Thread 720383663

I don't get it. How did this garner so much attention? How did it bring down digital storefronts? The world is full of metroidvanias, why is this the one that blew up?

>>720383663 (OP)
>How did this garner so much attention
It became a meme because of how long development took and normie trend chasers got swept up in the hype.
>How did it bring down digital storefronts?
They didn't take preorders so a million people all tried to buy it at once and overwhelmed their payment processing.

>>720383663 (OP)
Redditors are meme chasing bugmen

>>720383663 (OP)
>why is this the one that blew up?
because hollow knight is better than the rest
it came out in 2017 and hasnt been topped in 2025
every competing title has 1/3 the size and content, 1/3 the secrets, 1/3 the nonlinearity, and fired with souls ripoff combat like estus flask/iframe spam/deflects

I'm playing it right now (never touched HK). It's a normal, well executed game with cringe childish artstyle and characters that clash with the story/atmosphere (which is the reason Blasphemous and The Last Faith shit over HK in this aspect). I can't believe there are thousands of people who played this but never tried Sotn or Aria of Sorrow. In the past I even recognized the success of Dead Cells but this one escapes me.

>>720383663 (OP)
>The world is full of metroidvanias
name 10

>>720383663 (OP)
The first one is GOATed and sold 15 million copies. Metroid's franchise sales are at like 17 million and Castlevania at 20.

>>720386496
This is the real reason, the babies that played this game are dumb closed minded little shitters who haven't bothered to try anything else, >>720384818
>every competing title has 1/3 the size and content, 1/3 the secrets, 1/3 the nonlinearity
Not only not true but more does not automatically equal better

>>720386496
>cringe childish artstyle and characters that clash with the story/atmosphere
gr8 b8 m8

>>720386496
I've played 100+ Metroidvanias including all of Metroid and all of IGA Castlevania. HK and Silksong are better than them all. What now?

>>720386735
There is a cartoon kid pilgrim that sings and a cartographer mantis and they're both insufferable to my ears. Especially considering I'm walking through bug corpses and carapaces all the time. I don't remember kid cartoons being in dark souls

>>720386750
Yes.

720386496
>cringe childish artstyle

>>720387046
>mindbroken samefag
lmao

>>720383663 (OP)
Hollow Knight is good. Hornet is cute.

>>720383914
You were supposed to give a funny, incorrect answer.

>>720386975
The actual game looks nothing like that promotional illustration

>>720387046
I'm not criticizing the cute artstyle per se. Like I've said I've come to appreciate Dead Cells which is a fist in the eye visually-wise. Read my comment better and stop extrapolating words out of context.
I'm not liking Silksong for very similar reasons I didn't like Bloodstained. Perhaps I'll keep playing it and appreciate it better if shills don't compulse me to uninstall

>>720387297
I decided to subvert expectations

Hollow Knight, despite what redditors in disguise might say, was a great game. It had a great ost, artstyle, great combat, level design, and a cool story.
7 years of hype, a 10 dollar price tag, and the game is literally just more Hollow Knight with even better level design, more difficult, and a cute bug girl. We'll also get DLC for it, and most likely for free too.
It's not rocket science, it's literally just a great game with a great sequel, and a 10 dollar price tag.

>>720387658
>anyone who criticizes this game is a redditor in disguise
Honest discussion doesn't work like that.

>>720387945
/v/ is known for being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
I have seen genuine criticisms of the series and the late game, but sadly, buried under thousands of pure shitposts.

>>720386496
The combat and level design in Silksong is tight. Only a few games are so polished. Grime and Nine Sols come to mind.

>>720388641
Is this board even contrarian anymore if it likes/dislikes the same games the general masses like/dislike?

>>720387658
>Hollow Knight, despite what redditors in disguise might say, was a great game.
But redditors love Hollow Knigger. Their metroidvania board is HK central. The game is unsurprisingly shit.

