Thread 720392152

Unreal Engine 5 and it's consequences have been a disaster for gaming

>>720392152 (OP)
developers should be forced at gunpoint to optimize their games.

>>720392446
Developers should be forced to use a engine that doesn't suck AND optimize their games.

With what hardware?

>>720392152 (OP)
>>720392446
>>720392658
You can easily get Borderlands 4 to run @ 144fps with DLSS & frame gen.

>>720392152 (OP)
Borderlands 4 indentifies as a well optimized game, you stupid bigots!

Borderlands 2 was released 13 years ago. Of course it'll run better than a game released today.

>>720392803
I don't fucking want DLSS and framegen, I'm tired of vaseline dogshit plaguing these games.

>>720392803
Frame Gen isn't real frames. So yes. You can easily tell your computer to lie to you.
A game shouldn't have it's issues fixed with the incorporation of stronger hardware. It's issues should be fixed on a software level. And as it stands UE5 is unequivocal garbage that not even the creators of the damn thing can get running smoothly.

>>720393156
Lumen will fix that

>>720393087
Borderlands 4 barely looks any better, it's a fucking cartoon cell shaded game there is no reason for it to be asking modern hardware, shit could have been done in UE4 and get the exact same graphics.

>>720392152 (OP)
>games that were going to be ass anyway are ass

>>720393248
the more you buy, the more you save!

>>720392152 (OP)
Borderlands peaked with Krieg.

>>720392446
Games shouldn't even be allowed for sale on storefronts unless they pass some kind of minimum standard (i.e. their own stated/advertised system requirements).

>>720392803
>puts my tv's smooth motion on
WOW ALL GAMES RUN AT 120FPS

>>720392446
Here's your optimized game bro
>that's be $119.99 plus tip

>>720393027
are those two trannies?

not sure why absolute cucks are making excuses for the poor optimization. there are better looking games on iphone a 4060 should get like 300 fps

>>720393274
Lumen is laggy ghosting garbage too

>>720394125
Idk, but It's a Gearbox game, so probably.

>>720394339
Works for me

Is she in?

>>720392152 (OP)
>it's
>'

>Robocop comes out and it's unoptimized
>IT'S THE DEVS FAULT
>Oblivion comes out and it's unoptimized
>IT'S THE DEVS FAULT
>Metal Gear Delta comes out and it's unoptimized
>IT'S THE DEVS FAULT
>Borderlands 4 comes out and it's unoptimized
>IT'S THE DEVS FAULT
It's time to apologize to him, he was right

>>720392446
Firing squads can enforce ethics, but can't bring programming skill.

>>720393156
But TAA produces more blur than DLSS. Actually I can't even tell any blur above performance.

>>720397704
worst of all the listed games are just an example, every single fucking UE5 runs like ass.

>>720392152 (OP)
Unreal Engine is just a part of the problem. The main problem is that game studios have gotten to big, corporate, and bloated that they now can't handle their engines. They keep hiring H1B jeets to fix the problem but all they do is make it worse. This is the end result. If AAA does not learn, they won't, then indies and AAs will take over and begin a new age of proprietary engines.

>>720392446
>optimize the render pipeline
>I don't know how!
>blam

>>720392803
Hi Randy

>>720392152 (OP)
Friendly reminder ALL game studios are switching to this engine.
TOTAL
INDUSTRY
CRASH

>>720392152 (OP)
Yeah I am amazed how many retards use this engine

>>720392152 (OP)
>they picked realistic shading over readability, particles and contrast
sovvlless indeed.

And the worst is most of the devs are just using UE5.

With that I am not gonna get myself a RX9060XT or RTX5060Ti.
You cannot even play full details at FHD now in several games.
No, fake frame shit is literally garbage marketing.

There are actually people playing Borderlands? These people exist?

>>720392152 (OP)
My favorite thing and reason I upgrades my graphics card was borderlands 2 and the Nvidia physx stuff. But much like anything I really think is cool it no longer is a thing.

