Thread 720618291

> Wanna get into Warhammer
> Would need to play like 50 different games

Yawn.
How the fuck are people even into Warhammer? Do they just not play 99% of its games?

play darktide and then the dawn of war games. boom, youre done

You don't need to play any games.

>>720618291 (OP)
>Wanna get into Star Wars
>would need to drink 10 different Phantom Manace Pepsi cans stored in the Ray Skywaler fridge
That's literally what you sad. You don't get into thing by buying all the promotional ads

>>720618291 (OP)
>Would need to play like 50 different games

Lmao what, playing 50 games would do nothing for you. If you want to understand the lore you need to read like 50 books instead

>>720618483

More like
>Wanna get into star wars
> Need to watch the 6 original movies and maybe the new 3 disney ones (and the han solo spin off)

That's a lot of movies to watch.
You comparing playing videogames on a franchise you experience through videogames to "drinking pepsi is the same as watching star wars movies" is very retarded.

>>720618607
Star Wars is a movie franchise. Warhammer isn't a video game franchise.
Gettign inot Warhammer through games is like getting into Star Wars WITHOUT watching the movies

>>720618291 (OP)
>Roberto Giggleman

>>720618709
>Warhammer isn't a video game franchise.

What's Warhammer then? :)

orkz iz best

>>720618709
Unironically dumb take

Dawn of War Dark Crusade
Space Marine
you can skip everything else

>>720618949
primarily a tabletop wargame and painting minis

>>720618291 (OP)
i don't know anything about warhammer, but i play a lot of darktide and vermintide. at some point you just catch some stuff as you play.

>>720618291 (OP)
Why the fuck would you want to "get into" being a mentally ill lorefag?
>ooohhh nooo the official loremaker made these shitty ugly looking new marines the standard in this arbitrary, fictional setting now I must throw away all my cool looking obsolete miniatures and play dollhouse with the new ones certified as canon by the official loremakers of this completely made up bullshit piece of utter fiction

>>720618291 (OP)
>Would need to play like 50 different games
???
Why?

>>720619485

> I'm gonna get into Game of thrones
> But i'm only gonna watch the first episode and drop it

>>720618291 (OP)
Yeah, just play whatever games you find cool. My first was Dawn of War, many years ago. I've played a fair few Warhammer games since then but only because they looked cool, not because I was trying to keep track of everything Warhammer.

>>720619575
But that's not even remotely comparable you retard, Warhammer is a setting and all the games's stories are independent. Game of Thrones is one story.

>>720619326
what a retarded take lol

>>720619929
But enough about your crippling mental illness.

>>720618291 (OP)
There's a lot of material, don't get into it, you'd be doing us a favor.

>>720620090
hahaha you got nothing

>>720620370
>u dum
>no u
>uhhh where's your peer reviewed argument?
Average brainrot of a pizza-faced dorkhammer fag.

>>720618291 (OP)
you dont need to consume everything in warhammer to enjoy warhammer. just pick a faction you like and look into what content it has available. Games arent 40ks strong suit anyway. I recently started reading some of the novels and they have been by far the best part of the franchise for me. Anyway the good games are: darktide, dawn of war, rogue trader & mechanicus. Space marine is decent (idk about the second one) so is boltgun, necromunda looks cool but is pretty meh. Same thing for space hulk

>>720621023
>just pick a faction you like

What factions are there?

>>720621245
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/the-rules/playing-this-game/

>>720621023
>idk about the second one
Way better than the first

>>720621023
>mechanicus
>good
Did you actually play it? What did you find enjoyable about it? The godawful UI? The quasi time limit to the campaign? The utterly awful balance that abrubtly, not even halfway through the game, makes the enemies go from intolerable damage sponges (which further decreases your campaign time limit) to every battle, even the major bosses just being oneshot in a single buff stack + attack cycle? The awful dubstep?

