Thread 720613150

2011
>oh boy I want to build a castle!
>make mine
>dig endlessly in any direction
>80% stone
>take it back up
>smelt it
>make castle on flat land that's everywhere
>happy
2025
>oh boy I want to build a castle!
>make mine
>dig 5 blocks of stone
>pocket of andesite
>dig past it
>pocket of granite
>dig past that
>pocket of diorite
>dig past that
>oh boy 20 blocks of stone
>gives way to lush cave
>go back up with the three stacks of stone you've gotten
>have to terraform the land because everything is now lumpy
>bulldoze over three villages and two pillager outposts in your immediate location
>get bored
What happened?

they should just let you build stuff instead of making you do all that mining

they should lose the "Mine" and just call it Craft

You got old, and you realized that Minecraft never tells you that you have failed at anything.

>>720613150 (OP)
microsoft
download beta 1.7.3 and enjoy the game again

thats what mods are for
and playing 1.7.10

Minecraft just seems like the kind of game that gets boring after 15m because of the clear lack of direction

>>720613150 (OP)
>What happened?
The time to have built that castle was in 2011

>>720613150 (OP)
>>720613271
Can't you solve this problem by just playing creative mode?

>>720613150 (OP)
>have to terraform the land
deconstructing the land and rebuilding it for my needs while still looking natural is unironically my favortie part

>>720613150 (OP)
The new terrain generation makes it a pain to build anything big. Now my builds are smaller and more compact since I fucking hate terraforming.

>>720614916
Literally how though? It's such a boring and tedious task...

>>720614732
this
creative exists for a reason, but modern terrain gen still is shit

>>720613150 (OP)
I tried playing it yesterday, but all the new stuff is overwhelming. The last time I've played it, there were no horses. It's a game for people with friends tbf

>>720613150 (OP)
Chicken Jockey

>Not just making a cobblestone generator
It's like you do it to yourself.

>there's not enough stone in minecraft
first time Im hearing this complaint, there's literally endless amount of it, finna fire up minecraft and check

>>720618376
yep, there's still stone

>>720618891
there's also frogs it looks like

>>720618931
and funky looking pigs

>>720613150 (OP)
>digging for stone

>>720613445
*jeb
*alpha 1.1

Guys what servers should I play on if I want to play survival with other people?

The game does not know what it wants to be. It tries to be too many things at once. While ancient MC felt more like a sandbox, now it feels more of an adventure RPG game. This loss of focus is also the loss of it's soul.

Why not just make a cobblestone generator??

>>720617616
>>720619674
>>720621174
stripmining also gets you ores and is more engaging than going afk infront of a cobble gen, which i think is why op didnt do that
i have to agree, the new stone types are ass and i hate the way they are randomly spread everywhere

>>720620282
On a self hosted one filled with your friends

>>720613150 (OP)
>have to terraform the land
Adapt your build to the terrain instead, it's going to end up looking better that way too. Castles look best when they're on top of a hill overlooking the land below.

Castles look better when you use all the different stones to create texture.
Rather than it all looking like shitty stone.

>>720627008
Right looks like trash garbage cuckold faggotry and I'm tired of pretending it's better than left

>>720627149
>t. Creativity stuck in elementary school tier

>>720627008
blockvomit
why not throw some dead coral in while you're at it

>>720613150 (OP)
skill issue perhaps
I've been playing minecraft since alpha as a little shit
as a kid it was
>oh boy I want to build to stuff
>make a block house
>make a strip mine
>get diamonds
>get diamond gear
>quit because I didn't know what to do
in 2025 alone I've ran through multiple worlds where I got my best gear and then built for hours and hours before getting bored of those builds and starting a new world to go again

>>720627008
TRVTH
NVKE

>>720617504
Reminder to watch the superior version of the movie
https://youtu.be/j0qOayrW824?si=rZhHLADq19eVTGVM

>>720627008
Blud really thought he was cooking with that mess on the right SKULL

>>720623281
You can set it up to mine itself and auto-smelt into stone though. Surely you've taken the automation pill?

