Thread 720478164

>start development around the time rpcs3 did
>not even close to being functional despite being an easier architecture to reverse engineer

x360 emulation is pretty okay on series x/s

>>720478164 (OP)
The CPU in the 360 is actually very similar to the one in the PS3, just set up in a less retarded way.

>>720478164 (OP)
why

>>720478301
That´s not emulation.

>>720478301
That varies game to game, sometimes its excellent with the games running at native 4k with a higher framerate. Other times its awful with zero improvement from the 360 version with a ton of input lag introduced.

>>720478603
So you just want to pirate then?

>>720478473
only a single russian guy making important contributions
slow ones at that

>>720478473
It was making progress but main devs either left or sperged out. Main GPU dev Triangle had mental breakdown after hohol wars started and he realized that main contributors Gliniak and Cookie are Poles so he tried to sabotage Canary and left the project. Xenia literally doesnt have main devs and is maintained by contributors for years now like mentioned Gliniak who is currently rewriting APU to fix audio/fmv playback in many titles like Crackdown,Lost Oddysey and Ninja Gaiden 2 for example.

>>720478864
he abandoned it long ass time ago. some retard will make a seperate project and we'll be going at it form scratch.

>>720478862
>I don´t like music
>So you want to rape the musician?

>>720478301
it fuckin isn't
>the entire prince of persia series stutters like its sperging out
>phantom crash runs like doodoo penis asshole
>wreckless yakuza missions just wont run
theres also hauls of the xbox versions of certain games that are just scuffed to hell like Conflict games, enclave and second sight, xbox bc is complete fucking shitshow

>>720478164 (OP)
it's not that Ace Combat 6 was a good game

>>720478603
then what it is?
inb4 acshually it's emulation layer which is totally different XD

Xemu is also pretty bad. It's crazy we got PS4 emulation before good Xbox emulation

>>720479425
Recompilation for the new system?

>>720478164 (OP)
xenia is fine

If I wanted to get into helping emulator developers, where would I start?

>>720479425
it's neither
the single games have be rewritten from source code to run natively on series x
this is why it only supports some games but not all

>>72047971
What good PS4 emulation? It's just poorly running BB hacked to hell.

>>720478164 (OP)
midnight club la runs okay on this, better than rpcs3 at least

>>720479425
what's the point of emulation if it's not on windows or linux

>>720479425
If it was emulation, you wouldn´t have the need to download the entire game from their server, and the most important thing, every gam, will run, better or worse, they will. Meanwhile here you have games that they tell you they can´t be run on the series, but conveniently you have the same fucking game "natively" on the series consoles (MGS5 DOA5, DD DA, etc.)

>>720479905
learn c++
if your not autistic and passionate about low level programming and hardware architecture then stick with UI and software testing

>>720480003
The only game I managed to run decently (didn´t try many since I have the original console already) Is KuF, circle of doom.
Forza 2 crashes 1 minute after starting.

>>720479193
You need to download custom configs for some games to be playable. Its retarded that you need to buy gamedev account and use third party solutions because muttsoft didnt updated their BC software since November 2021 but it is what it is lol.

>>720480103
from xbox support website

>>720481028
They mean they want to be able to pirate Xbox games.

>>720478164 (OP)
There's less interest because of there being less exclusives, alongside that the canary builds are pretty solid already.
I've only noticed major issues in Gears of War 3, every other game i've tried has been pretty stable. (Sometimes better than Series X Emulation).

>>720480246
You need patches for a lot of games. Forza 2 is playable.

>>720478164 (OP)
most xbox games are on pc, there isn't some game to hyperfixate on like mgs4

How's xenu? My og xbox cant read disc anymore

>>720478164 (OP)
I 100%ed Saints Row 1 just fine four years ago

>>720478164 (OP)
Not a single game worth playing dies with this piece of shit. Everything good can also be played on the PS3 emulator.
What, did you really want to play Soul Calibur as Yoda?

