Thread 720432649

From now on, no one can ever attain the status of "beat the game" ever again. Enjoy your nerfs for babies

but i have already got to act 3 and bought all the stuffs from npcs
this doesn't affect me

>snitch pick was bugged
>fixed in the newest patch
>but you have to play easy mode
FUCK ME

>>720432649 (OP)
>still seething that 'normies' will now finish this ULTRA HARD game
>can't wear it as badge of honor now
lel faggot

>>720432649 (OP)
Fuck, I thought I had time before the patch drops. I still haven't bought the game.

>>720433352
It's called normalfags, tourist. And they all already dropped the game and watched the rest on youtube

>>720432649 (OP)
>it's another rainworld circlejerking
wew

Guess I'll never attempt to play it then.

>>720432649 (OP)
>From now on, no one can ever attain the status of "beat the game" ever again
just play the unpatched game, retard

Neither of the bosses they nerfed were hard anyway.

>>720433517
How?

>>720432649 (OP)
Well I beat those bosses but now I gotta beat the rest before the shitters catch up and start seething about not being able to continue again

>>720432649 (OP)
Why the fuck do they keep nerfing the same fucking bosses?
Splinter Sister is a fucking joke
Moorwing is easy

>>720432649 (OP)
I pirated it so I can play on the original difficulty ^__^

>>720432649 (OP)
>moorwing and sister splinter
Anon, if you haven’t beaten them already, it was definitively over before it even began.
This should be lighting a fire under your ass to get good before anything else gets nerfed.

Nice. Games are for relax

>>720433537
what do you mean how?
are you actually retarded or something?

>>720433582
>desperately trying to prove how hardcore you are before they get nerfed
lmao

>>720433582
Keep nerfing?
It's the first patch, anon.
This is the first time they nerfed anything.

>spend 7 years making a Newgrounds Metroidvania
>still need massive week 1 patches

>>720433630
>he doesn't actually have any idea how to unpatch the game and is just going "haha you don't know"
Thanks for conceding.

>>720433708
What the fuck do you mean unpatch?
Holy shit zoomers really are tech illiterate huh?
Download this and boom, wow unpatched game.
How fucking hard was that?
I swear to god ipad kid generation must be the most retarded one yet, even the boomers who literally have gallons of lead in their brains are not this brainded.

>>720433563
It’s ok anon, the judge and widow will continue acting as filters until they get nerfed too.
How the fuck the widow is filtering anyone is beyond me, since it’s the easiest boss of act 1 by a mile, but apparently it is.

Heh, dumb gaymers are beta testing this for me so I can buy the finished edition at a cheaper price later

>>720433794
>DUDE I LE PIRATE LOOK AT ME LOOK PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION
Pirates really are vegans

>>720433832
Pirate how?
Are you fucking retarded?
This is the version you get when you buy it on gog.

>>720433832
Gog version you stupid fuck.

>>720432649 (OP)
oh no! an unachieved unfuckable shoe-size-IQ person online thinks I cannot claim to have completed the game after a patch!

games are electronic toys, not a replacement for real life achievements; they are experiences to be had, not challenges to beat, you sad shallow miniscule subhuman

>>720432649 (OP)
I have a standalone unpatched installer. OP is a faget, as usual.
Also i have just lost the game.

>>720434012
uh oh, having a melty cause you never beat the game

>>720434012
THE GAME
YOU DIDN’T BEAT IT
WE CAME

>>720434012
You have no achievements, no bitches and no game to beat.
But I did beat the game. Ergo I am OBJECTIVELY a better person than you.

>Unity
You didn't develop the game.

The fact these cocksuckers took away the float override just makes the game harder, I finally got the cursed ending after hours and hours and hours of attempts but it was only harder since I started again today after I had to work around needing to fucking double jump before using float to maintain a safe placement.

>>720434256
git gud

>>720433693
>that
>massive
lol,
lmao

>>720432649 (OP)
I've been refighting Moorwing and Sister Splinter after the patch and honestly I don't see the difference. Maybe Moorwing is a bit slower?

>achievements
I pirate my games, than buy it on discount

If they really wanted to make normalniggers beat the game, they'd remove most of the 2 mask damage. Luckily, devs are mostly too proud to make such massive changes based on shitter feedback

>>720432649 (OP)
>cut down on pointless tedium
Good.

Your videogayme """achievements""" don't impress or matter to anybody btw.

>>720432649 (OP)
I already beat those bosses + played through blasted steps.

>>720434368
>make a one mask damage mode
>you can only get the bad ending if you play it
That would be some top banter

im so sick of this trend of devs being terrified of sticking to vision and patching any sort of friction on week 1 because some fomo shitters complained
as if the people complaining havent already moved on to the next fotw already

>>720434469
cool it with the antisemitic remark, anon. they need to make their game accessible to normalfags for sales and accolades

>>720432649 (OP)
Ok now nobody will whine about the difficulty anymore, right? Or will they keep begging until everything is baby mode?

>>720432649 (OP)
I've already accidentally cheesed Moorwing anyway. The dumb fly got stuck in a corner and did nothing.

"I beat it before the nerf" bros, what is your response?

>>720433804
Technically the sand carvers change is an act 3 nerf because they're present in sands of karak and you have to go back there for act 3. I don't think people at that stage are falling into the sand, though. You have too many get out of jail free jumps by then.

>>720434256
Float override was fucking me hard in wisp thicket. That said I can definitely see some useful applications of it.

>>720434591
The nerfs are only for two early bosses and a hazard. People are still going to whine about Last Judge, High Halls, Mount Fay, Bilewater and what have you.

>>720432649 (OP)
lol gitgudfags got btfo

>>720434663
Are people really cheesing it? It's not even hard

>>720434729
I accidentally walked into the boss while at 1 HP, noticed nothing kept me from just leaving, so I went back to the bench and noticed it getting stuck on the way back
I did 1 attempt where I looked at all the attacks, and then just cheesed it with the method I found cause I like fun

>>720434469
Funny thing is they actually buffed some bosses in the first game because people complained they were too easy.
Nosk got a new attack because people noticed you could dodge everything the first version did by hugging the ledge beneath him as he ran at you.
Traitor Lord's damage got increased to 2 masks from 1 because he seemed like a total pushover compared to other bosses at that stage of the game.

>>720433832
this is the most retarded person who has ever lived. I feel bad for his parents, may he never reproduce

What are the best tools? I found the darts, spear, and traps so far but none of them seem to do a lot of damage

>>720434469
>>720434521
>p-please don't patch teh gayme mr developer how am I going to brag about my gaymur cred that nobody cares about on an anonymous forum if gayme is not hardcore enough :-----(

>>720434256
>>720434690
Float override should probably be a toggleable option. There's stuff that's easier without it like Flea Bounce minigame but there are also a few platforming sections that forced double jump ironically makes slightly trickier.

>>720434663
I also beat all the nerfed bosses before the patch. This doesn't affect me.
Also, I didn't even find them that hard. But I can definitely feel the difficulty going up since widow and judge.
And judge's desperation attack/self destruction actually got me once.

Faggots will keep whining on their discord server and twitter until every major "difficulty spike" is smoothed out, they could just add a story mode where everything deals half mask damage with boss checkpoints instead of tweakikng the main build

>>720434879
poison+flea flask

>>720433389
You're the one who cares about "muh cheevos!" or whatever the fuck, you underage retard.

if you would consult the comic

Had to kill moorwing with default crest because reaper chappel is bugged in unpatched version
I imagine it would have been easier fight with longer reach

>>720434938
People play this for the story?

