Thread 720519597

I don't get it, what makes Ocarina of Time to be considered GOAT?

>>720519597 (OP)
My opinion being worth more than yours.

Nobody thinks these are the goats

>cVckserk
>Sharted away
Oot is alright, but the game forces you to watch their slow and boring cutscenes.

I don't listen to a ton of music but my goats in every medium are
>ocarina of time
>aurora burning
>big hero 6
>cobra kai
I don't watch anime or read manga so I can't speak to it

>>720519597 (OP)
>anna karenina
in what fucking world commie?

>>720520205
that book is boring

>>720519597 (OP)
>not the beatles
>not the great gatsby
>not cowboy bebop
>not tony hawk pro skater 2

brown energy

>>720519597 (OP)
only mj and berserk are valid opinions here

>>720520307
you have literally no business discussing the "GOATs" of anything then. And it's almost unanimously considered the greatest novel of all time. Shakespeare's plays are the highest of literature and writing but that's not a novel.

>>720519597 (OP)
war and peace is better

>>720519597 (OP)
For me it's

>Tales from Topographic Oceans
>House of Leaves
>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Paranoia Agent
>The Truman Show
>Billy Bat

>>720520457
>>720520357
It should be

Beatles
Moby Dick
Super Mario Bros 3.
Evangelion
Spirited Away
Watchmen

>>720520457
>cannot spell "NIGGER"
>cannot use verbs
>calls others "retarded"

>>720519597 (OP)
You already have a video game, what's Miranda doing on the top left? Mass Effect 2 wasn't that good

>>720520835
bogged MJ has a better face than miranda tbqh

>>720519597 (OP)
Mine would be
>David Bowie
>haven't read enough for an opinion
>RE4
>Ashita no Joe
>Goodfellas
>haven't read mangas enough for an opinion

>>720519597 (OP)
>Anna Karenina
Kek, come on now.

>>720520828
I would beat the shit out that lardass faggot.

>>720519597 (OP)
>Anna Karenina
Pseud nonsense

Real list incoming:

Led Zeppelin
Don Quixote
OoT
Monster
The good the bad and the ugly
Berserk

>>720519597 (OP)
Spirited Away and The Godfather are both movies, how are they different mediums?

>>720521478
Animation and Live Action play

>>720521478
Anime vs movies

>>720519597 (OP)
dead pedo lol

>>720519597 (OP)
>manga
You fucking wish
https://exhentai.org/g/120372/4f22a8f1e2/

>>720519597 (OP)
I've never seen The Godfather.

>>720519662
For you it is, because you're stuck inside you, and what you like the most is what should matter the most.
Of course, you don't know all the things you like, you may try to tell me you know, but i know you don't know and you know you don't know, so you should try more things to learn more about yourself.

>>720521679
it's like a shittier Baccano

>>720519597 (OP)
I did not care for the godfather

>>720521626
????

>>720519597 (OP)
Tight af controls, the backflips were fukken SICK

>>720519597 (OP)
>GOAT game
It's Quake
Single player puzzle shit is for faggot virgin nerds with a lisp who got (deservedly) bullied

>>720521552
>>720521554
A medium is a format for experiencing content
The content itself is irrelevant

Robocop is the greatest movie of all time.

>>720521908
Language is a game of association not a retarded syntax machine. Learn to clue in

>>720519597 (OP)
Nostalgia

It should be

Thing I like
Thing I like
Thing I like
Thing I like
Thing I like

>>720522054
retarded low iq indian entered the thread

>>720522072
Yes.

>>720520649
>Beatles after the 1970s
Low effort bait at this point, we don’t care

>>720519597 (OP)
oot was designed very well to trick people into thinking they were smart, its the dunning kruger affirmation game.
Seriously, if you have an IQ over 100, play the game as a result and think about every single action you do, its all handholding, the entire game could be replaced with a movie that keeps pausing and it wouldnt be functionally any different.
oh and its got hours of unskipable dialogue and cutscenes, fucking great. totk is unironically better.

>>720519597 (OP)
>berserk
it’s overrated, people only like it because of the art. If I were to choose a manga that everyone even nips would agree on, it would be Slam Dunk

>>720522159
There is literally nothing about OoT that makes it worthwhile playing today outside of nostalgia or "it's a classic".
Threads like this show how mentally deficient gamers are, if movie buffs were as retarded as gamers they'd be naming shit like karate kid or the goonies as greatest movie ever.

