I guess they figured with the marker their you'll check around the whole thing eventually

>>720373276
Poison tacks and/or buzzsaws are your friend.

>>720373254
nice, ill probably convert whenever i get it

>>720373241
He's in Far Fields

>>720373276
Also stuck here, the waves of enemies on this game give me more trouble than boss fights

>>720373148
It's a requirement to unlock act 3.
When you're in act 3, you just follow the main quest and finish the game, there is only one ending.
Did you really expect the game to end at the fleas? wtf?

The actual worst flying enemy in the game

>>720373253
it can be accessed even in act 1 but that secret wall is the easiest to spot and yet the hardest to spot, almost everyone misses it

>>720372576
Then why the fuck do scales actually drop off in terms of difficulty of acquisition?
The further into the game you go, the harder it is to farm for them, which ironically means the areas you fuck around with architect in it's harder to keep stock up.

>I REFUSE TO USE TOOLS
Said me before I entered skull cavern in Far Field

>>720373351
whats the reward?

>>720373192
That is actually a good explanation

>>720373327
yeah, I had to go find some damage upgrade before it became manageable

>>720373253
It's the room to the right of Pilgrim's Rest where you hear a beast knocking the closed door.

>>720373401
You're that kind of guy that played Elden Ring like it was Dark Souls 1.

>>720371469
With her mother and all weavers gone
Lace has to remain with hornet to survive

>steel soul
>quick load quick load quick load quick load
holy shit im bad

>>720373441
oh cool, ive not been there yet, thanks anon. i never figured out how to open the door

>>720373221
nah, you're right, they gave me fuck all money when I turned them in
I with an anon yesterday about whether farming rosaries is necessary, and it turned out he was right.
I needed about 3k more to buy everything after exploring everything.
Sure it's easy enough to farm that much, but I don't think that's a good way to design this sort of game.
Mindlessly grinding enemies for resources is MMO shit. Even if it just took me 30 minutes of dedicated farming.

So I assume the two cog pieces you get from the little melody puzzles are to make the 3 flying bugs tool? How the fuck do you reassemble them? In the cog works?
Also I must have missed it. Are the ant folk like the merchant that lets you access the architect crest the ones that made the cog core?

>>720373179
you find another beetle in act 3 in far fields

>>720371397
It does. I never bothered to open it and the place is still fucked up. Also think I can't get the full hunt log for the rhino thing now since I can't fight it anymore

>>720373401
boss HP is balanced around tools which is kinda ironic

>>720373457
A chad?

>>720373457
I refuse to use it because shards system is beyond retarded

>>720373254
Well, it is a diagonal, but isn't the same. Hunter sends you forwards. Where drill will send you down a bit and then just stop. So actually easy to recover from a miss. I love my fucking drill though. I am going to get a mod that gives me whatever crest I want at the start and do a full playthrough like that. Only need to have Silk Spear to free bell beast and open two paths and then I can switch it back.

>>720372306
If you go with all 4 hearts they use the ones that are shown on the map (i.e. gay frogs' is left over). If you go with 3 out of 4 hearts they use those and you can get the last one later as a memento.

The Mist got an intentional shortcut patched in.
Follow the wisps for 2 rooms, and then use any exit. Then, follow the wisps for 1 room, and use any exit. No ingame hint towards it but yknow, would be weird to implement

>>720373009
Isn't that the one he wears by default?

>>720373502
It shows up in Act 3 Far Fields. Hope you like fighting it while Voided.

>>720373529
Brick of a lifetime

Is there anything between weavenest atla and deep docks? the map looks weirdly empty there

>>720373593
You could just revert your save before you kill Karmelita and then do the ones you don't have. I would totally do it, I loved her fight out of all the bosses the most.

FUCK karmellita is impossible

>>720373329
no i just dont know anything about act 3, literally nothing in the game tells me about it. im just running around doing shits.

Damn the void scary as hell and that crazy dude the King was just fucking around in there like it wasn't that big a deal.
Like he was more upset and worried over his kids the entire time than the unfathomable power of the abyss.

Can I get all fleas on act 2, without the last movement skill?

>>720373675
>just revert literally entire game because of badump badump in your home
im not that autistic and im not doing sprintmaster, journal grind and flea dodge ever again

>>720373770
Yeh, but the final reward is act 3 only

Seth was a good fight but that plant lady fucking sucked. I'm noticing a pattern where the fun fights are all nimble characters roughly Hornet's size while the shit ones are always huge. The good ones also only do one mask of touch damage which is nice

>>720373486
Nope, there's 3 pieces and it's a different side quest. The bugs tool just needs ore

Is it true if i dont free the thief i will find his items randomly scattered later?

