Thread 720418119

Here's a first world problem for you:
Let's say you're a PC gamer and you want to play an old game.
You have the option of playing the PC port or emulating the console version. Which do you choose?

>>720418119 (OP)
the pc version is 90% of the time better, and when it isn't you usually can mod it to make it the best

>>720418119 (OP)
Depends entirely on the game.

>>720418483
What if you're ignorant about version differences, which one do you impulsively pick?

Whichever is easiest. The ease vs the pros/cons will determine my choice.

>>720418119 (OP)
emulate it. pc port will most likely be terrible, and unless it had a ton of community support, the console version will function better.

>>720418587
I google which version is the best

>>720418587
>What if you're ignorant about version difference
Then I look up what the version differences are, because we have the fucking internet.

>>720418119 (OP)
Depends on the game, I usually look into them. Like Silent Hill 4 has certain haunting missing from the PC version, the PC version of Spiderman the Movie is rancid ass, etc Emus are also a lot easier to just pick up and play instead of dicking around with mods

>>720418119 (OP)
ps2 era emulated, its a pain in the ass to get those shitty 2000s ports working

>>720418225
This, but I'd bump it to 99%.
I can think 1-3 alternaitves, ever, that have been better than the PC version.

>>720418747
>Like Silent Hill 4 has certain haunting missing from the PC version
GOG updated it in march this year, they brought them back

>>720418674
>>720418746
The game is too obscure so you can't find a direct answer. The versions look identical based on low res videos from 15 years ago. Now what?

obviously the pc version that runs natively because it will almost certainly be more stable and have more graphic settings designed for pc? how is this even a serious question?

>>720418119 (OP)
PC Gaming Wiki is extremely useful for that, they usually point out if the PC version is missing something from console versions, and if it has mods to bring those things, along with mods to improve the version
Every time I play an old PC game I use it

6th gen ports to pc were god awful.

>>720418828
Nice, thanks for the info.

>>720418869
I make a thread on 4chan calling one of the versions abominable dogshit and wait for some anon to reply to me with all the differences.

>>720418994
>they usually point out if the PC version is missing something from console versions
I occasionally contribute to the PCGW. I don't keep track of what's going on behind the scenes, but I learned that it's no longer acceptable to list version differences on pages. Instead they have version differences compiled on ONE BIG PAGE.
It's not even automatically generated, what the fuck?
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_PC_games_with_features_removed_compared_to_their_console_versions

>>720418869
I'd decide based on the game, for example, if it's a western game that released first on PC it's probably the best way to play, but if it's an older japanese game that got a PC port developed by a complete different team years later, the port is probably dogshit

>>720418869
>low res videos from 15 years ago
15 years was 2010 and 1080p was already standard you FUCK

>>720419161
Yeah, but then I move the goalpost further with some other arbitrary bullshit until you give a satisfactory answer to my dumb hypothetical question.

>>720419161
>Uh teacher, it doesn't matter when train A meets train B, I'll just drive my car

With the exceptions of some western multiplats, most PC ports of 6th console games were downright terrible and could range from either being a bit downgraded and lacking in visual effects or local multiplayer like GTA: SA, to outright near unplayable shit like the sourcenext RE4 and DMC3 PC ports.
The PS360 is when companies REALLY started taking PC gaming seriously.

>>720419231
That’s dumb as fuck. I feel like making an account just to add the PC version of Saints Row 2 is missing DLC.

>>720418869
>2010
if it's from the 7th gen, probably the pc port. if it's from the 6th gen, the xbox/gamecube/pc ports are probably missing a ton of post processing, so emulation.

>>720419372
Except your question is being answered, dumbass. How do you choose which version? By looking up which fucking version is the better one, asshole.

>>720419231
>it's no longer acceptable to list version differences on pages
are you sure? games like dmc5, sh4, mgr, blood omen, etc all are still listing them

>>720419385
Never mind, I see it’s listed under “Missing multiple things”. Really bad port, kek.

>>720418119 (OP)
If you're on linux it's easy to run old pc games. Idk about windows

>>720418119 (OP)
I've played enough shitty old PC ports of console games to know they're usually terrible 50% of the time

Hit and Run has mods, sure, but it's based on the GameCube release and has some graphical features missing since it's stuck on DirectX 8 by default. Emulators also usually have better controller support while you're usually stuck with workarounds for pre-360 era gamepad support.

>>720419372
since i have an NTSC region console, i don't know what a 'train' is

>>720419478
Some pages still have them, but I've had my edits reverted by a mod on pages they're watching.
The entire "key points" section is getting phased out.

>>720419231
i genuinely cannot understand any reason why this would have been a good idea to change every page on the fucking site. i don't get it

>>720419701
that's retarded

>>720418119 (OP)
i'd be a massive tool if i didn't get the pc version, it has the FREE simpsons collectible trading card

>>720418119 (OP)
>constant meddling from both Fox and Vivendi
>had a heavily rushed development cycle
>the GameCube port was done by literally one fucking guy in a few weeks
>still managed to create one of the greatest licensed games ever
How the fuck did they do it?