>>720478956
>some retard will make a seperate project and we'll be going at it form scratch.
already happening
https://github.com/xenon-emu/xenon
LLE compared to xenia HLE though

>>720481664
mediocre, a bit worse than psx2

>>720481513
>Gears of War 3
I wish dude who made PC port would fix saving issue. GoW3 has native PC port and game is fully playable and runs insanely well on modern hardware but game doesbt save at all you have to play chapter by chapter but entire campaign is fully playable. Project Jacinto its called.

>>720481578
>>720481816
Early Forza and Project Gotham Racing games didn't get ported anywhere else

>>720478164 (OP)
This was my only hope of reliving Halo 3, ODST, and Reach in their original formats. Theyre in a tolerable state but could be so much better. Reach straight up breaks and becomed unreadable in the menus or freezes in customization. Still it's better than nothing and is still a better experience than MCC. I was also having fun replaying GoW3 felt like a teen again for just a little while.

>>720481816
Dead or Alive 4, Ninja Gaiden 2 (the original, good version), DOAX2...

>>720478164 (OP)
They did so many forks and patches just for sonic unleashed and once the pc port dropped everyone fled like the plague

>>720482378
Any 360 forza, eternal sonata, lost oddissey, GOW judgement...

>>720478164 (OP)
it all about the games, xbox have nothing worth all the effort at this point

>>720482378
>ninja gaiden 2 (good)
lmao if you actually played it on the 360 you wouldn't be saying that. Littered with crashes, stutters and bugs, that game was a fucking disaster. You're right about DOA though.

>>720479719
Ps4 is x86 based, retard.

>>720484105
so is og Xbox, retard

>>720482183
>360 > MCC on PC
???

>>720478164 (OP)
what is there to even emulate?

>>720486801
Better versions of multiplats

>>720478164 (OP)
works for my shmups and that's all I care about

>>720486762
I do not like the master chief collection.

>>720478164 (OP)
Is there anything to emulate besides Rare Replay and Fable 2? Everything else is on PC.

>>720487657
Why not? It works and looks good

>>720487839
Crackdown 1 + 2.
Fist of the North Star 1 + 2.

>>720486801
>>720487839
Tomb Raider Underworld and its 2 DLCs

Xenia Canary works pretty well though? I've done full playthroughs of Condemned 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Beautiful Katamari, Splinter Cell Double Agent, Rumble Roses XX, and Armored Core (4, For Answer, V, and Verdict Day) on it.

>>720478164 (OP)
whats wrong with it? it runs on my machine. Im starting to think some of you dont actually emulate. I've seen threads shitting on this, PCSX2, and RPCS3. They all work flawlessly on my machine. do you guys just have shit specs?

>>720489863
>Rumble Roses XX
it constaltnly crashes you big fat liar. there's constnat shader compilation stutters. the audio's still broken in a lot of games. graphical issues that haven't been fixed for almost a decade like in deadly premonition.

>>720490553
>do you guys just have shit specs?
In one of the "muh badly optimized emulators" threads one poojet got tricked into posting specs and turns out the guy was running like a 20 year old single core athlon 64.
Probably representative of the average bad optimization crowd.

are there even any games for 360 that either don't have a native PC version or a PS3 version?

>>720491502
Man idk what to tell you, but it played perfectly fine for me. Get Xenia Manager and import the suggested settings.

>>720491949
the ubisoft naruto games.
some of the fable games.
ninety nine nights
i dont think blue dragon was released anywhere else

>want to try a load of OG Xbox games on Xemu
>i7-6700 hates me for it, if the games even work on the emulator without visual issues in the first place
At least they fixed the worst of some of the Tom Clancy game issues, but Pandora Tomorrow was giving me visual artifacting fits.

