Thread 720371849

>5090
>4K DLSS Performance (1080p render resolution)
>4x Frame Gen
>only 64 real frames

Fuck this industry

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/borderlands-4-dlss-4-multi-frame-generation-nvidia-reflex/

Another day, another banger from Timmy's engine.

>>720371849 (OP)
Damn...anyway back to what I was doing

Randy promised a day-1 PC performance patch. It'll be BADASS

Holy fucking shit
But why would I even play it?

Uhhh
DLSS and MFG still take resources right?
So what's the ACTUAL framerates when they're off?
Guessing you can't afford one and can't tell me

Okay but what cpu is being used. Games are cpu heavy now too

>>720371849 (OP)
And people say that games these days are optimized and people are coping with shit builds.....

I guess it's better to simply not play anything released after 2022, since the number of games that run like shit have increased a lot lately

>>720371849 (OP)
patches will surely fix it and make it run silk smooth. just need to wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLOA_F-H3QI

>>720372158
>he can't read
mong

>>720371890
Why does that dog look like him?

>>720372185
Most of them are using UE5 too. But there are exceptions such as monster hunter wilds which also run like shit.

whats the target audience of a bait thread where people whine about frame gen being thing nvidia uses in their slides since they sell gpus with frame gen

>>720371849 (OP)
you do know that 4x framegen 256 fps doesn't mean there are only 64 fps in native? have you been living in a cave for the past 6 years?

>>720371849 (OP)
are they using founders edition cards or is it the fucking $6000 top tier oc models?

>>720371849 (OP)
Don't care I'm still having a blast. Have you tried not being poor?

>>720372393
No anon, you don't understand, the fastest gaming CPU on the market just isn't fast enough for Randy's BADASS open world UE5 game.

Why do they keep using UE5 don't get it. Should have kept using baked lighting and old rendering techniques so we could have nice looking sharp images at half the cost

>>720372757
The entire push for Unreal Engine/Unity in general is to cut down costs for the developer/publisher. Look at Sony. Concord was made on UE5 because if it was made on anything else it would have been an even more expensive disaster.

>>720372185
Because most devs now use UE5.
It’s such a shitty engine that wastes resources during runtime so devs don’t have to bother with LOD or actually doing any work.
And gamers let them get away with their greedy laziness.

Don’t buy UE5 games, ever.

>>720371907
it's kinda amazing how multiplayer shooters peaked during my childhood and then started declining to the point most of them are barely playable

>>720372757
Supposedly it saves a lot of dev time. In practice games have never taken this long to develop, so there's two solutions:
-it's to lower the barrier of entry to hire cheaper workforce
-it's to up requirement for PC parts so people keep consooming the latest Novidya GPU

>>720372671
It literally means just that.

>>720372814
>>720372945
It's pretty much the mark that your studio cannot retain talent at all and has a huge long term management problem. Microsoft had to cancel Perfect Dark because the studio behind it took 7 years to make a gay UE5 demo that failed two pitches with Microsoft and Take Two.

>>720372814
>>720372945
Then why not just use unreal 4 which at least works and looks better? Outsourcing half the game to a jeet farm isn't a very smart solution

>>720371849 (OP)
Get a better pc poorscum
>B..but 5090 is the best in the market
Order a custom one retard

>>720372537
At least MH: Wilds has the excuse of running on an engine that wasn't designed for and can't handle open world. UE5 presents itself as the cutting edge champion game engine of the industry. It's mind blowing how ubiquitous it is, how many resources there are for it, how many veteran devs have been working with UE since UE3 and yet not a single studio is capable of producing a game that both runs well and looks good.

>>720373118
They use UE4 as well. Stellar Blade was UE4. Returnal was UE4. The devs mainly sticking with UE4 are the ones who intend to make mobile/switch/ps4 games in 2025 since their install base is still fuck huge.

>>720371849 (OP)
If you can't get 200+ FPS stable @ native with a 5090 in a first person shooter, the game is unplayable dogshit

>>720373057
that would mean the graphics card is able to generate 3 frames for every real frame without diverting any of its processing power as compared to generating native frames only. You see how a 5 year old could work out how you're wrong? 256fps on 4x framegen will end up being ~80fps native for these reasons.

>>720371849 (OP)
>Max
How about high?

>>720371849 (OP)
>Max setting
Always a joke

>>720373284
>>720373260
There's very little difference between max and high in UE5 games since both tend to use lumen + nanite.

>>720373260
>>720373284
+5 fps at most? the game forces raytracing at all times and not the good kind like doom returnal. that game has raytracing and amd gpus still get like 200+ fps.

>>720371849 (OP)
Another thread where /v/ drones mald like children.

>>720371849 (OP)
>Fuck this industry
Here's an idea.
Stop playing video games.
Touch grass.
GROW UP.

Yea and some assassin's creed game didn't run even 60 fps max settings with sli gtx titans 10 or so years ago.
it's normal that newest games don't run 500fps. they target lower fps. if you want more fps then lower graphic settings or wait until it's old game and there's new hardware available

>>720373445
that assassins creed game was api bottlenecked which was solved with dx12 ports / dxvk.

>>720371849 (OP)
What does the graphics look like?

>>720371849 (OP)
Oh no if only there were 20 other Borderlands games that all play and look the same

>>720373484
like borderlands 3. a ue4 game.

>>720373226
NTA but by my understanding this is true on contemporary gpus as all the framegen work is offloaded to tensor cores which are *not* doing the actual upfront rendering save for raytrace slop

>>720373445
Retarded post.

>>720373118
>Then why not just use unreal 4
They do lol. For every UE5 game there's like a dozen UE4 games.

>pajeets enters the gaming industry
>the art of optimization is gone
we have several times more powerful hardware and yet games looks only slightly better than games we had 10 years ago while requiring fake frames and shiiiiet, literally how, it can't be just unreal slop

>>720373226
Yes, of course there is frame gen overhead.
What l meant was once you enable it, the native frames are just a quarter at 4X.

jensen giveth path tracing

jensen taketh non blurry games and my game fps cut in half

someone kil that guy

>>720373641
on rtx 5000 series gpus the framegen is done on the display controller so no overhead.
on every gpu below this including amd they do the framegen on the shader units which take up work.

>>720373360
>Doom returnal
Doom Eternal added ray tracing way after launch and it was very light amount of rt reflections, that's it.
Doom the slop ages however? That forces ray tracing and it's considerably heavier as a game. But it manages to at least have no stutters in my experience.

>>720373912
meant to say dark ages
>forces raytracing at all times

>>720373808
For a cartoony looking game no less.
It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

It looks exactly the same as Borderlands 3 but somehow it runs 100 times worse?

Worst thing about the UE5 backlash is people now pretending UE4 was good lmao

>>720371849 (OP)
Man it's so irritating how shit the talent is in gaming now. All this extra computing power only so DEI devs can cut corners on optimization instead of pushing us into a new era of gaming.

>>720371849 (OP)
>>720371890
What causes this level of derangement in the Valve drones? I'm sure outright lying in the OP on an anonymous imageboard will make developers stop using UE.

By the way, it's 4k not 1080p and 256 frames with 4x framegen does not mean 64 frames without it.