>>720519597 (OP)
Music: Paganini
Book: Bible (douay rheims)
Game: LoZ (NeS) or Donkey Kong (arcade)
Anime: Tokyo godfathers
Movie: Wonderful life
Manga: attack on titan minus the final chapter? I dunno, who reads manga?

>>720519597 (OP)
Music - Michael obviously, 90s work > 80s work too btw
Book - Bible by far
Anime - Mononoke is bigger and more acclaimed
Manga - Either Steel Ball Run, that Chinese Danmei TGCF, Solo Leveling or Berserk
Movie - Most will say 2001 at this point or a Lynch movie or Godfather
Game - OOT or BOTW

>>720519597 (OP)
There's an entire generation of kids that grew up in the 90s, who were completely traumatized by their parents getting divorced.
Almost every single one of those kids, had an N64 and Ocarina of Time.
While their parents were screaming about bills, throwing dishes, and getting carted off to jail, the kids would sit in their room, tuning out all the pain with the magical virtual world of make believe.
Ocarina of Time is not just a really good video game to them. No. To them, it's the only thing that ever made them feel safe. Nothing compares to that, and never will, and since they are fervent believers in those magical safety device, they must spread around far and wide, ensuring that Ocarina of Time is always the number one game on every greatest games of all time lists.
Forgive them, OP. They know and yet not know what they are doing.

>>720519597 (OP)
shakespeare mogs

>>720522072
This.

>>720523107
>Game - OOT or BOTW
this is so rare I feel like I could sell your post to a collector.

Best Things Ever: Contrarian Edition
Music: Audioslave
Book: I'm illiterate
Game: Dragon's Dogma
Anime: was a mistake
Movie: Robocop
Manga: Holyland

>>720520307
All old books are boring.

>>720519597 (OP)
Music: Morning Musume
Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
Game: 虫姫さま (Mushihimesama)
Anime: 空の境界 (Garden of Sinners)
Movie: 東京物語 (Tokyo Story)
Manga: spy x family

>>720522572
Based take. It's a walking sim for journalists. Even a sandbox like botw is better. I wouldn't go as far as saying totk though

>>720519597 (OP)
>picrel for those that want to know
This shit sounds dry as fuck. Maybe I'll check out the prose in case it's good (russian fag wrote it, so probably not)
>even author fucking hates it
woof

>>720519662
fpbp

>>720527009
>Maybe I'll check out the prose in case it's good (russian fag wrote it, so probably not)
There can't be any such thing as good translated prose. Unless the translator really cooked. Go read even a mid native English author like Charles Dickinson and his work is incomparable when you put it next to translated works of the greats.

>>720519597 (OP)
>>720527009
Also this book has some sycophants. What the fuck? I might have to read this garbage now
Who the fuck reads a book like this 7 times instead of anything else new? Actual autism

>>720520205
>melville
>the goat

lol, lmao even.

>>720522027
I believe a point in what the original anon is trying to say is that there's a difference between movies and episodic show formats and that animated and live action movies should still be categorized together in one unified group as movies. The production value of Spirited Away is closer to The Godfather than your average animated show so it's more fair to compare and contrast Spirited Away to The Godfather.

>>720519597 (OP)
OFT is oscar bait for games with that shitty little dog game, its like a rougelike but it holds your arm for 99% of the time

>>720520457
pls anon we all know Bleach is the best manga

beatles were more popular than michael jackson

>>720521464
Monster anime sucks, and the manga is better than Berserk

>>720527257
yeah that's what I meant. like there's no way it's gonna hold up against native stuff
>just learn the author's language
I'm good

>>720519597 (OP)
anime would be a slient voice

sprited away is more like ocarina, where you can just half ass watch/play it

>>720521883
This is a severely underrated aspect of the game. The way backflips actually work and what you can do with them in the game is fantastic and you can't really find anything else where the same care has been put into making dodging so flexible. It's so unfortunate that the game gives you so little reason to actually use them in a normal playthrough, so people mostly don't understand how clever the game's combat system actually is.

>>720522572
>play the game as a result and think about every single action you do
Lol I do. Unironicaly you appreciate the game on an entirely different level with an IQ that's130+, as you can clearly see how richly designed the game's interaction structure is and how poorly other games approximate it.