>>720373770
I think so, but one of them is a fucking huge pain in the ass without the vertical ascent move

>>720373689
Treat her like Grimm. Stop being so aggressive and let her lead the dance. You can dodge when she moves towards you with a single jump. You can use parry to stop her projectiles. Watch her animation closely and you should easily be able to tell what attack she's using.

>>720373854
What are these items? I didn't free him cause I thought I needed a key, only later I watch someone break the door, still found him in the slab and in his shop

>>720373545
Huh, so they are giving you some leeway in fucking up? Iirc it's just 5 rooms following the flies originally

>>720373992
>still found him in the slab and in his shop
nevermind then

>>720374032
Its mainly a speedrunner thing because it was the most rng reliant thing in the entire run and the silksong devs are obsessed with their game being a good speedrun game

>>720373276
>>720373327
You can cheese it with the wall on the left side, they can't hit the top of it. It's a safe spot when the boss is out.

>>720373695
Not that anon but I've been picking around putting off beating the boss and ended up with the quest to start act 3 before beating her. You just need a certain amount of completion

Can you awaken crests other than Hunter? I’ve been using Reaper and don’t want to switch back.

Also, do yellow charms ever actually get any good? Bead magnet and thief’s mark are my go-to for exploration but those are a liability for any boss fight, so I’ve been switching to heavy belt and magnet dice for those, but they almost never make a difference at all. Yellow has easily got the biggest pile of “does nothing” charms I’ve ever seen.

>>720373705
The Abyss is fine as long as you don't mess with it. Void has no mind, so no ambition or cruelty. It just lashes out at things with SOUL. King knew that with his long experiments with it. Others are only finding out just how unpredictable it is and that it isn't something you can just summon and command. The Steel Soul tribe seems to know a lot about it though. Their Masters probably made these artificial beings to combat the Void.

>>720373854
No, he'll eventually escape on his own

>>720374127
Oh I see, so you can speed run by immediately running back the way you came a couple times to make times more consistent

>>720372206
I really like the witch crest but the odd heal I haaaate.

Same with beast. Those movesets are cool, heal is too integral a tool to be messed with. If I could use a charm to make it normal I would.

>>720374168
Bro your compass?

>>720373486
There are 3 pieces total and they are used for another purpose

>>720374193
No, has to be a different exit, not the entrance to the room

>>720374168
No
Not really but the dice can be a decent crutch if you're lucky

>>720373845
>the bugs just need ore
Where? Who sells them?

Cogflies need to be nerfed.

>>720374259
Weird. Might as well just let it be full rng, that's such a janky thing to patch in

TROBBIO!

>>720374168
Theifs mark is busted. It doesn't give you more beads, only makes you lose them when hit.

>>720374339
Iirc the first shrine will sell one eventually then you have to find the rest

Why the fuck does Karmelita's contact damage do only 1 damage but Lost Lace does 2 when she doesn't have a fat ass

Pharloom could have become a paradise where everyone is equal via void but Hornet had to ruin it

>>720374389
It absolutely does, you're thinking of the scraper tool

>>720371303
i beat it in three tries because it is very clearly designed to have the double jump for it

>>720374226
>he can’t read the map without compass

>>720374389
You're thinking of the other one

That's it I had enough of stupid runbacks
I'm now using a cheat table to give myself invulnerability and noclip and infinite jump to run back to challenges.

>>720374428
My bad dawg

is there enough ore to build everything that requires it?

act 3 is so freaking cool i feel bad that some people will uninstall after beating the boss and miss it

>>720374494
Yes. Nothing is missable.
Except for the maplady and zazabart duels.

>>720374448
I can but I shouldn't have to. Make your map functional from the start instead of being different for the sake of being different

>>720374448
I can, I just don't want to. Saves me precious seconds to recognize where I am, precisely.

>>720374494
Yup

>>720374468
just use the stakes of marika mod or a similar one that spawns you in on the screen you died on.

>>720374558
There's also the broken gun which has 3 mutually exclusive rewards

>>720374389
Snitch pick is broken, Thief’s Mark works. Maybe I haven’t hit the “must farm” roadblock yet that people are talking about, but I have been rolling in beads for most of act 2, those citadel bugs are loaded and Mark gives like +50% or something. A Grand Reed drops like 45 beads and takes about 10 seconds to kill for example.