>>720432649 (OP)
WaitCHADS keep winning over and over and over.
Cheaper games
All the bugfixes
More content
Non retarded balance

>>720435015
>comic

>>720433832
This is the kind of retard who can't even navigate folders on a PC and has 10 duplicate shortcuts on his Acer Aspire laptop.
Zoomers are as tech-illiterate as Boomers.

>>720435021
Yeah normalfags only care about HK because of the deep lore or some shit, it's weird.

>>720435018
That's just not right, you could get reaper crest before moorwing pre-nerf

>>720435028
I will continue to WAITCHAD even after this patch, because I'm WAITING for modders to make a save-anywhere mod like the one for Hollow Knight 1.
Fuck pathing back to bosses

>>720435018
Huh? I got Reaper in the chapel just fine and used it for Moorwing
Hell, you can even see me having Reaper active here >>720434663

>>720435018
It was random I think, I had no problem with the chapel

>>720435021
They don't play it for the gameplay if they're bitching about every boss, the levels between the boss, the combat encounters in every level, platforming in every level, etc.

>>720434304
Yeah, what did they actually change? Does anyone know?

>>720435095
You could if one of snippers didn't decide to glitch out. And it happens very often, I got that bug multiple times then had to look up how to fix that shit.

>>720435108
That sounds neat. I think a quick checkpoint system you can set yourself like Ori would also work nice.

>>720432649 (OP)
Well I pirated so I'd have to re-download for these patches.
but I already beat sister splinter and Moorwing. They're not good bosses.
Sister splinter only has 1 attack and the devs just spawn vines and enemies.
Moore wing is cheap projectiles and a charge attack.

There's nothing special or well designed about these fights/ they're not even good fights. they didn't put much effort into them either so why are you treating them like some sacred shit?

>>720435350
They removed that in 2 and IIRC you simply have absolute fuckloads of checkpoints so if you die you respawn 1 screen away

>>720432649 (OP)
>letting your game update
lmfao tards. i'll be playing the vanilla experience all the way through. feels bad for all the idiots who let their game update.

>>720434663
I beat him with my bro, Bug Quixote.

>>720435460
I saw somebody mention that, how do you do it? I found the guy and tlaked to him but he didn't have a quest or anything

>>720435435
Yeah they went with a different system there. I really don't get why some modern devs are so hellbend on making you rewalk through stuff you already did like it's a NES/arcade game, but also don't limit your lives to put some actual value behind it. It's just being annoying for the sake of it.

>>720435486
You have to find him a second time and he'll ask if you want help in the fight.

>>720435537
Find him a second time? He is quite literally 2 screens away from that boss fight, where could he possibly have gone by the time I reach it?

piratekek opinions are just worth less

>>720435486
I think you need to encounter Moorwing first, then die or run away. Then when you run into him, you can tell him its location and he asks if you want help.

>>720435559
Like one screen away, lol.

>>720434256
When they announced it I thought it sounded terrible but after finishing everything I realised I used it maybe 5 times and it fucked me over probably 50.
A toggle would be better, but it's probably been a massive source of confusion in kaizo areas for players who didn't know it existed and I can understand why they'd decide it's better off than on.

well thank god i didnt buy it day 0

>>720435460
he still doesn't make the fight much faster.
the bug must get more HP when he's there.

>>720435015
idgi, wouldn't the existance of a hard mode give even more bragging rights to those that beat it?

>>720435417
>Pirating a game the devs priced at $20 and didn't give early access to game journos.
Buy this game you fucking idiot. You need to support stuff like this if you want to see change in the industry.

>>720434469
There's two (2) testers listed in the credits.

But I bet this is secretly a marketing move to deal with the 2hard launch backlash with some token changes.
It'd be hilarious if I'm right and they didn't actually change anything.

>>720435709
They stole everything from Dank Souls, makes sense they'd steal the increased boss HP when using a summon

>>720433832
sounds like you will never beat the game

>>720435716
the game is selling like hotcakes I'm sure that they'll do fine without pirate-anon's support

>>720435709
He just does fuck-all damage. Find a safe spot and watch him try to fight void critters in act 3. You'll be there a while.

>>720435716
if the game had better art and was animated at a smooth frame rate I'd consider it.

>>720435716
Had to save up for borderlands 4 instead

>>720435958
I wonder if there's really people who are poor enough they have to save up to afford a video bem

>>720434879
You'll get lots more, just keep exploring. The trap is insanely useful for some enemy gauntlets if you use it with a certain charm and there's also tool pouch upgrades that increase damage.

>>720436139
>tool pouch upgrades that increase damage
I thought the pouch upgrade just increases capacity

>you can press the right analog stick down to perform a taunt that provokes flying enemies into coming closer
WTF

>>720436161
There are two pouch upgrade lines, one for capacity, one for tool damage.

>>720436249
That's insanely helpful, thanks

Does this mean there's no way to float before double jumping now?

>>720434879
Objective best is the clockwork bugs, they're ridiculous.
Traps are fantastic when you get them, and tacks when they show up are very strong for grounded enemies.
Grenade is powerful/expensive hp nuke.

Others are up to taste and how far away what you're fighting is. But even the weakest ones hit as hard as your sword, and you get like 20 of shit like the basic/triple daggers, so even if they're not crazy they're still invaluable for nailing shit out of reach when it matters.

>>720436394
>nailing shit out of reach
*laughs in shaman*

>>720436326
Was there a way before?

>>720433832
You got them good kek

>>720436487
;)

>>720432649 (OP)
Why didn't they just add those changes into an "easy mode" option instead?

>>720436545
Normalniggers want games to have 0 challenge but get offended when they have to play easy mode, for some reason

>>720434663
Beat the game
>>720435460
Did not beat the game
Please learn the difference

>>720433186
It's not even good. It just gives you some of the rewards upfront. You still get exactly the same total rosaries and shards after beating an enemy as without it.

>>720436463
Yeah, holding down and jumping in the air triggered float without double jumping

>>720436463
Yes, and you did it accidentally a bunch of times when you were at karak/flea games/surface ascent and died thinking your controller was broken.

>>720436463
Press down+jump midair

>>720435460
Same

>>720436545
Probably because the changes they made aren't even noticeable, let alone large enough to justify an entirely different difficulty level?

>>720436636
>>720436637
>>720436652
oh cool, i had no idea
i have the pre-patch version so i'll see if i can sequence break some stuff with this

Wait, do you not get anything for beating Shakra?
I guess they already frontloaded the reward with the subweapon, but I was expecting a little something more.

>>720436794
Then why make those changes?

>>720436580
I was under the impression that the "game needs an easy mode" would be pleased with such options existing, my only complaint so far is the need for a few more open shortcuts or checkpoints, because sometimes running back to a boss feels like Dark Souls 2.

>>720436825
Did you kill her or just duel her?

>>720436892
Duel, I guess. I didn't think you could kill her. I don't think I even want to.

>>720435716
I don't give a fuck
just pirated it two more times

>>720436040
You mean poor of character enough to actually buy Borderlands 4. Eww.

>>720436978
Pretty sure the thief quest to take her out during the fight doesn't even trigger until she has no more maps to give, so there's no reason not to.

>>720435716
i wanted to buy but couldn't because le based devs wanted no preorders and crashed every store
so i just pirated it, no fucks given

Don't care. Still beaten the game. Still brag about.