>>720371849 (OP)
BAD ASS

>rtx was sold to goysoomers as next level graphics
>what it actually ended up being used for was replacing baked light, cutting a lot of labor cost from gamedev
>...at the cost of making games run like dogshit, looking no better, and requiring a 1k usd GPU

>>720371849 (OP)
DLSS PERFORMANCE MODE AND 4X FRAME GEN!??!!?!!? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
GUARANTEED LOOKS LIKE BLURRY SOUP HOLY FUCK KILL YOURSELF NVIDIA

>>720374164
They've been in complete meltdown mode ever since they spent months and hundreds of threads laughing that Tim was going to get BTFO by Apple in court, only for him to BTFO Apple and Google. The kind of butthurt that causes doesn't simply go away.

>>720374057
UE has been shit since UE3.
I remember how terrible the texture streaming was in some games that were built on UE3. It was a huge step back in terms of graphical fidelity.

>>720374253
>>720371849 (OP)
in non marketing speech, this actually means 5090, running at 1080p, gettting around 75 fps (4x framegen isn't actually 4x, its a bit less, i used 3.5x)

5080 around 45, in a game that looks like fortnite.

>>720374164
It’s not native 4K you absolute retard.
It’s upscaled, blurry DLSS slop, running at 1080p on chip.

>>720374164
there's not a single mention of valve or steam in this thread
imagine arguing someone else is deranged only to show off how much of a projection it is with your cute little wojak there

It’s all one big conspiracy to keep games running like shit so people go out and spend money on new cards

>>720371849 (OP)
>4k dlss performance
>1080p
that's not how that fucks retard

>>720371849 (OP)
>256fps
Looks pretty good to me.

>>720373153
This, so much this. Rajesh and Pooja put their heart and soul into filling the game code with spaghetti, the least you can do is spend $300000 getting NASA to build a specialized room size PC with subzero cooling to play their game.

My cope is that you can put the game in medium and it will probably look the same.

>>720374164
>>720374256
Good morning saar! Sorry that Fortnite is a dead game.

Isn't it supposed to be out now?

>>720372479
He could be some kind of Animorph

>>720371849 (OP)
>4K DLSS Performance (1080p render resolution)
perf isn't 1/4 retard

>>720375094
Good on them. That's a smart decision.

>>720371849 (OP)
>average fps
how bad does it get in actual gunfights?
do the guns still vomit trails and rainbow explosions with every bullet?

>>720372537
>Most of them are using UE5 too.
Lot of big UE5 releases have performance issues. SH2 Remake pretty much forces everyone to use DLSS even with good computers. The game runs like absolute ass without it regardless of your rig.

i wouldnt play this even if it was free anyway

>>720374827
>>720375040
Are you genuinely retarded or just shills?

DLSS' built in stats literally show you the actual render resolution

>>720375094
>Make Kate star as Lilith instead of Moxxi
>Tiny Tina is now the promised messiah that saves the world.
Even without Eli Roth fucking up the cinematography and editing, the script was ass and casting choices terrible. Blanchett can do a GILF role like MCU movies showed but she can't do a young woman roles anymore.

>>720375457
PERFORMANCE mode isn't 1/4

>>720375529
It literally is, you fucking retard. Were you born yesterday?

50% resolution scale, which means 50% resolution on each axis, which means 25% of all the pixels

>>720374164
>>720374827
>>720375040
>>720375529
DLSS Performance is 50% on each axis, which is 25% of native. So yes, it's 1080p when playing at 4k.

CP2077 with goy tracing maxed out runs worse. Seems to be pretty much the standard for this gen.

>>720375942
The quality of DLSS 4 at 4k/performance is pretty impressive, all things considered. These TAA games all look worse at native than with DLSS.

frame gen isn't a perfect performance multiplier. real fps is probably closer to 90.

>>720377014
just do 165fps divided by 3 or 4. thats the real fps.

Damn AMPOORS are turbo mad again.

>>720377225
ampere was five years ago bro

>>720377378
>he thinks that is what it means

>>720371849 (OP)
So turn on frame gen what's the problem?

>>720373679
What kind of optimization era you're talking about? You're delusional if you think it was better in the past.
I bought Geforce 7600 GT in 2006 when it came out. Just one year later Crysis was released. I was getting 30 fps on 1024x768 on low/medium settings. You might try to say that Crysis just tried to push the graphics to its limits. In reality on low/medium it looked WORSE than Far Cry from 2004. For one good-looking and well-optimized game (for example Devil May Cry 4) we were getting dozens of poorly running games (fucking Oblivion).

The issue is GPU prices. Less than a decade ago people could deal with shitty optimization by buying mid-high GPU for $300-400. Now you need to pay $1000 for 5800. That's way above the inflation rate.

I have a 4080 with an 11600, and I'm downloading the game right now.
I'll put it on 1080p on high with no dlss and tell you guys how the first few sections are performing.

>>720378514
just keep an eye on hours played, anon

>>720371849 (OP)
Isn't frame gen really bad? I only used it in Hitman as it was turned on by default "optimized" settings and it was just a stuttering mess. Turning it off gave me a fluent experience though

>>720372158
>Games are cpu heavy now too
no they're not. they're optimized for console and switch 2 processors. and frame generation. besides: learn to read

>>720371849 (OP)
Why didn't they just stick with their fork of UE4 that they used for Borderlands 3? Its not like the graphical fidelity actually increased at all due to the artstyle.

>>720374057
As long as you don't try and make open world slop UE4 was pretty solid.

>>720379170
The problem is that PS5 and SeX/S have decent CPUs.
It's not like 8th gen, where i3 was enough to outperform PS4

Can someone test if Creamapi works? i'm not paying over $100 for pre-ordered DLC

>>720379170
Have you not seen benchmarks of any UE5 games? They are often heavily CPU bottlenecked.

>>720371849 (OP)
nortubel has better performance

>>720371849 (OP)
but why - it looks identical to 3 lmao

>>720379643
yes it works for all unreal engine slop games unless its live service game like marvel rivals (the dlc checks are server sided)

he won

Any chance of having comortable 30 fps on my 2060 and 5600x for 1080p?

>>720380298
The minimum requirements are
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 / AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT / Intel Arc A580
And those min requirements are always crafted with DLSS 1080p 30fps in mind. There's no way you will be able to play it.

>>720380298
720p, yeah.

>>720371849 (OP)
you don't need more than locked 30fps to enjoy any game (except for racing and competitive shooters)
this is a FACT that PCfags just ignore because they must justify their purchases.

in comparison

battlefield 6 works like a charm

>>720380758
you don't need a car that goes faster than 10mph to drive somewhere but it sure as hell is better when you're going a 100mph

>>720371849 (OP)
Ok and what is the hz of the monitor they used 4x frame gen on. I have a 360 hz monitor and 4x fg will cap real frames at 82 because reflex caps total fps to 328.

>>720372856
multiplayer shooters back then
>all about fun, gameplay and experimentation

now
>all about how many cosmetics the publisher can sell

no EGS exclusive like BL3?

>>720380973
that is correct, but I wouldn't call a car that runs at 50mph unusable.

>>720371849 (OP)
>unreal engine 5 and denuvo on the same game
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP, what other cancer will they invent next to just fuck performance for no reason

Borderlands 3 couldn't even run properly at 20 fps with minimum recommended hardware.
B4 is obviously going to be worse.

>>720381404
While not unusable you wouldn't go back to it if you could travel at 3x the speed

For some reason i got all the super deluxe items even tough i bought the base game anyone had this happen to him too?

