Thread 720631853

Pascal the dog is here.

>>720631853 (OP)
WWW...

>>720631853 (OP)
Not for long

>>720631853 (OP)
This game is puré kino, is smt2 as good as this?

>>720631853 (OP)
Tell him I hate him.

>>720632194
It's a better game

I enjoy the semi-contemporary SMT settings way more than the shitty desert wastelands

>>720631853 (OP)
SMT1 and 2 are the peak of the series, aesthetically speaking

>>720631853 (OP)
Tell me, is Pascal the dog in the room with us?

>>720632194
Literally a better game except in atmosphere.

>>720632928
1 was was a fucking wasteland too retard.

>>720632194
Lacks the whole calm before the storm unnerving sensation the first act of SMT1 evoked but it's mechanically better.

>>720637634
Only after Thor nukes Japan and even then post nuke Japan is still more interesting than the desert in SMTV.

>>720637717
Yeah seeing the way society changed from before to after the nukes was cool, hell the final act where tokyo gets flooded and everyone that survived scrambling for the only unflooded piece of land was great too. Reminds me of how in SMT3 you saw the manikins pointlessly trying to climb the tower of kagutsuchi after their spiritual leader died, they have no way of affecting the outcome of what transpires there but they're filled with an utter sense of hopeless desperation that they might as well die trying.

>>720633143
is the sound file for this one dead?

>>720637717
V was still mostly destroyed city buildings retard.

>>720638016
Oh so it's not just me.

>>720637938
You're exaggerating the flood in 1 a lot. There was no rush. You talk to law hero and it just happens. A couple people in the law camp will say " it's a good thing a pretended to convert lol". And that's it. Most everyone died.

>>720638375
There was also a chaos camp that invaded the place to stop the lawfags and bring about their world.

>>720638153
You haven’t played 1 if you don’t see the difference between a destroyed civilization with people still living there dealing with changes and a desert with buildings.

>>720638173
maybe it died when catbox was having system wide issues a few months back
want to say someone was trying to get it taken down

Say I wanted to play SMT1. Is there a better version then just emulating Super Nintendo? Any re-translations or is the original fine?
Also, do you need to draw maps on paper for this one?

>>720639643
Isn't the PS1 version good? I know the GBA version has the worst version of its OST.

>>720639643
snes version is the best one, some people prefer the ps1 version but the ost is worse. i think the original translation patch had some bugs but any version you'll download now is probably the fixed one
it should have an automap

>>720637959
its over

>>720632194
like 80% better, with this glaring flaw that it keeps unsummoning your demons cause you don't get enough mag to keep them around when not fighting outside, you can literally stack 50k, go into a dungeon and by the end you'll be at 0.
>but muh mc/heroine meta
yes they are perfectly capable of beating the game, but it's about demon summoning ffs.

>>720632194
It's a better game but SMT1 has the better story and atmosphere.

>>720639643
Youtube which version has the credits theme you like the most, check if that version has a translation, play it.

>>720638548
You moved the goal posts.

>>720638484
I didn't mention it because you don't see anyone that really escaped on the chaos side like in the law side. Law has some refugees and feels like a town with proper shops and chaos feels like a war camp with dudes sitting in the corner selling you guns.

>>720639643
PSX is a treat to play
>>720639684
Yes
>>720639952
Fuck off, PSX OST is great. Ginza and Cathedral sound amazing. And so does the ending theme.

>>720631853 (OP)
What dog?

>>720631853 (OP)
Pascal turned into a blue Cerberus.
Just like how the Chaos Hero turned into samurai oni man.
Why don't we see more of these demon infused beings in the wild? It seems like you gain a lot of power without any negatives, something that Chaos fags really love.

If you do play PSX, watch the visionary item cutscenes on youtube. Th only thing the GBA version has over every other version is that.

>>720641951
Because of Yama most likely. He thinks humans using demons is a sin. If you're a real chaos fag he'll let it go but he almost killed the chaos hero for doing it.

