Thread 720391957

I played it at Gamescom and I HAD A BLAST. Great atmosphere.

Its set in winter. Winter games always have great atmo.

>>720392063
This.

>>720391957 (OP)
Will it let me RP or do I play an action hack and slash game with a commander Shepard character?

>>720392638
the latter

>>720391957 (OP)
Is there really no inventory? Can't even pick up some blood bags? How is information stored (like idk a photo you need for an investigation)?

>>720391957 (OP)
Starting to feel the hype against my better judgement

>>720392796
>Is there really no inventory?
Nope
Can't even pick up some blood bags? How is information stored
Saw no blood bags. You have a codex tab which also works as a journal in the menu.

>>720393047
Are there optional interiors (and thus sidequests) you access from the hub? How do you open doors of said interiors?

>>720393304
>Are there optional interiors (and thus sidequests)
Yes to both. However from what they told me its very limited and the demo ended before getting any sidequest. Basically the locations shown in the map are where you can enter (some bars, clubs, stores, a church, etc). The doors are just opened with an animation of Phyre's hand, no loadscreens.

>>720393569
>some bars, clubs, stores, a church, etc
Well of course they're open I'm talking about backdoors, trapdoors, locales you are not meant to enter (like the hospital in downtown, the blood bank of therese's ghoul etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLaE7oE4NFk
The Tremere trailer actually ended up looking better than I thought it would

>>720393878
Also random closed apartments. VTMB had a plethora of those

>>720391957 (OP)
>>720392063
>>720392590
Samefag

>>720393878
None that I could see so, I don't think so?

Seems like it's going to be more like Redemption than Bloodlines. Except it won't have the amazing writing/story that motivates you to struggle past the combat sections.

>>720392921
You think it's just 1 guy?

>>720391957 (OP)
>Great atmosphere.
Literally the only thing I care about.
Gonna be a day 1 for me, whatever manufactured """vidya""" outrage you election niggers will occupy yourselves with.

>>720391957 (OP)
It's a return to form for Shit which studio even works on this pile of shit now, there's been like five.

>>720394251
Atmosphere + the execution of the power fantasy would be enough for a generic vampire simulator. Not enough on their own for a world of darkness game

I'm afraid now that Time Stranger has been confirmed for blurry wokeslop i'll have to play VTMB2 this October

>>720391957 (OP)
Fuck off shill

>>720394606
>there's been like five.
only two actually

Hardsuit Labs which was far more faithful to the original and was being written by the original's main writer, but behind the scenes they had frequent clashes with Paradox and the game was still really fucking rough 3 years into development, with Hardsuit incompetence making Paradox decide to scrap the whole thing and start again with a new studio.

current one is TCR who have only ever done Walking Sims so they had to hire a bunch of new staff experienced in making actual videogames for this onet-
Compared to Hardsuit's, this one has seemingly being smooth sailing for most of its development with the only problem being major rewrites last year, however due to being a walking sim studio they've streamlined everything to an absurd level, leaving it as more of an action game with light RPG mechanics than anything resembling the original game.

>>720394048
Not really.

>you have to pay $30 to unlock two more clans
>no Malks
>no nosferatu
Yeah, this is a cash grab alright

>>720391957 (OP)
Former VTMB2 hater here, I changed my mind after playing the game. It is simultaneously a return to form and nothing like the original(and that is a good thing). It is refreshing playing a game with a strong female lead who also shows vulnerability.

>>720394805
The first game barely scratched the surface if the Tabletops elements and cut lots of stuff. I do not give a fuck about somehow working in numerical abstractions.

>>720398627
share your build mate

>>720394223
Yes

>>720392921
/v/ is infested with marketers and devs trying to shill their games

>>720391957 (OP)
Post steam discount codes marketer and I'll buy

>>720391957 (OP)
Oh no blastsisters I’m not feeling so well.

>>720398627
Current vtmb2 enjoyer here, I downloaded a mod that scales up every female characters cup size up by two letters

Now I can finally goon in peace

>>720392921
>There is one vtmb thread.
>There are 40 threads about current thing tm.
You're retarded

>>720400841
NTA, but why would devs shill on 4chan of all places? This place is a hellhole with barely any videogames discussions on it.

>>720405961
>Devs wouldn't shill on 4chan!
Anyone that says this is either a shill themselves or so genuinely naive that they're borderline retarded. The phrase "viral marketing" started getting used in fucking 2009 when Gearbox endlessly shilled Borderlands 1 here.

>>720404990
>There is one vtmb thread.
after the other that just died

>>720406480
Well I wasn't here back then so IDK. No harm in asking.