>>720381839
Ask your wife's boyfriend what edition did he buy with you credit card.

>>720371849 (OP)
Is using DLSS4 really that bad? I mostly play indie or boomer shit hence why I'm still on a 10-series.

>>720371849 (OP)
If it runs like shit on rtx 5090 it runs like shit on everything. Companies are so dumb to keep doing this

>>720381935
retards use it without needing it and wonder why their games run like shit

>>720381935
If 5090 really NEEDS DLSS, then imagine how poorly it runs on anything that's few years old

Anyone with a 3060 can tell me how bad is the performance?

>>720382359
Sub 20 fps on 1080p low.Stuttering ahoy as well.

>>720382118
this holy shit

>stuttering with a 9800X3D and 5080
this game needed another few months for optimization, this is unplayable even at 1440P on medium settings

>>720382441
lmao wtf, it literally looks like borderlands 3

>>720382441
blindnigga here, does the game look like a big improvement compared to BL3?

>>720374164
>and 256 frames with 4x framegen does not mean 64 frames without it.
Yes it does retard

>>720382441
But isnt BL4 like cel shading or something, why does it run like shit?

>>720381839
key site?

>>720382925
Jeet code and UE5 is a bad engine

>>720382623
>ue 5
its never gonna happen anon
randy is just gonna tweet
>told you so

>>720382623
its so sad to see games stutter on this type of hardware. this is literally almost one of the best hardware in the world that you can buy. it would be like a supercomputer struggling to run crysis.

>>720383042
>>720382623
Remember the star wars games

>>720371849 (OP)
stop buying AAA games, retards. its literally that easy.

How does it run on consoles? 30 or 60fps?

>not a single seller has a good deal on this
Maybe I should take this as a sign

>>720382912
only under a cpu bottleneck
realistically it's more like 3.5x

>>720382768
Actually worse, more shit onscreen making visual clarity even worse.
>>720382894
Not really, it looks better but only slightly.
>>720382925
You can make a 2d cell shaded game in ue5 that will burn out a 5090.

>>720371849 (OP)
They want people to actually PLAY the game right? Like what's the point in making something the whole time knowing nobody can actually play it? What am I missing?

>>720383580
no
they want you to pay for it

>>720383580
>They want people to actually PLAY the game right?
Nope, the plan is to make games only for the rich. Middle and poor class are not wanted.

>>720371849 (OP)
>poorfag seethe thread

>>720383580
They expect people to accept 30 fps to save up on costs.

Capcom is already blaming PS5 for Wilds sales, despite the fact it runs and looks like shit

>>720371849 (OP)
damn, good thing its a cartoon game and i can turn down/off a bunch of settings without actually changing anything, lol.

>>720382987
Bought it directly from steam and i'm sure i didn't use creamapi.

>>720383771
What do you mean "poorfag"? If the game runs like shit on even THE strongest card, how are we supposed to buy up from there?

>>720384101
>he doesn't buy the strongest hardware on earth to ensure locked 60 fps at 720p
shiggy diggy

>>720374164
Probably the same thing that makes you rush to the defense of a mega-corporation completely for free lmao.

>>720383580
I think it's more like they want to release it in fall because that's the most optimal sales window for vidya and if they delayed it to iron out the performance problems they'd have to either wait an entire year to release the game so they can release it in fall or release it during a less optimal time like spring or summer

>>720381839
Yes. I got all of them, lmao.

So is the 8 core requirement thing bullshit or not? Seems stupid my 7600x won't even be able to run the game.

>>720371849 (OP)
The frame gen shit was really just a way to inflate FPS numbers in marketing bullshit for the drooling retard masses who don't know what a frametime is.

Any "reviewer" who uses framegen framerates immediately outs themselves as a bought and paid advertising shill for nvidia.

This company deserves billions of dollars in penalties for anti-competitive actions, monopolistic practices, and false advertising. Their company should be broken up and the executives from mid-level up, as well as the board of directors, all put in prison.

>>720371849 (OP)
i can tolerate framegen in third person games but in fps due to the perspective you have to move the camera much more making fg somewhat be your enemy

>300 fps
AWAWOWOWOOOW!

>>720384649
>indian

>>720384649
is Arjay who coded this heap of shit?

>>720384075
SR?

>>720374164
mods, kill this man

>>720371849 (OP)
>Paying all that money just to need upscaling and added input lag to hit acceptable frames

>>720384726
>>720384690
>>720384649
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE VAULT

>>720384827
DLSS framegen reduces delay retard
You 970jeets are pathetic

>>720384882
dlss does by lowering the resolution and decreasing the load
framegen doesn't

>>720384649
how

>>720384882
I forgot to mention denuvo and graphics that look marginally better at best. Shills really crack me up

THIS GAME ALSO FEELS LIKE IT NEEDS FRAME GEN ON TO BE SMOOTH WHICH I THINK IS KINDA STUPID

-NoStartupMovies
r.volumetricfog 0
r.fog=0

>>720384882
not really. feels wise 4x fg adds like 10% more heavyness

Not defending a shitty ass UE5 pitchfordslop game but the upscaling method of DLSS actually costs performance, not improve it. Especially moreseo with the transformer model. So 1080p native still runs notably better than DLSS with 1080p render resolution (like 4K performance).
It's not just a little bit, either. There are games I can run fine at 1440p native but not 4K balanced mode.

>>720384101
4k performance max settings at only 60ish fps is basically standard for ue5

>>720371849 (OP)
Bullshit post.
>barely 60 fps
64fps average is not barely 60fps
>frame gen x4 dlss performance
Frame gen has a decent overhead, especially at 4k, and upscaling a 1080p image to 4k with dlss is going to be slower than rendering at native 1080p. You're probably looking at somewhere around 90fps at 1080p native with no DLSS or frame gen.

I'm not defending it, it's still dog shit performance for the best consumer card on the market at 1080p, you don't have to muddy the water with reactionary nonsense posts.

I use lossless scaling and have never noticed input lag, and I play a lot of fast games.
Maybe I'm just lucky

>>720385610
transformel model is a godsend

>>720374863
this

Performance is good though?

>>720385845
that's frame generation included retard
real framerate is 100 on the 5090

Show it in motion with upscaling + framegen

>>720385814
Yeah it's worth the performance loss. There's still some ghosting and artifacts on distant small objects and some foliage, but the full screen blur DLSS used to have is completely eliminated. It really did replace TAA.

>>720385989
Sounds good for a new game on max settings
>>720386020
DLSS 4 isn't like fsr or lossless, it actually holds up in motion

>>720385845
>1080p
>DLSS upscaling on

>>720379178
so gamers have to buy the latest, most powerful card available just to run the game

>>720386143
Even FSR frame gen is decent and comparable to DLSS 2X frame gen. It's just when there's FSR upscaling that it shits the bed.