>>720621245
https://www.wargamer.com/warhammer-40k/factions
>>720621367
>links 9th edition
Lol
Lmao, even

>>720621245
Alien factions:
>Space Orcs
>Space Elves
>Space Dark Elves
>Space Dwarves
>Space Japanese Communists
>Curse of the Space Pharaohs Space Tomb
>Xenomorphs
Human:
>Space Catholic space marines (like from Alien)
>Space Knights Templar. These guys are the main characters whom 80% of all fiction is based. These guys are divided into a billion subfactions each with their own little gimmick like "Vikings" or "Vampires" or "Generic Default Blue Guys".
>Space Brotherhood of Steel
>Space Dominatrix's \
Chaos Factions:
>Space Knights Templar who have betrayed the other humans and sworn themselves to space hell. These guys are the antagonists in like 80% of the Fiction.
>Space Demons.
There are a few other minor factions that regularly get cancelled or folded into other ones but they don't matter.

>>720621581
we don't talk about 10E

>>720621851
get help holy shit

>>720621959
?

>>720621245
what interests you the most?
catholic coded humanity?
cyborg coded humanity?
bdsm coded humanity?
space elves desperately surviving their societal collapse?
space elves (but dark) that do bdsm torture to cope with their societal collapse?
egyptian robotic skeletons that are slowly reawakening after millenias of sleep?
the flood from halo?
japanese coded blue aliens that are like communist indians?
orks but in space?
dwarves but in space?
those are the main factions and they have a bunch of sub factions for further exploration if you pick one.
>>720621497
its good by 40k standards, but yes the game is piss easy even on the hardest difficulties I am aware. Nontheless I enjoyed it and its OST's

>>720621832
Space dwarfs are human midgets

>>720622083
https://warhammer40000.com/the-armies/
geedubbs lists them under xenos

>>720621851
>We will continue to diversify
They're honestly doing a really good job of staying true to their word. Literally every single 40k game I play is more woke than the one before it.

>>720621982
The real redpill is realizing that the cyborg humans ARE the catholic humans. The wider Imperial cult is fairly explicitly Protestant with its million denominations and the Thorian Reformation while the Cult Mechanicus is the one that goes all out on catechisms, parades of praying priests, and constant schisms.

>>720618291 (OP)
>Fantasy
>Total War Warhammer
>(Maybe some old rpg I forgot about)

Fantasy doesn't have too many great games I'm aware of even though it's the superior setting

>40k
>Space Marine
>Battlefleet Gothic Armada
>Mechanicus

Haven't played much else 40k related

>>720618291 (OP)
Just play DoW and Space Marine 1 and 2. DoW is as good as it gets because of visuals and voice acting aline.

>>720622182
your brain is broken

>>720621982
>>720621832
Is there an undead zombie faction? like the undead from warcraft? i like undead.

>>720622795
Necrons are cyber-undead that had their entire species digitized and uploaded only to realize it was kind of a raw deal so now 90% of their population are barely sentient robo-skeletons.
Death Guard and the closely related Nurgle demons are devotees of the god of disease and plague and hopelessness that definitely look like bloated infested zombies.

>>720618291 (OP)
Dawn of War 1 is the only good 40k game period.

>>720622405
true, god I really love the imperium its such a beautiful cluster fuck, I cant think of anything like it in other fiction
>>720622795
kind of, the bdsm coded humanity I meant is basically humanity that is servering one of 4 gods of hell. One of those gods (nurgle) is the god of disease and plagues and he has zombies in his faction but also a lot more than just that. You fight against one of his cults in darktide

>>720618291 (OP)
You post minis first

just started painting
give tips pls
got some synthetic brushes
do I clean them just by putting them on a water cup and stroking them?
also are there any d&d minis out there?

>>720618291 (OP)
i just watch lore videos about my favorite factions
orkz are cool because they like to fight and never give up
WAAAGH!!!

>>720618991
WWAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHHH

>>720623387
there are no "official" DnD minis, just call up your buddy with a 3D printer.

>>720619081
Necromunda and Rogue Trader were alright.