>>720397182
I don't think the Hardsuit Labs version was faithful to the original at all
I've seen all the trailers and could only feel disgust, even though the RPG was definitely there. But something was deeply wrong with the art direction, atmosphere and characters.
This one by the chinese on the other hand feels...less vomit inducing? Aside from some shit assets like the unisex clothes which are clearly a remnant from the Hardsuit version, there's nothing offensive about it. The downside is it's gonna be an action game with barely any RPG elements. Worse, a substanceless nostalgia grab with a VTMB coat to lure fags.
What I do not understand is why this game needs to be "faithful" to Bloodlines in the first place. It's a different setting, a different story, and is going to be released in a very different time than the early 2000s.
They never should have tried catching B1's soul because they simply can't do so. It is a product of its time, coming from the lives of the devs involved with it. I guess modern devs have no lives or culture so they need to copy?
Vampires are many things and themes in World of Darkness, it's not just Bloodlines lol.
VTMB2 should have been VTMB if done today. It should have talked about war and genocide. The ubiquity of social media and the pandemic madness. The absolute hilarity of kine and kindred istitutions. And the absolute horror of living among all this paranoia and ever-increasing control. But they have no balls to make a game that shits on everyone like VTMB. Not even GTA and Postal do that anymore.

Is this game gonna have multiplayer?

>>720407260
What makes you think it ever would?

The art/lighting direction is absolutely gorgeous. My primary concern is length because I did hear a rumour they split it into the VTM equivalent of "side with UNATCO" and "side with NSF" with different quests for each.

>>720398581
Fabien is a Malkavian. He's a reworked version of the planned Malk story DLC protag.

>>720404990
>just ignore the constant spam and attempt to make a general
>it’s nothing
>I mean the threads stay up for over 12 hours regularly despite little activity and it’s always just one retards spamming shit and talking to himself but it’s nothing
Fuck off.

>>720405961
4chan is the meme hub of the internet. All that comes through here gets spread out across everywhere else. There is a lot of influence.
>This place is a hellhole with barely any videogames discussions on it
And that is mostly the fault of shills and other faggots raiding and spamming on the board while the mods do nothing.

>>720407868
No one wants faggian you fucking idiot. No one cares about him but you. Stop trying to act like he is in any way close to what people say they want when they say they want to play as a Malk. He fucking sucks.

>>720407724
Looks like shit and you’re paid to say this.

>>720408309
I think Fabien is cool.

>>720408387
Imagine being this in denial. Game looks amazing visually. Great soundtrack, too.

>>720408309
What's your issue with him?

>>720408832
>>720409015
It’s just another UE5 slop game. Fuck off back and cry about your trash there.

>>720409063
>19:48:57
>19:49:58
You shilling this trash and samefagging just to do it.

Watch it get 87 on Metacritic.

>>720409120
What engine would you have preferred they use?

>>720409182
What's your issue with him?

>>720409942
inb4 Source

>>720391957 (OP)
Can you guys please stop perverting a term so innocent as "having a blast?" Thank you

>>720410454
I knew a guy whose neck recently had a blast. ;^)

>>720392921
mentally ill

>>720394198
do we know who the main writers is for the TCR version of bloodlines 2?
I thought Still Wakes the Deep did a decent job with it's charecters and writing

>>720410778
>wrongthinker!
Fuck you eat shit, so go fuck and neck yourself, faggot.

>>720411004
like i said mentally ill, seek help anon

>>720410778
>>720411137
>mentally ill
Literally, who asked you and why should anybody care?

>>720411137
>>720410778
>like i said
No one cares or asked, faggot.

>>720409942
>>720410006
Why is it that you’ll cry that I’m crazy for calling you out and then blatantly samefag like this?

>>720410778
I know you are. You’re literally pretending to be multiple people while talking to yourself and have been for months.

>>720393047
>>Is there really no inventory?
>Nope
Friggin WHAT?
Didn't they make a big deal about equippable outfits?
And what about weapons? Are they hearkening back to the source engine roots and just giving you a frigging HL2 style scrolling weapon select?
Why would you have no inventory in a fucking RPG. Wtf.

>>720411137
Why do you act as if random people magically care about your thoughts and feelings?

>>720410880
Ian Thomas took over as lead writer.

>>720411862
No version of VTMB2 ever had an inventory.

>>720391957 (OP)
A return to foam

>>720411709
What engine would you prefer?

>>720413163
It's not a return to form. It's a radical reinvisioning of Bloodlines.

>>720413617
Fuck off samefagging spic.

