Thread 720374629

Now that the dust has settled is it worth playing?

DD1 has a better artstyle
DD2 has a better economy

if you like the first one you'll like the sequel (more so if you go in with modest expectations)

>>720374629 (OP)
it has some neat features but otherwise it's pretty boring and samey all the way through, went and replayed DD1 and while i did have rose-tinted glasses for it, it still kept me interested more than DD2

DD2 was too big of a world for how little was going on, the elf village is missed potential, the thief village is missed potential, it's all very barebones and the only thing i can REALLY say i remember is
>Cyclops slipping on an ice cube into a ravine
>Ogre ambushing me from behind a wall and punching me straight into a tree anime style
>that one quest where you can optionally kill a gorgon, just to cut off her head and turn some random monster to stone, so an artist can faithfully recreate them for their job

>>720374629 (OP)
Its a fine game, overhyped, underdelivered.

The fact they arent going to do DLC says that DD is dead for real now. I wouldve played more DD if they made it, the problem with DD2 is that it felt like it was missing half the game, not that I disliked what I actually got to play.

Yes, contrary to what midwits will tell you this one isn't worse, it's just different.
the combat and sidequests are better while the enemy variety is worse.
you still get a great memorable adventure which is the core of this series imo. Adventurekino.

Yeah, it's fun. I didn't like the story as much as the first game, but the story was always the weakest point of DD anyway. The new classes in DD2 are fun and I really liked the new or changed monsters. Quest structure is about the same as the previous game; it's mostly fun just to go out, kill stuff, and gear up.

>>720374629 (OP)
That is one of the ugliest cat persons I've ever seen. Why did they think the game even needed them?

i like playing 2 more than one for a variety of reasons (core systems are a bit more fun, stuff like oxcarts/camping/monster infights) but i dearly miss 1's armor system and bitterblack was a good replayable dungeon even if i don't need level 3 stuff anymore

>>720374629 (OP)
Yes. If you liked DD1 you'll like DD2.

>>720374629 (OP)
when the FUCK is the fucking dlc. Capcom wouldn't really just sit on this game and do literally nothing with it forevermore would they??

lol

lol

heh

>>720375059
I liked the first one

>>720374629 (OP)
if you think 1 was kind of barebones in some areas then 2 is going to be a desert with the tiniest specks sprinkled here and there. worth playing for free if you dont mind wasting your time

>>720374629 (OP)
The desert area felt too cramped.
The cat people were uneccessary.

>>720374629 (OP)
For 20bucks yeah

Both DD games suck because they don't understand RPG systems and enemy design

>>720375145
This is the correct take. What is actually in the game is great. There's just not enough of it, and too much of it is overtly unfinished. Both DD1 and DD2 are unfinished, janky, and glimpses of greatness with huge empty swathes were clearly content was once supposed to be. It's wild that they apparently made the exact same mistakes with both games.

>>720374629 (OP)
It’s not unplayable, people just expected more after 12 years.

>>720374629 (OP)
post the cat with zoomer hair, always crack me up lmfao

>>720374629 (OP)
The definition of 7/10
It's an above average game, it's not spectacular, it's not not bad.
It's definitely worth playing. It lost a bit of charm of the first one, but made up for it in other places.

>>720374629 (OP)
Not until it's on sale for less than the first be ause it has less content

Slides off rock killed it for me.
Game about exploration, yet I slide off every single 15 degree slope if its a rock. Movement just isn't very fun.
Otherwise it's fine, just not what I was hoping for. No fashion's dogma was lame. Very obvious budget cutting measures throughout, endgame is lame as fuck.
Pic related sums up my feelings on the two games well.

it's just very boring, it feels like a tech demo for an RPG and not a complete game.

>>720383180
>58/59
casual

>>720374629 (OP)
No

>>720374629 (OP)
It's alright.
Kinda disappointing, especially the endgame.