>>720519597 (OP)
>Popular Music
It's Tool. Poptimists and Hiphopheads go into the wood chipper with their boring ass music. Also even if you derive your GOAT from normie tastes, Queen is objectively more popular, and their music aged better, and their songs are more recognizable
>Book
It's The Count of Monte Cristo. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you were basing it on normie tastes it would be Lord of the Rings by such an incredible margin it's unreal. The Russians are popular for the same reason American literary circles have always been fellating 'Southern' fiction. Just a bit of exoticism for the 19th century Brit, and their position is basically just because they were translated early compared to most other non-English literature.
>Vidya
It's 100% the Movie Battles II mod for Star Wars: Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy
>Anime
Acceptable take and also the normie consensus.
>Movie
Give me Lawrence of Arabia or maybe 2001
>Manga
It's not fucking Berserk, I know that much. Tempted to say Slam Dunk as it's basically perfect, but there are too many good options.

>>720519597 (OP)
It's a great adventure game about a tiny boy in a dress

>>720528386
>Unironicaly you appreciate the game on an entirely different level with an IQ that's130+
Did you know IQ is weighted based on age and we all beat the game when we were 5?

>>720521301
As you can see he has lots of training. He would punch you so slow you'd forget where you were

>>720519597 (OP)
>Roxy Music (probably a rare occurrence where a group's last album is their best one)
>Lord of the Rings trilogy
>Terranigma
>Perfect Blue
>Shawshank Redemption
>Berserk

>>720528060
Not even bigger than Queen or Elvis or the Jackson 5 BTW

>>720528559
>Manga
Berserk is easily bigger than Slam Dunk
>Movies
Normies don't watch Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather is the closest to a consensus you'll get
>Music
Awful bait, not falling for it.
>Book
Anna Karenina is the most critically acclaimed, there's no global consensus outside of this because some prefer LOTR but others lean towards stuff like To Kill a Mockingbird so it's the right choice
>Game
Nope it's Ocarina of Time by far

>>720527000
trips of truth
I like botw but totk has the kinokilt and caves.

>>720528386
I can appreciate the work that went in to creating the illusion of being clever, but that doesnt matter when im no longer eight. As an adult it feels infantile, like watching someone do the "pulling my thumb off" illusion when youre 20. I dont hate kids games for being kids games, but its completely mad to say the game designed so its impossible for you to fuck up is the height of the medium, at that point you might as well stop talking about dsp, journalist mode, and moviegames, because then every one of those things would have a point.

>>720521602
That's literally Satan or at least one of his descendants.

>>720526917
>Anime: 空の境界 (Garden of Sinners)
Extremely based taste, peak Nasu and peak Japanese urban fantasy in general.

>>720521602
God has always hid his face.

>>720521464
>Don Quixote
Only right answer for book.

>>720521464
>Monster
Not with that shit ass ending

>>720519662
FPBP
Get fucked OP

>>720520649
One part thinks I'm being baited, another wants desperately for this faggot to be real
I walk away

>>720519662
OP will never recover

>>720519597 (OP)
Must be some 'It was really great at the time it was released' thing.
Finished it much later, thought it's was a good game but GOAT is a bit too much.
Than again Nintendo stuff gets praised for shit people criticize in other games like Ubisoft towers in first open world Zelda.

>>720519597 (OP)
Spirited away blows and is just a lousy Isekai. Jumanji came out a year earlier and is way better. It's not even the best Ghibli movie, Mononoke and Fireflies are better for sure.

>>720530016
What the fuck is an actually clever game to you then? I mean, I've played Alundra, Tomb Raider, La Mulana, Outer Wilds, The Witness, Baba is You etc. and I'd say that the way you interact with the world on N64 Zelda is more clever than all of them. There are all these elements of the design that allow you to "pick the brain" of the devs and figure out things by questioning their intentions, and the game is build from the ground up to let you use the tools you have in so many different ways and is just full of clever detail and alternate means of going about things.

It's extremely disingenuous to act like the entire game is equivalent to this one part where Navi just tells you to push a block.

>>720519597 (OP)
I'll never understand what people see in Spirited Away

>>720535301
It's legitimately a very rich movie that benefits from multiple viewings that let you pick up more from it than you did the last and actually gets more compelling the more you understand of it. Every scene serves a particular purpose that adds to the themes it's aiming to explore. Its only serious fault IMO is the relatively weak ending sequence because of the way the whole segment with the second witch was cut down and rushed. It absolutely deserves to be seen as the peak of anime, and the only thing in that style that seriously surpasses it is parts of Sailor Moon.