>>720413682
A return to form indeed.

>>720391957 (OP)
>great atmosphere
I actually dislike The Chinese Room's version of Seattle. If there's one thing Hardsuit Labs got right it was their version of the map/overworld. I much prefer that version of what the game looked like, and the snowy setting less so, better atmosphere imo. Could have become memorable if they had attached a good game to it. This looks forgettable and doesn't even look like Seattle if I'm being completely honest.

>>720413038
1. Not what I asked
2. Like fuck we know anything about the proper gameplay of the aborted versions

>>720414956
>Didn't they make a big deal about equippable outfits?
Outfits are unlocked with disciplines and purely cosmetic
Your weapons are your fists and your powers. You can also use telekinesis to shoot guns and throw objects at people.
>Like fuck we know anything about the proper gameplay of the aborted versions
They showed off the gameplay. Melee weapons and guns were temporary-use. The former would eventually break, the latter would get discarded after you ran out of bullets.

>>720411862
No inventory. No weapons.
This is a shitty action game wearing the skin of a VTM RPG.

>>720417594
>Outfits and purely cosmetic
Not exactly. There's no stats attached, but outfits seem attached to a social descriptor that makes people react differently depending on what you're wearing. Useful for hunting and the leveling subsystem attached.
Seems there's some variations in conversations with other vampires too (although I've never seen Tolly react positively to any outfit, which bothers me since that passage was the one posted in dev diary about NPCs reacting to your outfit).

>>720407724
>"The art/lighting direction is absolutely gorgeous" template

You can't get the original atmosphere back because it has something to do with source engine and its lighting. Case example of VTMB looking both similar to how Cry of Fear looks, and GMOD steam workshop maps of gritty urban scenes (pic rel).

New game lacks atmosphere because advancements in lighting can't replicate it. Plus they didn't really bother with urban decay or making it look seedy. The way VTMB looks is all engine and lighting technique tied.

I'm here for my government assigned vamp gf

Can someone make a V:tM-B thread for me? The first game, I mean. I have to wait like 300 seconds to make a thread and I really don't want to wait and I also don't want to talk about this trash when the better game exists.

>>720410006
>Taunting the player by not letting them play a popular clan
>THEN having a retarded fucking OC Donut Steel Gary Stu faggot having acces to the clan that YOU don't have access to
>All while claiming the clan is "technically" playable :^)
Can you get this concept through your fucking skull, you retarded shill?

>>720424892
you could have let this thread die you know
or been a bit wiser
>>720424054
I guess you will have to wait those 300 seconds anon

>>720424892
But you ARE Fabien.

>>720425686
The player charater is the nomad

>>720425178
>>720425686
>you could have let this thread die
No, these threads stay up for hours because paradox bought up fucking ad time. So your ass has to spam one a day and then stay here to suck off this trash. An no matter what it won’t be deleted until you reach the designated amount of time. This shit has been called out multiple times.

>>720425967
so your strategy... is to bump it?

>>720426094
Considering it going to stay up anyway and you’re going to keep bumping it yeah. But the fact you have to cry and basically beg me to stop every fucking thread shows that I’m having an effect. I mean seriously you keep asking the same question and it’s addressed in the screencap.
>inb4 what screencap
The one that you seethe over and reply to multiple times whenever it gets posted because it calls you out and shows evidence of your pathetic behavior.

Will Skillup recommend it?

>>720425686
Lord Fabien, you mean.

The controversial question - from everything we’ve seen what version looked better
>Hardsuit
+Kept skills
+Was planning on keeping weapons (in inventory)
-Looked janky
-You play as a thinblood

>TCR
+Disciplines look more fun to use
+Looks more polished
-Got rid of skills
-No inventory

It’s a linear action game now, this will be to bloodlines what sacred 3 was to sacred.

I just care about someone leaking the hardsuit labs build of the game once this trashfire comes out and is forgotten in a week.

>>720429196
HSL's had no inventory. It was specifically designed to stop you collecting and using weapons. TCR just took that idea further.

>>720429248
It's open world and you can do sidequests in any order though. So a better comparison is VTMB1.

Reddit LOVES VtMB2 now after the moderator suddenly changed, despite shitting on the game for years.

>>720430154
I always knew Wesp was a Paradox shill.

>>720422416
she cute

>>720430154
Paradox allowed a bunch of youtubers to release playthroughs of the opening act and it shut a lot of haters up. Some are still coping and refusing to watch any of the footage.