>>720436812
not really, the only thing you really gain from being able to skip the double jump is LESS height on jumps.

>>720437094
there was a quest to kill shakra?

>>720435015
why is forsen like this

>>720437147
they wouldn't patch it if it wasn't some game breaking stuff
so i'm sure someone did something unintended with it which is why they bothered to fix it

>>720437259
Yeah, Metroidvania devs and HK devs especially really hate sequence breaks and totally don't build the entire game around them

>>720432649 (OP)
enjoy your sad lonely life with the momentary glory of completing a video game

>>720437259
Apparently it's because people were fat fingering the combo while trying to pogo and thought it was a bug, so they just removed it.
I wish they hadn't. Sometimes I just want to go directly into a float instead of double jumping into ceiling spikes.

>>720437259
they patched it because it was fucking annoying, had zero practical use, and fucked you up infinitely more than you actually used it.

>>720434256
I don't understand why either, I even used it in the final mister mushroom area to first glide somewhere and then double jump, instead of using the harpoon, to conserve some silk as healing instead of using it for the platforming
why did they take my tech away

>>720432649 (OP)
Patching difficulty after release is such a fucking stupid game design philosophy. Just add easy mode in the first place instead of making the hard version of your game nonexistent.

>>720437349
you can just use clawline.
>>720437363
>maintaining silk during parkour
weavelight exists explicitly for this purpose.

the duel on Mt fay has to be the shittiest and boring fight in the game

Doesn't matter. I already 100% the game.

>>720437426
>you can just use clawline.
Not if you don't have any silk.

What's the difference between the Silkshots? I know the Mt. Fay one is the best from what I see people saying, but is it just damage or the way the projectiles work?

>>720437259
It's because it was fucking over players who didn't know about it more than it helped.
If you're mixing double jumps in with pogos there were situations where you'd have to actively avoid holding down through the whole thing. They were probably flooded with bug reports about jumps/floats being inconsistent.

Useful feature with an unfortunate button combo, but not so useful it would have been worth putting the text in flashing red letters or whatever to remind players it exists.

>>720437461
weavelight. it makes the first pip generate faster than you could possibly use with the grapple.

I'm not sure I have the willpower to do mount fay

>>720437426
how will weavelight help me with storing a heal

>>720437480
One's a railgun, the other is an smg and the other is a shotgun, from what I've gathered.

>>720432649 (OP)
Not my problem.

>>720434469
>trend of devs being terrified of sticking to vision
Artificial difficulty is the trend, retard. The devs are trend chasing niggers that made their game too hard on purpose knowing this shit generates streamer engagement and insecure people will run free damage control for them.
This was a cynical decision from the get go, you idiots are just 3 years behind the curve because your NPC programming hasn't updated yet. Soon hating "hard" games will become hip and cool again and you will be parroting that shit just like you do now.

>>720437426
There are use cases to jump directly into a float in combat and it's completely free, taking away hidden mechanics is dumb rather than letting shitters who can't play the game properly disable it in options

>Sister Splinter had to be nerfed
The absolute state of modern gamers.

>>720437521
simple:
it is parkour.
git gud.

>>720437548
>Soon hating "hard" games will become hip and cool again
>again
It never was, zoomie

>>720432649 (OP)
I am way past Moorwing and Sister Splinter, so this patch will have little impact on me

>>720437548
Too bad Silksong isn't a particularly difficult game.

The only game that I can think of deserving called "artifical difficulty" is meme-shit like IWBTG, remnants from coin-paid arcade era like Contra and faggy tryhard but still actual game shit like Ninja Gaiden Black.

Ok, I understand the Groal shit now. This really is a display of all of Silksong's worst features.

>>720437572
it took me less tries to beat widow and first sinner than sister splinter. if that doesnt say everything you need to know about add bosses then i dont know what to tell you.

>>720437519
I wish I had this thing 20 hours ago.

>>720437385
It's a good marketing strategy though when your weird ass fanbase is forcibly reminded their fanart subreddit is based on an actual game they suddenly have to play and recoils at the idea of any kind of challenge.

If they can get back any percentage of the casuals who were scared off by throwing out a token patch that nerfs a couple early bosses that were easy as fuck anyway, that's millions of dollarydoos

>>720437742
You can just instakill her adds with silk spear

>>720437768
Yeah, I had trouble with Sister Splinter until I started using silk for skills instead of healing, and then she went down the next try.

>>720437742
>spoiler
that's kinda funny but I suppose it just goes to show certain fight styles fit certain people's playstyles better

>>720437534
>>720437480
I got the railgun and while it's strong, it's slow enough that I only ever used it on a couple bosses.
So take one of the others if it sounds better for your playstyle; I doubt there's a solid best one outside of DPS comparisons that don't take into account spending an opening getting a shot off vs repositioning to do something else.

>>720437569
A toggle would obviously be better.
I'd bet they just wanted to rush out a solution to bug reports ASAP and it'll end up in the options screen once they're sure they haven't broken the UI.

>all these zoomerfags not knowing about the steam depot downloader
We are doomed

>>720437961
Uh that sounds like hacker/pirate shit which we all know is also tranny shit so shan't be touching it
This post is satirical which shouldn't have to be mentioned but someone will take it seriously

Mount Fay makes me wish there was a suicide button

>>720437961
I paid thousands of dollars for my steam library, I'm not risking a ban with some external tool

>>720438035
use the claw grip thing and it's not hard

>>720433601
this lol, imagine buying the game and you cant even beat it

>>720437845
yeah im very much a "KILLKILL KILL KILL IT NNOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!" player.
love fights where i can bumrush the boss and weave through the slim openings in their attacks to unleash a flurry of my own.
hate the "ok i took my one strike attack turn, now i'll wait for your turn to end so that i can do a single strike again!" bosses where you cant really approach for 90% of the fight because they could give you a no tell melee attack at any moment.
main wanderer.
permanently slotted: silkspeed, sharpdart, and weighted belt.

The problem is that it's not a good enough game to justify putting time into it.

>>720438172
Nobody asked for your blog

>>720432649 (OP)
>- Removed float override input (down + jump, after player has Faydown Cloak).
This is beyond fucking terrible. Now the double jump is a genuine downgrade in a lot of respects.
It's fucking terrible.

Here I was hoping they'd update it to work with diagonal down as well as just down. And instead they fucking remove it altogether so that you can't float or airstall without first going through your fucking double jump?
Also have you ever tried how fucking awkward it is to go through some of the earlier platforming segments where the game expects you to have the float but not the double jump, if you don't use the down+jump option. If you don't awkwardly delay your double jump a bunch chances are good you'll send yourself up into the ceiling spikes instead. But now you'll have to do it to even be able to do the hover at all. It ruins the fucking flow of the platforming super fucking hard.
And not being able to hover and then double jump afterwards just means that the double jump is nowhere near as much as an upgrade as it used to be so now it's a way less of an impressive upgrade to begin with. While having downgraded the reliability and utility of the float was one of your strongest abilities.

That's so fucking awkward. So, so fucking awkward.
Just because retarded fucking casuals can't let go of down before jumping when pogoing when they want to double jump?

>- Reduction in damage from Sandcarvers.
Also. Making the sandpits just deal 1 damage is complete fucking baby shit. Are they going to nerf lava to deal 1 damage too?
Why even have pitfalls that deal damage whatsoever? Why have any tension to any of the platforming challenges?
Complete and utter baby shit.