I think it's worth playing, yeah

>>720374629 (OP)
Yeah it's good, unfinished but good.

They abandoned the game and scrapped the DLC that tells you all you need to know

>>720374629 (OP)
>DD1 open world was bare bones, incomplete and repetitive
>DA saves DD by adding the best dungeon and most fun content in the game
>DD2 completely forgets how a more linear dungeon did a million times better and went ahead and made a bigger, empty game again.

They will never learn.

>>720387182
Yeah it lets us know that Capcom is in full panic mode focusing on trying to salvage the shitpile that is Wilds

>>720387343
>DD2 is le empty
You didn't play the game

>>720387497
Save it, after 10 hours, the open world might as well be a backtracking field and means nothing, just like DD1.

>>720387578
Thanks for confirming that you didn't pay it.

>>720374629 (OP)
The problem I have with this game, and most modern games, is the movement feels sluggish.
It is possible to have good looking animations that are also responsive to player input, DD1 nailed this.
Third person action games from the last decade seem to make player inputs a suggestion rather than a command, prioritizing animation over gameplay.
It makes everything worse, and DD is nothing without it's gameplay. It's shit.
Pure liquid shit.

>>720390669
Your opinion is liquid shit

>>720374629 (OP)
No

>>720374629 (OP)
Yes

>>720375201
I think the side quests are about even, with 1 having more memorable characters. I do agree that exploration is better in 2 as well as combat. Being able to ground or wall finish enemies is very satisfying and camping out with pawns is super comfy.

>>720374629 (OP)
it's a shadow of what it could and SHOULD have been - and is noticeably lacking in SOUL compared to the original

>>720376236
Capcom never wanted to make dd2 and only allowed itsuno to make one because of dmc5 success but then nepo baby came and ask his daddy to fund gazillion bucks in wilds so he can add pointless cutscenes and rdr2 like details, daddy agreed and sacrifice dd2 for wilds

>>720391826
>>720391907

>>720391826
>>720391907
>>720391996

Still mad at Itsuno for not adding Menella romance

>>720391539
Climbing feels way worse unfortunately. I remember really enjoying climbing and slashing away with Strider, but I can't be bothered to try climbing shit anymore.

>>720390904
Yo mama is liquid shit

>>720392141
she's a very boring character anyways. The entire Batthal story and worldbuilding were basically irrelevant

>>720374629 (OP)
It's not some GOTY masterpiece, but neither was DD1.

>>720392897
Your mom is a boring character

>>720386745
it's still astonishing to me the cat people were the biggest addition in dd2

>>720376301
I wonder if hacktsuno is aware of how many people he let down.

>>720390669
They really did go all out, haha...

>>720393168
Afaik they were meant to be in DD1, also the Sphinx was a pretty big addition if you catch my drift

>>720375135
I liked exploring the world, camping with pawns, and modding monsters and being ambushed at unexpected more times than I liked the main story. I feel like it was deliberately obtuse until the very end, but it didn't move quite as intensely as DD1's when the unmoored world happened. I wonder if DD2 might've been better off with a less structured story, and more of an open-ended design?

>>720374629 (OP)
it is but it is also worth deleting after you finish it.

>>720395785
You're brown

>>720374852
>game has a better economy
the fuck does this even mean?

>>720396437
Sorry pal, gonna have to come up with sth else.

>>720375339
Nah DD2's cat girls are cute

>>720375059
Wrong.

>>720397287
Uh oh someone forgot to dilate >>720376367

Lower your expectations and then you can have a blast playing it

>>720397287
I like both, DD2 is just too short. Already at lvl 30 there only challenging thing left is dragons, and only because they spam lightning and meteors and by the time you've revived a pawn he's casting it again.

it had the worst story/campaign ive ever played through. not exaggerating at all
also didnt have any much in terms of exploration, loot, or interesting things to do

i did have fun w/ pawns and progressing through the classes, but i can't recommend it on that alone

>>720397449
See >>720397425

>>720374629 (OP)
no. i can say after beating it twice, i can say i could have gone without the experience and i'd still have 70 bucks.