>>720393946
> The Darkness but made by Dear Esther devs
Alright, I'll pirate.
>>720429196
Feels like Hardsuit's version would've been a far greater disappointment judging purely by how bad the development cycle has been. Sending the game's build to your publisher in shuffled unnamed RAR files is some serious bullshit even if they were bad to you. TCR has a steady track record (even if it's just 6-7/10 games) and can improve if Still Wakes the Deep is any indication, so at least they can make a good release even despite the clan bullshit.
As for the gameplay itself, I actually liked VTMB's gameplay from start to finish as a non-combat Toreador with the exception of the Chinese Fish. I even liked the Warrens: slicing the cunts with a sword in a swing or two and watching them ragdoll away is nice. I like "old" imsim design where you have to stand still to aim, but can improve it with stats. However, for me it feels like Hardsuit's version didn't have the oomph from VTMB1 where a single shotgun blast could send someone flying even without killing them outright. Not much work has also been done on improving Bloodlines' formula. There's a door out there and you can only do Lockpick 1: from what I've seen, no bloodbuff, no keys, no way to punch the door out with a discipline, whatever, like it would be a bad 2004 imsim but also be a bad 2019 imsim. TCR's decision to make a tolerable full action game instead feels like a downgrade, but at least it looks a bit better even if it's simpler and holding guns via telekinesis is fucking stupid, why would they do that shit.

>>720391957 (OP)
no you didn't kike

NIGGER SHILL

I thought I told you to fuck off yesterday. No one will play your travesty of a game that has nothing to do with bloodlines.

>New goalpost is comparing a finished shit game with a canceled pre alpha

Go be gay somewhere else. No one will like this dishonored at home trash no matter how much you shill.

>>720430469
The Hardsuit game was made by people who literally had no idea how to make the game they'd promised. Everything they showed was a fake vertical slice where nothing really worked properly and it crashed all the time.

>>720430456
They're literally defending Phyre's name now.

>>720430778
Only idiots ever complained.

>ITT Shills talking amongst themselves
Each and every one of you is a joke. Imagine doung this for or a living or for free even.
'Pathetic' doesn't even begin to describe you.

>>720430895
I know what you are.

THIS IS NOW A THREAD ABOUT TRAINS

Speaking of Phyre, Ysabella calls you "little flame" when she first meets you. She knows something you don't know...

>>720431262
Nice of you to mention, but yes train used to run on fire or rather steam generated by the fire.

>>720431336
But there was also this bad boy

>>720430994
> no quest log
> no character creation
> no guns
Come on, you can actually watch the gameplay footage.
https://youtu.be/UKvWJc5v4Ts?si=uv5DduUub0Z0zQgO

>>720431392
And who could forget this red rocket on its way to fist your fucking mom OP

>>720431203
>>720431336
>>720431392
>>720431424
Hell yeah I love trains. Especially steam locomotives. I wish they were still in fashion.

>>720431424
We used to dream and make cool shit. Nowdays we're stuck with deranged copies of copies desecrated for quick profit by retards like TCR

>>720431512
Is this Sovietic?

>>720431481
Me too anon. There's just something extremely chill about steam locomotives.

Also pic related looks cool as fuck

>>720430469
>TCR has a steady track record
Amnesia a Machine for Pigs is not a steady track record, this was largely considered to be in the eyes of frictional games fans to be a game that soured what could have been a great franchise. Although Frictional only ever really actually recovered on The Bunker. Why is it so obvious that Paradox pay people like you to spout this nonsense? You're constantly overselling them when there is no confidence in anything they've ever made. To say you think Hardsuit labs wasn't up to the job is one thing in which I'm sure some people could agree with, but then trying to sell their merits specifically is what I take issue with.

>>720431527
French actually.

Tbh I'm just googling 'cool trains'. This is more fun than I expected. Thanks OP

Crazy there haven't been more leaks.

>>720431553
Awesome welded windows on this. Sleek but industrial.

>>720431601
Anon I've got some sleek shit for you right here

>>720431589
A Machine for Pigs is the only good Amnesia game. The other games are mid survival horror games with shit stories. Unfortunately VTMB2's lead writer wrote Rebirth, not A Machine for Pigs.

>>720431654
What happened to trains! Why can't they look like this anymore....

>>720431654
I would wear all of these trains as an armor. This design is amazing

>>720431695
>What happened to trains! Why can't they look like this anymore....
Mostly because we live in a world with 'people' like OP.

You don't hate them enough. They are the enemy of creativity and free spirit.

>>720391957 (OP)
I beat its a real RETURN TO FORM

>>720431704
Guy goes to work in a full suit to wave flags all day. Nowadays people cant even be bothered to get dressed in sweatpants.

