Thread 720371630

>165Hz VRR 8" OLED display
>Z2 Extreme APU
>32GB system memory
>detachable Joycons with hall effect sticks and triggers
>trackpad and mouse mode with adjustable DPI 200-10,000
>native Windows and SteamOS support

Why the fuck would you buy anything else?

>>720371630 (OP)
>uh what if we took a handheld and made it obscenely large and with dogshit battery life for 1.5x the price of a normal computer?
if you buy this you're actually retarded

Because I already own a very powerful PC and I don't want to play demanding games on a fucking handheld because that'll just be a completely inferior version.
OLED Steam Deck is cheaper and allows me to emulate very well and play indies with low requirements at max settings.

>>720371775
If you buy a steam Deck, you are poor AND retarded.

>>720371775
>obscenely large
It's literally the same footprint as the Steam Deck(1 is pictured here, the 2 is slightly smaller)
>dogshit battery life
Applicable for the 1, but the 2 has a bigger battery and more than a 100% performance boost at 18W TDP. At that power it's significantly faster than the Deck at full throttle and gets 4 hours of screen on time for AAA games

>>720371979
forgot image

>>720371630 (OP)
no dual trackpad no buy

for me, it's waiting for the strix halo handhelds.

>>720372032
Deck is also obscenely large

>>720371630 (OP)
it costs the same as a new car

>>720373391
Well what are you gaming on in 2025, a DS Lite?

cut the price by $100 and ship it without an os
fuck the windows licence bullshit

>just spend $2k on 30% faster, 40% larger and heavier 40W UMPC
No.
>b-but the 165hz refresh rate-
Will never be used on this performance level.

>>720373446
A thor soon

>>720373835
>Android
Just get joy cons for your phone, no? Odds are it's more powerful and has a better screen

>>720372032
>same footprint
You should get your eyes checked.

>>720374493
My phone is old, and has only one screen

>>720371630 (OP)
>here's your poorfag tier gaming performance bro that'll be $1200

Or you could have 128gb of ram and NO battery

>>720376170
>we put a 120w Strix Halo in a haldheld just because
Based. Apparently at 30w it has insanely high performance compared to everything currently out there, even shits on discrete GPUs.

>>720376170
>external battery
Honestly I don't hate it, it's not like you're taking these bricks anywhere on your coat pocket anyway, might as well uncap the performance

>>720372145
Enjoy your 10 lb battery pack

>>720376828
my body is ready

>>720371630 (OP)
>$1350

Yikes.

i love how amd is dominating

>>720371630 (OP)
do I look like I care about 165hz vrr z2 dpi 200-10,1000 on a handheld I just want god dang a steamdeck 2 around the same 500 bucks price point

>>720377616
deck 2 will be ps6 launch at ps6 price

>>720371630 (OP)
>weighs like 20lbs
>costs its weight in gold
>performance gains are only marginally better than the z1e

>>720377616
It still wont run ue5 games.

What good is putting a high refresh rate screen in a system that will be lucky to even break 60fps with frame gen on?

>>720379179
You can browse the web so fucking smooth

>>720378538
>performance gains are only marginally better than the z1e
This is the real issue with these handhelds. You don't start seeing meaningful increase on these newer chips over Z1E until you get into the 60W+ range which these systems can't handle

>>720371630 (OP)
Where do you discuss handheld pc's like this or get news on them?
Is there a thread somewhere? I feel like I'm unaware of what anyone's been cooking since the deck
>>720376170
That looks crazy strong, will it actually be?

>>720379418
If you give that Ryzen AI Max 395 70w you get 16 Zen CPU cores nearly comparable to a desktop CPU and the IGP on that bitch is comparable to a desktop RTX 4060 or 4070 depending on the metric. Downclocked for power and thermals its still the most efficient thing out there which is insane. AMD made an entire new interconnect just for this one SKU and they might not even continue it in the future.

>>720376170
When people talk about external battery, im picturing some shitty backpack or fanny pack thing. Its basically like one of those clip on things that gameboys used to have.

>>720373391
Yeah, my deck.

>>720376371
Right? Just stick a power station in your backpack and be done with it.

>>720376170
>>720376306
I'm waiting for when more reputable brands to release their versions of handhelds with the max+ 395. If the fucking LeGo2 with Z2E is already around $1300 and the purported price of 395+ handhelds is around $1500, you'd be only spending an extra $200 for a like +150% performance boost.