>>720419231
PCGW used to have a Port Report section. Guess where they got the idea from and why they had to drop the concept.

>>720421817
>Guess where they got the idea from and why they had to drop the concept.
Can you explain?
Maybe I'm dumb but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

>>720418119 (OP)
>emulating the console version. Which do you choose?
it depends but when it comes to PS1,2 games like the silent hill games and the final fantasy games 100% emulation. they work flawlessly with a simple click and they retain the original aesthetic. it's been brought up so many times but i think the pc ports are a blurred out abomination.

>>720418794
>>720418225
this

>>720418119 (OP)
Playing emulator will NEVER be the same as playing on a real console zoomer

>>720423738
there's a mod to restore the transparent textures from the ps2 version
actually there's another mod to restore every single texture to their ps2 counterpart

>>720422043
I want to say digital foundry wants that monopolized

>>720418119 (OP)
I just play whatever is easier to set up

>>720423898
>there's a mod
i hate you guys. you are like jehova's witnesses of gaming.

>>720418483
This. The PC port for Hit n Run is sorely lacking, but the RE4 port is pretty good and the definitive version with the HD mod for example.

>>720424484
it's a solution, that makes the pc version flawless, if you want to ignore it, I don't care and you're free to do it

>>720424593
What’s wrong with the PC port of Hit and Run? Was gonna replay it soon, but I actually have it sitting on my Xbox’s hard drive so I could play it there lol

>>720424593
Shame it took them 7 years to replace the Sourcenext port with said HD re-port

>>720424813
PC version is just missing a ton of stuff that had to be restored with mods, the Xbox version is considered the best OOTB release
https://tcrf.net/The_Simpsons:_Hit_&_Run#Console_to_PC_Changes

>>720424813
It's ass to play with a controller. You'll see.

>>720424753
>it's a solution
it's usually some half assed buggy attempt by anons who did this in their free time. hardly anything you can depend up.

It really does depend entirely on the game. Like that old Evil Dead resident evil style game has a terrible PC port. So bad it's better to just emulate. Meanwhile tons of old games work great on PC or are preferable, especially with mods like the Resident Evil games with their Classic Rebirth mods or the Enhanced Editions of Silent Hill

pc with fan patch

>>720418119 (OP)
It would take an unbelievably bad port for me to go emulating a multiplat game, assuming no user-made fixes on Github or something resolve most of the problems or even get it complete parity. Going to guess something like SR2 might be feasible to emulate the 360 version at this point since Volition clearly wanted IdolNinja rolling in his grave.

>>720424981
Man, looking at that list again just reminds me how weirdly chopped up the PC version is. Missing shadows, reduced draw distance, even basic car damage effects just gone. It's like they were actively trying to make it worse. No wonder modders had to resurrect it from the grave. If you're not emulating on Xbox or at least slapping the Mod Launcher and the Restoration mod on PC, you're playing a neutered version.

Does the console version have superior graphics/effects that aren't on the PC version and can't be modded into said PC version?

Does the console version have surround sound that is impossible to get working on modern computers due to sound card faggotry from the 90's/2000's? (This is really fucking common if you're a surround sound autist like me)

Does it have exclusive content that isn't just skins?

If any of those 3 are a yes I usually try to emulate the games instead of a janky PC port.

>>720419231
>I occasionally contribute to the PCGW. I don't keep track of what's going on behind the scenes, but I learned that it's no longer acceptable to list version differences on pages. Instead they have version differences compiled on ONE BIG PAGE.
Fucking retarded that was really useful when looking at games
I used it to play some DLC maps that some of the arkham games only had on the PS3/4 version and then went back to PC for everything else

>>720418119 (OP)
If it is an old enough game then the PC port is usually the better version because back in the before times they built games for Pc then crippled them to console standards so everyone go the best their system of choice was capable of.

>>720419161
This. You don't ask a question because that gets nothing. You state something completely and obviously wrong as if it was the absolute truth and wait for someone to "correct" you. Then you get the answer you were after.

>>720418225
Depends on how niche and how old. Non popular games from the PS2 era or before that got a PC port didn't usually get the best treatment

>>720418119 (OP)
simpsons hit and run pc with the lucas launcher, im surprised this thread is so dogshit with the recommendations

>>720418869
>uhh what if this
>but what if this
>BUT WHAT IF... THIS
nigger you got your fucking answer.

>>720428637
A lot of this is just DirectX 8. Same thing with the Silent Hill 2 PC port where real time shadows are almost entirely missing.

>>720418225
Rayman 2 proves this

>>720418119 (OP)
It's very dependent on the game, but I'm more likely to end up emulating.

>The GameCube version of GUN is the ONLY version to run @60fps, even the PC port has major issues when trying NG to mod the 30fps cap. PS2 and 360 are locked 30.
Should I play this version over the 360 or PC? Seems weird as fuck