>>720386143
no, that's garbage performance for a game that looks like this

>>720386143
why lie

what is stopping developers from just using UE4? High end UE4 games look just as good as modern slop in UE5 sans the egregious blur, fog, and performance issues

>>720382623
you can't "optimize" UE5 unless you make your game look like mobileslop, it's funny seeing timmy seethe that people just don't know how to use his shit engine, sorry timmy, but if you get kicked out of 109 countries then maybe it's a you problem

>>720385845
>DLSS on when the target resolution is 1080p
If you need DLSS for 1080p, something has gone horribly wrong

Hows pc performance for those that played it

>>720386551
SH2 on max is probably pretty close to the overall performance profile.
Stuttering doesn't seem bad though

>>720372757
its not UE5 directly, its a correlation. The causation is these game devs outsource the brunt of their work to studios in shithole countries who make simple models with hundreds of thousands of triangles and don't optimize them or even attempt to. They think a 17 thousand triangle box is a job well done rather than 16 triangle box. Than the product comes back to the main branch and they DONT EVEN ATTEMPT to check integers because they run all their shit on server farms that can brute force even the shittiest optimized game

>>720371849 (OP)
stunning and badass

>>720386296
>FSR 2.1
what is this 2022?

>>720378514
alright, it seems fine. I actually left the settings on max(badass) and turned off motion blur. I hover around 60-70 with one combat section dropping to 50 when I entered. it's still just 1080p which is gay.
I turned it to 4k in the main menu and it was already 20 fps, so it probably would be awful in gameplay.

>>720386143
double wrong what a dumb retard

>>720386936
define "fine"

>>720387023
NTA, but read the next sentence. That's his definition of fine

>>720371849 (OP)
The last 3 borderlands games ran like SHIT. Im not falling for it again

>>720384882
range ban india

>>720385845
>Multi Frame Gen 4X and DLSS Super-Res Quality Mode

>>720384819
>MOOOOOOODS
Not to mention who the fuck posts without a VPN in this place nowadays?

>>720387217
>Not to mention who the fuck posts without a VPN in this place nowadays?
imagine being brit*sh

>>720387217
>relaying all your browsing data to a v(((p)))n server
lmaoing

>>720386781
so thats why the villain its a dogshit nigger obsessed with triangles?

good that means it will run well on a ps5

>>720373118
UE5 has lumen which means devs don't need to do any work on lighting and nanite which means devs don't need to work on textures :)

>>720371849 (OP)
So a PS5 performs about like how a 5090 does.

>>720378182
games didn't stutter back then

>>720373679
Why the fuck do people boil Crabs alive? I don't understand it

>>720387217
>Not to mention who the fuck posts without a VPN in this place nowadays?
I'm pretty sure that's against the rules

>>720372158
SAAR I CANNOT INTO THE READ OF ENGLISH WHAT IS DA CPU?

>>720387668
Because they're too retarded to learn how to properly, humanely kill the crab/lobster without triggering a release of chemicals that makes the meat taste like shit. It's not even that hard, you just have to jam a knife in a specific spot.

>>720371890
Why are devs so bad at using UE5 compared to literally any other engine? Why do they refuse to learn how to use it properly? Why are programmers so overwhelmingly committed to being obtuse and incompetent in the faultless face of Tim's perfect, easy to use and powerfully efficient development engine?

>>720387598
ok how does it run on a ps5?

>>720386296
DLAA is actually fucked in Hogwarts legacy. For some reason it looks worse than DLSS.

>>720387976
like shit too but you re console nigger and barely notice until it crash

>>720387976
Have to wait for the benchmark channels because it's apparent that gearbox didn't send them review copies because they knew how bad the performance was going to be.

>>720387926
They do it because the meat can toughen and turn rubbery on top of the chemicals that make it taste like shit. Knifing it will induce that rigor mortis immediately. The best way to dispatch it is through electrocuting it to death in a quick zap and then tossing it into the pot. Maintains that sweet flavor and soft tenderness of the meat.

>>720387976
60fps

>>720378182
>DMC4 running good and looking good
go back to anime board retard and update yourself dmc5 released you can stop shilling that retarded early ps3 game

>>720373407
this.
just this.
unironically

>>720386296
>Performance looks better than DLAA
Not sure what the point of thjs picture is supposed to be with relation to your post

>>720388159
source?

>>720387976
Probably like every other ue5 game. 30fps, 1080p-ish roughly medium/high settings
Performance mode never hits 60fps and is more like 720p-ish, mix of low/medium/high + maybe a few settings lower than what you can set on pc.

>>720388159
Is there a single ue5 game that actually does 60fps on the consoles?

>>720388146
You knife it and then toss it in, dumbass. You don't need some fancy electric bullshit and you definitely don't need to be a retarded faggot boiling crabs alive.

>>720388278
pitchford himself.

>>720388412
Fortnite runs at 120fps. MGS Delta runs closer to 60 most of the time than 30. Silent Hill 2 ran at 60 nearly all of the time. Tekken 8, etc.

>4k
>mfg 4x
>dlss performance mode

Okay great infograph. So a 2599$ RTX 5090 runs Boredomland 4 at 64fps @ 1080p

I love unreal engine yipee

>>720388235
Nah. DLSS added AI hallucination. Literally broke the texture of the floor and made it looked like a rainstorm just happened in the room.

>>720388554
>source is randy pitchford
lol

The game looks like fucking ass. How is it even this demanding?

>>720387217
>Not to mention who the fuck posts without a VPN in this place nowadays?
Most common VPNs are blocked from posting, I used BitDefender and it's blocked unless you pay for the pass.

>>720388717
it's quite simple actually. as a dev, you enable every ue5 setting and ship it.

https://youtu.be/x_urbpAri4w?t=4

I'm going to be playing BL4 on a 1060 6GB tomorrow because a friend bought it for me as a birthday gift, wish me luck bros

>>720387668
Cos' their lead addled boomers

>>720371890
And another

>>720388814
>40fps
>CPU - 7800x3d
>GPU - RTX 4090 SUPRIM X

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE CLOWNS DOING

That's it. Kill all gamedevs.

>>720388554
>MGS Delta runs closer to 60 most of the time than 30. Silent Hill 2 ran at 60 nearly all of the time.
I know for a fact these 2 aren't true.
I think even digital foundry showed that they ran fairly poorly on ps5. Maybe silent hill 2 it's fixed on pro but mgs is cpu bound.

>>720372479
Because they are both out of control.

>>720371849 (OP)
What exactly changed that it requires such hardware to play? It looks like any other borderlands

>>720386216
How does that help Gearbox or 2K?

>>720389643
Ryzen 3600 became the target for 30 fps, instead of literal tablet CPU

>>720389643
PS5 is the target, most recent games are optimized around 30fps on this target, ps5 is a little bit slower than a 3600 + 6700m. Simple

Like it matters. It is going to break 300k+ players and outsell all previous games.
Gamers are retards.I hope ue6 has a mandatory shader stutter every 5 seconds.

>>720371849 (OP)
THIRD WORLD POORFSGS ITT
BUY 6090 ELSKEKS

>>720387642
Bro, I already mentioned Oblivion in my post.

>>720371849 (OP)
>not being able to buy the best hardware every single year to play the lastests releases without any issues
what are you? poor? LMAO!!!

>>720385845
>Spend 2 grand on a card that plays at 1080p and adds extra input lag on top
If you're buying these cards for gaming you're a complete moron.

>>720378514
10900k and a 3080 8gb here, I refunded it because I could not get it to run stably at 1080p and 60 fps even on medium or low settings.

>>720391998
>extra input lag on top
DLSS FG + Relex is still less latency than no reflex + no fg.
>buying these cards for gaming you're a complete moron
Not like there's been a viable alternative to Nvidia for like a decade now.
>>720392169
The 3080 mobile is slower than a binned RTX 2070 (desktop)
You're basically at the minimum requirements for the game.