>>720641951
that's what demonoids are

>>720641951
>Why don't we see more of these demon infused beings in the wild? It seems like you gain a lot of power without any negatives, something that Chaos fags really love.
Because doing so would first require access to a demon summoning program to catch a demon to fuse with which while distributed widely right prior to the apocalyptic events of the prologue probably still isn't as widespread as it could be. Also wouldn't Yama/Enma smite the fuck out of you for using demons since the truth is chaos in SMT1 all about demon supremacy and any humans actually thinking they're going to rule in a world of str is huffing pure copium?

>>720642042
Yeah some of those visionary scenes are good. Really gives insight as to why the IP is so neutral biased.

>>720642296
I can only think of one good faction leader in SMT1, and that was Echidna, who really didn't seem all that bad to be honest. Unless I'm forgetting something.
Both factions ended up being comically evil, but with the usual, for the greater good nonsense.

>>720642503
>Echidna
Who made Destiny Land a trap filled maze to kill humans and also is the reason your Pascal tried to kill you. She stole your fucking dog.

>>720642503
why is Echidna a Chaosfag anyway when her alignment is Dark-Law

>>720639298
Is it still having issues? I've been unable to connect to catbox for over a week at this point, ended up writing a redirect script to fatbox while waiting it out (which doesn't work with soundposts, I'm not that good a scripter).

>>720642912
Any demon that is mythologically a baby factory gets put in the chaos slot most of the time in the series.

>>720642992
I can connect to catbox links right now so your issues might be regional or ISP related
some links have just died over time for one reason or another
if there was an easier way to check the links in the URL it would be a little clearer what the actual issue is but I'm personally too lazy to convert them

Is Megami Tensei 1 (SMT 0) worth playing?

>>720631853 (OP)
I have no motivation to play now that people spoiled that the dog gets possessed.

>>720643572
Kind of, MT2 is better. Both games have incredibly frustrating moments though.

>>720643397
Damn, that's what I was worried of. I checked with ISP the other day so I think it might just be regional, at that point. That or some niche router/signature issue.
Oh well, thanks all the same.

>>720643590
Then allow me to spoil that you fix the dog and get him back.

>>720643572
Megami Tensei 1 is very very fucking rough, 2 is pretty good.

>>720643572
it gets really annoying near the end

>>720643572
If you play it, play the super famicom remakes of both.

smt1 was such a dogshit game holy shit
start with nocturne and pretend earlier games don't exist

>>720642845
Aren't the traps only for non-chaos fags since they were at war? I remember some Gaian simp saying that. Also, she is the one who stole your dog? I thought that was just him jumping into a portal because of some retard fucking up a ritual.

>>720644194
>Also, she is the one who stole your dog?
Gets revealed in one of those bonus scenes in the GBA version.

>>720644129
>noctureddit
Get some taste.

>>720644194
>Aren't the traps only for non-chaos fags since they were at war?
Technically but anyone can fall into them.

>>720643572
if you're used to old dungeon crawlers, yeah it's alright. 2 is actually great though
do not play the remake, it's shit

>>720644545
What was wrong with the remake?

>>720632194
I liked the first game more, plot-wise. SMT II has you do a lot of fetch quests to progress the plot.

>>720644736
Yeah the Masakado corpse pieces hunt segment was dumb.

>>720644545
Are those draw your own map?

>>720632194
SMT2 is the better game, but man, does it have the most obnoxious collection quest in any SMT game with the pillar bullshit.
Anything essential locked behind a stat dump is bad game design.

>>720644607
it's alright but the original MegaTen2 is just better, it's one of the best looking NES games, KMT just feels bland compared to it

>>720644847
yeah

>>720644861
Megami Tensei is also super mega outdated and desperately needs the QoL changes the sequels brough to the series.

alice the cunny

>>720644831
Yeah, and it is kinda funny how you having to chase not-Peter Pan is given more showtime than demons bursting into The Center.

>>720645172
horse-faced cunny...

>>720644607
I don't really like either version of MT2 but the special sound chip and instrumentation for the original version is just miles and miles better than the SNES port, which seems like something halfassed by interns.

>>720640320
Yeah the MAG system was kind of a mistake even though on paper it sounds good. If they make it enough of a real resource you want to save it players will respond by not using demons for 90% of the game in the game about using demons.

>>720644831
I quit during that segment. Was having a pretty good time up until then but it was a bit too cryptic/directionless for me at the time and I had other things on the backlog to get through.
I'll probably get back to it after I finish the Raidou remake.