>>720431784
I know anon. These times are trying to say the least

This one is for my steam enjoyers

>>720431820
We were so close to perfection

>randomly slapping what looks like a jet engine onto a train
Man the past must have been awesome

>>720431875
Must have been quite the sight back then

>>720431917
Pretty impressive.

Even the simple ones look cool

>>720432059
The conclusion I am reaching is that globalised mass manufacture was a mistake.

a blast of another man's cum in your ass maybe

>>720391957 (OP)
Did they cleanse it of all the woke shit though?

What a cute snoot this on has.

I want you to realize OP that no one wants you hear. You're transparent and a fucking retard.

5 minutes of train posting immediately shit on your thread. So fuck off.

>>720431662
>A Machine for Pigs is the only good Amnesia game
I'm sure about 0% of fans agree with you on that one, Paradox shill.
>Unfortunately VTMB2's lead writer wrote Rebirth, not A Machine for Pigs
Chinese Room made that whole shitty game, aside from just writing Rebirth. It had nothing to do with Frictional Games at all and was outsourced entirely. Aside from the case of Rebirth of which Frictional were developing that trash and stained their actual studio name for a first time.

>>720432149
only way to do that is to pick the uninstall wizard class

>>720432193
What does it do?

>>720429196
>-You play as a thinblood
This wasn't at all a negative for me: It would've been a neat setup for your weak state in the tutorial (not even a full vampire yet) and it could've even had an in-game segment for choosing your clan: You picking a bottom tier fucko from the clan you want, hunting them down and diablerizing them. Thus also giving your character some infamy and setting you apart from the rest of (vampire) society, which games love.
I'll agree that
-Got rid of skills
is bullshit though.

>>720432223
Of course Amnesia fans are in denial about the games being bad. They're fans.

>blatant shilling
>nothing being done about it

>>720391957 (OP)
a RETURN TO FORM

>>720411862
There is equipable outfit6s when you unlock skills in each clan you get the outfit and the outfits affect how people speak to you.
You can still customize the char with accesories and hairstyle but its all done in a customization tab, not inventory.
As for guns, you use telekenisis to use them, they seem like one and done items in the world.

>>720393878
>>720393950
From what I can tell of the demo gameplays, like that anon said, if you look at the map there are specific locations you can enter, then I guess quest related there are interior locations you go to, hotels, warehouses, apartments.
idk if you can enter them freely before or after.

pic related is the map

>>720394251
I am interested in it and it suits the season where I can get comfy while playing it, but I would wait for more raw gameplay

>>720433850
Nigger no one here talks like this. How bad can you be at your shill job?

>>720433850
My Indian untouchable. Please stop the shill speak.

>>720433787
is that all the map or are there diffrent hubs like in the orginal Bloodlines?

>>720434151
Think that is the map. All I know is from gameplay I have seen on YT though.
I suppose the map itself doesnt show the scale and obviously there are side streets and alleys not on the map.

>>720434027
>>720434113
Safefag retard being retarded

>>720434270
I look forward to the day your filthy indian pakistani whatever caste gets wiped off the planet. You're a scourge upon the planet.

>>720433787
You can visit anywhere but the vampires tell you to go see the prince first. Vampires aren't supposed to wander cities without permission.
>>720434151
It has 5 districts on the map. Chinatown, downtown, and some other ones.

>>720433270
And you're just a paid shill by Paradox and anyone can comb through archives and come to this conclusion about how much marketing you've done for them. The Chinese room vs. Hardsuit Labs webm was probably your handwork and it shows a long pattern over the past couple of months in board history of this year of blatant and constant shilling. It disgusts me that Paradox goes to such lengths to organise people like this, it could be unpaid and it still wouldn't matter.

God these threads are fun.

>>720434352
idk the VtM lore desu senpai, it will be the first VtM game I will play.
I have the 1st VtMB on my backlog but never had the inclination to play it.
I like the look of this game because it looks kind of im sim like, with dishonored like magic powers and the snow setting and noir story sounds comfy for the season.
Hopefully I enjoy the whole vampire stuff and get interested in the lore because I know the 1st game is a cult classic, but the IP has loads of games made, even if a lot of them are low quality.

>>720434343
>Literal ESL browny who cant into english trying to LARP as a white

>>720434519
Seething

>>720434549
>with dishonored like magic powers
Ohh yeah I checked the powers on the website and it has actual dishonored abilities in the game.
Blink, bend time, wide eye and possession

>>720434632
Stop talking to yourself

>>720391957 (OP)
no you didn't

>>720434797
>being this retarded

>>720391957 (OP)
Anon, you think you're paid to shill [game], but you're not... you're advertising conraception, sterilization, abortion, euthanasia and chatbots.