>>720392378
what do you mean 3080 mobile? it's just a first gen standard 8gb vram 3080

>>720392443
3080 8gb doesn't exist on desktop, it's 10gb or 12gb.

>>720392569
ah yeah you're right, it's 10gb VRAM

>>720392378
>DLSS FG + Relex is still less latency than no reflex + no fg.
range ban india now

>>720392632
the laptop gpu is different and has 8

>>720392713
I don't have a laptop brotherman, do they even make laptops with i9 10900ks? lol

i just got the vram wrong because im retarded

>>720392696
It's literally just a hard fact. Some of these games the latency is halved when you turn on framegen if you don't have a way to toggle reflex separately
I would link hard proof, but every hardware reviewer has decided they're Team Red Fanboys now so it's hard to find actually info on the internet.
>>720392713
16gb was a less commonly available option as well. I learned the other day that a 20gb 3080ti exists, don't know why you would need that much for a 3080ti but whatever.

5090 sucks. Everyone seems to have issues with it on every game. It can't be every dev not optimizing. It has to be the hardware.

>>720393016
You don't need Reflex at all to have low latency, Rajeet.

All you need to do is to lock the framerate and ensure your GPU is not a bottleneck. But of course that's way too much to do for a tech illiterate like you

how incompetant are devs that a graphics card that came out after 2020 can't run this game, do they think people have playstation 6 already???

>>720393097
idk man, if you take a game like Metro Exodus which is visually on par with newly released titles it easily runs at 144fps with everything maxed at 4k, UE is just garbage, take MGS delta for example, you can go inside a stall in a bathroom and you're facing basically a flat texture on a flat surface and the fps just dips to 25, that's not normal.

>>720380227
>beat out by Silksong

>>720393110
>You don't need Reflex at all to have low latency
Of course, but it's also true that Framegen + Reflex will be even lower.
>>720393268
>Metro Exodus which is visually on par with newly released titles it easily runs
And then you move 5 feet in game and the lighting has totally changed for no reason.

>>720393531
stop moving the goalposts, if a 6 year old game with higher fidelity than recent titles can run at a smooth 100+fps then clearly something is wrong with the game, not the hardware

>>720371849 (OP)
Bad ass

>>720393676
>Bad, ass.

>on 3060ti
>barely hitting 30fps
I think I might have to upgrade the old girl ;_;

>>720393531
>Of course, but it's also true that Framegen + Reflex will be even lower.
No, it's fucking not.
The only way for you to shill frame gen is to compare the latency at the worst case scenario - being GPU bottlenecked.

And guess what Reflex does, it just unfucks the input latency increase when being GPU bottlenecked. Not to mention Reflex lately fucks up the GPU performance, in UE games in particular.

>>720393635
Metro Exodus isn't even smooth, the 1% lows are basically on the same tier/arguably worse than what you see in ue5 games
>Source?
Me
>>720393819
>it just unfucks the input latency increase when being GPU bottlenecked
Well if it works it works, doesn't matter how it does it.
>fucks up gpu performance
Works on my machine :)

>>720394039
>Metro Exodus isn't even smooth, the 1% lows are basically on the same tier/arguably worse than what you see in ue5 games
144fps with occasional dips to 130/120 is not the same as 50fps with dips to 20s
>Source : me
I'll clarify, just to be clear, that I'm talking about 5090 + 14900 performance, not some GTX 760 prebuilt, if your shit engine can't even run 2016 looking games smooth on the newest hardware then it's a shit engine

5070Ti/9800X3D here, had to use quality DLSS instead of DLAA to get a stable 60@1080p. And I've had two crashes. I even updated my drivers just before this shit.

>>720394390
>I even updated my drivers just before this shit.
dude, it's Nvidia, the drivers are hot trash either way, unless you downgrade to pre-2025, which you can't even do

>>720381151
>all about how many cosmetics the publisher can sell
This is particularly funny in FPS games like CoD where you can't even fucking see your character most of the time. I used to play it with a dude who would buy skin packs without even thinking about it. We'd boot up the game and while in the pre-game lobby he'd see an ad for a fuckin Snoop Dogg skin or whatever and just immediately purchase it.

>try DLSS framegen shit thinking people were bullshitting about "fake frames"
>game feels like fucking garbage to play
>160 fps
>the fuck, no it isn't
>check frametimes
>30ms at BEST, often over 70ms
>turn framegen off
>Game is suddenly and immediately snappy
>'only ~55fps' now
>my frametimes are 16-20ms and much more stable instead of spiking constantly
>game is now actually playable

They weren't lying, it isn't bullshit. Framegen is literally just fake frames that actually DESTROYS your performance. It's pure pajeetsoft - the number everyone cares about went up so that must mean it's better in the pajeet subhuman animal brain.

Nvidia are jewing the fuck out of people and falsely advertising what you're getting with framegen. They literally just make your FPS counter go up while tanking the game's actual performance. Company deserves to get sued to the stone age.

>>720395025
The poor framepacing is an issue basically exclusive to fsr-framegen
Silence poorfag, stop making things up

Why do game devs not optimize anymore?

>>720393720
I'd call you a retard for buying an 8gb card, but people are still buying those lel
I'm not upgrading my 3060 till there's something twice as good, including 24gb vram around the same price it was for me, $250

>>720395253
Shut the fuck up go subhuman garbage shill, I know what I'm seeing and experiencing in my own games, you can kindly go stuff your head up your prostituted STD ridden asshole.

I genuinely hope your nvidia slavemasters take a long shit in your mouth. You deserve far worse for what you do to shill their garbage products by lying and bullshitting everyone.

I don't know how but somehow I ran Doom The Dark Ages in 100 fps on a 3070 while /v/ was still talking how even 4090 can't run it in native 1080p or something. It's almost like they're just taking 4K ultra benchmarks and then using them as the norm.

played 2hrs and refunded

game is fine but its not 70€ fine

needs about 1 year worth of performance patches, 2 DLCs, then some more performance patches and then a price drop of about 50% and it's worth it for me

>>720395025
Frame generation is especially bad for first person games that involve a lot of aiming. It's still noticeable in many other games, but it's especially a horrible experience when you turn it on for an FPS game because of how bad it feels to control. Another reason why fake frames shouldn't be encouraged or supported, but unfortunately we've got too many people who have no idea why it's bad (and they don't care) so it'll keep getting added to new games.

>>720395363
because they're being funded by jews to make your life shittier, or the inverse version of this which is basically the same thing, jews inflated their currency to where their 80k a year salary is worse than a 40k salary was 10 years ago so why in the hell would they put in effort for it

So does the game actually run like shit once you disable all the ugly raytracing and framegen and TAA shit or does it run like shit always, because if it only runs like shit with the retarded meme settings on then who cares

>>720395363
Big AAA developers don't have the talent anymore and shareholders don't like it when a game is optimized.

>>720395392
uh oh, someones having a poorfag/team-red melite

>>720395253
>4090 barely hits 59
>5080 cant even hit 50

>>720371849 (OP)
liking the game so far but the performance really is ass, might just refund and wait, or refund and get it on PS5 desu
but I also havent installed the newest game ready nvidia driver so who the fuck knows

>>720396190
if youre not yet in the open world then it gets about 20-30% worse still

>>720388412
ue5 games on ps5 upscale from 800p low/medium settings using dogshit fsr2 and never hold 60. more like 40-60.