>>720622140
well, geedubs are retarded

>>720623247
>nids
basado

>>720618291 (OP)
Just play the good videogames and don't worry about it
The lore is either shit or will be made retroactively shit by retarded writers so there's no real point buying into it when you know you'll just be disappointed
Focus on your own experience first and foremost

>>720618607
>want to get into a MOVIE franchise
>wtf what do you mean I have to watch the movies?
retard

>>720623387
Yes, take care of your brushes, learn with cheap ones so you don't mess with expensive stuff, same with paints, most acryllic paints just werk
Rinse them with water and that's it. If they get clogged, use isopropyl alcohol and you can get rid of it

And as far as minis go, I just print in resin all my stuff. There's a fuckTON of awesome sculptors just about of any setting, any game and any style, even got inspired and started sculpting my own.

These are from Bestiarum Miniatures. Awesome studio

>>720623741
You all know Warhammer isn't really a video game franchise, yeah?
This is like asking which Batman video games to play to get into Batman.

>>720623687
Thank you, i've never got the chance to play my "norn" nids but this one time

>>720623809
>>720623645
thanks anons <33

>>720623668
that they are indeed

>>720623645
>>720623387
This was a party I made for a homebrew game but sadly never came through, also Bestiarum Minis

>>720618291 (OP)
Leutin09 has an awesome lore series if you're not interesting in reading the books

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6M9-oFEKpk&

I'd highly recommend reading the first 3 Horus Heresy books though

>be me as kid
>dad got me Company of Heroes
>The disc came with Dark Crusade demo
>Thought the space marines were cooler than the tau in the demo
>so backtracked to Dawn of War 1 and started there
I think modern abundance is in itself a poison. Autists and the weak willed can't handle all the choices.

Do men really make and paint little toys of this warhammer thing?

Ick.

>>720623387
>do I clean them just by putting them on a water cup and stroking them?
Basically. For those with a tip you do want to drag them in a rolling motion over paper, or past your lips, to keep the tip shaped.
Always make sure not to cover the whole brush with paint, the upper 3rd should stay clean.
If color gets in there it tends be hard to get out and make the bristles splay to the outside when it dries. Makes the painting experience way worse.

>any d&d minis out there
There are tons of resin prints available that work for D&D

>>720618291 (OP)
bruh
the only good 40K games are Space Marine 2, the first two Dawn of War games, and Rogue Trader. maybe the 40k game that revolves around giant spaceships and space combat if you're into that niche. everything else is mid or shovelware.

>>720624102

Thanks anon, i'll check it out. God bless you.

>>720624328
>this poast
Wtf man.

>>720618291 (OP)
Easy. You start simple and check out the stuff you find appealing in proxy to your other interests like certain vidya genres, then you see if you have any interest in any part of the setting and maybe the other mediums it comes in. Games like Dawn of War (for 40k) and Total Warhammer (for Fantasy) got a lot more people into the hobby.

>>720624150
Better than therapy

>>720624438
it's true, man. Games Workshop never bothers trying to get reputable devs to make Warhammer games, period. they give the license to people who will work cheaper. even Saber Interactive are kind of a Great Value studio, and Owlcat is DEFINITELY a Great Value studio.

>>720624328
darktides gameplay (and ost) is very good. it just suffers from shit characters and content drought

>>720623809
what are these minis? Are these age of sigmar undead? looks dark soulish. Reminds me of the old Rackham miniatures too.

>>720618291 (OP)
> Wanna get into spider man
> Would need to read 800 years worth of comics

Yawn.
How the fuck are people even into spider man? Do they just not read 99% of his comics?

>>720624150
Men don't.

I recommend all newcomers to 40k to check out "Astartes" - its in many 40k veterans opinions one of the best depictions of the setting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpK4fcFNKbM&list=RDJpK4fcFNKbM&start_radio=1

>>720624765

https://bestiarumgames.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooX3yGnYiLDAp1NojyVTc13spwuTbo6bxiMT8Z6-XjkSQ3A_Jpj

>>720621863
Or 9th, or 8th , or 7t, or 6th or...
Man they shat the bed ages ago imo.
I miss my 3rd and 4th edition.