>>720613150 (OP)
>mining stone for a castle instead of generating cobble
Retard

APPROVED STONE TYPES
>stone
>cobblestone
>mossy cobblestone
>stone bricks (and subblocks)
>old stone slabs/smooth stone or whatever it's called now
>sandstone
>smooth sandstone
Anything else is mental illness
I would give deepslate or blackstone a pass if they were literal dark stone variants but instead they gave them those retarded bubbly textures because Jappa is a hack outdone by some fat Swedish retard who had basically no texturing experience
>>720627008
No.

>>720627008
Nah that's slop. For me, it's this.

>>720627008
i prefer the abstract simple symbolic look of the left

the right one wants to go for more realism, which is cringe

>>720623281
They're not mutually exclusive, you leave a cobble generator running by your base while you drop down under it and strip mine. You can use the always loaded spawn chunks or set up an ender stasis chamber to keep the chunk its in loaded if your mine is further away.

Play modded retard

>>720627839
What are some good mods?

>>720627937
Tectonic is probably the worldgen in his pic, and Terralith adds a bunch of biomes with zero new blocks or items to bloat the game

oh no more blocks to build with, why would mojang add this, are they retarded?

>>720627839
what worldgen is this? I really like terraforged but it hasn't gotten a stable release in like 3 years (last unstable is the super broken 1.20 half completed port and stable is from like 1.18)

>>720627976
That sounds fun, I'll try them out when I get my friends around for a server

Fuck you're making me want to check Minecraft.

>>720628005
>oh no more blocks to build with, why would mojang add this, are they retarded?
This but unironically

>>720627008
If you use them as slight color variations of the same texture, sure
But the thing on the right is fuckugly trash that maybe only looks good if you're miles away

minecraft should've used something similar to stacked dimensions to give the illusion of a deeper/higher world and stuff all the annoying shit deeper down, and re-balance progression through this mechanic.
they could have a near infinite world depth with that, but instead they choose to do that dumb shit they're currently doing.

>>720629198
>stacked dimensions
I actually really like that concept, shit just continuing to go deeper and deeper is pretty damn cool, especially since you'd need to go out of your way to prepare for expeditions to lower layers.

>>720613150 (OP)
You're supposed to place a water and lava block next to each other with a one block gap and harvest infinite cobblestone

I like the different stones

>>720627008
You've done it now! You've triggered the /mcg/ tards!

>>720627008
Finely crafted bait

>>720613150 (OP)
>oh boy 20 blocks of stone
build stone generator
>have to terraform the land because everything is now lumpy
flatworld autist
>two pillager outposts
how big you you want to build, those are pretty rare and far apart from each other, also enjoy pillagers spawning inside your castle
>get bored
thats a you problem, no one can help you with
>What happened?
you grew up and lost all your imagination or are a zoomer with an attention span of 10 minutes

>>720613445
I hate minecraft, but remember having a lot of good times with this version. I feel like adding extra layers/biomes was the right moves, but once i saw the fireworks update i was like "wtf" is the direction for this game.
I thought we'd have sky castles and actual adventure by now, like a real reason to go all the way out there.

>>720627839
>tells people to play modded
>doesn't say what mods they are
Every time

>>720631074
Why would you listen to other people's preferences when it comes to Minecraft mods? Download Modrinth or CurseForge and look for whatever might interest you.

>>720631074
That guy is a fag and doesnt know.
Looks like he got the image from here.

https://www.namehero.com/gaming-blog/minecraft-distant-horizons-a-complete-guide/

Which is about installing Distant Horizons.

If I had to guess.
It's Lithosphere for the terrain gen. With Distant Horizons and Bliss Shaders.

>>720631528
I found the exact modpack the image is from:

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/distant-horizons-pack-with-shaders/relations/dependencies

>>720627008
dark souls did irrevocable damage to society

>>720631730
Why? Because your uncreative ass think a wall of just stone is good looking?
Get with the times.

>>720631902
certainly looks better than pic on the right, you can add some rare "decaying" blocks to make it look more "lived in", but there's no need to make it a ruin

are copper golems in yet?

>play modpack that requires lots of building space for all the shit it adds like multiblock structures or whatever
>try to think of a cool base idea
>end up accidentally making gigantic featureless box or WTC-esque skyscraper every single time

>>720632386
Don't be afraid of having dead space inside your structures

>>720631621
Based, thanks

>>720613150 (OP)
>doesn't want stone variety for castle
>thinks that flat land is good
>can't figure out how to make a castle around structures (implying you got a seed with 3 villages and two outposts that were going to take up the footprint of your monochrome castle)

Is there a good modpack for any version of the game pre-ender dragon?

