Thread 720612878

Favorite class to play?
Carries and suns not welcome.

>>720612878 (OP)
RTS carriers

Destroyer kill the submarine which kills the battleship.

>>720613891
Most DDs in this game can't even spot subs.

I don't support russian developers

>>720612878 (OP)
Can a landlocked country ever be militarily relevant? Seems like the strongest countries in all of history had access to the ocean why is the ocean so powerful

>>720612878 (OP)
>suns not welcome

>>720612878 (OP)
cruisers were fun back in beta
the games just shit now

>>720617146
irl schmup

>>720612878 (OP)
In hindsight, battleships are just fucking useless lumps of metal only good for tricking other naval powers into not sortieing.

>>720614718
>minor

>>720618761
Untrue. They are godly for assaulting a coast and telling fortifications that would put holes into even a modern destroyer to go fuck themselves.

>>720617146
That's a lot cooler (and terrifying) than I expected.

>>720614419
Those countries are strong because of colonial/mercantile connections that are enabled by their access to sea combined with an emphasis on naval power to protect those connections. pre-plague Athens, Late Roman Republic, Carthage, Spain, the UK, the US, etc, every world "superpower" has fit this mold. More land based Empires such as Russia, France, Persia, USSR, etc can keep up this kind of dominance/performance in the short term or in their local area, but to exert imperial control more extensively/long term you need a trade empire and a navy to protect it and to project power

>>720617146
Imagine seeing this live, fucking kino

>>720612878 (OP)
What's the difference between the three?

>italian main
>no new branches in almost 4 years
>only ships coming are premium
>still waiting for cvs
>still waiting for subs
>latest ships are renamed, reskinned versions of past 3d models and are identical in stats as well
>on top of that almost anything coming out in the last 3 years ever existed
>10th anniversary event having me hoard doubloons like a mofo
>what was left of the ships in the armory has been temporarily removed to create artificial rarity
>meanwhile the french got 2 new branches, hybrid ships and the motherfucking sourcouf
>meanwhile the germans are drowning in ships
>despite both countries having had a navy significantly smaller than of italy in ww2
I'm so jaded guys. I hate this game.

>>720623375
Tonnage and weaponry

>>720623493
Almost got this. How's it?

>>720618761
>Hey fellas, look at this dork who thinks he knows better than Mahan himself! Let's all laugh at him from the comfort of the air-conditioned flag bridges on our battle wagons!
Yeah, of course battleships became obsolete with massed airpower. But before that, you needed a battleship to take on a battleship, and even after that they were useful as tough, large weapons platforms. That's like saying that in hindsight, armored knights were useless lumps of metal because after centuries of dominance they could eventually be brought down by barely-trained peasants with a matchlock.
>>720623375
VERY big -> big -> not as big

>>720612878 (OP)
I play the swarm of 100 torpedo carrying drones
only one has to get through, good luck

>>720623601
It's good. Fast, agile, cannons pack a punch and can melt anything from battleships to destroyers (the former you need to hit the superstructure), lots of smoke charges, the speed buff lasts quite a while, and very high HP. Alas, at tier X everyone and their mothers carry hydro and radars, so you better watch out for them. Don't bother using torps like jap dds, they're slow and have anemic damage, use them to negate areas. Italian line dds are made mainly to destroy other dds, prioritize them as your target.

>>720614419
Because it lets you go anywhere in the world faster than a horse without having to worry about gay shit lile mountainranges or deserts.

>>720623375
Battleship is the biggest and heaviest and with the highest firepower and stronger armor, they are the flagship basically.

Destroyers are much smaller and their focus is speed and maneuverability above all else, they intercept and destroy other ships with torpedoes.

A cruiser is like a smaller battleship, not as small as a destroyer, usually loaded with anti-air to support the other ships.

Ultimately, aircraft carriers completely and absolutely outclass all 3 because aircraft is beyond broken.

>>720623963
>Ultimately, aircraft carriers completely and absolutely outclass all 3 because aircraft is beyond broken.
Yet a carrier can't go out alone. Curious.

>>720612878 (OP)
I tap 2 blue mana and counter your whole team

>>720623963
They all kneel to anti ship missiles.

Can you stop posting these fake pictures of warships? They actually look like this

>>720624095
all other ships are there to make sure the carrier operates as efficiently as possible. they're literally all support ships and the carrier is the only real power in a fleet.
>subs would still sink them in any real engagement

>>720624325
wrong anime

>>720624329
>all other ships are there to make sure the carrier operates as efficiently as possible. they're literally all support ships and the carrier is the only real power in a fleet.
And what support do they provide? The support of not getting btfo by the next torpedo boat the carrier encounters.
Or let me rephrase: A lone carrier is a sitting duck, it can't do shit, it's utterly helpless

>>720624481
>torpedo boat
lol. like a carrier needs to be in range of one of those

>>720623097
One of the things people in our age can never witness. Watching a warship that costs more than most countries are worth, firing a broadside salvo so furious that this enormous ship skips to the side.