>>720392658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ

>>720392152 (OP)
I asked two days ago how in the fuck does this turd have such high system requirements and all the shills started shouting at me saying I don't know shit, fucking lmao

>>720392152 (OP)
Njewdia and lil Tim strike back again, leaving devs and publishers in SHAMBLES!

>>720393087
You say "of course", but in actuality something they fucked up in 2's rendering pipeline makes it so on hardware newer than the game itself you get horrific performance issues- as low as 20fps in certain places on certain setups- which is why everyone evangelizes modding it onto vulkan first thing after installation.

>>720392446
>>720392658
>people should be forced to [insert something i want]
how about you stop paying for things you don't want you fucking retards?

>>720401623
the only one in shambles are ayymd owners, unironically on suicide watch.

>>720402435
BUTTERY SMOOTH 26 FPS

>>720392152 (OP)
Ray Tracing (formally God Rays and "RTX On") is what kills games, not the actual game engine. Boarderlands 2 was before Ray Tracing was "required".

>use same shitty computer for both games
>new game runs slower than old game
woooooooow

>>720403097
>game looks the same
>it HAS to run worse because it's newer!

>>720392152 (OP)
I don't really get why they seem like they regret Borderlands and are just using the IP to sell a looter shooter while slowly warping it into something else.

>>720403097
This type of people really hurts my brain.
You're an actual zombie if you look at a image of a literal PS3 game that runs on a GTX 560 and looks the same as the new game that needs a 3000 dolar card to run at 60fps native.

>>720402435
>everything with DLSS enabled
>AMD doesn't even get cope FSR enabled
hm...

>>720403693
yeah the ps3 game looks better

>>720392152 (OP)
>blaming Unreal and Epic for bad developer practices

>>720404058
>t. definitely not Timmy Tencent

>>720392446
>>720392658
>developers should be forced
I mean they kinda are, this game cost 300mil if not more to make and its such a disaster that nobody should be playing it meanwhile the steam numbers have surpassed silksong

>>720404276
>steam numbers
They have not actually. Unless you mean concurrent as of right now?

>>720404156
Let me give you a piece of advice. When working with Unreal Engine 5, all the fancy features Epic offers are functionally alien methods to go about doing things. If you just apply them thinking it's a magic performance boost and your assets aren't built for them and your levels aren't expressly designed around the methodology they embody, you will destroy your game. At least until you swallow your pride and go back in and unfuck everything. If you ever do. I mean, fuck those peasants, right? If they want more than 20 FPS let them shell out $2000 for a high end GPU. Everyone will just blame the engine anyway.

What's the deal with Unreal Engine 5? Everyone hates it but devs keep using it anyway.

>>720404992
there's probably a great deal of vidya shareholders pocketing bribes from epic to make their slavestudios use it

>>720404992
>>720405232
A lot of the people in charge most likely don't even know about unreal five and its problems, the ol do the developers even play their own game situation. Whats the current engine? unreal five? Yea use that why wouldn't we?

>>720403152
>>720403693
>being so blind and retarded you genuinely think blands 4 looks the same as blands 2
Tell your mother you need bifocals.

>>720404992
It's a readily available engine that's "feature complete" and standardizing it across studios and games means that they can hire a revolving door of cheap labour that's gone through standardized training. That's why even CDPR is abandoning their own engine (that made a game that looks and runs better than UE5) in favour of adopting UE5. So they could hire random people and get them to work instead of teaching them how to use their own inhouse engine they actually understand all the intricacies of.

>>720392658
It's not the engines fault you fucktard.
You're the reason developers get away with their bullshit.

>Players will blame it on the engine anyway so we don't need to optimize

fucking kill yourself

>>720392152 (OP)
Why are you nigs pretending to be shocked? This is moddern gaming: game is made for a decade old console and then lazily ported over to the pc eith no optimization or basic features