Thread 720502407

Is this a good deal for a vidya card in 2025? My 3070 just doesn't cut it anymore due to my ultrawide monitor, prevalence of UE5 games, and lack of frame gen on my current card.

I don't mean this in the typical negative "haha fuck u poorfag" 4chan way but I feel like buying an ultra wide monitor and then not being able to afford the GPU heft necessary to use it properly was a bad move on your part

>>720502407 (OP)
Anything below 16gb in 2025 is e-waste.

>>720502407 (OP)
just get a 5090 bro

8gb so no. plenty of games already go well over 8gb vram usage. that thing is only decent for 1080p games on medium settings.

>>720502738
What games are these and at what resolution? Because any "recent" game I've played works on a 10gb 3080 at 1440p.

>>720502407 (OP)
nigger 5060 8g is about 5% better than 3070

>>720502643
I can't afford the RTX 5080. Do I really need that much if I plan on turning on all DLSS settings?

>>720502828
Let me guess, 60 fps kek

>>720502928
Get a 5070 ti, they are within a few fps of each other on 1440p and they OC really well.

>>720502407 (OP)
9060 XT 16 GB dominates the $300-400 range so I'd go with that

>>720502407 (OP)
Intel arc 12 gb or get a 4060ti 16gb card or the recent amd 9060xt 16, all under 500

>>720502407 (OP)
DO NOT downgrade you idiot
>but UE5 games
just don't play them. or go buy a 20 dollar CRT monitor and play them at 1024x768 or something

wait for 60 series

>>720502407 (OP)
the new *60 series is the old *50 series
you are likely completely sidegrading

>>720502407 (OP)
the 3070 is actually more powerful than the 5060.

>>720502407 (OP)
get the 9060xt 8gb or the 5060ti 16gb

>>720502928
You have other options besides nvidia, stop being a brainless consumer retard, especially when at your price point nvidia is the worst option by far. Anyone who buys a 60(at least non ti)series nvidia card at this point doesn't know fuck and all about PCs and should stick to consoles.

>>720502407 (OP)
You would effectively be slightly downgrading. Your only benefit would be taking advantage of frame gen and I guess new dlss since only 40 series+ get access to it, but this would be on a card that already can't perform well, so then you'd be playing games on your PC as if you were playing with an old tv screen. The input delay would be infuriating with frame gen on.

>>720504163
>>720504525
fml i sidegraded from a 1070 to a 5060TI

>>720502407 (OP)
According to techpowerup 5060 is actually 3% slower lmao. I don't take that as gospel but even in the best case, that's an extremely underwhelming "upgrade". While even VRAM staying the same LMFAO

>>720502407 (OP)
Fuck no. AAA games now require 8GB of Vram for lowest settings with upscaling lmao. This GPU wont play new games by the end of next year already OP. All those fancy upscaling and framegen stuff takes up VRAM by itself too.

>>720504283
shhhh these are nVidia shills, you don't want to wake them, if you do they'll call in the paid marketing shills in force.

>>720502407 (OP)
fucking kek man
first of all, 3070 > 5060
even the 5060 ti 16gb is worse than the 3080 by like 15-25%.
now your second problem, you'd be upgrading from 8gb to 8gb. this is what your limiting factor is now and just bc you bought something new and shiny doesnt mean the main issue wouldnt go away.
>ue5 games
what i notice a lot is that the only choice for 8 gb cards is to use low textures because anything above causes massive hiccups due to running out of memory. look at the BenchmarkKing youtube channel, he does extensive tests on a 3060 8 gb, and he basically recommends low textures in every single one of these games.
>framegen
a solid reason to upgrade for, but you need around 200mb of extra vram for it. just dont buy a 8 gb gpu.
if you're actually low on budget get the cheapest 16 gb gpu which would be the 5060 ti 16gb, retailing for like 400 bucks. it should be a plug and play experience as it doesnt require anything special, just a single 8pin connector. i think your 3070 uses 4x2 or even 12 pin so you'd be all set.