>>720633201
I'm pretty sure Beta 1.7.3 is one of the community recognized mod 'stasis' periods where people are still developing for, this is pre experience / hunger so if that's your jam go for it

the other ones are 1.12 and 1.16 (forgot exact release versions)

1.20.1 MAYBE will be the next mod stasis era considering how many aren't catching up to 1.21

>>720620282
2fort.org

>>720613150 (OP)
If only we lived in the timeline where Notch didn't take the money and leave and he fully realized his vision of a 3D Dwarf Fortress

>>720632386
Just build multiple buildings. Your base becomes a box because you cram everything together like an apartment building. If you build a town instead of a base it looks way better.

>>720627008
Bad example, but you are right and these boomers are forever stuck on walls being one texture.

>>720634592
This only looks good if it's supposed to be some kind of backfill material, like mixing cobblestone and gravel. Building walls out of it is silly. this would look 100x better with purposeful patterns and adornments rather than random block noise. It makes it feel like a build someone made with worldedit and didn't give a shit about details

>>720627008
Ah yes, the good ol' block diarrhea where you mix random blocks for no good reason to make your build look like it was made by a mental retarded child

>>720634592
looks like ass >>720634931 this anon is right

>>720631074
play atm9 the only good modpack to exist

>>720627008
how about you add a fucking window

>>720635565
This looks like shit theres no pop it's just stone.

>>720635616
>pop
the fuck is that?

>>720635565
>>720635720
>super flat
>all stone

Yeah not beating the allegations LMAO
>>720633083

>>720636042
*beats you to death instead*

>>720613150 (OP)
You are an autistic retard.

worst part about these is that if you actually WANT to build with them you have to stripmine for the random intermittent patches of it

>>720636042
what is a creative test world? and no I won't build around structures or shitty world gen, i will shape the world by my hand however I please

>>720636490
Looks so fucking flat lmao

>>720636524
post build so I can laugh

>>720636158
>you bloody bastard

>>720636042
>blockvomit faggot
noose it

does anyone fuck with conquest reforged?

>>720638023
That ain’t blockvomit, that’s just the sound everyone makes when they see yet another stone wall from you.

>>720639657
post more dogshit like >>720634592 fag

>>720613445
>beta 1.7.3
Minecraft at it's peak. I cannot emphasize enough that the adventure update was the worst fucking this to happen to this game.

>>720640020
You got filtered by food lmao

>>720613150 (OP)
That's a minor problem.
The problem now is
>I want to make a castle!
>Create trading hall
>Create 3 types of farms
>trade
>Beat game
>Make 5 mega farms
>grind for resources
>Finally have enough to build castle
>Set it up a little
>Don't play the next day
>The burn out got you and next time you want to play you'll make a new world and not continue
>You burned out because you never got to what you wanted to do in the first place and never saw any small progress of things you wanted and instead just made what you "needed" and it wasn't your vision or desire, just a stepping stone to what you want


It's like a metaphor for life. Enjoy the ride, if you wait for "Life to start" you'll be 90 and wondering where it all went.

>>720627008
Right's too busy.
You need more base consistency and then season it with variety, not just randomize the whole thing.

>>720640124
Perhaps. I bought, played and enjoyed the game for a specific kind of experience. 1.7.3 was the last patch that offered me that experience.

The hunger mechanic is easily trivialized. But you know what it does? It creates busywork. It creates this thing I didn't ask for that I need to maintain. A thing that occasionally makes me stop the part of the game I actually enjoy because some swedish dipshit decided to follow a trend and implement survival meters.

I also didn't care for experience and level ups. And while it was later additions, I didn't care for things like the Ender Dragon being made. The idea of implementing a boss fight in this game was and is antithetical to what I wanted to do with this game.

>>720640748
Creative is still around anon

>>720627595
Fuck you tuff is great

>>720627719
very nice

>>720640843
He's absolutely right, and "I don't want to manage an annoying timed bar" is very different from "I don't want to engage with ANY of the game systems, including monsters, collection, exploration, or crafting"

>>720641301
Then don't play in survival mode. It's that easy.