And then lines and lines of those ships, as far as the eye can see, stretching the ocean.

>>720624095
The other ships are there to make sure the aircraft carrier can stay in good condition because it offers the strongest offense and defense at the longest range.

>>720614419
The Mongols say hello.

>>720624735
anon the mongol empire owned korea

>>720624591
Holy mother of sperg, ever heard of "hyperbole"? Say, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today?

>>720624783
lol thats not how hyperbole works
>your carrier could get sunk by a man with a grenade
>thats not even remotely possible
>UUHHHHH HEARD OF HYPERBOLE MUCH?
lol you have no argument at all do you

>>720624767
Whatever nerd, they didn't use boats to invade almost all of eurasia.

>>720624869
coastal routes are easier for supplying an army than land routes, for obvious reasons

>>720623513
IOWA!

>>720612878 (OP)
secondary BB

>>720624865
That is exactly like hyperbole works, and I have already made my point. I'm out, carriercuck.

>>720612878 (OP)
The most fun to play is definitely destroyer because of how hard you can bully battleships and due to how bullshit torpedoes are, they arent really countered by cruisers. I used to like battleships the most but theyre far too fucking slow.

>>720624869
>anons never heard of the grand canals before
lol

>>720624934
Ok and? The point was that the mongols were a huge and relevant military power and empire, without any sea power and for all intents and purposes they were land locked.

>>720625029
Do those go all the way from east easia to eastern europe?

>>720625037
at no point did the mongols ignore sea power when it was the best way to win
>>720625115
ever heard of inland seas? if their opponents were using a water route for naval purposes, the mongols were too

>>720625149
Ah yes, the mongols were well known for their boatsmenship and being a great maritime empire. fucking retard.

>>720623963
>Ultimately, aircraft carriers completely and absolutely outclass all 3 because aircraft is beyond broken.
If that was true every ship would come with a VTOL jet. Instead your carrier needs a fleet of defenders to keep it from getting blown the fuck out by any and every missile and submarine.

>>720612878 (OP)
Always loved DDs so much. It was such a fun class to play. Too bad WG made them increasingly more annoying to play as time went on. At least that's how it was back when I stopped playing.

>>720623867
Should I get Daring or Regolo for my first tier 10 DD?

>>720612878 (OP)
It's torpedo spam destroyers for me

>>720625743
There is very little evidence support fleet will help with submarines and missiles either, we have fuck all real naval combat data for past 50 years. Regardless every carrier group in existence will get a tacnuke treat when shit hits the fan.

>>720624095
Carrier cucks shook
Ship of the line chads cook

Time to spam high-explosive shells.

>>720625743
>>720626072
Naval combat today would be just faggot cruise missiles and drone spam. No more WW2 kino with diverse rosters of ships

>>720623097
if you get to see this live
you are probably too busy reloading the shells or getting shot at

>>720614419
Because naval transport was *the* method for large-scale trade up until ~200 years ago, before trains or larger-scale land transport. If you didn't have a coast or a river, you could only trade in small quantities, and couldn't enjoy the benefits of the economies of scale. The bigger your economy as a result, the more you can flex militarily and the more you have to protect, ergo the bigger the navy and the bigger military presence.

>>720627221
>in reality

>>720624594
They weren't that expensive

>>720624158
I just met this pos in my last game. He just bum rushed my flank and refused to die.

>>720612878 (OP)
Cruisers and destroyers are fire. But I played only console version. It didn't even had subs before

>>720622931
>IJN: after our show of force at Pearl Harbour, their navy is crippled! They could never mount any effective retaliation
>[USN has activated ability 'THE POWER OF MONEY'!]
>IJN: what

>>720628756
Is the console version any good? They port it to Steam and I'm curious.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2964090/World_of_Warships_Legends/

>>720628856
I remember it was just more fast paced (smaller maps).

>>720628031
>Navies aren't expensive
kek
Even if you are the USA and you can build ships faster than they can be sunk, ships are expensive.

>>720628983
A single Virginia class sub only costs like 2 bil. It really is not THAT expensive.

>>720628812
>'THE POWER OF MONEY'
You mean 'THE POWER OF INDUSTRY'.

>>720628812
>ship that only makes birthday cakes for other ships

>>720629086
How the US Navy vs Chink Navy nowadays?

>>720629045
Yes, but the world is much wealthier and more industrialised now. Most countries were much poorer and less industrialised, so a big ship like that really was expensive compared to most countries.

>>720623097
yeah bro imagine blowing your ear drums and getting PTSD to live through this KINO BASED EPIC war where you kill a bunch of strangers because the news told you to
very cool

>>720629060
Sure, but money helps. Buy War Bonds.

>>720625938
daring is a better all rounder. attilio regolo and other italian dds have significantly different playstyles and could put you off if you're not used to them. also daring has smoke/hydro combo which is awesome for wrestling in contested zones with other cvs.