>>720383663 (OP)
Hollow Knight was a very, very popular indie that came out in 2017. Its sequel, Silksong, was revealed in 2019. Fans expected to be playing this game like 6 years ago. Obviously that didn't happen, and in that time the anticipation grew to literally meme proportions. By 2025, anyone could've predicted how huge of a launch Silksong was going to have if the piece of shit "totally not vaporware guys" ever came out. But it did happen, and the world had 2 weeks to react to said happening. As such, you saw what happened on the day of release.

>>720389249
I appreciate the effort of making interconnected maps but level design is actually the thing that isn't piquing my interest. It's just big dimly lit purple/blue rooms in caves with bug corpses everywhere (and occasional industrial elements???), I already miss the green starting area. The enemies are either stupid grubs that walk at me or ninja ants with a miniboss moveset which is weird considering they are both normal common enemies but ok. Then there's the flying ones which only exist to make platforming more slow because I have no way to OHKO them like the flies they are. Which is another weird thing, normally enemies like that don't tank 4 hits and don't chase you (think of castlevania bats and medusas). The 3 bosses I beat so far were good. The guy that guards the ant area was also interesting because you had to lure it in the corridor to avoid it using one of its moves.
Another critique: you shouldn't design a game around the diagonal Castlevania kick it's too imprecise compared to the downwards one (which I assume is used in the first title)

>>720390413
Also I appreciate the destructible terrain but hate the traps (bad eyesight on my part). I think the designers couldn't decide if they wanted to make a fast game or a slow methodical one.

>>720386940
shit bait bro

>>720390413
I get your complaints. Some flying enemies should have less hp I think. I'm also not a big fan of boss runbacks, but overall I enjoy the level design (both mechanically and visually). The diagonal kick was simple for me once I realized I only have to hold down + attack to execute it but you can find another moveset very quickly. You mentioned a third boss so you are probably already in the area that has it (scissor enemies). This moveset has aoe "pogo" on down + attack and is definitely easier to execute (even multiple times in a row on the same enemy).

>>720383663 (OP)
>How did this garner so much attention
Paid shills

>>720391050
I did the diagonal attack like 3 minutes in in the game. It's just the castlevania kick except it stops at some point. The problem is not executing it, but aiming it because it's diagonal. Eventually you'll miss and fall down. In castlevania it was a "flex" mechanic to move faster, not required in any way to platform. Glad to hear it can be upgraded

>>720390413
Some of your complaints are very specific to the first 5-6 hours and early areas of a very long and varied game, some are evergreen. This doesn't make them wrong, but I don't think it's a fair assessment of the work as a whole.

>>720391651
I wouldn't call it an upgrade. It's a sidegrade really. If you prefer it, it may feel like an upgrade to you but some enemies and monsters are easier with the diagonal attack.

>>720383663 (OP)
Because most metroidvanias in reality are pretty shit.

>>720392674
Metroidvanias aren't shit but they are inherently formulaic. That said, the formula just works, it's basically IKEA assembling a 7/10 game at this point.

Is there anything importsnt to the lady bugs beyond their first minigame? Didnt realize theyed die in act three and forgot about them

>>720383663 (OP)
Hollow Knight has a big world for a small price. It’s consistently been a top seller on Steam and Switch store pages. This is its sequel. I like Blasphemous more but I’m not seething about it.

>There are people on /v/ who were too young to play Hollow Knight when it came out
Ooof.

>>720395105
wait ur tellin me a game in a genre plays like other games in the genre

Where in the HECK is the dashmaster

why is there no give hornet giant tits mod yet

>>720383663 (OP)
meme power because of the long developed time with almost no news in many years.
....
and because is actually pretty fucking good

>>720395746
First off, it's a subgenre of action adventure. Second, as far as action adventures go I'm saying this subgenre's pieces are especially easy to slot together since its namesake franchises did the heavy lifting part of fucking around and finding out. Cool, now copy the homework and maybe add a gimmick and aesthetic of your choosing. Congratulations, you have made a decent, functional game.

>>720383663 (OP)
It was awaited by many, it had no preorders and it was cheap

>>720396673
as compared to fps or sports or racing or

>>720383663 (OP)
bug sexo

Will they release a normal difficulty mode? The game is too hard for me to bother completing it. I got other shit to do.