I genuinely think or at least thought that Silksong is (or was at least) genuinely fucking amazing. But these changes are off to a terrible, terrible fucking start. And it's not like I'm a fan of the other changes of the patch either.

>>720438207
silksong is a videogame i like.
i will talk about the videogame i like on the videogame board and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>720438236
git gud

>>720438207
I did and I'm wating for more.

>>720437607
Were you actually born yesterday? Even zoomers remember the PS3/X360 era of baby-mode games, now try and think why and how that happened.

>>720437698
It's harder than it should be, the mechanics are too simple to warrant this kind of difficulty which forces more precise play without adding much depth. Dying to trash mobs in 3 hits doesn't make the game hard, it just forces most people to play like a pussy which bloats the playtime and lets the devs get away with shorter less substantial games
"Artificial difficulty" doesn't mean the game is hard, it means the game uses bad game design to make it appear harder and/or waste time.
Vanilla metroidvanias are baby games. Silksong is a baby game masquerading as a moderately difficult game by using every artificial difficulty trick in the book.
I 1CCd every Touhou game btw

>>720437961
Zoomers do not know how to use their PCs.

>>720438236
Git gud at platforming

>reduction in damage
i agree, sandworms should be instakill i think

>>720438281
>if i'm dogshit at a game, it means the difficulty was artificial and doesn't count

lol

>>720438236
you sound like a redditor, and the spacing implies the same

>>720438371
Why would her pussy and nips glow blue? She's clearly a red coded character. They'd be a perky rose color.

>>720438425
Lifeblood overdose

>>720438321
>no this game isn't harder than it should be, you just suck

I want Team Cherry to be interviewed and forced to answer why these quests have shit like "Get 35 of an item".

>>720438458
Nigga you're writing entire paragraphs seething about how bad you are

>>720433832
>doens't know what an offline instalelr is

What a lost generation zoomer are, holy shit.

>>720438471
because you get 5 every time you kill something

>>720437742
Yeah same. I think I died more to moorwing and splinter than all the act 2 bosses combined.

>press f4 to fill your health
>press f5 to add 1000 rosaries
>press f6 to add 1000 tool shit
>press f11 to have energy autofill each 2 seconds
Yep, it's silksong time.

>>720432649 (OP)
i still have the release version i pirated 5 minutes after release

>>720438538
just turn on invincibility bro

>>720438207
What're you gonna do about it, cry? Piss your pants maybe?

>>720438569
I'm not using overpowered cheats

>>720438549
have you played it

>>720432649 (OP)
>nerfing difficulty
Thankfully I already beat these bosses with no difficulty

>>720438549
thou i spend only a couple of hours on it, cant really force to play it more, maybe next week when im in the mood for story slop again, playing games without youtube is very boring

>>720432649 (OP)
Is there a way I can roll back the patch? I want to play the original but my shit auto updated

>>720438628
No I just pirate every newly released game and brag about it. I only really play gachas

>>720438604
refill with f4 is the same thing because nothing one shots you

>>720438035
yeah I like kaizo shit but it's unpolished crap that reflects the devs huffing their farts over how many times players will die over blind jump memorisation bullshit and enemy spacing based around tool length rather than the player position after using the tool. They also don't prime the player on certain interaction info before sending you there which is 101 shit. On-the-spot synthesis is fine but not mid-way into a course you have to plot out under a timer (which adds nothing besides forced resets while mapping the blind shit because you have plenty of time once you know the way and never have to make any decisions about faster strategies).

Parts of it are actually worse because they DIDN'T cover everything in spikes so you just have to sit there and slowly freeze because they allowed unrecoverable situations that don't kill you; I've seen better design flow in children's Games Factory games circa 1999

turns out I'm still mad. originally this post was a couple of tips but my userscript ate my post so I'm being mad instead

the rest of the game rules but fuck that mountain

>>720438490
>insecure people will run free damage control for them
I was talking about you btw

>>720438628
only a couple of hours, im not in the mood for it now, maybe ill play it later, i only beat the bell beast boss and the ant boss with big club

>>720432649 (OP)
I never encountered moorwing during act1 so idk what thats like. Act2 arena is large and flat so it was very easy.
Splinter wasnt that bad either, the runback was like 2 seconds too

>>720433832
You don't belong here.

>>720438684
You're still seething

>>720438258
>>720438276
>>720438586
Why did you reply to him 3 times?

>>720438720
seethe.

>>720438720
oh did i, yeah?

>>720438720
Damn you caught me. Good eye

>>720438710
And you're mad people are shitting on your latest bandwagon, what's your point?

>>720438826
>n-no u
I didn't write multiple paragraphs about how I totally didn't get filtered. No more (you)s cause you're getting too angry

>>720438826
You don't understand bro, he needs the pushover early game boss to be harder for people he will never meet or interact with because he just does, ok? It's very important to his self esteem

>>720438813
my favorite one of these i did was editing ever bit of text to have (you) appended to it, even the date.
shame i didnt keep the image around.

>>720438538
>Have to f6 every few boss attempts
It's not worth it. Wait for a mod that removes shards entirely.

>>720438860
Yeah you didn't write multiple paragraphs because you can't. Not a single original thought in that NPC head of yours, only meme 1-liners.

>>720438860
>No more (you)s cause you're getting too angry
OH NONONO HE'S ABSOLUTELY BOILING NOW

I think Rabi-Ribi kinda raised my expectations too high for other games of similar genre, will Silksong be able to match it?

hooray
i, an uninvolved shitposting bystander, have ruined the thread

>>720438945
No, play Ori instead

>>720438569
That would too OP. Using F4 key to heal makes me move to use the keyboard. So i still try to no lose life.

>>720438641
answer me right now niggas I would pirate it but I already own it on steam

>Radiance dragged into the void
>everything is fine
>Silk dragged into the void
>doomsday scenario ensues
Am I supposed to believe the Pale King was competent?

>>720432649 (OP)
I don't get the moorwing hate, I'm trash and still found him far easier than most other bosses.

>>720433527
It's about the backtracking really, there's no issue retrying a boss if it only takes a few seconds, the fun and adrenaline don't have time to wither.
I used the teleport mod for that and bosses didn't feel hard, I just had a non-stop fun patterns learning time.

creep

>>720437548
game's copying dark souls frfr

>>720434012
I'm not even playing this but you didn't and will never beat the game

>>720432649 (OP)
>>720432649 (OP)
I don't really care that much about two non-issue early bosses getting trifling nerfs to a couple of their attacks.

How are the economy changes so far? That's the stuff that could actually impact the entire game in a significant way.

I just reached the citadel and found out that those big bells were keys to the gate and i missed one in greymoor so back there i go.
Those note patches are just bug fixes and economy upgrade then right? The only difficulty they have touched was moorwing and sister splinter?

the fuck did I miss?

>>720433352
Normalfags will not beat the game. Ever.
The true final boss is the hardest boss in the game, it will never happen.

>>720438886
>the two tools-related mods so far just gives infinite ammo at all times, breaking the balance
Sucks. At least one that makes Anklets cost no silk popped up.

>Hornet's original theme gets played during the prison sequence

IMAGINE MISSING OUT ON KINO LMAL

>>720439457
It's not even just about difficulty, no one ever finishes their fucking vidya
Every single game has <50% completion rate for the "finish the game" achievement
Journey has 46.3% and that game is literally 90 minutes long

Beast = Witch > Hunter > Wanderer > Shaman > Architect >R*aper

>>720439450
check your "collect all X" achivos

I would like to know the exact number changes on the two bosses and the rosery changes. I am just simply curious.