>>720478470
It's similar to one on the WiiU

>>720478164 (OP)
why doesnt this even have a proper UI its strikes be as the developer being a complete fucking autist

saints row 1 and 2 work well

>>720491949
Gears 2, 3, Judgement

Sonic Unleashed for X360 got completely decompiled, but sonic autism doesn't exist for anything else other than nintendo

>>720487839
The best versions of Splinter Cell Double Agent

>>720487839
hydro thunder hurricane

>>720478164 (OP)
god bless them for keeping games like ninja gaiden II, lost odyssey, and blue dragon playable

>>720478164 (OP)
works on my machine

>>720495365
How'd you get upscaling to work

>>720495365
why does this look better than your average aaa dumpster fire in current year?

>>720478164 (OP)
What xbox 360 games there even are that don't already exist on PC? I can only think of Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Enchanted Arms.

>>720496045
Ninja Gayden 2 (the real one, accept no substitutes)
tetris the grandmaster: ace
shmups like dodonpachi saidai oujou and mushihimesama futari

>>720495907
Jeets and jews. Probably takes less hardware to run, too.

>>720496045
And enchanted arms is also on PS3 I guess

I'm playing Gears 1 right now and it's alright aside from the blood pools glitching out a little

>>720495907
Everything nowadays relies on dynamic lighting and global illumination, upscaling or temporal anti-aliasing, and so much other modern design bullshit, but the old rasterization tech and pre-baked lighting became a lost art because no modern dev wants to fucking do it anymore.

>>720478164 (OP)
MechAssault was a good game but it's not worth building an entire emulator just for that.

>>720496459
It's funny considering as linear racing games are the simplest one to optimize as you can pre-calculate pretty much everything to be used effectively in game (rendering order, culling, etc). If it's not linear racing game (open-world racing) then it's different though.

>>720479193
>xbox bc is complete fucking shitshow
nigger, it is literally FREE if you own the console and allows you to play games from 20 years ago. It's not ideal but still far from a shitshow

>>720495907
Consistent and clean artstyle my boy

bump

>>720492204
stop being poor. better cpus than that are cheap you dont even need the latest stuff just anything newer than that

>>720496045
ubisoft naruto
99 nights
fable 2 + 3

>>720502134
i'm looking into replacing now by christmas, this is just an ancient 2016 prebuilt gift i haven't had a need to bother updating until more recently after my retard brother "tried to fix the fans" and now only the fucking GPU and CPU fans work.

>>720502251
damn. if i see your brother i will slap him for you.

>>720502134
People like him are so weird, I see ryzen 5 6 core cpus for like 62$

>>720478164 (OP)
>Xemu gets updates, and they finally made Marvel Nemesis more playable
>Xenia still sucks ass, and Ninja gaiden 2 has artifacts
>RPCS3 also still sucks and Snake's wrinkles are flickering in the cutscenes
>That dev nigger who "allegedly" develops a Xbone compatibility layer for pc is nowhere to be found
Fuck me man, I just want to play ps3/360 games on my pc. Both consoles have like 5-6 exclusives tops that are worth playing. Why are they not optimize these fucking games?

>>720502417
i built my first pc in 2022 and went what i would call medium high tier with parts and have since upgraded a few things and added some ssds. part of me want to goo poorfag and deal shop on ebay and make a frankenstein build of used parts. there are so many good deals on parts (besides GPUs especially the higher tier ones) CPUs and RAM are so cheap these days unless you want like 64GB or above of DDR5. im not sure about mobos cause i havent looked but when it comes to cpus imo there is so much good cheap stuff out there

>>720502535
You could just buy an Xbox 360 for 55 dollars
>no
Okay then join the dev team and help fix the issues

>>720499280
This is why hl2 has aged like wine

>>720502687
64gb ram is so nice when messing with AI. Ram offload for vram

>>720502821
i have 64GB myself of DDR4 but i know not everyone cares to have that much. in poorfag communities it is one of the first parts that they call overrated to have so much of

>>720502740
Yes, also good for visual clarity

>>720502907
I'm running 64gb ddr4, ryzen 5 3600, and a AMD RX6800 16gb.