>>720395651
>meanwhile doom the dark ages, a nvidia sponsored title, ran worse on a 5080 than on a 9070xt

>>720389138
MGS Delta actually does run 50ish most of the time i think. SH2 is 60 pretty much the whole time except for a handful of areas

>>720390242
Its going to run Borderlands 4 at 60fps though

>>720395025
fg is only usable in slow paced games on a controller

what the fuck is this bullshit

>>720396504
So you think a 3k card is worth it just to lock it to 60 over a base ps5? Youre kidding right? Youre paying some fat ass israeli tax on that bucko

How likely is it for this game to get on Game pass?

>>720396946
good one, maybe at 243p upscaled. Fuck this industry

>>720371849 (OP)
>4k
>rtx
ok but hows it run on actual settings

why do devs think people should buy their games if their games don't run on a 1070 gtx? I say that as someone that owns a 3080 ti

>>720372158
This. OP is definitely using some underpowered shit CPU like a 3600 or something.

>>720395253
is this 4k or 1440p or 1080p???

>>720396617
Post the path tracing benchmarks. In 2025 that's all that matters (Hint : AMD cards are literally unusable)
Why even bother spending $2000+ if you're just going to play at console tier settings?

>>720397071
Randy needs to know if you're a kid or not so he can prey on you.

>>720397152
rtx isn't optional
>>720397204
it says 9800x3D blind fool

>>720397093
you don't need a 3k card to beat the ps5 lol. dlss alone is miles better than fsr 2/3.

>based on benchmarks with 9800x3d and 5090's, the game doesn't even use a lot of vram at all even at native completely maxed settings
>somehow runs like garbage on literally everything, frame gen is actually needed for high refresh
UE5 is such a weird shitshow of a game engine. btw the game performance gets worse in the later parts of the game

>>720395253
big oof for AMDsoys

>>720372065
That's what the 64 FPS is meant to be in this I believe. You're barely generating above a slightly playable framerate for actual playable frames to be able to get something worth a damn.

>>720397329
You kinda do though. The best cards in the world are running B4 about as well as a ps5.

>Helldivers has shit performance
>Silksong needs a year of balance updates
>Now this needs a year of performance updates
Literally what the hell are devs doing during the years and years of development they claim they're working on these games? I'm getting really sick of this

>>720397284
>an unironic fagtracing shill
lol
imagine not being able to saturate an oled monitor because you stare at puddles

>>720397324
>>rtx isn't optional

holy crap, who tf do they think plays these games?

>>720393110
>>720393819
Maybe it's the way the modern games are programmed, but locking framerate doesn't help me with framerate. Meanwhile, reflex works like a charm.
First, please don't laugh that I had to make photos. For some reason, printscreen and NVidia's own screenshot hotkey don't capture NVidia overlay stats. I have no idea why, and google doesn't have an answer.

>9800 x3d, 5080
>stalker 2, ue5 slop
>max settings, 1440p DLAA
The games runs around 80 fps.
First photo is with DLSS FG + reflex, no vsync. ~14 ms input latency.
Second photo is locking framerate to 60, no vsync. ~25 ms input latency.
Reflex without FG was also resulting in 13-14 ms latency.

>day-1 patch supposed to fix stuttering from early build from reviewers
>it's still fucking there
>happens in the middle of fights
Gee thanks

>>720397204
Look faggot, it runs like shit on my rig too

>>720397241
1080p, hl2 rtx max settings. The performance could roughly be compared to most updated rtx remix mods
>>720397434
>oled
lol sorry I don't fall for memes. I use a miniled va panel

Shut the fuck up. Fuck PC gamers. Use a PC for something else

>>720397578
>amd cpu
>threadripper which is equivalent to a xeon in fuckin 2007 when intel i5 existed
>shit performance
GEEE I WONDER WHY

>>720387952
It's really simple, they build the game for the best computers on the market and then at the last minute they try to downscale the game so it runs on mid hardware.
Problemo is that at that point the spaghetti code is so bad there's no saving it, so they just lower polygon counts and texture resolution and pray it works in a ryzen 3600x (it doesn't)

>>720397702
Unironically there's pretty much no use for a PC nowadays. You're good with just a smartphone and a console of your choice

>>720371849 (OP)
At this point, Unreal 5 must be one giant troll. Any dev dumb enough to use it is just admitting how inept they are to the world.

>>720397324
>rtx isn't optional
??? wtf are they thinking

>>720397615
>lol sorry I don't fall for memes.
you fell for the meme of offloading lighting to the consumer lmao

>>720397578
>Uses mid tier system
>Complains 2025 AAA game doesn't run at 240 fps

>>720397578
Should have bought a xeon, you fell for snake oil

>>720397578
>he uses "work"station AMD garbage for gaming
lmao

>>720371849 (OP)
genuinely the worst performance-per-visuals i've ever seen in a game

>>720397846
UE5 can be used competently if you're a dev that actually has time to spare and sit down with this shit for a fuck given. It's still gonna have dogshit overhead due to just simply being higher-spec even without all the new features, but optimizing it IS possible. However, the AAA industry is so fucked on churning shit out without any optimization passes, or worse giving it off to outsourced indian passby bullshit for Q&A who just make sure shit launches and functions, that it's not hard to see why it's becoming synonymous with a giant pile of shit when everyone rushes past the "fucks given" part.

>>720397740
900w 96 cores at 5hz, 11k cpu here. Take your fucking meds retard i can run 50 bl3 instances on it and not make it stress, I also can bet my left nut it runs circles around your cpu on single core performance, fuck out of this board u retarded corporate shills ffs

I want to remind everyone that this time around you are not getting a season pass with the good goy edition. They are now individually going to sell each DLC for a flat price.

Expect like 30 DLCs

>>720397284
pt is nice but raster still looks just as comfy

>>720386143
>New game on max settings
it looks like it was made in 2013

>>720373335
except sometimes max uses HW lumen while high uses software lumen and the cost of HW lumen can be the difference between 60fps and 30fps

>>720371849 (OP)
Why do you always fall for clickbait garbage?
Here is my experience:
120-150 fps on Very High Settings @ 1440p with FSR.
I use a Ryzen 7600, 7800 XT, 32gb ddr5, 2tb nvme ssd, windows 11.
I just played the game for 4 hours without any crash or stutter or any issue.

>>720398009
>Passmark Single Thread Rating
>4574

>>720397578
reposting this image to /g/ I want more people to have a laugh

are there any config commands to force raytracing off?

>>720398009
>5 hertz in 2025
amdfags really expect performance out of thin air lmaoing

>>720398174
is it mandatory ray tracing? if it's mandatory baked into the lighting there's nothing you can do
the new doom had that shit too

>>720398174
If they're doing Lumen, then turning that off is gonna literally strip out all the lighting.

>>720398174
Try forcing dx11
Or use universal unreal unlocker (whatever it's called)
Or try copying over cfg tweaks from other ue5 games

>>720398302
i'm fine with that, i just want it to run at a normal frame rate and the textures and sobel filter do a lot of heavy lifting aesthetically

>the game runs like shit
>people know it runs like shit
>people buy it anyway
This and MH:Wilds just show there's no hope for PC gaming. Publishers and devs are not getting punished, people blindly buy the game.

>>720373407
But I have fifty years worth of old games to play that run on a potato. What now, Matt Walsh?
>>720373445
Ten years ago MGSV could run on an integrated intel chip set at 720p 30fps, Ranesh.