>>720641365
Fucking retard

>>720641365
but i had breakfast

>>720640748
There's zero reason to bitch about hunger
/effect give @p saturation infinite 10 true
^this one line removes the hunger mechanic from the game.
inb4 more excuses

>>720641836
That gives infinite free healing THOUGH.

>>720641836
except that makes you heal when before you used food to heal

>>720641924
>>720641943
/gamerule naturalRegeneration false

Any other excuses, faggotrons?

>>720642034
so how do you heal then
that still dosent make food heal

>>720642172
Golden apples and healing pots.
if you want free instant healing from infinite stacks of food then >>720641365 is right honestly

>>720636197
shes's cute

>>720640748
you nostalgiafags realize that the launcher has an archive version going all the way back to indev right? you can literally just go play 1.7.3

>>720642509
they dont play games

>>720642509
They don't play the game anymore, they just want to bitch even when builds all the way to indev are availible.

>>720613150 (OP)
>>720627839
minecraft has the same issue now that it's had from day 1. no mods have come close to fixing it because they always just stack more slop onto the pile, not unlike what microsoft has been doing despite being a quadrillion dollar company with the biggest video game IP in the world.

the world does not interact with YOU in any meaningful way. nothing fucking happens. you can box yourself in a dirt hut and then fast forward time 500 thousand years and fucking NOTHING will change.
>villagers don't build or roam
>mobs don't raid your structures and don't actually give a shit. not a real threat after a few nights.
>water doesn't erode sand and rivers don't gradually change course
>wildfires don't exist anymore
>biomes serve no purpose other than aesthetic. they have temperature and humidity values but there's zero fucking impact on the actual world.
>there's not even any changes to how well plants can grow in different biomes. Wheat will grow the same in snow as it does tropical.
>snow literally does nothing. there's no heat or survival elements. snow doesn't slow you down or require any special items to traverse. you don't need fire to keep warm.
>some blocks have physical properties like damage resistance but it's not used in any meaningful way.
>no weight/physics mode where blocks can't be floating, and you actually have to build adequate supports for structures.

I'm not saying the game has to be some sort of hyper-realistic survival game, but it needs SOMETHING interactive.

>>720642509
They refuse to play in "protest"

>>720642857
They added small illager invasion parties but they'll never add anything more than that because they have to design the game for literal autistic children. If anything is too disruptive it could cause actual real-life harm to mentally unstable retards so they can't add anything too stimulating. Especially not anything that breaks blocks. If the creeper were pitched today it'd be scrapped.

>>720642857
>I'm not saying the game has to be some sort of hyper-realistic survival game
It sounds like you are saying that. Fact is the game is digital lego, it's meant to be simple.

>>720613150 (OP)
Are you retarded OP?

>>720613150 (OP)
Don’t you people have autism? I thought terraforming was fun to you

>>720636197
i NEED kanaya on my dick NOW

>>720642857
>no mods have come close to fixing it because they always just stack more slop onto the pile
Wrong. Most things you mention are possible with mods.

is the AMPLIFIED gen worth messing with?

>Still no biome updates
>Got a sakura tree before palms and baobabs

>>720646764
It's a unique experience. Traversing, even on short distances, is a pain, but creating pathways and making the land you conquer easier to navigate feels rewarding. Finding things overground becomes a tougher challenge than finding diamonds underground, not necessarily in a fun way. You will jump A LOT, that's easily the worst part. Absolutely wouldn't play with it all the time, but as a one-time challenge, why not.

>>720647663
>this is what palm wood looks like

>>720613445
only credit i will give mojang and microsoft is the fact that you can easily play the game at any previous version with the click of a button.

>>720642598
>>720642734
>>720642509
>>720643130
also people a re even making mod packs and new stuff for older versions specifically 1.7.3 and mojang has made doing all that very easy. cant hate them for this at all

>>720613150 (OP)
>play an old version
>get an oddly unsettling but at the same time comforting ambience
>play a modern version
>it's sterile, no soul
When did the change happen?

>>720623281
Stripmining is gay and for retards. Now that caves are big you can get all the ores you'll ever need from caving.