>>720374415
Lace has cooties (void)

>>720374576
Oh there are mods for that? I'll check them out.

>character loudly and proudly declares ZANZIBAUUUU multiple times
>apologizes after you mortally wound him.
>Zanzibau
>forgive me...

what did teamcherry mean by this?

>>720374618
Also the heart memento can change depending on which hearts you deliver first.

just started the game (the frist one)
when does it get good? Like seriosly, one hour wasted just to explore the first area and kill the first boss and i'm already tired of this slow movement and pressing x. Action games are so much entertaining holy shit

>>720374618
Do you mean the broken one you get in Atla? I know about getting the deep dive lady to fix it but what are the other ones?

>>720374801
You have fried your serotonin receptors through short format entertainment.
Go to rehab and try again.

>phantom fight
holy kino that was like a casual form of the second sentinel fight but the atmosphere and that ending made it memorable

>>720374801
Get the dash in greenpath and see how you feel, I forgive you for still not liking

>>720374801
This is what fortnite battle pass horse gacha does to a man

>>720374494
yea

>>720374350
nah they're a late game thing anyway so it's fine that they're broken

>>720374801
just fuck off

>>720374957
>>720374957
>>720374957

>>720375012
are you mad? I dont give a fuck sorry

>>720373689
Cheese her with poisoned tacks

multibinder is good and I'm tired of people pretending otherwise
if you're using a proper gap in enemy attacks you're never getting hit using it, it's not hard, you do it for normal heals

>>720374801
>one hour wasted
how slow are you? anyway hollow knight doesn't really get good until you get wall cling and dash just like silksong doesn't really get good until you get grapple and double jump

>>720374874
Did you not do mist until act 3 or something?

>>720372284
Shitters won't beat Lost Lace without cheating. Ever.
If someone like me takes a bunch of attempts you can forget about the shitters.
Tacks should be nerfed though. They trivialize a bunch of fights that were designed with challenge in mind.

I AM FUCKING DYING TO CONTACT DAMGE
NOT ANYTHING SHE FUCKING THOROWS AT ME
BUT JUST RUNNING INTO HER BECAUSE SHE POPS UP OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE WHEN TRYING TO DODGE BOTH PILLAR + PROJECTILE SPAM
WHO FUCKING DESIGNED THIS FAGGOT FIGHT

>>720375238
I haven't even seen the act 3 screen at all and yes I've been avoiding bilewater and the mist until now

>>720375216
>how slow are you?
>whoops a dead end
>whoops a dead end
>whoops a dead end
>this is an access to antner area? I'm not paying 50 coins yet until I explore everything
>the final boss
>whoops a dead end
>whoops a dead end
>whoops a dead end
>guess I'm paying for the next are
>it's actually an elevator to go to the first town
>...
>whoops a dead end
>finally the next area, which is green apparently
and this is my experience so far, and yes I bouth the map and the compass a long time ago

>>720375396
me. i thought it was funny

>>720375397
Huh I didn't realise you could fight second sentinel in act 2

>>720371981
Bilewater has one of the best tracks and it's very funny that it does

>>720372862
Nigga I beat the game and reached the surface with beast. What are you talking about, it's just another moveset.

>>720371981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyFIQ3crD6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp8xVVwsfoc

It's got less overall juice than the first but I personally think it's peaks are way higher.

>>720372319
I feel the same way. Never cared for the music in the souls games outside of two tracks and the same goes for HK

>>720375086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7AmT_p8Pcc
holy kino

>>720373026
>pale oil
>pain

lol lmao

>>720374168
What did awakening it even do?

>first sinner
holy kino that was the best boss fight so far. How did the same cunts who designed that come up with Groal

>>720376197
Gives it a focus mode. If you get 4 hits without being hit yourself then until you next take damage or rest you have a damage buff.
This buff has a second level which needs more hits again and buffs you even further when the crest is awoken twice.
It's hunters way of keeping it's damage consistant with other crests in the late game when it's gotta compare with boosted Wandering crits using the dice, spamming and repairing tools in the field with Alchemist, and lol lmao with beast and reaper.

I reached the act 2 place and I see the oil to upgrade my weapon. how do i get it> i assume it is with the mechanism that rotates the hallway but I don't know how to get to the other side

>>720376813
go find a way there then

>get grapple
>realize I forgot to mark every point on the map where I needed the grapple
it's so fucking over for me