>>720398415
You guys have a very generous refund policy so there's nothing stopping those 200k from refunding in an hour

>>720398007
moot point since any dev who can't be assed to make their own engine or optimize Unreal also wouldn't optimize their own engine for the same reasons.

>>720373445
the point isn't that they're new, the point is that they look like shit and still run like shit
looks should reversely correlate with performance

>>720398149
100 points bellow "best" single bread gaming cpu. Which is literally non factor for gpu bound shit

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+Threadripper+PRO+9995WX&id=6693

like you poorfags can cope as much as u want, I can't care less, point for the matter is, this game is shit optimised on native

>>720398550
Xbox is also generous. If you tell them the game is unplayable garbage theyll refund it, its just a few more steps

>>720398302
That's just sad
You know, there was a time where tech took scalability into account. If it's not scalable, then they use something else.

how well does the game run on console?

>>720398302
Just bring back vertex lighting at this point wtf

>>720398302
>26fps
>looks like that
what the hell is wrong with unreal engine 5

>"What's that? gamers think dlss quality is better than native? then what's the point of optimizing our product

thanks retards

>>720398720
Better than PC, definitely playable, but you will have issues still like FPS drops, texture issues, and lighting issues

>>720398879
To be fair that's on a Steam Deck I think, but if fuckin Cyberpunk can hit 30 FPS at low to medium settings + upscaling and look better on that thing then you have a real problem.

>>720398974
Hey I never let Digital Cucoldry speak for me.

>>720398974
also gamers cant tell the difference between real frames and fake frames now.

>>720398974
>gamers think dlss quality is better than native
i fucking hate nvidia shills so fucking much

>>720398974
>UGHHH WHY USE NATIVE TAA WHEN YOU CAN USE DLSS?

>>720398302
Wait a minute I thought lumen was the reason ue5 runs like shit, even if it's off it's still garbage?

>>720399148
Sorry, meant Digital *Faggotry

>>720399261
Yes. Unreal Engine is a mess of a engine. It runs a crap ton of random job threads that eat up CPU and GPU cycles for no reason. The profiler will tell you this but most devs ignore it.

>>720397304
fucking kek

>>720379643
People actually play Borderlands?
I played 1 hour and installed it and since then there have been several sequels.
It's ass.

>>720399156
Post your GPU so we can laugh at you

>>720371849 (OP)
Anyone who trusts Randy or gives him money is a fucking retard if they hadn't learned this lesson yet after how many games?

>>720399215
BUT IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER IN SCREENSHOTS AND ON DIGITAL FOUNDRY WHEN NOTHING IS MOVING
DELETE THIS

>>720399261
Lumen is honestly pretty cost-effective at this point for what it does, the assets and polygon count are probably a major part of what's crushing Delta. I wouldn't even be surprised if there's no proper culling. Epic manage to get shit working well enough that Fortnite is a competitive level for performance, but anyone else puts this shit in their hands and it becomes a trainwreck because they just expect UE5 to handle everything for them.

>>720393521
2bh, that game is so big it's not really a fair comparison.

>>720399215
Because DLSS is not the same thing as FG. FG x 1000 looks like that yea.

>>720397071
Wow that's dumb.
>just pretend you're 18

>>720399448
epic ships a large pso file with fortnite they made by just playing the game over and over and over. most other devs cant do this because either they lack time or doing any major changes (or epic does it for you next ue version) will invalidate the cache anyways.

>>720391998
Wait until they realise that the AI shit on it is actually a compromise and worsens the card.

>>720399215
>>720399443
Those are not DLSS artifacts, retards.

>>720399448
Nigger, Fortnite runs like shit while looking like a 360 game tf you talking about?

let me guess
this thing is nigh unplayable on a 9070 XT as some retardo Black Myth Wukong effect

>>720390589
That is such a waste of meat.
God I hate automation. Can't do shit correctly.

>>720399726
That's TAA/upscalers buddy

Just imagine crafting those beautiful models, textures, animations and lighting... Just for rendering all and apply taseline on top with temporal artifacts.

>>720380227
could've been worse..

>>720399148
>OH MY POZ LOADS....IS THAT.....IS THAT...HECKIN MOTION BLUR WITH DYNAMIC RESOLUTION RESOLUTION SCALING DOWN TO 360P!!? AND HECKIN DLSS WITH BASED GAYTRACING????

>>720399862
>Killing Floor 3 performed worse than Payday 3

holy shit

>>720387668
Taste.
But honestly, freezing them first is best (and tastes best for me - fucking delicious).
With crabs, they're fucking hardy motherfuckers so there's very little difference to them no matter what you do.

But I hate crabs so I'm fine with their torment. Fucking nippy fucks.
Remind me of me and I dislike that.

>>720399780
according to steam forums it runs much better on amd gpus than nvidia. reminds me of wuthering waves or doom ages. nvidia sponsored games but they run better on amd cuz they dont crash or stutter.

>>720371849 (OP)
THATS BADASS!

>>720399809
I hate that I've seen the entire set too many times.

>>720397071
online games make you give your dob now to comply with EU law

>>720389824
Don't do that. Gut the crab properly. Shove a screwdriver through its back, between the shell and its abdomen, and pry the shell off. Then wash out all its guts.

>>720371890
>>720372479

>>720387668
lobsters and certain crabs release toxins when they die and left there for a while. so you cook them alive to prevent the toxins from releasing. if you see people getting sick from eating shellfish its likely due to dead meat.

>>720381472
What's funnier is that Silk sold so many more copies for a 5th of the price and without denuvo that it made far more bank than this game.
The industry is a fucking joke man. AAA is dead. They just don't know what they're doing anymore. They don't even understand economics and marketing anymore. Making a solid fanbase, etc.
Instead they just fuck their fans in the ass and expect to make ends meat.

It's fucking disgusting.
Cyberpunk might have been the last AAA game I played. I've just been ignoring their crap since because it's just garbage. There's so many better games made by nobodies out there.

>>720400619
I don't think that's how it works at all.
>I'm going to boil out the ciguatera

>>720371849 (OP)
Death to UE5 already.

>>720399809
hold on let me get my yogurt

>>720399862
What is this fucking industry even at this point, bro.

>>720376842
That's nice but doesn't change that it is 1080p internal. And you shouldn't have to game at 1080p on a fucking $2000 flagship graphics card

>>720401609
>game looks better than 8xmsaa BUT ITS JUST NOT OK BECAUSE IT JUST ISNT

>>720401654
>looks better than 8x MSAA
Sure thing Jensen.

>>720371849 (OP)
Whenever you guys make a thread complaining that a game doesn't run on a 5090, it's always the worst game imaginable that isn't even worth playing.

>>720401609
seethe all you want, native rendering is dead. Games are already designed around a mandatory upscale and it's only going to get worse
Wait until devs realize people can't tell the difference between 30fps going through framegen to make 60/120fps and a real 60fps/120fps.
Any type of "philosophy" over real/fake image aside, dlss performance still looks the same/usually better than native 4k+taa
No you aren't going to just use msaa or ssaa, dlss is literally the best case scenario

>>720400659
AAA isn't about capturing and maintaining a fanbase anymore, it's about gradually asking more money from your dwindling fanbase fostered by people who were better at their job than you are but have either retired or moved on to greener pastures.
Randy was gonna sell this shitpile for $80 because he knows none of his games will ever do do BL2 numbers ever again.