>>720640748
fucking this
hunger bar is such a pointless feature when the health system was already fine and not worth bothering with, and now it's been there so long most mods won't support pre-adventure versions of the game these days

>>720627008
that specific example is fucking awful, the bricks look disgusting now imagine going "yes I want my castle to be as cobbled-together as possible"

>>720627839
I prefer datapacks, since they're so easy to tinker with.

>>720627719
i appreciate the time you took to do that anon

>>720650489
You're actually retarded because stripmining still nets you the most once you have an efficiency pickaxe.

>>720613445
1.7.3 was already ruined by tall grass

>>720651157
Hardly, even efficiency V isn't enough to instamine deepslate, and all the actually relevant ore to mine is in deepslate.

>>720651403
It's faster than walking through a cave for several minutes and maybe coming across an exposed vein, to say nothing of having to fight shit while you do

>>720651483
>It's faster than walking through a cave for several minutes and maybe coming across an exposed vein
This is how I know you don't actually play the game, this is just a straight up lie you're making up to try to bolster your argument.
Also fighting shit is hardly a problem if you have a shield which trivializes combat.

>>720651747
Look at ore distribution, then look at an average cave map, you are missing a ton of ore while walking around pointlessly caving, stripmining IS faster and there's nothing you can do about it.
>Also fighting shit is hardly a problem if you have a shield which trivializes combat.
It's not that it's a problem, it's that it eats up your time.

>>720638851
I like the texture pack, but for actual reforged the amount of options are too overwhelming for me.

>>720627719
Let's see Paul Allen's wall

>>720651912
Unless you're planning on using those thousands of deepslate you'll be mining it absolutely is not faster than caving in a large cave system.
Also stripmining is mind-numbingly boring, but if you're too scared of killing monsters then you're free to cope that stripmining is better.

>>720652412
>packrat
Just drop the deepslate, you don't have to keep everything you mine, and that's coming from someone who builds a lot of shit with deepslate.

>>720627839
terrain gen like this is so aids to play

>PSA
Anyone who copies farms from tutorials, and tries to get enchantments, netherite, and the elytra as fast as possible is a fag and gay.

Go build a castle like OP.

>>720652708
>copies farms from tutorials
Nearly everyone does this, including you

>>720613150 (OP)
>What happened?
You grew up

>>720642857
this. give me 3d dwarf fortress already

>>720652774
I don't because it's more fun trying to build it without help. I realized that by watching AboutOliver's blind playthrough.

>>720613150 (OP)
What's the point of these threads, you can still play the 2011 version...?

>>720613150 (OP)
Genuinely insane how fucked terrain gen is now. It’s been years now

>>720652919
>watching people play video games
I really don't think you're in a position to say who's gay and who isn't

>>720653292
Ah of course, but using an imageboard does.

>>720616105
>Literally how though? It's such a boring and tedious task
You can start by not playing like a bitch. Disable skip nights, do your teraforming while having to fight shit off. Its your fault for playing in an ass numbingly shiny way anon

>>720654775
I think the need to terraform is pathetic already.
the coolest builds are those that adapt the shape of the terrain, and these easiest way to make it work is by having smaller "rooms" (on the side of a cliff, in a valley, on top of the hill, etc, and then have them interconnected with tunnels.
I will admit, plains biome generating mountains is stupid.

>>720652869
>>720642857

>>720656097
these are all really good additions, but it's still just a start. the game really needs a core mechanics overhaul

>>720656097
>lists a bunch of incompatible mods for random versions of the game and mod loaders

>>720627008
Right looks way worse
Just have your builds be architecturally complex enough to avoid the issue tbdesu

>>720627753
This anon gets it
concept > detail

>>720650468
Somewhere around 1.8-1.13

>>720653196
Modern Minecraft development seems be less about game design and more about vibes. I think they decided to cater towards the “comfy games” audience

>>720657791
minecraft inherently works better as a abstract

>>720648184
>mojang has made doing all that very easy
Don't do anything comically evil for once and you're apparently making it "very easy" for players. "Working" at Mojang must feel like heaven.

>>720656718
you're asking for a completely different game. just play vintage story

>>720652572
Maybe if you're brown.

>>720662229
vintage story is way too fucking autistic. I'm not in the mood to grind on a video game after a long day at work.

I just want minecraft where the world is more reactive. That's not too much to ask for.

>>720627008
preach it brother