>>720434890
You can cry whatever cope you want. But that won’t change reality. Stop talking to yourself.

>>720391957 (OP)
>A BLAST
a euphemism for explosive diarrhea?

>>720391957 (OP)
It's going to be complete utter shit, not even the good type shit or the bad type shit, just mediocre easy-to-forget type of shit
the game would be better changing it name from bloodlines to something else, this is like releasing fallout: new vegas 2 but the developers are retards from bethesda

Hope this makes you feel comfy in your game OP

OP here, nobody actually pays me, I just do this because I enjoy seeing /v/tards seethe

>>720435334
>a-actaully I’m trolling
You tried this shit before and had a tantrum when no one believed you

>>720435334
people in my hood have been shanked for less
watch yourself, you've been warned

>>720434352
Will Chinatown still be filled with weird Asian Vampires this time?

>>720435527
No, they're normal vampires but asian.

>>720435440
>>720435453
He's probably seething and asking his pooperviser during their shit eating lunchbreak how to handle situation.

I'm sure they haven't updated the script in ages.

>>720435634
No they’re not, they don’t drink blood and rot in sunlight.

>>720411862
>a frigging HL2 style scrolling weapon select
no, first game had that
this one is more like mirror's edge but more retarded

>>720435779
Those got retconned. Bow you just have asian vampires.

>>720434549
>I like the look of this game because it looks kind of im sim like, with dishonored like magic powers and the snow setting and noir story sounds comfy for the season.
It looks like your marketing script has an error written within it. Isn't the whole point of using the imm sim buzzword about it not being linear? you might want to consult your supervisor in a discord call because he's writing down the wrong things for you to say.

>>720433240
that character is faggot shit by someone about two steps away from killing mommy to wear her skin and finally make the fantasy REAL

>>720436082
VTMB2 is open world.

>>720436062
So no more Kuei-Jin? That’s fucking gay.

>>720436062
if characters from Bloodlines are showing up in this game(which might have just been the HSL version), how do they explain all the Kuei-jin stuff in the original Bloodlines?

>>720436252
Yeah but what does Open World have to do with the buzz word you used? you sound like Phil Spencer when he described Redfall as being IMMERSIVE. Like What the fuck is your point? I'm not someone who entertains it as a real design philosophy. But even by the standards of those who consider it to be a design philosophy you're not even meeting their own definition of what a imm sim is. They wouldn't describe a linear in structure game like this to be it.

>>720431820
Very cool look but where was the windshield for the conductor?

>>720436419
The game has imsim-like elements but it's really not a proper imsim. (Nor was the first game.)

VTMB2 is more of a Dark Messiah/Dishonored-lite kinda game than Deus Ex-like.

>>720436274
They just don't mention it at all.

There are clearly systems-driven elements in BL2, but the game doesn't draw attention to them. For example, you get cascading chaos when you get into an argument in public, the person attacks you, then the police shoot them. You have a bunch of disciplines with overlapping effects where you manipulate NPCs to do things like attack each other or jump off builidings. You can chop off any NPC's head and use it as a weapon. All dead bodies can be used as human shields.

But it's a game where you have to kill all the ghouls in the lobby of the tower to proceed. It doesn't, for instance, let you call the cops on them.

>>720436647
Ah yes, compare it to other games that people want to play unlike this piece of shit
>I-it's a... uh better game-lite!
>yeah uh... systems driven... emergent
Call up the supervisor again.

>>720434352
>lying
Why

>>720408251
this hasnt been the case since like 2011 or 2012, dont kid yourself lmao

>>720436251
Still haven't found a substitute able to replace that good ol' satanic panic-high, eh?

>>720436274
Kuei-jin have been memory-holed for over a decade.

>>720391957 (OP)

I have to imagine the developers or publishers know that this amount of schilling would have a negative impact on the game, so I imagine it's people who are doing this intentionally to troll it at this point.

>>720437138
Paradox stream showed them visiting pawn shop and biker bar, and the vampires gently advised them.

>>720437243
>Thai cuisine

>>720438170
Sounds more like a "not allowed to wander the streets without being properly informed about rules nor the lay of the land" kind of thing.
Vampires generally dislike unpredictable variables and chaotic actors.

>>720438273
the root of all evil

>>720438060
Unironically the shilling made me go from "mite buy it if half decentish but not vtmb tho" to "will never buy even if it was the last game on earth". You can't gaslight VTMB 1 players into liking your piece of shit game and ignoring their lying eyes that lie that tell them it's shit.

