Thread 720619875

The ABSOLUTE state of NVIDIA.

>>720619875 (OP)
Now compare Blender performance!

>>720620082
What video game is that?

>>720619875 (OP)
>still not falling for the AMD meme
>still not falling for the Linux meme
>still not falling for the console

>>720619875 (OP)
still not buying amd lmao

>>720619875 (OP)
>I'll just cherry pick and not include nvidias two best cards

>>720619875 (OP)
Do they care, though? AI is what keeps bringing in the big bucks

>>720619875 (OP)
meanwhile, in the real world.

OPs status = BTFO

>1080p
it's not 2005 anymore gramps

>>720621161
the 4k performance of Borderlands 4 is awful. even the 5090 can only hit 45 FPS. its a shitshow

>>720621161
Tell that to UE5 devs, retard.

>>720621151
>This $1000 GPU beats this $600 GPU
wOaH dUdE

>>720622315
5070 Ti 16GB is $750, 9070 XT 16GB is $700

>>720621420
So a 5090 is performing about like a base PS5.
Wow.

>>720622315
the RTX 4080 is cheaper than the 9070 XT.
you're clearly a retard

>>720621151
>Those fps, even on a 5090
wtf, isn't Borderlands a franchise meant for teenagers to play on their laptops?

>>720621161
Zoomernigger, what will resolution change in a game where every edge of the object is at least 4 8 thick? 1080p will look exactly like 2160p

>>720620739
What game is that?

>>720622846
Teenagers will do fine with MFG 4x and DLSS Performance

>>720622971
GOTY 2025

>>720620971
>a $1500 and a $2500 card beats out a $800 card
shocking

>>720622846
UE5 is just too BADASS for technology to handle

>>720622528
You can't even buy the 4080 in most places.
>But muh second-hand
Disingenuous.
>>720622426
Who said anything about the 5070 Ti? It's already listed in the OP.

>>720619875 (OP)
>mfw im borderlands 4 gaming at 180 fps gsync enabled with dlss ON, deep learning super sampling frame generation transformer, optimal performance mode at 60W under load and it's extremely smooth and i'm having a blast

ASUS makes absolutely fucking shit videocards, avoid at all costs. It is a motherboard company and should have stayed as one.

>>720623039
This kinda looks like Build engine, but next gen.

>>720623425
i was torturing my rog strix for 5 years straight full load, so SYBAU nigga u don't know SHIT, their cards are freaking good, and mine even had RGB which at the time was like a super premium feature. fucking nigga.

>>720623425
Their GTX 1080 Ti is probably the most rock solid card I've ever owned. Quite a shame they don't make them like they used to...

Why is Nvidia so much worse than AMD this year?

>>720621151
anon...

Imagine still using NVIDIA LMAOOO

https://www.timesofisrael.com/chip-giant-nvidia-to-invest-more-than-500m-in-new-israeli-ai-research-data-lab/

>>720623605
Blacked well is an AI first architecture with no gaming related improvements other than core count and clockspeed

>>720623605
he's an AMD shill. you should find better sources

>>720623819
see >>720623654

>>720623496
You must be too deaf to hear the coil whine and fan noise

>>720623553
Damn, this looks cool

>>720624086
AI is better than video games

>>720623836 >>720623654
run to run variance. also TPU is highly innacurate. you can't load into the game and get the pixel perfect position each time. in these games your fps can change even by 12% if you nudge just slightly to one side, or you load in and there are more enemies than there were before, dropping your fps.

>>720624156
Is it fully local? Can you do porn? Do you upload a pic and get it animated, or do it from scratch with text prompt?

>>720624254
Are you saying that this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJ2FXcBSLk loaded the game on 12 different separate settings and each time it just coincidentally happened that 5070 ti performed worse that 9070XT?

And so did techpowerup's testing?

>>720619875 (OP)
>1080p
>can't even break 100fps, lower end can't even make 60fps
Jesus christ what kind of unoptimized garbage is that?

>>720624625
UE5 slop

>>720624405
I have a 2060 12GB and can only do image gen locally reliably. I have a Google Colab subscription and can animate approximately 150 images per month for $10 using Wan 2.2, or train small models (loras) for about $2 a piece. Once the 5000 series refresh comes out I plan on buying a 5070 Ti Super 24GB, and should be able to do video locally and reliably >>720620739

And yes, porn is possible, check out /ldg/ on /g/

>>720623605
you're saying that like either of those are good framerates for 1080p on a game that looks 15 years old

>>720624880
Are you genuinely illiterate or retarded?
Where did I imply that, you illiterate fuck?