>>720625549
thanks anon

>>720625051
>marines look like generic stormtroopers in pristine matte armor, dull color schemes, no ornaments, no purity seals
>they're all mute for some reason
gay as fuck
just play games for the best depiction

>>720625549
>>720625718
Oh, and here you can check out Rackham miniatures. I dont think they are very well known in the US but I could be wrong. They look more comicy but have some really good models. Heres the undead.
https://cadwallon.com/rackham-confrontation?filters=confrontation/undead-of-acheron|_stock_status/instock

>>720625797
>>they're all mute for some reason
>noooo, why do my elite specialized shock troops perfectly executing a boarding not take off their helmet and scream "for the emperor" nooooo

>>720621023
>just pick a faction you like and look into what content it has available
>pick any faction but speehs mayreens or speehs mayreens but evil
>there's no content
Gee thanks

>>720625664
this.
I miss my vehicle damage. now everything is just a monster and behaves identical to a small infantry model.

>>720626203
Welcome to GW where anything cool and interesting gets ignored.

>>720618949
It's a tabletop strategy game.

The lore is all written inside tons of books. And the purpose of that lore is to make your units appear so badass you are willing to shell out like 200 bucks for a single model of them.

>>720625893
>bro they're heckin epic call of duty operators bro!!!!! :skull:
lmfao

>>720626423
weak bait

>>720622795
You don't get much undeath in 40k because the setting runs mostly on shity psionics instead of normal magic, making necromancy not realy a thing.
You'd need to go to other GW IPs for unded, but then the question is how much you care about zombies specifically, because they're far from the most supported type of corpse (unleas you count canibal hillbillies as basiclly zombies)

>>720626581
theres in-lore zombie hordes, courtesy of nurgle and le scary space virusses. some genestealer instances also apply. mass mind control is also a thing.

>>720626713
Yeh, but that's a virus zombie, not a real undead. You're gettign 28 days later vibes, not warcraft like he asked.
Plus they're all summed up to like 1 unit in Nurgle Marines

>>720622795
Nothing under Nurgle seems to stay dead. Whatever it is, it'll get back up on its feet and infect someone with space aids.

95% of 40k games are literal shovelware
just play Dawn of War(skip 3), Space Marine, and Rogue Trader and you are good

>>720618291 (OP)
>MTG constantly spammed on /v/ now
>Warhammer constantly spammed on /v/ now
>prices keep going up and up and up and things keep getting harder to get before scalpers scoop it all up

Literally no hobby is safe any more

>>720627682
>now

>>720623247
Those look rad

>>720627682
Bro... Warhammer was always priced lick cocaine
This is nothing new. Even in 2000 people complained about the price.

>>720618291 (OP)
>want to get into Warhammer
>without the effort of playing or reading the materials first
and firsties though they had it bad with secondaries....

>>720627882
>>720627730
It’s never been this bad and you look at price charts shit has gone exponential. The Warhammer set used to be 60 when it came out they’re now $250 after just 1 year.

>>720618291 (OP)
Just binge watch the entire MLP series and you are good to go.

Blood Bowl 40K when

>>720619326
Based

>>720628049
No not really.
Battle ofr Marcragge was £40 in 2004, ca. £72.5 now or ca. $98.
That box gave you 10 Marines, a bit of terrain, an objective guys which doesn't have any rules real rules outside of the scenario, 10 Termagants, 6 Genestealers, 8 Spore Mines, dice, templates and rules.

Today's most comparable thing is the Starter Set at $112.
That gets you 5 Marines, 5 Terminators, 1 SM Captain, 20 Termagants, 3 Von Ryan’s Leapers, 1 Psychophage, 1 Winged Tyranid Prime, also 2 Ripper Swarms but those don't really matter. And then also the rules, dice etc.
Points wise that offers more than the 4th Edition starter box, with the price being not much higher.