>>720439557
>R*aper

>>720439557
>what if I just invert the entire list to be contrarian?

>>720439162
Can't be mad at him.
Hornet should be able to disrobe in the spa

>>720439018
pale king had to do it the way he did because radiance isnt even physical.
silk is also an example of a god lashing out with the last of their will, and why you cant carelessly just throw one into the angry fluid pit. radiance had to be beat down by a void shade while restrained by multiple others.
silk was just thrown into the pit, which left her with the strength to have her gigamelty, and the will to do it in the form of her child being stuck with her.
put radiance under similar circumstances and the dream god is going to become a very sudden and very problematic physical monstrosity emerging from the depths in a beam of wrathful burning light.

>>720439559
thanks, it was pic related

>>720439793
Oh shit, that's what this bitch does? I gotta find more memory lockets

>>720439793
What a fucking dogshit upgrade for how late it is. Anyone who got this far got so used to the gameplay they won't be needing it anyway. It's supposed to be a crutch for new players.

>>720432649 (OP)
Yeah man because I was definitely going to brag about "beating" Silksong before all this.

>>720432649 (OP)
>Beat Moorwing and Sister Splinter before the patch dropped

Fuck yeah, my penis is still huge.

>>720439557
Hunter>all

>>720440010
>default playstyle they have to balance the game around

Makes sense.

>>720439692
I beat the final boss multiple times with every crest and that ranking is closer to reality than whatever you can conjure up.
R*aper is a noob trap; shit DPS, movement set too similar to superior crests.
Architect is cheese central, you may as well not play the game anymore.
Shaman relies too much on silk, which you also need to heal,and lacks everything else.
Wanderer is too strong to be challenging aka fun.
Hunter requires skillful movement to milk its potential.
Beast and witch have clear pros and clear cons, which makes them balanced aka fun.

>>720440072
>Reaper is bad because it has bad DPS
>Architect is bad because it has too much DPS
(you)

>>720439910
even if it was earlier in the game, the walkback to anything you'd use it for is long enough that clawline will eat through all of it anyways
feels like the devs saw how often healing was used in HK and crippled silk in SS for it, which sucks cause shaman is meme tier as a result.

I don't think releasing this thing is a good idea

>>720440258
its a good idea for you.

>>720440258
You're gonna do it anyway

The fact that they made the heat things in Mount Fay destructible even though they are often on walls you harpoon to is total dogshit

>>720440258
Do you really think church would imprison actually bad bugs

>>720440297
Why did you lie to me?

I killed the bug who tries to kidnap me twice, did I miss the chance to see hornet fighting without her usual equipment?

>>720432649 (OP)
More like
> you will never prove you beat the game before the patch

It's over... any and all discussion will now be asking if you're a pre patch Chad or a post patch virgin. Even though none of it matters.

>>720432649 (OP)
I beat the game but the nerfs were needed.
Early game is just complete cancer and Hollow Knight isn't about it being ultra hard from the get go. It's about it being a fair challenge that goes up as you go along.

>>720440113
Yes.

>>720440457
>ultra hard
lol

>>720440401
Because experiencing cool fights is good for you.

>>720432649 (OP)
>not nerfing last judge which was the actual hard fight

Is there any point in doing the target minigame the third time if I don't want the rosaries? I'm wondering if I have to win hard enough to progress to a fourth stage or something that has more of a real prize.

>>720440535
Citation needed

>>720440556
There is nothing to nerf tho. It's an extremely fair fight.

>>720433364
Fuck you are dumb gorilla nigger. Download the GOG version u want faggot.

Let me guess?

>muh cheevos

>>720433364
Also fuck you it's $20, fuck I hate poor people.

Be better, do better.

Goddamn it I thought the fight was over

Who cares about beating something with artificial difficulty? It’s a video game. You didn’t actually achieve anything. You niggas need a job or actual aspirations

Post yfw Lost Lace Forma Tertio pops back out

>>720440258
What did it do?

Im playing Pirated Hollow Knight + All DLCs on my ROG Ally X thanks to free gog games.

I'll wait a while for Silksong though once they're finished patching the game and maybe some DLC

>>720439910
its made for dlc

Do you get a charm that turns to the sprint into the HK dash?

>>720440556
They nerfed the damage that the worms in the runback do

>>720440919
It touched Hornet without her consent.

>>720434469
"vision" is a fucking meme, the correct answer is and always will be just giving players options. put one-mask damage and float cancelling behind toggles in settings, sorted

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH IT'S NOT FAIR I HAD TO GO ON A WORK TRIP ON MONDAY THROUGH YESTERDAY I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY FUUCKKK I DIDN'T GET TO BEAT THE GAME IT'S FUCKING OVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>720441020
options are the actual meme, it's the developers job to balance the game not the players

>>720441020
Fuck no and fuck you

>>720440778
Phase 2 is cancer, I can barely tell what's happening in the screen. And all the flashes hide the boss too.

>to be continued
what did team cherry mean by this?

>>720440928
stunning and brave

I've been getting filtered by the Hunter's March gauntlet, the wave with one of pic related and one flying ant is too much

welp at least I got to beat moorwing before the nerf, rest of the game is ruined

>>720441167
The solution to all problems with regular-ass enemies is usually to pogo more

>>720434012
>games are experiences to be had, not challenges to beat
Millions of people really believe this

>>720441129
they are releasing 6 DLCs in next 2 years

>>720432649 (OP)
that sucks!

anyways i beated the first sinner last night it was really fun :D

how do you get this? what is this? i have 50 hours and i dont have this bone skull that every people have in theyr screenshot

ermmm why are there so many new enemies here

Cool fight

>>720441246
source?

>>720441167
Nuke flying enemies with tools, then wait for this guy to do something and react. Jumping and down attacking is very effective against ants

>>720441285
They shoved all the enemies from the cut coral area in here

>>720441264
Did you kill the ants?

>>720441264
You get it after >>720441167

>>720441287
>cogfly
>tack
yup. Didn't beat her

>>720432649 (OP)
Just beat Widow after updating, what a fun and balanced fight ^.^

>>720441287
>didnt do it with an anklebiter wanderer build that rushes over to FS at every chance and wails on her to a ridiculous extreme.
>relying on tools
yeah, its cool. but you didnt have REAL fun.
genuinely looking forward to SS's godseeker equivalent so that i can fight widow/first sinner again

>>720441371
of course i've killed lots of ants, hunter march and undergraund of barmen

>>720441264
Hidden vendor in the ant area.

I'm a shitter that keeps complaining about certain difficulty spikes but Moorwing and Sister Splinter weren't them. I feel like they nerfed the two bosses I spent the least attempts in.

>>720441372
I finished all of Hunter's March, the gauntlet just unlocks Shakra for maps

>>720432649 (OP)
I already beat those bossss. How did they change them anyway?

>>720432649 (OP)
>no one can ever attain the status of "beat the game" ever again
except for everyone who pirates it

>>720441548
A vendor behind a wall has it

>>720438281
Actually git gud

>>720441336
They've stated that expansions are in the works and they have lots of ideas, plus that's how it was with HK1, but now they have even more money and time.