>>720504642
you multiplied your fps by 2.8x in every single game, plus you have smoothmotion, dlss, mfg x3. that's not a sidegrade.

People are actually buying 8GB cards in 2025????

>>720505008
>Fuck no. AAA games now require 8GB of Vram for lowest settings with upscaling lmao. This GPU wont play new games by the end of next year already OP. All those fancy upscaling and framegen stuff takes up VRAM by itself too.
AARGH UPSCALING DOESN'T REQUIRE MORE VRAM I'm tired of making this correction in every one of these threads. Framegen and raytracing do however increase VRAM usage.

Hijacking OP's thread to show off my new rig

>>720505419
bazed
that rig is gonna handle breath of the wild at 200 fps easily. 400 fps with smoothmotion

>>720502407 (OP)
I will never buy a nvidia card ending in 60 or 70 anymore. They are always nerfed versions and a card ending in 80 almost always tends to perform and last (for me) to run games at a high framerate for awhile, even if sometimes I have to set down stuff from ultra to med or low as it ages.

Is it a good card for you? I dont know. But I know where my percieved value is, and i feel like people who buy a 60 card get burned because they think the bigger generation number means better.

>>720505290
>if you're actually low on budget get the cheapest 16 gb gpu which would be the 5060 ti 16gb, retailing for like 400 bucks. it should be a plug and play experience as it doesnt require anything special, just a single 8pin connector. i think your 3070 uses 4x2 or even 12 pin so you'd be all set.

Even that is only ~13% faster than 3070.

>>720505419
>windows 11

>>720502407 (OP)

Fuck no. Get a 9060 RX 16GB.

Wait for 5070 super or get AMD. 8GB is not enough.

For ultra wide displays, probably not. I'm not even sure if the 5060 is all that better than a 3070 in terms of raw power. Try upgrading to a 5070 or 9070 to make the upgrade process worth your while.

>>720502407 (OP)
Does it look like a good deal?

>>720507960
kek i cut it out, but it's at the bottom of that list at a whopping 16 fps at 1080p

>>720507960
>only 4 times worse than the $2000 GPU
thats a fucking good deal if you ask me

>>720508078
>4 times worse
You mean 1/4 as good?

If a game requires more than 8 GB of VRAM for anything less than 4K native, it's malware and you shouldn't play it

>>720507960
>Less than 1080p 144 hz on a fucking 5090
HOW
HOW DO YOU EVEN MAKE A GAME THAT UNOPTIMIZED

>>720508704
stop being anti-semitic, think of the 2K games and Epic Games stock price

4070 super is the bare minimum, something like the 5070 8GB is only good for the most casual of gamers. I'm talking people who play fortnite, marvel rivals and indie games.

>>720508863
>think of the 2K games
A particularly funny name at present given that there's no consumer hardware in existence that can play this game at 2K

>>720509094
UE5 shit is the most casual of casual games.

>>720505419
>16 GB
KEKAROO

>>720507960
why does a stylistic cartoon not realistic graphics game need a 5090 to run at 1080p

>>720510670
You're supposed to turn on DLSS.

>>720510791
fake frames and upscaling are not valid solutions to unoptimized UE5 slop, Randy

>>720510791
DLSS makes no sense. I turn on DLSS quality while playing POE2 and the game looks worse but runs better. I turn on DLSS performance and it runs the same but looks worse.

>>720510897
I'm not a fan of it, but that's just the reality in current year. Games are made with upscaling and fake frames in mind.

>>720507960
Jesus fuck, I'm thankful I'm not into modern AAA slop and still have dozens of old game I wanna play.

>>720507960
why is the 3060ti faster than the 5060ti? as shitty as nvidia is I don't think they would let this happen.

>>720505290
Solid analysis aside from the recommendation. The 9060 XT and 9070 XT are just the better choice in their respective price brackets right now. If you are not shopping new, as in no GPU yet, and can't afford a 9060 XT it probably makes no sense to upgrade at all. And if you are shopping new a used 3070 for 200 is the only thing palatable, but OP already got that.