>>720629261
The US navy is still bigger and stronger. You're also comparing a wartime navy of an industrialised USA to a peacetime navy of a financialised USA.

>>720629395
Shut up bitch, only faggots get le ptsd. Especialy from naval combat lol

>>720629451
>cvs
i meant dds

>>720629395
But WW2 was a just war, not a stupid war like WW1 or most wars.

>>720629458
>The US navy is still bigger and stronger.
I dont doubt it, just wondering if in case of war the chinks could out produce US

>>720612878 (OP)
Torpedo boat doko?

>>720629631
Right here.

>>720629429
For the Allies, war bonds were mostly to keep money out of the economy until after the war so that people wouldn't have money to buy consumer goods that would use up resources that the military needed. The Axis, meanwhile, were perma-broke.

>>720614419
Cause the earth is 75% water

>>720629724
I didn't actually know that, I was just meming. Thanks anon for teaching me something new.

>>720629553
>the chinks could out produce US
Probably. They'd just spam crap equipment, while the WW2-era USA spammed good equipment.
The west needs to reindustrialise, not just for war but for the economy in general. Moving industry to China and India was a stupid idea.

>>720614419
>why is the ocean so powerful
Buoyancy is OP. It lets you move massive ships around full of people, things, and weapons with relative ease, and without worrying about things like difficult terrain or having to go through several countries to get to where you need to go.

>>720624735
And Mongolia is now completely irrelevant and exists entirely to be a buffer between Russia and China. Meanwhile, the non-landlocked nations are at least slightly relevant in the modern day.

>>720629540
>WW2 was a just war
Shame that the just side lost.

>>720612878 (OP)
>In theory Battleship beats Cruiser via citadels and longer range
>In practice Cruiser beats Battleship via superior speed, battleships having spread angles surpassing vidya shotguns, and fires ignoring armor
Literal shit-tier game.

>>720617146
One looks at this and cannot help but conclude that humanity is insane.

>>720617146
>>720617969
>strikers 1945

>>720631375
>gets oneshot with 2 citadel hits
skill issue, island hugger. cruisers are made to serve the BBC, Big Battleship Cannon

>>720631515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vSf8oMyaN0

Ships are so cool

>>720631854
>Lol whoops your perfectly lined up shot at 8km straddled the enemy and overpenned the bow/stern
>Lol he just gave you 4 fires in one salvo
>Lol whoops after you repaired them he did it again 15 seconds later

>>720631314
>Bro we need to sperg out and get into an unwinnable war against the entire world!
>Finance capital is good!
Nazis are faggots.

>>720612878 (OP)
Destroyer supremacy

>>720631515
>WW2 thread
>"But what about WW1? Humanity is le bad!"

>>720632048
WW2 was even worse than WW1.

>>720632015
Gee! How come your mom lets you have FIFTEEN torpedoes!

>>720632015
I would put a missile so deep inside that ship

>>720631515
>starving children in Africa could have eaten those shells

>>720632312
>edgy teen retorts with a non sequitur

>>720632151
WW1 was a stupid war between literal cousins. WW2 was a just war between the Germans, Japanese, and Italians sperging out, and the rest of the world not wanting to be wiped out by these retards.

>>720632442
>WW2 was a just war between the Germans, Japanese, and Italians sperging out
Yeah I'm sure the jews had nothing to do with that one in regards to Germany.

>>720632442
Shut up cockroach
>Blimey, oima goo boy, oi d'n do anyfin innit

>>720632312
One of the explosives that were used in WW1 artillery shells was ammonium nitrate. Ammonium nitrate is an important fertiliser that billions of people rely on.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/world-population-with-and-without-fertilizer

>>720632048
>WW2 thread
This is a warship and warship game thread, actually.
Now please stay on topic.

>>720632552
>"Muh Jews!"
>Destroys industrial capital in favour of financial capital
>>720632601
Nazis are the biggest dindus.

>>720632671
>DA JOOZ
Not an argument, they declared war on Germany in 1933.

>>720632671
>Nazis are the biggest dindus.
Oh Nigel, du bringst mich um

>>720632704
>Setting their own parliament on fire is war being declared on them

>>720633142
>The Reichstag was a bunch of jews declaring war on Germany, written in a newspaper
What did he mean by this?

>>720633191
>The news said so, so it must be true
kek

>>720633224
>The jews said so, it must be false
Hold on now!

>>720624594
I was reading Ian Toll's books on the Pacific war, and the pictures and descriptions of the full size of the Third fleet floored me everytime.
>>720629147
And then you have a japanese naval aviator narrating how his wing was preparing for their final sortie and their dinner the evening before is canned crab meat and a bottle of sake

>>720632704
>>720633142
It was a communist who set the Reichtstag on fire though

>>720633526
>One faggot set a massive government building like the German parliament on fire
>On his own
kek