You should make amend, be humble, say you're sorry but the game had a hard development cycle but it's still fun, admit that it should have been renamed into something else than VTMB because it doesn't follow VTMB at all but you couldn't do it for contract reasons, but it's still a decent vampire experience.

>>720438809

Honestly I wouldn't even need them to do that, just make the best game they can, release it without nonsense, and let the game speak for itself at this point, especially if its any kind of fun or has any kind of atmosphere. Trying to convince people that it's really a Bloodlines 2 instead of what seems to be it's own thing would do more harm than good at this point.

>>720392891
Oof are you going to be disappointed..

>>720437243
>LYCANTROPHY: The Rape
Games for this feel?

>>720439307
You're (wilfully?) misunderstanding: Noone's Halo 2-hyped anymore, not in today's environment and economy. But hopefully optimistic about getting an enjoyable, if flawed, experience out of a game in a cool setting with decent-ish visuals? Sure thing.

>>720438809
There are probably numerous copycats mimicking him for free (You)s at this point, but the blatant shilling really was a big turn off. Fucker couldn't even bother to lurk for a bit so that he could at least somewhat imitate an anon. It pushed me from having no expectations at all from the game to actively anticipating the train wreck.

>>720391957 (OP)
How's the optimisation? Can it be played on integrated graphics laptops

>>720432149
Iirc they removed the pronouns stuff

>>720440485
Why the fuck would you do that with any game ever?

>>720440628
Because I haven't played a single modern game since 2014 but I'm interested in this (and in Elder scrolls VI but that's far)

>>720440491
The Pronoun soup was never in the actual game. It was a marketing and HR thing. You can tell whenever a writer or a programmer is in a development video. It's just an aspect of corporate America these days.

>>720438060
Eventually you'll realize that marketing isn't trying to sell you shit games, but that shit games sell you marketing, i.e.: pad traffic and engagement -- they are little more than onboarding schemes to consultation rackets, e-grifting parasocialites and digitial daycare-botfarms.
The industry has been captured by PR gremlins. These PR gremlins cultivate an unsustainable economy of lies: they sell problems, rent out solutions (marginally smaller problems) and deceive everyone -- shareholders, developers, customers and players. They don't care about the quality or reception of the product, they don't care about what you believe, love or hate and they don't care to convince you of anything. The more controversy, the better for them.

Their final goal however is to distract and placate you, while high finance (read: their owners, banksters) turns your passions and lifetime into vacuous commodities.

>be PR gremlins
>gaslight publisher into whipping developers into frenzy to create super-slop
>gobble up the majority of the "development" budget, recommend hiring nepotists
>proliferate more slop to e-grifting parasocialites to fan the flames; hype a product you know will fail miserably, gaslight customers and shareholders with predatory marketing
>reinvest a fraction of your hyper-bloated budget and buy copies through subsidaries and at a discount to gaslight everyone some more, after padding stats shortterm refund to ruin them longterm
>simultaneousely shill for and against the product to maximize controversy and thus traffic, engagement and demand of your service and that of your buisness partners, such as consultation rackets
>eventually come out of it being the sole profiteer, blaming everyone else

In other words: if you're a shareholder of a publisher or developer studio instead of an investor to a marketing agency, then you are a barely functional lobotomite.

I heard some noises about a Bloodlines 2 Switch 2 port. Wonder if it'll show up today.

Is he talking to himself?

>>720441974
Who?

All that anti-shilling is way too inorganic. Probably some discord raid.

>>720403459
Why here though

>>720442037
>discord raid
We already know it's one retard, just like the shill, neither of them ever changes their way of writing.

>>720441421
I think it's really funny how society was super conscious of pronouns for a bit, then it was never mentioned again.

>>720442037
>All that anti-shilling is way too inorganic
Back at it again are we?

what's the worse idea?
>Zoomer Thinblood. Somehow doesn't know how to reload a gun
Or
>Boomer Elder that refuses to wield a weapon like a normal person

>>720442130
Probable.

>>720442601
I was just being facetious.
You paranoid fucks make me a weird combination of sad and amused.

>>720443181
Honestly, while I'm still not enthused about no inventory, I have to say the idea of playing an elder who just refuses to touch weapons as if those where beneath them can be somewhat funny with the proper frame of mind.
The thinblood version makes me think more of the old "(shotgun) wizard, no sense of right or wrong" comic, completely uncaring more than incapable. "That one is empty? Who cares, there's more where it came from"...

