Thread 720527980

After the latest update it now beats out NEShawk and Mesen. Software emu bros I thought we had our first victory, but we once again lost.

Can those last 4 tests even be passed on a real NES?

who cares

>>720527980 (OP)
>your emulator sucks because it doesnt react correctly to these situations that only exist in my head

Just play on real hardware

>>720528047
not really, even real NES fail most of these tests. The NES core was already perfect in terms of gameplay for all retail games in existence, this was just for extremely rare and obscure edge cases about highly specific behavior of the original hardware (specifically the exact manufacturer and revision the test was made on, and not other models).

>>720528059
>MiSTer is literally the absolute most accurate and zero latency way to play dozens of platforms
>LOL WHO CARES, JUST RENT YOUR ROMS FROM NINTENDO!!???
die shill

>>720527980 (OP)
i'll stick with rocknes and zsnes

>>720527980 (OP)
NINTENDO
KILL THIS MAN (YWNBAW)

software-emusissies...

https://www.segasaturnshiro.com/2025/08/08/saturn-mister-core-now-passes-every-test/

>>720527980 (OP)
Cherish emulator developers.
Support emulator developers.

Okay.

>>720529089
Maybe I'll buy a mister now

>>720529089
whatever happened to people being normal?

buy an ad

>>720527980 (OP)
Cool from a dedication perspective, but isn't software emulation perfect (or very nearly so)? Not trying to shit on someone's pet project, learning stuff is cool.

>>720529212
>but isn't software emulation perfect
No you fucking retard.

>>720529089
I don't care if it doesn't affect the thing they're making :)

>>720529089
The other core developers are European and South American family men, it's just this one freak who's an outlier.

>>720529212
It is.

>>720528209
I'm not going to play crappy old games

>>720529243
Okay, so how bad is software vs. hardware? Noticeably so?

>>720529089
>skips any tranny labels and goes straight to claiming he's a biological female
uhhh based?

>>720529356
The main advantage is
>zero input latency
>zero audio latency
>easy, flawless, lagless native support for CRT TVs (or HDTVs)
>easy, flawless, lagless native support for original hardware OEM controllers (or any controller in existence)
>every main core is as accurate or moreso than the most accurate software emulators
>don't have to worry about OS issues, driver issues, or hardware config issues
>developing for a common hardware spec means identical and perfect performance on every device

MiSTer is primarily meant as a replacement for original hardware, especially when you consider the cost and space needed for dozens of different original consoles, and everdrives and RGB modding for each one, and MiSTer has additional features and enhancements as well.

But even compared to emulation, it's a great alternative if you want a portable and powerful box with flawless performance, latency, and accuracy. Or if you want pain-free, flawless usage with CRTs or original hardware OEM controllers.

>>720529620
Honestly getting all emulators to have perfect latency and frame pacing is a pain in the fucking ass, this might be worth it if its just plug n play

>>720527980 (OP)
>accuracy
who cares.

>>720529212
Yeah. MiSTer only passes a small number of tests more than Mesen, so it's a question of whether that's worth $400-$500 to you. With how far emulators have come and continue to go, MiSTer is basically just the emulator equivalent of the audophile anaconda.

>>720529667
Just format the SD Card and put Mr. Fusion on it, copy over your roms, and use update_all script and it basically is plug and play. Update_all even does bios files and mame games if you want (you have to manually select the option though)

>>720529743
MiSTer does everything up to fifth gen, hell, fifth gen is probably the best reason to buy one because fifth gen software emulation is still not great.

>>720529518
"Possibly a witch" serves the same purpose as a trans flag. I've been noticing how often troons like identifying with paganism and witchcraft.

>>720529851
>because fifth gen software emulation is still not great
Damn, it really do be 2012 up in here
Quick anon, go invest in bitcoin

>>720529743
Okay, that's what I gathered.

>>720529952
Nintendo 64 emulation is still not good

>>720529952
ares is the best N64 emulator and still has a ton of compatibility issues and higher input and audio latency than MiSTer and high performance requirements. Saturn emulation is especially garbage while the Saturn MiSTer core perfectly passes every test in existence. Even DuckStation has a huge google doc of compatibility issues compared to the flawless PSX core.

>>720529170
rewards of being "normal":
-going bald
-ridiculous mood swings
-slowly watching testosterone deform your face
rewards of being a tranny:
-not having to deal with all of the above
-retards on 4chan will randomly seethe about a personal choice that isn't there business

>>720527980 (OP)
What's even point of this test if real NES also fails some of them? Did the author just want to jerk off by creating some imaginary perfect NES target?

>>720527980 (OP)
wow, and what does that mean in comparison with other nes emulators?
The sprites flicker 0.25% more? you get 1 frame difference in slowdowns?

>>720530120
we just wanted to dab on software trannies by flexing 1% of our true power

>>720530164
Wasn't the test created by software emu faggot?

>>720529089
>LARPs as a little girl to top it all off
That you Digibro?

What's the consensus? Is xe a tranny or not?