>>720628494
Starter sets always were the free or cheaper first hit you get from your dealer. They are the sole exception in the pricing and always were. These miniatures also are ALWAYS of lower quality with fewer options and different sprites so they arent an ultra kitbash box.

>>720618291 (OP)
Just play whatever looks interesting and you'll pick up stuff as you do
Warhammer isn't even a videogame franchise to begin with

>>720626713
>>720626846
Nurgle likes viruses because it's life growing from another life, same with maggots and mold growing out of death in a cyclical nature.
Concept of a sterile skeleton moving through magic genuinely disgusts him

>>720628569
So? >>720628049 said
As a different example lets take the Imperial Guard Cadian Battleforce(2009) that was around $120, so around $172 now.
Combat Patrol: Astra Militarum is $170 now.
Yes personally I do think they those Combat Patrols look like ass fom their content: 1x Command Squad, 10x Attilan Rough Riders (two box sets), 10x Kasrkin
But that ain't the point.
40k was always overpriced shit, it hasn't gotten any worse, aside from inflation, because it was always shit.

>>720618291 (OP)
>need
what?
oh its a shitpost
carry on

>>720623663
fuck off faggot no one cares about rpg slop

>>720618291 (OP)
>> Would need to play like 50 different games
No

If it wasn't written by Andy Chambers of Rick Priestley it is not canon.

>>720621832
>>Space Brotherhood of Steel
>>Space Catholic space marines (like from Alien)
>>Space Knights Templar.
these are really bad descriptions
im into 40k and i cant decipher it.

>>720626846
this is a nitpick but the Curse/Plague of Unbelief is a Nurgle disease that kills and then reanimates humans as plague zombies.

>>720618291 (OP)
>Wants get into Warhammer
>Posts Warhammer 40.000
ngmi

>>720624702
Darktide is barely a 40K game except for the music, like 2 enemies, maybe 6 of the weapons, and some of the armor you have to pay real money for. you just run around identical cooridors shooting zombie soldiers.

>>720618291 (OP)

Was never really into it but finished Rogue Trader and now am all about it. Space Marine II next.

>>720630302
Hamas Piker should definitly be on there but i don't think he is smart enough to be Tzeench

>>720630302
Wouldn't finnster be the archetypical champion of slaanesh? Considering how deep he went down the rabbit hole.

>>720630302
There's nothing excesive about a bitch sitting with her shirt undone. You'd need some lolcow shoving dildos up his ass for views to represent Slaanesh.
Like real Chris Chan/ Nicado Avocado type shit

>>720618291 (OP)
There's literally no point in getting into 40k as a setting due to how stagnant it is and it's inability to have anything of note actually happen outside of which big faction character returns so they can be sold on the tabletop.

>>720631572
>stagnant
I wish.
They advanced the timeline and everything turned to shit following that.

>>720631708
Didn't they instantly backpeddal after making Gorilaman Emperor Regent or whatever?
Only thing that real moved is Cadia being dead

>>720631762
We still got votann, primarchs, primaris, ynnead, nucrons and all that nonsense
I never wanted to lose my eternal summer of M41.999

What's with tabletop trannies spamming this board?

>>720630302
Nico Avocado is a Slaaneshi champion since he perfectly represents excess.

Larry Fink for Tzeentch since he loves to do stupid plans that ends up backfiring on his company.

>>720618291 (OP)
what
if you like rts play dawn of war
if you like tps play space marine
if you like fps play darktide (personally not a fan of this even though I enjoy fps)

men of war assault squad 2 warhammer mod
thank me later

>>720633305
Isn't that solely for the editor?

>>720618291 (OP)
play whichever game you like. Listen to the funny italian lore guy on youtube as background noise

>>720633305
i was a little shocked when i checked it out (i was just playing vanilla). like 15 factions and 30 units per