>>720441574
>playing with float override enabled
You didn't beat the game

>>720441167
oh and btw didn't the warrior map woman show up to help you with that one? I went away to do other things and when I came back to try again she didn't appear

>>720441390
Didn't use them is my successful try, I just played the rythm game with her.

>>720441487
Playing with ankles is so fun, they are always on for me. But I tend to overshoot and run into contact dmg.

>>720441605
GODDAMNIT I should have fucking known not to trust a tiny room with nothing

>attacking enemies
You didn't beat the game.

>>720441647
She didn't show up for me.

>>720434256
Down+dash, idiot.

anywhere to use two extra craftmetal? i have everything bought from forge sister and architect spider

>>720441728
I guess she only appears if you haven't progressed to other areas and maybe you went there first

What's this float override thing? t. only 8 hours into the game

wtf is the tell for trob 2 xslash thing. It's fucking instant

>>720441812
The geniuses at Team Cherry bound both double jump and a float ability to A

>>720441848
So once you unlock double jump you can't float without doing a double jump first?

My save is bugged so that I can't complete the flea festival after high-scoring the minigames. Every time I break the rosary pinata, the fleas just stand there celebrating and the game won't progress. It's a soft lock not a full crash, so I have to close down Silksong (option to Quit to Menu is greyed out).

Anyone know anything about this bug? Is a shame because I won't be able to get the memento for beating Seth's scores.

Also, I missed the Shakra optional fight in Act 2. Is it possible to fight her in Act 3? Does it mean I can't complete the Hunter's Journal?

>>720441761
craft bench in high halls, greymoor above nps in a bell house at the top left of the zone

>>720441630
>They've stated that expansions are in the works
source?

>>720441887
yep and that makes a bunch of sequences harder

>>720436607
I think the idea is slinking enemy to enemy for traversal without really fighting them.

>>720441630
>They've stated that expansions are in the works and they have lots of ideas
so Hollow Knight 3 in 2034 then?

>>720441906
that's a bait picture

>>720441995
That's pretty dumb, why would they do something so dumb?

>>720442038
It's how mac takes windowed screenshots I wasn't baiting. I'm not a macfag it's just how I'm set up right now.

>>720441995
Meh, it caught me a couple of time but it's a non-issue

>>720442194
>He says that while posting on 4chan on a Friday
based anti-nerd larper

>slab escape sequence
I missed this. I think I killed the jailer too fast. Is that possible?

>>720442326
It's not a mandatory sequence yes, you have to be a shitter at just the right moment or have a bright insight of genre-savviness.

So is this for act 3?

>>720442573
yes

>>720441951
Jason Schreier article and also i've read a more direct conformation from there somewhere else, no source for the second one.

>>720442628
Can't wait for them to turn their DLC plan into a full game and releasee it in 7 years, no joke.

>>720441129
It means in 2035 you'll be playing Zote song.

>>720442628
There's still one more backer boss they didn't add. We're getting DLC to add him.

>>720433832
Not knowing GOG exists is just embarrassing.

>done everything except memory lockets
>can't bind Eva as a result
Doing clean up in Metroidvanias is so dull unless there's something fun to warrant it.

>>720434227
who the FUCK are you replying to??

>>720442802
I don't know how much but there's some leeway, I personally am missing three lockets and I still bound her.

>>720442802
I need 100% completion to finish the game? wtf

Did I lock myself out of 100% if I hit act 3?

Does anyone have the artist's name?

>>720442941
No

>>720440778
Best fight in the game

>>720432649 (OP)
Why would I ever play this game when Ori exists?

>>720435225
Moorwings projectiles do 1 damage instead of 2. That’s the only change the speedrunner I watched could notice. It’s kinda hard to get accurate info since no one is replaying game much yet, except speed runners who barely interact with difficulty.

>>720443012
Cause you already played Ori

>>720441906
Did you pick up the nail oil that drops from the pinata?

>>720443017
>Moorwings projectiles do 1 damage instead of 2.
Game unironically ruined

>>720442941
Yes, if you didn't duel Shakra and Garmond (not the boss fight) and didn't complete your Hunter's Journal entries prior.

>>720443062
Fuck

>>720443040
True. But I hated hollow knight

>>720443062
Ah fuck, I don't think I beat Garmond

Fuck whoever designed the path to the last judge

>>720442941
Not as far as the game counts, but you can miss some stuff.

>>720437662
They also nerfed many enemies and all environmental hazards except lava to do 1 damage instead of 2.

There’s a bunch of unlisted changes.

>>720443213
Good.

i need someone to help me with seth's locations!!

Where is the food guy in the Choral Chambers? Can't find him, want to start his quest.

>>720443062
The game will still consider it complete.

>>720443156
It's really not that hard, you can skip all the fights. I think the only tricky bit is the first flying bug which spawn right in your path but you can probably skip right past him

>>720441487
>anklebiter wanderer build that rshes over to FS at every chance and wails on her to a ridiculous extreme.
Yep that's how I game
Fucking loved First Sinner fight

>>720443062
>>720441906
You can complete the journal without fighting Shakra, she doesn't count for the total if you didn't fight her

>>720433364
Well don't buy it now, because you will never beat the game.

>>720432649 (OP)
i already did all this shit fuck you
let me get access to the cunting sinners road bench easier you FUCKS

>>720443309
A bit to the right of the spa

>>720442943
Kill yourself

>>720443408
thx

>>720434690
>>720434916
If you hold down while jumping you get float instead of double jump. I wish the game told you about it and that it also worked with diagonal down inputs.

>>720441167
I just shat out spike traps and hoped for the best it worked flawlessly on first try

>>720432649 (OP)
I already beat it though

>LOST VERDANA
FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUU

WHY ARE SO MANY MAPS BAD WITH THE FUCKING BENCH NOWHERE IN SIGHT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RUN 10 MINUTES TO THE STAG AND THEN TO THE GREEN CUNT YOU FUCKING PIECES OF TRASH THIS IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY THE FIGHT IS THE REAL CHALLENGE NOT THE RUNBACK

>>720432649 (OP)
Without using memes, how much of a difficulty nerf is this really?

>>720443878
Nigger there is a bench to the right of where you enter Lost Verdana

>>720443758
>If you hold down while jumping you get float instead of double jump
That doesn't work anymore

>>720442943
nice buggers

>>720432649 (OP)
I'm already past the relevant nerfs, so this looks to be mostly bug fixes for my run. Still a bit annoying that they're nerfing enemies already, though I guess we don't know the extent of the nerfs yet. I'm just hoping they don't fuck with later game content before I finish. I'm *almost* ready to close Act 2.

>>720432649 (OP)
Awesome, maybe I'll play it now unless my refund appeal is processed. As it is Silksong is a woke trash game for mentally ill retards.

>>720444081
I'm willing to bet that Groal and High Halls get nerfed too.
Last Judge might get touched as well.

But that's it. I think the only rebalancing Act 2 truly needs is more shard drops.

>>720443045
yes. I got the oil and maxxed the needle. I can do the pinata over and over and get rosaries, but no repeat oil.

>>720444183
they need to put sone quests, tips.
>you got infected by bud, have no compass, and no info where to go, good luck go suck
>there are act3, no one knows what needs to be dome to enter it
>there are lots of secret locations and areas, break random wall in random place and unlock full location

i mean come on this is not "hard game" now, this is bullshit

>>720444269
Weird, picking up the oil is what prompts them to finish

>>720444381
I've submitted a bug report to the official TC support. I was getting a weird bug prior to the celebration too, while playing Flea Dodge – after losing/exiting the minigame, one of the platforms would rapidly/repeatedly load in and explode. It wasn't a problem, just a weird glitch.