>>720645365
anal-chasing groid..

>>720631853 (OP)
SMT 1 and 2 have shit gameplay and need remakes.

>>720645869
>SMT 1 and 2 have shit gameplay and need remakes.
I support this. SMT 1 especially has the best atmosphere of the series. I want SMT VI to go back to regular people with guns.

>>720639643
If you do play the Super Famicom version.

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/907/

>>720645984
Isn't that just Devil Survivor?

>>720646259
>Isn't that just Devil Survivor?
What? No. They are not even the same genre.

>>720645869
I don't trust modern Atlus to keep their atmosphere. Classic Megaten games are from a bygone era, and Atlus is a very different company with different people compared to the 90s.

>>720648543
Yeah nowadays they're nothing but a shell that can only regurgitate games from their glory days.

/thread

>>720650918
NOT SO FAST

>>720651192
NOOO MY 4chan ACHIEVEMENT YOU MONSTER. Now I will never plat this board.

>>720645984
>I want SMT VI to go back to regular people with guns.
This

>>720637634
But it was an infinitely cooler wasteland, along with having the entire beginning part of the game to wander a demon-infested Tokyo

>>720652312
>But it was an infinitely cooler wasteland
With the only difference being people around in coats. Same sand and ruined buildings.
>along with having the entire beginning part of the game to wander a demon-infested Tokyo
There are demons in real Tokyo in V.

>>720654002
SMTV ruined world is the same shit as Nocturne, just a desert without any humans, it's trash
SMT1-2-IV actually have humans trying to survive alongside the demon infested wasteland
V and Nocturne are just fucking empty buildings, hell you can't even enter them in V

>>720631853 (OP)
can you fuck him?

>>720654282
There was the whole second arc in V where the students get captured and you have to save them. They even added a quest where demons throw a dinner party for a dying human.

>>720654351
no

>>720654282
IV's weird because Tokyo isn't particularly ruined and there's multiple societies in place that seem to be thriving. I liked the alternate worlds during the second half because they had cooler settings.

>>720631853 (OP)
Should I play SMT If? There is even rare alt version for japanese phones where you play as the villian

I just want to post my wife Kei.

gtfo /vg/cord

>>720631853 (OP)
It's been so long that I don't even remember how the meme of associating this picture of Asahi with Pascal the dog started anymore. We're getting old, bros.

>>720656498
You can name her Pascal in the classic JRPG BUT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY DO THAT!!! moment where your choice doesn't matter

the only way

post more dog

>>720657736
my pascal has dieded

>>720639684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9ozjlhrj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPfgY_yAlbY
Graphics on the ps1 version are a step up for the most part but the sound design is so off it's unacceptable.

>>720657803
sux

I couldn't finish SMT 1 because it became so monotonous and frustrating. I'm no stranger to older JRPGs either.

>>720657925
that' what furries get

Any games where you can a dog?

>>720645172
>>720657310
I have an idea to make a Die For Me! and Final Nude (among other skills) PoPM Alice in the Imagine server I play on but I'm afraid I'd get in trouble if I do. I know one guy who got banned on there because they Uooh'd too close to the sun...

>>720658293
link me the gay imagine server faget and i will become the legend of alice

>>720658142
cute

>>720658474
don't ask for the original

>>720658608
Can I see the original?

>>720658724
no i don't have it

>>720631853 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSbo1aHvme0

>>720644319
Poor dog https://youtu.be/re6jT3LJCnk?t=1008

>>720659318
>Tying up the Greek tale of Echidna the mother of monsters siring Cerberus with Pascal "evolving" to Cerberus after a demon fusion, itself mostly a reference to DDS:MT giving the Nakajima Cerberus as a mount,.
I know it's a GBA hindsight addition instead of the original script, but this is still supremely kino writing.
I look at things like Fate and Percy Jackson's use of mythology in the modern day and even if SMT hasn't penned a new Paradise Lost or anything so many other things they just seem so surface level with their modern fantasy writing compared to it. Folklore is often used like props instead of characters in their own right.

That's something I really liked about SMT1 and 2's framing, to the demons the small party of humans were often seen as the oddities intruding in their eons old way of things.