>>720530096
Lol your priorities are whack, enjoy your non functional genitals

>>720529089
That's a man, isn't it?

>>720530351
wut is xqc doin

>>720530240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ri_p51HtNY

Disgusting looking troon.

>>720530273
they work fine lol

>>720530439
lmao that's some serious cheating

>>720527980 (OP)
I am not nearly gay enough to care

>>720530096
>implying HRT-induced hormone disruption doesn't cause absolutely psychotic mood swings
tranny tries not to be in denial of reality challenge (impossible)

>>720527980 (OP)
I have never in my life noticed a difference in gameplay between my physical NES games and an emulator, and I doubt it means anything to anyone other than speedrunners expecting some obscure single-frame technique.

>>720530895
He literally admits in that image that he hasn't been able to afford estrogen.

>NES emulation isnt perfect yet
wtf

>>720531673
and you have retards in this thread claiming that N64 and Saturn software emulation are already perfect (LOL!)

>>720531191
being a fat fuck is bad for you
but then becoming a skeleton and then a fat fuck again and then a skeleton again is even worse for you
just don't fuck around with your body's composition, dumbass

>>720527980 (OP)
the only pitfall of fpga implementations is that they won't easily be able to replicate some funny aspects of the digital logic design of the nes
turns out the nes has a minimum clock speed, below which it won't work. that's because some buffer lines in the digital logic are floating and not tied to either VCC or GND. these lines are act like a leaky capacitor, in that they either get charged up or discharged and then isolated by transistors (i.e. by high impedance) to implement a delayed logic signal. if the clock is too slow, an isolated charged up line will discharge because there is no logic driving it.
there may be "features" of the nes where this behavior can rear it's head, and it would be hard to replicate on an fpga, where everything is driven by logic and there are no floating lines anywhere in the circuit.

>>720531935
You don't have to weight cycle to troon, if that's what you're talking about.

>>720531871
>N64 software emulation
>perfect
Go play knife edge.
>but its shit
Not relevant.

>>720532429
read that again ESLkun.

The paid posters are confused and attacking each other lol

>>720533037
First it was
>they're not really any more accurate
and now it's
>well you wouldn't heckin' notice anyways chud!!!

>>720530240
That's certainly not a woman. No woman would come 10 feet close to programming an FPGA in their free time.

>>720527980 (OP)
Love that accurate sprite flicker!

>>720532102
Why would you operate want to intentionally operate an NES in less than its minimum clock speed?

>>720533826
Nta but 99% of people emulate to just play a game.
The 1% of techbros who gaslit themselves into thinking they need overpriced paraphilia to emulate games, or else they aren't doing it "properly" really don't count in any way or form, in context of actually playing games.

>>720527980 (OP)
awesome, it's not as accurate as my $5 famiclone from 1990.

>>720535461
reverse engineering purposes
but i'm pretty sure there are hardware oversights that expose the floating lines in a few ways, although i doubt games took advantage of that kind of behavior but it could fail an accuracy test.

doesn't the fact that this entire concept of "hardware emulation" can have inaccuracies essentially negate its entire purpose

>>720535704
What kind of accuracy do they have that also tests for behavior that isn't related to the output under regular operating conditions ? Isn't cycle perfect functional simulation sufficient?

>>720535831
is a 96.8% accuracy. Why would the missing 3.2% negate it's existence.

>>720535939
>What kind of accuracy
accuracy test* fuck me I'm piss drunk tonight

>>720530096
If being trans is so great, why do trans have higher suicide rates than literally any other group?

>>720535590
you don't seem to understand. MISTer is a product, for the 1% that cares.
>b-but audphile gasliting uh!!!11
how is gaslighting when emulators are also subjected to theses tests. Is not in people's head, the data is right there.

>>720536113
only trans that don't pass unalive themselves.

Why the fuck are people lying that MiSTer is expensive? You can literally buy a plug-and-play pre-built for under $200.

>>720536215
I can get a chinese bootleg NES console for less than $50.

>>720535940
if i want perfect accuracy i buy the old og hardware
if i can accept small inaccuracies then emulation is free
what is this thing for

>>720536195
>unalive
It's okay, we can use grown-up words here. But not "s o y".

>>720536301
This thing is for accurately recreating the inaccuracies of the original hardware.

>>720536295
With accuracy on par with a '90s emulator?

>>720536308
but what if some trans were viewing these posts right now. It would hurt their feelings.

>>720536348
I don't know. It seems accurate enough to me. I can plug it in with my CRT and it can play my old cartridges. Mister can't do either.

>>720536337
you misunderstood the OP then

>>720530412
that's cosmo

>>720536382
If you'd kill yourself just because someone hurt your feelings, you're not normal.