>>720398023
you can't fool me, one of those posts was typed on ur itoddler.

>>720438364
You're an unknown vamp and must present yourself. Once that's done you can do sidequests.

>>720441421
The Hardsuit version absolutely had pronoun stuff and quest trigger warnings and all that.

>>720443865
they always warn you about shit being in them quest but they never ever warn you about there being kino ... curious!

>>720391957 (OP)
>HAD A BLAST
Now that you openly lied to start a thread, what are you going to do next?

>>720443865
Trigger Warnings are so fucking gay
Just call them disclaimers and people would not have any issue with them.

>>720444169
Hardsuit were also gonna let you skip any mission you thought might be triggering. 2020 was a very strange time.

>>720444358
...what kimd of subhuman retard plays a game about being an inhuman monster then skips all the bad parts?

>>720443181
Unpopular opinion:
I think think thinbloods are a cooler character concept than some faggot (((elder))) any day of the week. They're in a dangerous and unknown world that they'll have to adapt to by trial and error... or massive amounts of tact and caution. They know they're at the literal bottom of the ladder so they'll have to be clever and resourceful to stand a chance, but they're also very natural at home in human society and can use tricks and deceptions that some methuselah nigger couldn't even dream of:
>manage to track down a high generation haven
>SWAT it during the day and throw molotovs into the place while police is raiding it (have ghouls do so if you can't handle the sunlight)
There's also a possible benefit to be gained from thinbloods' weak blood and lack of ptency and powers: Not having a fully manifested or very mild clan weakness. For some clans this is huge (picrel) and allows them blend in better, Lasombra et al, while at the same being a major social faux pas (and/or cause for termination) in vampire society.

>>720444358
>2020 was a very strange time.
It's still going on. You're crazy if you think woke faggots are going to stop projecting their faggotry, They'll continue until every last one of them is stripped of their employment.

>>720444667
Seems kinda meta. "Thinbloods good because it's less like being a Vampire". Alright but it's a vampire game. I WANT to feel like a supernatural freak

>>720444750
>Claims I'm dividing everything up between left or right
>Never once mentioned left wing or right wing
I guess I struck a nerve.

>>720444667
I think thinblood makes for a good story. I actually liked the premise of the HSL game, because it was heavily hinted to involve diablerie. A freshly embraced thinblood story would obviously involve the journey from the human to inhumane, as you get more and more involved and diablerize people. That's what VTM is to at least.

Playing as a elder could be fun, but this one is far too humane and I don't like that it is not a rpg. No stats, no buy.

>>720445017
Oh, but there are ways for that too...

>>720445632
Yeah but then you're just playing as if you're a regular vampire after the first Diablerie

>had a blast
>dabbled with the latest build
>got to play it at the booth of the latest con
>shaping up to be great

>>720444581
THERE IS NO PLACE FOR FASCISTS ON THIS TABLE

>>720445632
>Anarch Elder Raid
Huh?

>>720445632
>Firearms: 0
>Melee: 1
>STR: 2
>Fortitude: ZERO
How the f u c k did this lady survive and attain Goddamn 8th generation? Is she pic related?

>>720403459
true, but making fun of them is something i enjoy. Knowing that they are trying to influence me while I laugh in their face is always funny

daily reminder, if you shill your SJW faggot game all you are doing is giving me free entertainment at your expense. No one is buying is buying your trash lol

>>720444667
I think playing as a thinblood that diablerizes (?) other vampires is a cool and natural concept that lends itself to the progression of a videogame. I'm not against being an elder but the other option sounds more rewarding in the long run.

>>720394251
>using nigger to act like you are one of us

you're a faggot game dev shill OR you are a low IQ genetic trash slave

either way kill yourself. You have no standards and are part of the gaming problem. You need to be eliminated. now

>>720445632
>Le quirky diablerist Anarch omg so quirky
Oh, fuck off. Even among Anarchs, diablerie is the last thing you advertise. It's the biggest fucking taboo. In fact it's pretty much excuse for instant unlife termination. The life expectancy of le quirky diablerist anarch is exactly 30 seconds top, and most of that is deciding which method should be used to kill.

It's a retarded character concept. It's like playing a "le quirky general serial murdering trooper" in a military RPG, but that's ok, you only murdered "6 generals" on tape and they never found out it was you. It makes no sense.

>>720448367
Meds. Now.

>>720394251
>the game has le heckin' wholesum SNOWARIO! THAT'S COMFORT COREARNIO!! I'M BUYING THE $90 SPECIAL EDITION
You people are subhuman