Yeah it's "outdated" by now, but it still is a champ at running AI. Runs all the high quality image generation I want, and the new Wan 2.2 ti2v model is super high quality while only using 8gb vram.

It simply does everything I need it to.
>HAPY0

>>720502907
>in poorfag communities it is one of the first parts that they call overrated to have so much of
turd worlders can barely afford a 3060 ti anon. their opinions are irrelevant.
anyway, the main reason is that every cent counts. chances are that if you get more than 32gb right now the rest of the hardware is going to be obsolete by the time normal games that aren't poorly optimized pajeetware demand 48gb or whatever
more ram is always welcome considering how bloated browsers and launchers are becoming ((((chromium embedded framework))), (((electron))), etc.)

>>720503570
Ram is also needed if you want to mess with virtual machines for IT training purposes.

>>720478164 (OP)
>>not even close to being functional despite being an easier architecture to reverse engineer
Lack of documentation does that. Also emulating the embedded DRAM is a major pain in the ass.

>>720478862
yes fuck you

>>720478164 (OP)
What did you personally contribute to the project to make it better? Maybe you wrote code? Documented Xbox hardware? Or just donated some money for development? Hm?

>>720478164 (OP)
Do you understand why now?
And Xenia is definitely not a bad emulator. The main developer knows how the 360 works like it's the back of his hand.

>>720503352
What do you even use to run Wan on a RX6800?

>>720505104
Comfyui. I was using the multigpu custom node for RAM cache, and a Q4 .gguf.

Now I moved to Wan 2.2 ti2v hybrid model. Runs 50% more frames and only needs 8gb vram. Clarity is better too.

>>720486801
Blue Dragon

>>720505734
>Comfyui.
ZLUDA?

>>720478164 (OP)
Because the PS3 has games people want to play.

>>720478164 (OP)
>xbox emulation
You are definitely right. Both Cxbx-Reloaded and xemu are utter shit, compatibility wise. I've always wanted to play the Xbox versions of Fatal Frame 1 and 2 but they both barely work on either emulator.

>>720481969
>a bit worse
My nigga that shit is ass and the faggots making it doesn't update, at least in pcsx2 you can make it work most of the times, nah Xemu is pure trash and i wish i wasn't retarded and able to work on it.

>>720507396
And i wanted to play Steel Battalion and to this day it can't even boot the menu..meanwhile on the autism playground you have fucking the last guardian going from 0 to playable in less than 5 months, the shadPS4 is incredible.

>>720506814
Nope, I'm unfortunately on Linux, and there isn't comfyui-zluda for Linux yet. The Wan 2.2 ti2v model still runs very well without the Cuda speedup tricks.

>>720507870
Can you share you workflow please?

>>720508139
I'm using the hybrid workflow from this page. All I have added is the comfyui-multigpu node pack so I can add ram cache (not needed) and I pasted a RIFE VFI interpolation node set that the output feeds into.

https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/video/wan/wan2_2

>>720508139
Also I generally prefer .gguf models, because you can pick smaller ones if you want. The comfyui multigpu node pack let's you run a .gguf and use ram cache too in the same model loader node.

>>720508612
https://huggingface.co/Phr00t/WAN2.2-14B-Rapid-AllInOne

Have you tried this all-in-one using tiled VAE (to not run out of vram)

>>720508745
Oh yeah I add tiled VAE to everything for that reason.

>>720508745
In my experience + research Wan 2.2 i2v sucks ass. It's 4x slower and quality isn't worth the slowness.

However ti2v is amazing and as fast + higher quality than 2.1. No point in messing with the dual checkpoint 2.2 workflows IMO

>>720486801
Forza (before it went to shit)
Project Gotham Racing

>>720478470
They're identical. Xbox 360 just has more of them and a better GPU while PS3 has the retarded SPUs.