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>>720502407 (OP)
>>720503123
>>720503602

>people shitting on 8gb VRAM

If you're solely playing modern AAA you have abysmal taste. I've got a 4050 6gb and it can play everything fine including KCD2 at 60 FPS. Stop falling for faggot YouTubers shilling 16gb VRAM as necessary

>>720511447
The AMD cards both 16gb of course.

>>720502407 (OP)
you have no reason to buy this card unless you live in a third world country

>>720511553
There is nothing wrong with an 8gb card right now up to 1440p. I can play BF6 with 120 FPS with that. But you wouldn't want 8gb in a new card for future games unless you are on a tight budget and get something used or really never play anything but indie and competitive games.

>>720511553
how's wuchang?

>>720511568
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY THE HECKIN NVIDIA BECAUSE THE MAN ON YOUTUBE AND TWITTER SAID SOOOO NOOOOOOO

>>720511861
8gb is not enough.
https://youtu.be/cyYFz1PZ_PM?t=54

>>720511861
OP was asking if it's a good deal for $300 which it is. Most of the first replies were shilling 16gb cards despite costing far more. 16gb is absolutely not necessary unless you want to play brand new AAA at high settings. Those games account for maybe 2% of the market

>>720511869
Not asian just being honest. If OP had said "I want to be able to play everything released in the next 3 years minimum" then the 16gb VRAM card advice would be good advice but they didn't

either cheap out and go for the 9060 xt 8gb or if you want to add a bit over budget go for 5060ti 16gb

>>720511553
8gb is a real problem but i think techtuber exaggerated the issue way too much because the average poorfag living in turd world are on a tight budget they could never afford anything above 60 tier cards, obviously these people would be running 1080p cheap ass monitors, they just run the game and play and it default on medium settings it won't even use over 6.5gb vram
theres a good reason why 4060 won the latest steam hardware survey, they are cheap now offers decent performance at 1080p, store are clearing their stock for 5000 cards

>>720512189
>devs cant include a single command to unfuck a game for 8 gb gpus
holy jewery

>>720502407 (OP)
It's shittier than a 1080 from 2017

>>720512207
OP also said he comes from a 3070, why waste 300$, or 100$ if he sells the 3070, for essentially a side grade? He saves a little on electricity and has native Frame gen, big whoop.

>>720512189
You can hash it out with the other guy I quoted. I will get a 9070 XT towards the holiday and my brother will get my 3070 Ti. I had no problems with the 8gb of the ti yet. But I was probably lucky that the games that need more weren't my games.

>>720512386
I would've kept using my 1070 if it wasn't for AI

>>720511307
terrible drivers

I almost fell for it too OP, but 8gb is a huge mistake. The easiest way to make a game look amazing is with the textures, and those require a lot of VRAM. I’ve been using a GTX 1060 6GB for the last 10 years and now I’m upgrading to an RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB since it’s literally the best GPU that will fit into my motherboard, and apparently the difference is going to be like night and day on a 4k monitor.

If you’re gonna upgrade, save up the ~$700 and get something good.

>>720511553
8gb is bad but those youtubers are so much worse, they gave birth to dumb armchair pc technician vram retards falling for these techtuber speak to the point of getting a 3060 over 5060, proceed to play games on 1080p low setting to achieve 60fps (because the card itself is slow as fuck) and the vram usage won't even exceed 6gb, its a joke

>>720512829
>since it’s literally the best GPU that will fit into my motherboard
what do you mean?

>>720512870
Exactly. The only games my 4050 6gb can't play above low settings is that Indiana Jones game and Alan Wake 2. Claiming 8gb isn't enough is some weird narrative push from fart sniffers. The people who inquire about mid tier cards aren't the ones who want to spend money on 16gb and above they'd simply do it

Why are people so scared to switch to AMD? I don't get it.

>>720513247
Sadly the 9060XT at 370$ kind of is the new mid tier. I don't like it as well.
Back in the 9 and 10 series cards you'd get a 70 class GPU for under 300 on a good day. But it seems these days are over for now.