>>720444183
>Groal
Pretty sure that's my next target. I'm (mostly) spoiler free, but I'm clearing Bilewater during my next session (opened the station last night).
>High Halls
That would be unwarranted in my opinion. The bench is convenient, and the fight isn't *that* hard if you use tools and clawline. Biggest hurdle is not shitting yourself on the final wave reveal.
>Last Judge
If they change anything, a shortcut that makes the runback a bit easier would be appreciated. Last Judge isn't all that difficult, but there's a learning curve to the second phase attacks. I would expect most people to need a few attempt to clear on their first run.

Do the delivery quests add to 100% completion? They seem hard for little reward.

>>720444615
Nah I got 100% and only did Courier's Rasher

>>720444615
The only one you need to get to act 3 is the courier's rasher

>>720444183
I Architect-build cheese Groal so he died as soon as he came on screen lel.

NO NO NONONO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CHEW SLOWER NOT FASTER

>>720440072
>Beast and witch have clear pros and clear cons, which makes them balanced aka fun.
So do the other crest?
Wanderer has higher nail dps and silk gen, but less tool slots and the low range forces you to use better mobility.
Reaper is low dps and high knockback, so it's low risk but low reward.
Shaman can't air heal but has stronger spells and ranged strikes.
Architect is kinda busted in practice. Shard bundles are dirt cheap and by act 2 you should never be losing rosaries because of silk eaters.

>>720444676
>>720444718
yeah I did it. It was hard. I had a run when the rasher esploded literally running half-way down Mergwin's room lol.

I did it. 7.5/10

>>720434469
2 mask damage on contact is artificial difficulty

>>720435225
they said they nerfed it so casuals would shut up

>>720444824
If you go through Phantom's area it's really easy. Way quicker than the Blasted Steps route.

Theyll put a bench closer to the judge but thats it

Splinter is a mandatory boss for wall jump
And moorwing is a semi mandatory boss for bellhart
I think the nerfs theyre doing is targetting the mandatory bosses for the normal end

So high halls is the only other brutally hard part BUT you CAN nerf that fight if you get double jump so.who knows
Someone said shakra will join in too if you progress her quest

>>720440072
Witch build?

>>720444969
ah, I did blasted steps. I beat the optional boss you're talking about. She was fun. I really want to master the skill you get from her.

>>720445172
It's my favorite one, I've tried playing without it a few times but unless I'm desperate for the silk storm aoe I just can't bring myself to.

If i beat moorwing and splinter and did most of content in act 2, can I download patch or should I play in offline mode?

>>720445070
>wisp drain your silk
>no weavelight
>mirror for some reason
>the two pots???
you just strung up some items together, called it a build and never looked back? based shit build

>>720445070
Does the fast bind even do anything with Witch? It's hard to tell because of the way it slows down time on damage, but it doesn't seem any faster to me.

>>720445326
Parry gives you like 2 seconds of iframes its crazy especially in a game with no shade dash or descending dark

>>720440072
...by this logic reaper should be one of of the better one because you artificially make the fight longer and harder which make them more challenge aka fun

>>720432649 (OP)
I've still yet to see anyone ever complain about Sister Splinter. It seems like such an odd boss to nerf.

>>720432649 (OP)
The only one that's actually concerning is the removal of cloak override. I know most people probably didn't use it but I did as it was genuinely useful. I hope they at least adjusted input timings for double jump and cloak now that you can't choose which one to use midair

>>720445821
People genuinely cannot handle more than one thing on the screen
Its why schmups are so hard for casuals

They see splinter summon adds and vines and they shortcircuit despite how pisseasy they are to deal with

>>720445615
>wisp drain your silk
>no weavelight
I had those changed before.
>the two pots???
I think cogfly and stuff would be more useful, but I'd rather play Witch as a solo slasher.
>>720445663
yeah I think it's faster.

Moorwing made me drop the fucking game, so I'm glad he's nerfed, good fucking riddance such a horrible boss

I didn't find I could down-dash or cancel out of sprint with a backflip until late game. Is there anything else I should no about?

>>720445845
Armchair game dev solution: make double jump activate on button release instead of button press. This would add a very small (50-100ms) delay on double jumping, and that might make it shit. It would be a very intuitive way to allow for the choice, though.

>>720446323
You can taunt enemies

>>720446546
yeah I knew that one. makes Shakra's ring weapon worth carrying for the unique taunt animation.

>>720446363
>make double jump activate on button release instead of button press
That's terrible, I'll often be doing a variety of things after jumping before taking my second jump, I don't want to hold a button in the meanwhile.

>>720444183
How do you nerf Groal? Because the boss isn't the issue. It's the runback.

>>720445037
I geard the bug who helped with moorwing too can help there.

Is Rosary Cannon undertuned? seems weak.

>>720445821
It's the boss that tries to force you to integrate the silk abilities into how you fight. A lot of people will just hit "attack"

>>720443274
greymore and shellwood

>>720446651
That's not what I mean.
Right now:
>press jump button in midair
>as soon as the game receives the "button down" input it triggers double jump
>no way to opt to float instead of without spending double jump
My suggestion:
>press jump button in midair
>game waits a very brief moment to see if button is held
>if button is held, float
>if button is released immediately, double jump

>>720445821
I defeated it quite easily after the first attempts, when I simply started spamming thread storm every time I saw a summon, especially if I could hit the boss too.

>>720441167
silkstorm does well here

>>720445845
>The only one that's actually concerning is the removal of cloak override
Is that where pressing down in mid-air gave you float? Removing that makes no sense.

>>720432649 (OP)
>Removed float override input
Anything else is debatable but this is objectively fucking retarded

>>720445070
Longclaw, heavy belt, flea brew, upgraded mirror, shield bell, ranged tool of choice, silk spear.
Can beat Lost Lace just fine.

>>720445615
You haven't played with witch, have you?
You heal by hitting enemies with your AoE bind. The mirrors are there to add damage to your heal and double-dip on a mandatory aspect of the crest.
Are you dumb?

>>720448009
Nope, it was a horrible mechanic that trolled me more often than it helped me.

>>720432649 (OP)
I hate it when patch notes say "Various additional fixes and tweaks"
WHAT fixes and tweaks? I'm reading the patch notes for the express purpose of finding this out, just fucking say what they are

>>720447889
Yes that's the one. I guess they're getting rid of it because people are complaining about going into a float instead of a double jump and getting hit and the devs figure it's so niche they might as well remove it. It sucks but they want the game to do well so casualization to some extent was inevitable. I hope they at least don't make act 2 and beyond too easy or the game will lose its charm

>>720433389
keep seething retardo, it's very entertaining

>>720448440
Nta, I had no idea of ots existance, but now I get why I struggled so much against the father of flame.

>>720448440
I feel like they should have just made it a toggle in the options. I can see some people wanting an on-command float after unlocking double jump.

>>720440113
Throwing out bugs and tacks then making more is more than just too much dps

>>720432649 (OP)
honestly idk why they nerfed them
I killed beastfly before them so every boss fight now seems fair and doable
Moorwig wasn't that hard, and I killed Sister splinter after 4th or 5th try

>>720449148
I just hope they at least offer some kind of alternative even if it's janky and they don't just remove the option with nothing to replace it

>>720448230
Then they should've made it an option, not removed it entirely for the retards who can't control their inputs properly.