>>720623605
>this resolution
>this framerate
what fucking kikery is this
why does it run so shit

>>720623496
>>720623856
This holy fucking shit the 2080ti strix literally never shuts the fuck up.

>>720624913
>broo muh 8 fps difference dude why is le nshittia so bad lmao
both of those are equally shit

>>720625074
Look at the 1% lows.
If you don't what it means - stutters.

Not to mention 5070 ti is $150 more expensive at MSRP

>>720625074
It's actually the fault of the devs and the engine

>>720619875 (OP)
Why do some games run better on AMD and vice versa?

>>720624562
game still looks like borderlands 1, where the fuck is all that power is used at?

>>720625287
Something about AMD being faster at rasterized rendering, supposedly. But I think the top end nvidia cards often still beat them, some might say its brute force but results are results. But I don't know enough about it, just what I think the reviewers often say while trying to interpret those charts that keep going back and forth.

>AMD chuds have to literally compete with XX70 tier of nvidia cards to make their shit top tier look worthwhile
You cant make this shit up

>>720627419
>Nvidia better because halo product
Low iq

>>720627419
I honestly lost track of their numbering convention, is the 9070 xt their top spec card?
I suppose it would be convenient and amusing if it is numbered that way to specifically be comparable to the '70s, but that leaves 2, or I suppose 3 higher specs from nvidia for those that just want more power. Though no idea if there is 5080 Ti or Super this time. And not actually sure how many people go for '90s, weren't they still really meant for productivity work, or has that all but disappeared?

>>720619875 (OP)
>fugly ass game needing a 4000$ pc to hit 60fps
bravo

>>720627419
>He thinks his veiled xx60 is xx70 tier
How naïve.
https://youtu.be/J72Gfh5mfTk

>>720627614
So what your telling me is AMD chuds top tier card is actually competing with a 5060?
Ha Ha Holy fucking kek im shitting myself

>GameAMDgpu
>TechpoweredbyAMDup
>dAMDiel owen

Woah anon, you sure love your "unbiased" sources!

>>720627775
>Nvidiot thinks being scammed with a misleading name is a W
The absolute state.
>Competing
You mean crushing.

>>720628137
>Radeon RX 9070 XT
>Radeon RX 7900 XTX
Seriously, what the fuck is going on with their naming/numbering convention?

>>720624708
We genuinely need a good game with goth punk/metal + BDSM aesthetic.

>>720620529
Wait just a cotton picking minute. It takes like 8 minutes for my 4090 to generate a wan video. What the fuck is this 93 second

>>720628294
>Doom midi soundtrack except it's ripping off Bauhaus and Christian Death instead
Would play

>>720628293
AMD jeets have always picked random numbers with various Xs and Ts

>>720628310
all benchmarks are fake and gay

>>720619875 (OP)
>drivers issue that will fix in a week

>>720628396
I feel like they're not far from renaming it to XxRadeonxX.

>>720628310
Are you using lightx2v?

>>720628293
They realized customers are morons and can't understand different numbering scheme, so they adopted the ones of their competitors so that retards can understand.
They did that with Intel and copying i3/i5/i7 with R3/R5/R7, and now they do it with Nvidia.

>>720628456
You've been saying that for 9 months.

>>720628456
>NVIDIA is the one doing catchup with drivers now
How the turns have tabled.

>>720628574
borderlands 4 has been out for 9 months?

>>720621151
>$2000 barely surpasses 60fps
>with framegen and upscaling
>at 1440p
The industry is dead.

>>720619875 (OP)
>nvidia
>30ms with 4x frame generation
>540p looks like 4K
>amd
>120ms with 2x frame generation
>needs 4K for 4K visuals

>>720627550
They killed their higher end stuff and changed their numbering to make the comparison, yeah.
It's just the 9070/9070XT and 9060/9060XT.

doesnt even matter because DLSS4 performance looks better than FSR4 quality

>>720619875 (OP)
>AMD.
Never again It doesn't fucking matter how good these cards appear in benchmarks, they don't fucking work for extended periods of time.

>>720625287
different architecture will inevitably be better at different tasks

>>720628880
FSR is unstable and its issues will not disappear when rendering at full res. i'd go as far as saying that dlss4 UP > fsr4 Q

AMD can't even run emulators at all.

>>720628994
>Switch to Loonix
>Every driver problem goes away

>>720629062
>Just troon out bro.

>>720621151
I-I can play with a grand total of 25 fps after having spent $500 on a new card???
B-A-D-A-S-S
A
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>>720619875 (OP)
>nvidia has entire AI market by the balls
>stock soaring to the stratosphere
I'd say team green is winning by a large margin

.........