>>720397631
Why buy it at full price? When it comes to nu-capcom games always wait for a sale.

>>720397706
every game goes on sale retard

Yes, I did have a good time with it... but it was obvious that it would've been better given more time, love, and less intentional downgrading. Very blatantly fucked for the sake of MH.

are they still doing the expansion?

>>720397784
Exactly, so why'd you spend 70 bucks knowing it will inevitably go on sale?

>>720397557
>it had the worst story/campaign ive ever played through
But enough about Elden Ring

its not even worth 30. 5, just as i payed (sic) for dark arisen.

>>720374629 (OP)
I'd get it for 40 bucks. 70 is too much considering the game is unfinished.

>>720375059
I liked the first one and the sequel was hot piss
>Debilitations system gutted
>No endgame activity at all
>Worse enemy variety than even base DD1. Where are the Gazers? Where are the dragon variants? Where are the Cockatrice?
>Gutted the fantastic layered gear system for no reason at all
>Gutted crafting system, there are incredibly few ingredients
>Shit loot in just about every dungeon, usually a health pot or anti-burn potion. No drop tables. No loot refresh.
>Didn't bother to learn anything at all from the improvements DA made that elevated the first game to cult classic
>Took away Mystic Knight and the new classes are shitass

The only things that improved werse
>Initial character creation was more detailed and you could make your pawn oiled up and a real freak
>It was better looking than the first but that's not hard to do 12 years later
>Combat was tighter and climbing on enemies was better
And that is about it

For every thing they improved they took away like 3 things that made the first game actually unique. From everything I saw from interviews with the Devs I guess they thought everyone playing the first game was retarded and couldn't figure out how armor or the leveling system worked in DD1. I have no idea why they dropped the online interactive activities like Ur Dragon and didn't expand on it at all. They bent over backwords to try to get the normies and they fuckin gottem based on the people in this thread.

cuck devs
no lolis = dead game

>>720399428
Lolipedos like you get beaten to death in prison

>>720399707
enjoy your dead game moralfag

>>720400330
Enjoy your transition I guess

>>720375059
>if you like the first one you'll like the sequel (more so if you go in with modest expectations)
Incorrect. The gameplay is worse in 2.
>>720375201
>the combat and sidequests are better
Its worse.

>Removed animation cancelling
>Changed the physics to make them slower and more weighty
>Enemies are super squishy and way less aggressive
>Enemy variety is a lot worse
>Removed skills and status effects
>4 active skills instead of 6
>FOV changed to be way too close to the character
>Wayfarer is an abomination of a class
>If you wanna run dagger + bow then you either have 3 skills or you have to pause the game to switch your weapon (same with any two weapons really...)
Dragon's Dogma 2 feels much worse to play. These are JUST my issues with the gameplay. If I went into every issue I had with it, I could easily rant about it for 5+ posts.

>>720402449
Weak bait

>>720374629 (OP)
Id play more of it if they made it, be it a DLC or even another game. I liked DD1 more but DD2 was not bad at all, Id have liked to have seen DD find its footing and evolve, seems itll never get the chance now.

>>720402449
Go on lad, let's hear some more

It's okay. Not as good as the og and has a bunch of cool features stripped away even. I wouldn't pay more than 30 dollars for it. There's not enough quality content

>>720403465
honestly if they used the bones of DD2 to make a Lodoss game I wouldn't mind.

>>720374629 (OP)
Yes, it's pretty good.

>>720404690
Are any of the Lodoss games on Steam good?

>>720404852
there's more than one? I played Deedlit in wonder Labyrinth and it was a nice short romp with good tunes and pretty environments.

>>720405068
You're right. I assumed there were more in addition to the one on my wishlist for some reason. But that's good to hear.

>>720374629 (OP)
>Now that the dust has settled?!