>>720432649 (OP)
>Enjoy your nerfs for babies
OP is retarded? Almost all of the "nerfs" are fixed bugs, literally no fundamental problem has been solved to simplify the game

>>720449864
>Then they should've made it an option, not removed it entirely
That I can agree with.

>>720449503
I could see why they nerfed sister splinter. If you had certain loadouts the fight was piss easy but if not it could be fairly difficult for something early game. Moorwing is strange though considering you literally get help from the AI helpers for that fight so how people got filtered by it is a mystery to me. I wouldn't mind if they nerf everything in act 1 except last judge though just to give casuals a sense of completion. I think they should leave act 2 and beyond as is though other than bug fixes. You get plenty of tools in act 2 you just need to find them so the difficulty is fair

You literally get no beads from playing normally, you have to farm in order to actually buy shit from shops. Did they not realize this when playtesting this game for 7 years?

>>720450342
You're supposed to farm. That's why they included the quest system and charms specifically for farming. It's part of the design they even included areas where it's efficient to farm in. They wanted people to be playing for a good while since I don't think they intended to make a third hollow knight game for a long time. Don't bother farming in act 1 it gets much easier in act 2.

>>720450936
>It's part of the design they even included areas where it's efficient to farm in.
And then removed the best ones in Act 3.

Very funny game. Hilarious even.

>>720451528
What charm gives that weird looking skull that everyone seems to have?

Bilewater is just autism. There is a point where it stops being challenging and it becomes bullshit. Just but a be ch, o do t want to waste 10 minutes each time.

>>720451676
It's in Hunter's March, a hidden room.

>>720451528
>I am having a great ffffffucking time

>>720451821
I'll post my runback again. It's not that hard.

Kek yeah the lugoli softlock happened to me

>>720452090
Correct, and I ran from the bench by the bell station because I didn't use a guide and hadn't found the hidden bench.

>>720452090
Its not about being hard it's called I have a job and I don't want to waste time with padding.

You even speedup your backtrack because even you realized is too long, you fucking obvious fool.

>>720450342
Or you could explore maps and find treasures that drop a lot of rosaries? I've neved had issues buying shit from shops.

Of course Team Cherry will sell out and make the game easy peasy for the masses, and HKfags will defend this

>>720452337
>because even you realized is too long
4mb limit.

>>720452337
>all games must be easy baby shit because I'm 40 with a job
Nobody gives a fuck about your problems

>>720452448
I beat the true ending last night, I am eternally validated as someone who Beat The Game (don't look at my crest)

Do you need a quest to get the Surgeon key? It's not there for me. I'm on act 3.

>>720452896
It's in Whiteward itself, look harder.

>>720452584
>exceeds 4chan webm limits
>not too long
mmmm

>>720452896
Ah nvm I'm retarded.

>>720433832
Lmao. Put me in the screencap.

>>720432649 (OP)
cant imagine people exist that actually think beating a single player video game in a certain patch is an achievement

I killed moorwing 2ns try
Does reaper crest make that fight easier?
The beastfly raped me way more

>>720452721
you don't care about game design.
They fucked up with this game hard.

I will commit a hate crime.

>>720453357
>Does reaper crest make that fight easier?
Yes, because it forces you to play more slowly due to the slower attack and more silk generation. That boss punishes aggresive playstyles.

>>720432649 (OP)
Download the pirated release version or an old GOG installer if it's there.

>>720454081
>That boss punishes aggresive playstyles.
I thought the intended way was to use the Beast horizontal pogo to hit him, then use the float to maintain aerial position, then horizontal pogo him again, repeat until he dies. This worked for me until phase 2 when his spinning double projectile kept getting me, or the start of the pogo not having iframes made me collide with him and take damage, or his stupid roar changing his hurtbox so I somehow get hit anyway

>>720450342
I literally never farmed and have no problem with rosaries. I didn't buy everything yet, but I never needed to

>>720455593
No you didn't you are baiting. Even if you do a no death run rosaries are still very scarce

>>720455808
I died and lost my cocoon thrice, I think, by now I always visit Styx for baby silkeaters when I'm short on them, and am pretty fine on rosaries.
Again, I didn't buy many things I didn't care for (the scuttlebracer tricked me) and am just playing normally.

>>720454324
I have the original gog installer from release day but haven't played it yet, why is this new version bad?

>>720456848
>why is this new version bad?
autism

>>720432649 (OP)
This game is fucking easy bros. I haven't died more than 5 times to moorwing an sister was beaten 2nd try. This game isn't fucking hard and the people crying about double damage are fucking shitters and exposed as normalfaggots that didn't even play the first game. This game isn't harder than the first one and anyone crying about the patch making the game too easy is bitching about nothing considering how OP the reaper crest is.

>>720456753
No you didn't. This game clearly has surprised the challenging bar and it goes into autism. I don't want to dealer with double damage or the backtracking, go play steel mode if you complain about this.

Where do you guys farm shards? I did like 3 boss battles and now I have none, and the enemies don't drop them. This shard system is retarded.

>>720458429
Don't farm shards, farm rosaries and buy shards from vendors.

>>720453003
Yeah I screwed up when I was shrinking it and I'm too lazy to fix

>courier quest for one of the ingredients needed for the gourmet fucker that gives you the oil for the last needle upgrade
I'm angry
Angry about courier quests.

>>720446674
Realistically they should just make the hidden bench more obvious, 99% of people are going to miss it but it makes the runback tolerable.

>>720432649 (OP)
not my problem i have the fitgirl version

>>720432649 (OP)
I haven't bought the game, I'm waiting until all the DLCs are released.

>>720454050
He's honestly pretty easy if you just surrender yourself to the maggots and play methodically. The only attack that can hit you down there is when he comes in and out of the water.

>>720458202
Yes, I did, and I'm objectively bad at fighting, I simply always rush to my cocoon, when I lose it.
BTW I agree on some problem with the rosaries, fighting things that drop only shell shards is deeply unsatisfying, same for finding hidden zones with only that, I just never found the need for more rosaries, except for in sands of Karack, where I didn't have enough for the map because I just bought out the thief, and somewhere early where I couldn't buy the bench/bell beast.

>>720434663
I don't get why he was nerfed, he has like 3 very easy to read attacks and you can even cheese him if you want removing the whole projectile mechanic.
For me he was honestly the easiest of the early game bosses, I had much more trouble with Beastfly and Splinter.

>>720459079
Dude, stop, the game clearly has a lot of problema and every criticism is getting deflected with trolling and git gud.

This autism is ruining videogames and making modders fix their mess.

>>720459448
Anon, I'm not saying git gud, and agree with the game having issues, I just said I, personally, didn't have problems with the rosaries most of the time.

>>720459715
>If I don't have a problem, there is no problem
Lots of things cost rosaries, I believe you skipped 80% of the game and just rushed to the next point

>>720459995
I didn't say that, I would be happy if there were more rosaries.
For the second part, I think I took more than enough detours before defeating grand mother silk.

Instead of difficulty, the game needs a mode for game design™ for game design enthusiasts and another for artistic vision™ to preserve their bold statement about capitalism. It's simply bad to have their vision and statements compromised. Silksong proves that games are Art and this "difficulty" preserves the bold vision of Silksong as an artistic experience. They can even increase the requirement for rosaries in this mode.

>>720445821
I’m a shitter that died to gruzz mother and beat splinter first try.