>>720511553
Its not even just about gaming, the casual gamer nowadays are poisoned by tiktok and overstimulation so people play games while also having things on their second monitor. You want more than 8gb Vram so you can safely game while having youtube playing on the second screen without shit blowing up

>>720512953
Oh sorry, I meant within my budget. 4070 ti super is the only 16GB card that was within my budget of <= $800. I managed to get it for $700 with tax and shipping (but I bought it from a shady Chink on Walmart and have been waiting 18 days for it). If it’s not here by tomorrow then I need to call them and see what the fucks going on.

My motherboard doesn’t have a PCIe 5.0 slot so the 5070 is out of the question, unfortunately.

>>720513247
USD conversion plus taxes are hell
just jumping from 60 to 60ti are expensive as fuck in a lot of countries

>>720507960
3060 12gb still going strong, the last true budget card

>>720513708
you don't need a pcie 5.0 motherboard. See pic - a 5090 does just fine on pcie 4.0 (1% performance loss), and that holds true for the rest of the lineup

>>720513346
They're retarded at using computers so they buy Nvidia.

>>720514335
Shit I didn’t know that…

What about bottlenecks? My CPU is an i7-7700k and that’s literally the best CPU I can slot into the motherboard (LGA 1151 socket).

>>720502407 (OP)
Get at least a 5070. 5060 is overall a sidegrade with better rt performance and dlss4
12gb will not be an issue over the cards realistic lifespan.

>Source?
I'm a knower just trust me bro

>>720513346
It's not worth it, Intel is higher on my list of GPU's I'd buy than AMD.

>>720513346
Radeon in the United States (and several other countries, really most places) it's objectively a bad buy over Nvidia even if you care 0 about dlss and rt

>>720515464
You're like the only one that keeps posting this nearly year old benchmark of wudong that is known to favor nvidia GPUs when the 5070 is a colossal piece of shit in 99/100 titles

>>720515034
>youtube.com/watch?v=TXKyQYiLro8
Check this vid (the closest match to your 7700k is the 9600k, which is worse) and you'll see that the cpu does bottleneck some games but not others, and is generally good enough if you're aiming for 60fps.

>>720515985
>when the 5070 is a colossal piece of shit in 99/100 titles
Prove it

>>720504283
Why not the 9060 XT 16GB?

>>720516134
>that image
oh you're a faggot fanboy, but here you go: >>720507960

>>720511553
Isn't picking 16GB more about future proofing your PC?

>>720516440
Counterpoint :

>>720516582
it would help if you actually left the fucking game name in you shill bitch

>>720502407 (OP)
i'm upgrading from a 1060 6b within the next few months.

i'm hoping a 16gb card like the 9060 xt will drop to like $320.

otherwise i'm getting the 5060 ti 8gb for that price

>>720516742
Banging your mom simulator

>>720516570
Exactly. If you want to future proof yourself to play absolutely everything for the next 3 years then go for the 16gb but if you don't care about playing the latest AAA on high then you don't need above an 8gb VRAM card. There's a huge portion of gamers that don't give two fucks about AAA games

>>720516279
because he's either going cheapskate or somewhat cheap with budget

you can buy a 9070 xt
but you will never get good image quality
you can buy a b580
but you will never get good image quality

>oh but i have horsepower i'll just supersample and keep TSR or FSR4 at 100%
except it won't clean up anything and the image will be an unstable shimmery mess, and increasing the resolution will only add more fine detail that looks shimmery...

yfw a 5060 user gets infinitely times better image quality than some 7900xtxcuck?

>>720517803
I don’t either but once a year there is typically one that I wish I could play without having to spend 2 days optimizing sliders until I can get it to run at ~60 FPS with Lossless Scaling and not look like total dogshit. Dragon’s Dogma 2 may not have lived up to the hype, but the graphics at max settings are fucking gorgeous and probably would’ve significantly improved my enjoyment of the game. Same with Wuchang.