>>720660769
Fate is much more thorough than Percy fucking Jackson, you just gotta read the visual novel.

>t. massive fan of both old school Type-Moon and SMT

>>720661531
>you just gotta read the visual novel
Hell no.

how and where should i download play smt nine
alice is there?

>>720657736
Butter Dog

It's weird I was marathoning SMT for the first time and people were telling me SMT2 was goat but honestly I thought SMT1 was significantly better. There's the whole cosmic mythology in SMT1 that felt more mystical and magical that was missing in SMT2. SMT2 had a neat setting sure, but SMT1 felt uncomfortable with a recognizable everyday life quickly getting worse and worse and worse.

SMT 1 and 2 UI is peak I wish there were other games with similar framing
I think the connection between occult esoterica and early sci fi is really cool aesthetically and part of the uniqueness of the setting that kind of went away over time

>>720662195
Well, yeah. SMT1 is the actual apocalypse. SMT2 is just the afterparty.

>>720662323
Wasn't the very first Megaten game about some gay kid who learned how to summon demons with a computer and decided to destroy the world?

Which version (console release) of SMT 1 is the best?

>>720659318
Oh wait.. is that why you get cerberus in megaten imagine?

>>720657736
Never ever happening but I would love a Gantz x SMT game. Dont care how it works as long as I see body suit titty and cool demons.

>>720662581
Yes. Cerberus having some sort of bond with the protagonist is invariably a reference to Pascal.

>literally 30 years after SMT1
>still no remake
But have more Persona 3-5 spinoffs please

>>720662425
it was a japanese honor student who was so smart he knew to reject the japanese gf

Are these games really hard? Do you have to be an RPG autist to get through SMT?

>>720662778
Blame Sega, anon, they're the ones that decided to make Sonic, Yakuza, and Persona their tentpole franchises moving forward. Considering the extended edition of V came out just last year, it'll probably be some time before the mainline series gets any real attention again.

>>720662778
yeah enjoy your mikus! a unique miku dlc in persona 4!

>>720663081
Generally, yes. The series, like a lot of early JRPGs, draws a lot of inspiration of Wizardry, which was hard as balls.

>>720663194
is this actually worth playing? I kinda wanna do it just for the Lilith ending

where's the p3-p5 spinoffs? i can't find any on the horizon

>>720663081
If you mean SMT1-2, not really.
Guns with status ailment bullets & Lightning/Ice spells trivialize a lot of the game

>>720631853 (OP)
I have no idea how japanese kids were meant to beat this back in the day.
You only get vague and sometimes no directions on what to do nexy.

>>720663403
It's the best version of SMT1, the english patch also has a version that reduces the artificial difficulty which I recommend though
Otherwise the author inflated the FUCK out of bosses HP and damage

>>720642912
Becuase YHVH wouldn't let her into the cool club.

>>720664287
Gayming magazines, like with any old game

>>720664370
What version is that? I've been wanting to play SMT1.

>>720642912
>>720643168
Solidarity with Mem Aleph, I guess?

>>720664370
yeah I remember hearing about the balance being fucky so I'll keep that in mind. will probably play it eventually.
>>720664552
SMT VX, it's a fan remake with new content so not exactly a purist way to play the game

Will we ever get another cyberpunkish SMT game like 1,2 and IV or are we doomed for the nocturne mines forever.

>>720642992
I have to view catbox stuff through a VPN I'm pretty sure the site admin started blocking third world countries because of the CP spam.

>>720664638
Oh welp, nevermind then.

>>720663081
SMT1 is an extremely broken game.
SMT2 less so until you realize that triple fusion with a human allows you to fuse without limit restriction.

>>720663251
SMT might be the most mainstream RPG to still use Wizardry's basic mechanics.

>>720664997
Level restriction*

Why is Thor YHWH's lackey anyway?

>>720665505
Because Thorman sounded like Truman to the devs apparently, but narratively you can just handwave it that he sees the upstart chaos demons like the Jotnar and wants them all dealt with before returning to Aesir business.

>>720654282
there is a reason the original writer dropped Nocture and never touched any new SMT ever again

>>720631853 (OP)
I really miss the command line themed UI

>>720631853 (OP)
Sexo.