>>720536415
MiSTer can plug into CRT retard, that's one of the main appeals of it is how easily and seamlessly it connects to both 4k TVs and CRTs

>>720536295
retard

>>720535939
>Because OAM is DRAM, which needs to be refreshed frequently, the contents of OAM begin to decay quickly when rendering is turned off via PPUMASK ($2001). During rendering, sprite evaluation will continually refresh the OAM data.
one issue is that if you disable rendering for any length of time, the sprite memory decays unless you refresh the memory by reading and writing it.
typically rendering reads and writes it, but that doesn't happen when rendering is off
weird shit like this is something a well program game doesn't depend on, and is hardly part of any hardware spec, but it's the behavior of produced consoles, so some autists want to emulate that kind of behavior.
personally, i'm of the opinion that this kind of stuff is out of spec and therefore an implementation bug that could easily be addressed in hardware revisions without changing software compatibility, so not worth trying to emulate or recreate

>>720536526
what about my cartridges sis?

>>720536523
>he thinks it's a joke
It literally isn't.

>>720536595
why the fuck would you want to use overpriced, space-wasting cartridges? Even for those with original hardware, most use everdrives. And at that point, even just an NES + everdrive is basically the price of a MiSTer, and MiSTer supports everything up to/including fifth gen

>MiSTer is once again the most accurate NES emulator in existence
The test makers own emulator is more accurate, for obvious reasons

>>720529170
You are not normal.

>>720536301
ok? buy the old hardware then, no one is forcing you to buy this.

>>720536641
but how can the original hardware be inaccurate if that is the baseline of accuracy? If anything emulation is inaccurate by giving better video output than the original hardware.

>>720529620
>and everdrives and RGB modding for each one
Why would I need that, I just want to play games

>>720536717
you didn't answer the question
WHO is this thing for? it covers no niche, it offers no benefits to any of the alternatives available

>>720536695
It doesn't even include sound, controller support, PAL or JP support, and doesn't support most enhancement chips. It was basically a pet project developed in tandem with the test rather than an actual emulator.

>>720536523
Genesis. Theres something in versions 1 and 2 thats a bug. Genesis model 3 fixed it but that broke a game built with the bug in mind.

>>720528229
>not using NESticle
What are you some kind of nerd

>>720536770
Do you even know what an everdrive is, retard?

>>720536670
It can't play right from the cartridges? Then the claim that it is 100% accurate to the original hardware is false. Simple as.

>>720536781
what game

>>720536856
you're trans.

>>720536768
>If anything emulation is inaccurate by giving better video output than the original hardware.
Yes, exactly. That's why it's impossible to come to any clear consensus about what is better and what isn't because at the end of the day, everything is fucked for one reason or another. All the MiSTer does is act 1:1 with the original NES, warts and all. Does that mean it's better? Depends on who you ask.

It's a paradox.

>>720536841
What's wrong with me saving to the cartridge

>>720536916
you're poor.

>>720529170
Communism infiltrated. Are you going to take it seriously now or keep pretending it's fictional?

>>720536772
your hyperbole is annoying. You can"t seriously understand why would anyone buy a plug and play device that supports plenty of old controllers and consoles? and why for those who got it accuracy would be important?

>>720527980 (OP)
mister is not an emulator
and mesen is cycle-accurate so it's basically the same, who cares

>>720537328
Mister is a hardware emulator.

>>720537328
It literally is, please don't say retarded shit.

>>720537393
huh that makes sense actually, my bad

>>720537328
>all cycle accurate emulators are identical
retard alert

>>720530439
Xir is using a wig and a voice changer.

>>720536512
It's not normal to want to hurt others feelings you know.

>>720536215
stop shilling your bootleg

Thats not the MsSTer FPGA

>>720532429
The thing about Knife Edge is that while it's not software emulatable, it would also greatly benefit from it compared to FPGA emulation
Knife Edge is a lightgun shooter, on a system with neither a lightgun or a mouse. Once software emulation for it is figured out you'll finally be able to play it with a controller that doesn't suck, and while an FPGA might be able to emulate it perfectly that won't be able to add mouse support exactly because it's accurate on the hardware level.

>>720536308
>onions
>grown-up
what happened to faggot

>>720527980 (OP)
don't care. If i regulate a game and the frame drop because it's accurate, i switch to a different one.

>>720529089
>she/her

>>720529089
>>720537940
I wish my gf was an FPGA genius...

>>720538035
You would like a gf that is a man?

>>720529089
MiSTer? More like Missus!

>>720527980 (OP)
theres nothing to emulate on the NES though. its all little pixel blocks making blooping sounds

>>720529089
who cares

>>720529089
what website is that

>>720538143
A man's pronouns are He/him

>>720538241
Any human that has a dick is a man.
.

>>720538194
secrit club
we're full
fuck off
etc etc

>>720538194
>website
lol. dont worry about it, grandpa

>>720538194
It's a website full of trannies, pedophile groomers and zoomers. It's called Discord.

>>720536512
correct, gender dysphoria is a pretty crippling thing to live with especially if you're a honbeast. That's why it's important to have HRT to help treat it. Thankfully I'm not really like that, but other's aren't so fortunate.

Do FPGA handhelds exist?

>>720538370
>honbeast
go back to /lgbt/, you monster.

>>720538384
Yes

>>720538424
It's a free website, I can post wherever I want can't I?

>>720538458
stick to your contamination board.