>>720629018
>i'd go as far as saying that dlss4 UP > fsr4 Q
Your video doesn't even use FSR4. There's an extremely high chance you never used FSR4 in the first place.

>>720621151
>proving op right

>>720629057
I just put an hour into MGS4

>>720631192
and neither does it show the greatness of dlss4. point still stands.

>>720627775
this is where they always compete. thats why they suddenly can hold their ground in **70 tier now.

>>720619875 (OP)
Nvidia is an AI company now.
They have grown out of videogaymes, maybe you should too.

>>720631309
On your nvidia RSX powered ps3 yes.

>>720631334
No, it fucking doesn't, you retard.
FSR4 is an improvement over DLSS3 and depending on game, it can be better than DLSS4. In UE5 games in particular Transformer model has issues and is worse in motion than CNN model.

>>720631405
it's not.

>Spend cold hard cash to get new computer
>Get card that just came out
>Can't even play a new game like cronos without terrible framedrops
The absolute state of the entire industry

>>720631469
On my 2070S, DLSS was the only upscaling methods that had issues with Oblivion Remastered's post process effects.

>>720619875 (OP)
>>720623605
Anon.. The 5070ti is barely a high-end GPU. The RX 9070 XT is the most powerful GPU AMD currently has. You are comparing a flagship GPU with a mid-range+ GPU.

>>720631563
>flagship
are you genuinely retarded?

literally everyone said months ahead of RDNA4 that AMD is not launching high end GPUs this time

>>720631540
>outdated gpu
>improperly forcing dlss4 in officially unsupported game
>blindly shills fsr4
your payment per post shilled, saars?

>>720619875 (OP)
nice UE5 slop game you got there OP

>>720628840
flexing about the screenshot of the game is like flexing that food looking good on a picture. grow the fuck up

>>720631634
>>outdated gpu
What the fuck does it mean? Did Nvidia suddenly drop drivers support?
>>improperly forcing dlss4 in officially unsupported game
Literally Nvidia driver-level feature, retard. And Nvidia bragged about DLSS4 being compatible on all RTX GPUs, despite the fact that it's twice as expensive on them.
Not to mention these issues were also on DLSS3.
>>blindly shills fsr4
I upgraded to 9070 XT and it's perfectly fine.

>>720624405
>Is it fully local? Can you do porn? Do you upload a pic and get it animated, or do it from scratch with text prompt?
I just got a 5090 specifically for this and use it with Wan 2.2.
You can give it just a prompt or image with prompt.
Can just give it a picture of your waifu and tell it to have her take her top off and it will do it, it's pretty great. Made the 2K worth it. I don't even care if porn gets banned now since this is way better.
I don't use it for games, if I wanted to just play games i'd have stuck with my 7900XT.

>>720628994
Nobody cares about your stale fud memes.

>>720631747
i don't care that it's a driver level feature when the game doesn't officially support dlss4.
>fsr is fine
lol, lmao even. enjoy your muddied, disocclusion fizzled mess
>issues on dlss
it needs a good baseline framerate just like the frame generation component does, which is why i told you your 2070 was outdated shit because it's not performant enough for oblivion.

>>720632031
>lol, lmao even. enjoy your muddied, disocclusion fizzled mess
This isn't FSR2/3, it's FSR4.
>which is why i told you your 2070 was outdated shit because it's not performant enough for oblivion.
You control the output resolution and graphics settings. If you're at least a little smart, you can get 60 fps on 6 years old GPUs.
And how come both XeSS and FSR3 actually didn't have the same issues, despite the fact they're more expensive than CNN DLSS?

>>720619875 (OP)
nvidia is notoriously bad with UE5 games, numerous reports covering it, but the nvidiots will continue to blame it on UE5 instead.
>>720620082
viewport performance is perfectly fine with AMD, and that's all that matters.
long renders don't matter, you can optimise to shorten it, but no matter what GPU you use, you'll be waiting with more complex scenes. it's an afk task, always has been.

>>720632193
>if you're smart you can get 60 fps in unoptimized slops
so you reduced the global illumination and vsm quality and then you wondered why (((DLSS))) was showing problems when you were running undersampled lumen and shadows while also rendering the game at quality resolution? lmao
>b-but FSR and muh XESS
they'd fare 10 times worse in the same situation. webm above shows dlss in perfect condition, in a UE5 game with lumen
>muh FSR 4
it's got ghosting in blacks like some offbrand chink VA panel would and it cant resolve for shit. enjoy your piece of shit new technology lmao. you retards said the upscaler's quality improved jumping from FSR 2 to FSR3 when it was in fact the exact same shit, and the youtubers lied about it by showing still scenes just like they do with FSR4 now, and then theres niggers like you believing that amd has actually done something good for once hahahaha. fucking pathetic.
meanwhile i can put dlss transformer in games as old as 2020 and it works flawlessly. sneed.