>>720665505
Lawfags stick together

>>720632928
Same. Funny enough, I thought Blasted Tokyo was also the worst part of SMT4. Really proved to me that deserts are fucking shit

>"Give me a Magic Stone"
>No.
>"WHAT!?"
>"Well then..."
>"KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

>>720669880
How cruel! Here I come!

Give me 5731 macca, and I'll be your best friend!

>>720663081
Most of them are fine to play and only require trial and error but some SMT games are not fine to play unless you have extreme brain damage.

COMPs are cool, don't know why they had to be replaced by phones in newer entries

I love Alice so much

>>720671814
It was neat the first time they did it, because it makes sense that specialized devices like COMPs aren't needed anymore when technology in real life has gone beyond that.
After the first time it happens, though, you just lament a unique design being phased out.
It's like if they brought back Mega Man Battle Network and replaced PETs with regular ass phones.

>>720673118
ToooooooooooooooooooT
Mod?

>>720671814
I still feel like they could use COMPs, just push into 90s/2000s retrofuturism a little.

>>720674403
https://files.catbox.moe/xjfvv7.zip
There you go king

>>720645984
>>720651891
Damn right. I like the first game's aesthetics.

>>720663081
You need extreme autism to beat Megami Tensei 1, and 2. You need regular autism for the rest of the series.

>>720674771
Simpler than that, just say that demon summoning isn't about processing, and the ritual requires certain materials and a voltage in certain quantities that can't be compressed to a sleek phone.

>>720671814
The issue I have with these things is that the hero in SMT1 didn't have this thing until he got sent to blown out Tokyo.
How did he use the programming before the nukes fell? He didn't have any electronic device on him, even an antique flip phone.

SMT1: 9/10
SMT2: 7/10
SMT IF: 6/10
SMT3: 8/10
SMT SJ: 9/10
SMT4: 7/10
SMT4A: 8/10 bordering 9/10
SMT5: 7/10
I'll try Raidou next.

>>720676490
I beat Megami Tensei 2 and I'm not autistic. Got stuck on a couple of occasions.
Megami Tensei looks like pure bullshit and I'm not even going to try it.

>>720676974
I thought Stephen gave it to him when he met him in the hospital jail

>>720675805
Thank you brother.

like yeah why does everyone say smt2 is better? o_O

>>720671782
As one of the fifteen people who ever bothered beating it, I can say Megami Tensei requires alcohol-induced brain damage to be able to complete

>SMT
1/10
>SMt2
2/10
>SMTif...:
1&2 were so ass I never bothered.
>SMTT3
8/10
>SJ
level design goes to shit after the Jack fight and the combat and fusing aren't good enough to carry the game 6/10
>SJR
same as above, Womb of Grief repeats all the mistakes of the original's level design
>SMT4
5/10 (all 5 points are the OST)
>SMT4 Final
9/10
>SMTV
9/10
>SMTVV
9.5/10

>>720678320
>Hating on 4 and SJ

>>720678517
SJ is dogshit, play a real etrian odyssey game.

>>720678517
Sorry that my opinion isn't a reddit copy and paste.

>>720678626
SJ is goated and Etrian Odyssey is shiiiiit.

>>720678695
This

>>720676974
The Hero always had the arm computer with him, it's just not a very common piece of technology since we only find a few demon summoners in the post nuke Tokyo such as Ozawa and those guys you beat up to get more memory space.

>>720678925
drop your list, coward

SMT VV > SMT SJ > SMT 4a >SMT4 >SMT V > SMT Nocturne > SMT 1 > SMT2

>>720631853 (OP)
Holy shit

>>720679546
RARE

Pascal also survives Abaddon in SMT 2. Cool dog. I think one of the SMT 1 versions also has unique sprite for him but I forgot which one.

Pascal the dog if he 3D

>>720679112
Even as a V fag I can't agree.

>>720679984
If only the game wasn't pure trash

>>720680134
That's okay. The entire series is good. You are allowed to have your own personal taste, which is refined if you enjoy this series.

>>720680740
The only opinion I have that almost no one seems to agree with is thinking V has one of the best stories in the series. It's only slightly under games like SJ, SH, and DDS1 and 2 for me.