>>720379418
>Where do you discuss handheld pc's like this or get news on them?
>Is there a thread somewhere? I feel like I'm unaware of what anyone's been cooking since the deck
I just get shit recommended to me on YouTube nonstop, I don't even own a handheld but I like to keep up with the hardware news

>>720379880
>4070
You're stretching it
With enough power it's comparable to a laptop 4060, which is WAY more powerful than people who haven't used it probably assume, but it's still nowhere near a desktop 4070

>>720371630 (OP)
I can't justify that price for a handheld desu. Paying that much for mediocre performance that lasts 20 minutes just isn't worth it for me just because I can experience it on the toilet.

>>720371630 (OP)
When is this thing coming out? I held on buying the first because it was supposedly around the corner

>>720380132
I dont mind it, it isn't nearly as gaudy as it could be. But no power hotswap is retarded. Apparently if you are on power and the battery isnt plugged in you have to fully restart the device to detect it.

>>720382360
October.

>>720371630 (OP)
I own a Legion Go S (the original) and it's actually pretty sick
Got it on sale for like $600

>>720371630 (OP)
bcuz
>I have a very strong preference for d-pad top control layout since I primarily play 2D games
>detachable controls fucking suck
>too big and heavy
>no front-firing speakers. hell they're not even down-firing, they're on the top of the fucking unit
it still doesn't satisfy my preference for d-pad on top, but I'd MUCH rather have the Go S with this chip in it. Superior ergos, size, weight, controls properly built into the unified shell, and speakers actually aimed towards the player.
>>720372032
>>720371979
Brother I love my OLED Deck, but it's already too fucking big, and you can clearly see in your image the Go is even bigger. The even bigger problem is it's over 200g heavier, and again, the OLED Deck is already too heavy.

>>720371630 (OP)
Anything else that doesn't sound like a hair dryer when I use it.

>>720371630 (OP)
>lelnovo
found the problem

>>720371630 (OP)
Thanks but I have a Steam Deck

>>720371630 (OP)
>valve tries to sneakily put a lid on the endless specswank in pc space by introducing a deliberately underpowered budget-ish handheld with just one power level, to force gamedevs to optimize their shit by giving them a solid, desirable target to aim towards, and not just nebulous "should run on potatoes"
>retards from big manufacturers pull it back into specswank, usually disregarding power consumption, thermals, price and portability
God fucking damnit.

>>720385191
"high spec" PCs, as in anything exceeding a XX60 card from the last generation, make up a tiny percentage of the PC userbase as seen in the Steam hardware surveys. The reason why some big budget games don't target the median PC isn't because they're targeting high spec PCs, it's because they're targeting consoles

>>720371630 (OP)
>Two times the price of the Steam Deck when the entire point of these things is more of an emulation and backlog machine, not a modern day AAA playing machine.
>No trackpads.
>Look at those ergonomics dear lord.
Why the hell would I want it?

>>720379359
Pussy

>>720371630 (OP)
The zflow 13 has double the performance

>>720385730
>No trackpads
Are you blind

>>720381813
No. At full power limit it is flat out comparable to a mobile 4070 while consuming drastically less power.

>>720385903
It has one small one only on one side, I'm talking about two and bigger ones that are also natively implemented by the OS itself.

>>720386142
>that are also natively implemented by the OS itself.
Trackpads aren't natively integrated into SteamOS?

>>720385476
It's not just big budget games, lots of indies also fail to optimize for the median PC audience, not out of malice or anything, they just don't have a target. "It runs on my old laptop" can hit different depending on your laptop, but "it runs on Deck" is both a good benchmark to strive towards and a checkmark you can apply for to get more sales from people browsing the "it runs on Deck" list.

>>720386210
>to get more sales from people browsing the "it runs on Deck" list.
I don't think that even shows up for people who don't have a Deck dude, I've never seen a list or a "Deck verified" seal on any game on the Steam store

>>720386209
It should be doing it natively, but the Legion Go implementation for SteamOS is newer so most community bindings would not work for games that support them since they'd need to be tailored toward it specifically. It's going to take time to be updated for that specific way to play it.

>>720386351
It does.
It used to be in a more prominent spot too but now you gotta scroll down a bit.

>>720371630 (OP)
>$1350
Yeah, I'll just get a Steam Deck or wait on the actual generational leap, the Steam Deck 2 over this at affordable prices.