>6% marketshare
Its so over AMjeetbros, Nujudea won't stop winning. Why the fuck can't these tards get ai right?

>>720619875 (OP)
Odd that the 4090 and 5090 are conspicuously absent.
>it's comparable at the same price points!
>I'm only comparing my intelligence to retards!

>>720633109
>the same person that considered getting 5090 also considers getting 9070XT
you're not very bright, are you?

>>720620529
enjoy your garbage goyvidia drivers then

>>720633245
I don't consider AMDreidel products. That's for "people" that eat out of the garbage of their betters.

>>720619875 (OP)
More like an absolute state of developers. They seriously need to get fucked in the ass by the "free market", but Nvidia and AMD are enabling their faggotry by pushing tranny frames.

>>720633334
Ironic considering how shit Nvidia's drivers this year were, and most likely still are.
I had to use last year's drivers on my 2070S to use my PC properly without random black screens, until I switched to 9070 XT, and the only crash I've had so far was because I was fiddling with the undervolting.

I hecking love playing when fake resolution and fake frames!
I know I’ve been shitting on console for decades for not being able to run games natively, but that’s something completely different!

>>720633424
There's no logical reason to upgrade drivers for EOL cards.

>>720633468
Except RTX 50 series had just as shit drivers, if not worse

>>720633459
desu consoles still do mostly rely on checkerboard or spatial upscaling. not the same as on pc.

>>720619875 (OP)
I heard from hardware unboxed that Nvidia has massive CPU overhead that even a 9800x3d can't fix
They really need to get their shit together like AMD did

>>720633459
We have more powerful hardware than ever before, and yet games keep looking worse and worse, bloat to sizes not at all justified by either the visuals or the content of those games, and require more and more crutches with fake frames and fake resolution to even approach playability, while still running worse than ancient games on infinitely weaker hardware. The brain drain across all related industries must be absolutely insane. How long before we reach the tipping point where the incompetence of developers outstrips the ability of hardware to paper over it? Can we finally get a gaming industry crash, so we can start rebuilding?

>>720633634
it's apparent when your game runs at 200 native fps but is fixed with rebar. now the thing is no game runs at 200 native fps so its a non issue.

>>720619875 (OP)
>AMD top end competing with mid to low tier nvidia cards

>>720619875 (OP)
>>720621151
>badass preset
Badass preset is literally a renamed UE5 'cinematic' preset meant for pre-rendered content. It's not meant to be used for regular rendering. Use the high preset.

>>720632257
Not that UE5 is good, but Nvidia hardware is generally significantly inferior at every price point until you get to the very high end. They're extremely dependent on driver level performance hacks, embedded Nvidia developers providing very optimized code paths in game engines, and developers purposefully avoiding features that benefit other vendors.
UE5 may be exposing Nvidia's hardware inferiority the same way that vkd3d does by using features out of necessity that Nvidia either does not support or supports poorly.

>>720633773
It doesn't happen magically at 200fps
The overhead rears it's ugly head whenever the game is sufficiently CPU heavy

>>720634015
AMD only sells top-end hardware to data center customers. Back when they did offer top-end cards only Linux users bought them. Nvidia's production advantage for discrete cards seems insurmountable, chiplets didn't work out for RDNA3 GPUs vs Nvidia the way they did for Zen vs Intel.
They only fabbed a single die for discrete GPUs this generation with the idea that maybe they would be competitive against one die from Nvidia, but they still couldn't get anyone to buy them outside Linux users.

>>720634646
there is no better GPU purchase on planet earth right now then a 4090, its not even debatable or a a single competitor in existence. Poor fags on a 5070 need to stay on console

>>720628310
yeah you have 16gb memory with a 8 core cpu lol

>>720632257
>nvidia is notoriously bad with UE5 games
which is pretty funny when amd cards used to be absolute shit on ue compared to nvidia. guess they fixed something with newer rdna architectures.

>>720636639
Wasn't Outer Worlds using OpenGL? The OpenGL driver for NT from AMD is notoriously bad, the Valve-backed RadeonSI OpenGL for AMD hardware on Linux based OSes performs much better. Vega 56 is generally right around the GTX 1080 where it should be.

>>720635845
4090 is out of production retard

>>720637338
and? sorry youre a third worldie without ebay/newegg. Still a better purchase over the 5090 at msrp

>>720637430
wdym and? it's out of production so the prices are on par with the 5090 so it's flat out worse