>>720679984
Pascal the dog if his friendship cost real macca

>>720659243
This song always makes me feel things.

>>720681281
Don't watch the visionary cutscene of the day the MC got Pascal bro.

>>720681240
Well not anymore, they added a way to get Pascal + the stuff to replace dupes for free without the need to roll anything, it's still endgame stuff and he isn't PvP viable anymore but it's still good for people who want to collect

SMT 1 only needs an encounter rate decrease.

>>720681604
You literally have Estoma

>>720681168
Meanwhile I can't understand why people like SMT4A I thought it was hot trash. SMT4 however was one of the best. I wish 4 and SJ would get re releases on modern platforms. 3DS is nice and all but its still just a handheld.

>>720681731
What the hell man I knew this exact comment would come but I didn't think anyone would be dumb enough to post it.

Tell me, do you start the games with Estoma? Tell me, will you be lucky enough to fuse a demon with Estoma, and if so, will you be lucky enough to be the same alignment so you can actually use it?

>>720681168
I like SMT V story. I have never found anything wrong with it. It's minimal, as it's suppose to. Kids these days with their movie games don't know shit.

>>720681876
>I don't want an answer I want to be mad

>>720632194
>puré
ESL detected

>>720681982
>i don't want to take responsibility for being dumb i want to accuse others of fake things

>>720681819
4A's story and most of the characters are pretty ass, but the gameplay was a great refining of what was good in 4 while ironing out some of the the things that dragged it down a bit.
Dagda is also my favorite supporting character in the series. I love how much of a fucking curmudgeon he is.

>>720681819
>. I wish 4 and SJ would get re releases on modern platforms.
We need them on Steam yesterday.

>>720676031
You can tell number 2 is law hero and 3 is chaos hero

Yuriko makes my liquid snake the solid snake

>>720682395
She really wanted to make a world of demi-kids, but the Hero refused her offer, and died a worthless death.
Sad, so sad.

Yuka makes me want to rebel against the Japanese government and kick out all the non Japanese out of the country

>>720681896
Yeah but even as minimal as it it still:
>developed its characters well
>sells you on the relationship between the MC and Aogami and the revenge arc fueled by it
>uses narrative foils, parallels and metaphors (which most video game stories don't bother to do anymore)
>interesting use of mythology
>good world building
>fitting conclusions
It did everything a proper story should do. The only thing that frustrates me about V's story is that it doesn't feel "finished" and not in the way you're probably thinking. Towards the end of the new route a lot of information is dumped on you all at once and none of it is really elaborated on. It's not like when people bitched about the Mandala Cycle, because that actually was explained through the game, it's stuff like Yoko and Tao's real identities, the impact on other universes Satan says you'll have, Aogami realizing he's Susano-o and that he's had a heart all along (finally) but never talks about it. Things like that. Amanozako's bullshit with a second soul inside her is open ended too, but if you give more info on the creation goddesses you would get more info on that too by extension.
It feels like there should be more story told there but I have no idea if they plan to do something with it or not. It kind of feels like they are going to make some kind of DLC for VV because of all this. That and the game needs a Switch 2 update.

Shirow makes me want to go on a school shooting and beat US records

>>720682395
>>720682596
both are sex

Ren makes me want to become Catholic, go to church, stop wearing a fedora, and believe that the power of God and Anime really are on my side

>>720682743
>counting or not counting demon violence

>>720682596
for me, it's pre-apoc heroine

>>720681819
>>720682082
you guys are very unique, good job! :D
NAWT!!!

>>720684175
same honestly

Lookin at this image made me realise that the average human is fucked in the SMT world

>>720684474
Yes? How was that not obvious, anon?

>>720684474
Goblin looks like it'll tear your face off

Looking at this image made me realize that every human can be a Chad in the SMT world

>>720684474
Get gun, get nerve bullet, shoot them to death without problem because bullet>magic.

>>720685018
peak Kaneko

>>720685038
>bullet>magic.
Fuck yeah humanity!

>>720631853 (OP)
|test|

>>720665505
I think that "God" in 1, which isn't really referred to as YHVH, is probably supposed to also be some sort of an All-Father figure for the gods who accept his rule, in contrast to the Chaos route where the many gods and demons are trying to reclaim their power and status. The fact that Vishnu is also working for God and will join you in the Law path kind of convinced me that this is probably the case. It would make sense as the reason why Deities are classified as Law in this game too.