>>720401907
you expect more from a 5090 owner?

>>720401609
>>720401960
The real question are what games are that demanding that are even worth playing?

>>720402287
Silent Hill 2
Cyberpunk pt
Oblivion Remaster (insanely inconsistent performance even if you ignore the stuttering)
Cronos
RTX Remix mods
Silent Hill F (in like 10 days)

>>720371849 (OP)
I'm not seeing actual charts of it's performance without maximum DLSS enabled at all times.
With how framegen works though is that it's probably running around 80fps native because using framegen shifts GPU power towards allocating the AI cores to make fake frames instead of throwing everything at native rendering.

But that's still abysmal dogshit for the best gaming PC setup you can currently have on fucking 1080p for a game that looks like it should run on an xbox360 at 30fps.

>cant get above 40fps on 3060ti with everythng on low
Its over...

>>720402707
>probably running around 80fps native
Using the same dlss setting but no fg it's probably like 70ish-fps

>>720402948
I meant like, if you ran it at native 1080p it would probably get around 80fps because it wouldn't be shifting focus towards DLSS or framegen.

>>720401960
Sadly true and the only major voices against it are retards like Threat interactive who make the most bad faith and stubborn arguments ever + extreme arrogance which results in more harm than good for people who don't like upscaling

crashed again lol

>>720395589
you can't disable the raytracing

>>720371890
>Timmy come clean up the mess you left in the engine right now!
>No mommy! I'm climbing a tree!

>>720403462
he is actually so retarded rofl + lmao

>>720403102
4K Performance DLSS has <1ms cost on 5090. You won't move the needle in a meaningful way comparing 1080p to 4K Performance.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NVIDIA/DLSS/main/doc/DLSS_Programming_Guide_Release.pdf

>>720372065
DLSS and MFG will leech memory but not raw raster power because it's got it's own hardware for that.

>>720403703
Did you respond to the wrong post? This is about the gpu rendering performance, not frametime or response time or whatever that is.

>>720371849 (OP)
You faggots were shilling this slop
Badass

>>720403849
i never said it would run well lol

>>720403750
bruh dlss does absolutely take "power", like 1-2ms raw compute, while still using tensor cores

>>720403909
That latency is just the nature of the process. It's not "taking power" from rasterization.

>>720400729
That’s exactly how it works, it’s the same reason hunters field dress their kills. Dead meat goes bad fast.

>>720403703
Interesting...
Where do you think the xx70 and blackwell xx60/ti cards would be?

>>720404018
Don't bother trying to argue with that troll, he's famously retarded.

>>720395589
raytracing is mandatory in UE5 games.

>>720405551
>>720403446
I can turn it off in Rivals just fine

>>720403796
No? fps is just the inverse of frametime, this applies

>>720395363
Why bother when morons are going to buy it anyway?

>asked for my date of birth
>unistalled and got a refund

>>720400186
kek that's pretty badass

>>720371849 (OP)
>64GB ram

>>720410226
Its 2025 what the fuck did you expect?

>>720402924
Wait for the optimized .inis to hit ModNexus. Those are guaranteed to help, even if a little bit.

>>720410063
>being underage

>>720381839
Thats just the preorder skin tho

is it safe to use optiscaler or will it get me banned

>>720411019
>>>>>>>>>banned
>>>>>>>>>singleplayer game
yes sar please do not redem potiscaler very bad!!!

>>720371849 (OP)
like I get it if the game looks as good as max graphic cyberpunk sure, but it looks like shit and somehow runs worse? make it makes sense

>>720372262
> "Borderlands 4" for the charity "NEXT For AUTISM"
how did they know?

>>720374215
>rtx is just a tariff
HOLY

S-STOP THE COUNTING!

>>720371849 (OP)
If it can't run good, then why does it have 200k players right now?
Checkmate poorfags

>>720371849 (OP)
then buy a better video care stop being poor

>>720402924
I have an RTX 3060... what are your settings? I was hoping 60fps on medium with DLSS on balanced...

>>720413307
lol

>>720395253
oh it's this fag who posts cropped screenshots of chang myth wudong, an nvidia tech demo, even though borderlands 4 is currently running 10% worse on the nvidia equivalent gpu the 5070 ti

>devs responding to every negative review
fucking embarassing

>>720410420
32 is more than enough

>>720410654
>being a complete retard

On low with upscaling

it's over for....5 year old rigs.....lol

>>720413109
>video care

>>720412456
that shit is meaningless and only exists to make people buy newest thing

>>720411249
UE5 :)

I'll admit I didn't see Borderlands 4 being this popular or selling this well
But then again they spent metric fuckton on ads so I guess it paid off

>>720415450
youtube link? it can't be that bad wtf

does 4k DLSS performance mode look better than 1440p native ?

>>720415450
the 3060 has always been frankly dogshit, this guy must be pooping himself in rage since he's a massive nvidia fanboy

>>720415623
and borderfags are all braindead redditors

>>720387952
>Why are devs so bad at using UE5 compared to literally any other engine? Why do they refuse to learn how to use it properly?
Modern game "devs" are mostly outsourced jeets that do everything with presets. UE5 was designed to allow third worlders to make cheap games for maximum profits.

>>720371849 (OP)
Seems playable enough. Waiting for the DLCs to come out.

>>720371849 (OP)
good thing nobody wants to play this anyway

>>720371849 (OP)
The game is badass though

>>720415462
if you cared more about making money isntead of spelling errors you'd be able to play this game

>>720399372
Yes anon, people play games.

>>720399372
You played 1 hour and THEN installed it? Chuck Norris shit right here.

who /badass/ here?

>>720415736
looks way better, why not just try it yourself

>>720417406
>tsr

>look at modern game on ultra
>runs like shit
>put it to medium
>looks nearly identical
>144fps average with the usual UE5 stutter
I miss when graphical settings had an actual visible impact beyond just VRAM allocation for poorly streaming in textures.

>>720397392
you are crazy if you think the ps5 is running anywhere near close to those. 800p fsr never forget.

>>720417406
>upscaling is on

>>720399816
Who cares about quality, all we care about is quantity!

>>720419448
dont have a 4k monitor

>>720397392
retard

Do you think technology getting better is to blame, or games like this would genuinely be cancelled if the technology to run them didn't suddenly appear?

>>720398302
Lumen looks so damn bad too. Halves your FPS just to replicate lighting from a 10 year old game.

>Years and years of the industry racking profits from retards and firing devs even if their stocks did positive.
>No dev wanna work with video games anymore given the workplace is volatile as hell
>Now you only get desperate 3rd worlders wanting to leave their shithole and they don't have enough education or training to do well

>>720409593
No it doesn't you absolute nignogger. Using DLSS/Framegen takes away resources from the normal rendering. The end result of 4X framegen is not a straight 4x of your normal fps for that exact reason.

>>720373679
OOOOWWWW! HOW COULD YOU GIVE YOUR OWN BROTHER THE SPICY CRUSTACEAN, DOMINIC?!

the problem is they think 60 fps is enough and nvidia pays them for graphical overkill so that even at minimum settings you're not gonna go above 70. I miss 3dfx

>>720420554
But it looks just like Borderlands 2?

Anyone with a 6600XT? How is this game on it?

>>720421619
I wouldn't even bother.