>>720685154
Get this fool

>>720685154
Welcome to /z/

>>720676974
>The issue I have with these things is that the hero in SMT1 didn't have this thing until he got sent to blown out Tokyo.
But he did? He's a nerd who goes shopping while carrying a computer on his arm.

>>720678229
You have my condolences and admiration. I hope you took the adequate blood test to make sure you don't have liver failure after that playthrough.

>>720685018
cute twinks

>>720678229
I would never touch that game without save-states, and even then it would be a struggle.

>>720685018
OUR HEROES

>>720685462
Guy on the right looks like Harold Ramis.

>>720685462
What is Chaos man even carrying in his right hand?

>PS1 version has upgraded backgrounds, sprites, animations, audio, and UI
>Sega Saturn has portraits, cutscenes, and voice acting
>Nintendo Gameboy Advance has updated maps, mechanics, story, and demons
>Still no definitive version with all the content from all the versions

Aaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttllllllllllllllluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssss

>>720685556
That's a helmet, no?

>>720685462
Yuck. They looked like ugly middle aged men from middle east in the og game. I'm glad Kaneko matured, evolved his style over the years, and turned them into proper handsome Japanese bishounens

>>720677134
hell yes I love Strange Journey

>>720685803
When did Kaneko first drop this art style anyways? This is such a departure from his early Atlus years, it must have hit the old fans like a bag of bricks on how different it was.

>>720685646
Looks like it, and those green things are the straps

>>720631853 (OP)
It's been almost 10 years since the first pascalpost

>>720632194
One of the few SMT where you can humiliate and kill Lucifer as his jew trick won't work on you.

>>720685991
>When did Kaneko first drop this art style anyways?
Somewhere between Soul Hackers and Persona 2.

>>720684589
stop aing me

>>720685991
Around 1999, I think. He had vast and varied inspirations when it came to designs, but he thought that his style was too generic, so he decided to develop one unique to him. Around the start of the 21st century, he developed a strong affinity for the old Victorian era "pale porcelain doll" aesthetic and it stuck

>>720685991
Probably starting from Devil Summoner.

>>720685458
I'd say the save states are fine if only to avoid having to input the passwords. There's quite a bit of grinding, especially endgame where all the items cost a shit ton. Building the main character in the wrong way can even make you have to level grind more to get the right stats for the super rape weapon.

>>720684474
I like how Devil Survivor actually made a point to explain how humans are able to survive demon magic, claws etc.

>>720682395
>She was originally going to be in SMT3 as a story character and a boss with her own dungeon, but got cut out because they wanted to focus on the Labirinth of Amala instead
dammit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S91ZybjWVYc

I don't care what anyone says. SMT1>>>>>SMT2.

>>720687256
I totally agree too. I don't know what SMT2bros are smoking. I like SMT2 but SMT1 was really something special.

Need more as fast as SH

>>720637959
:(

Where did he get it again?

>>720687512
SMT1 Hero already had a COMP from the start
He had both a PC in his rom and also a COMP which was like a tablet or whatever mobile PC

>>720639643
GBA version with the iPhone translation patch

>>720687512
He bought it from somewhere.

I've been giving SMTVV a shot because it was recommended as a starting point. While the battle mechanics seems funny, the map is starting to feel like ubislop. I've just beaten the first boss. Will the map mechanics get worse or should I go for IV?

What was the best moment and why was it the public execution fight

How was the raidou remaster? Worth buying?

>>720689039
the countdown escape before you and your country is about to get literally ICBM'd into nuclear oblivion
Frankly every single pre apocalypse moment in SMT1 still mogs literally EVERYTHING else in the franchise atmosphere wise.
It's insane how ahead of its time SMT1 was, even nowadays you don't get games with themes and atmosphere like that outside of some generic urban fantasy (which is still quite rare)

>>720689694
Yes, and definitely better than the original unless you're one of the autismos gungho about the imperial rising sun flag being changed to the generic japan flag

>>720688724
It is what it is. What are you even looking for in a JRPG? If you don't like the ubislop lmao that's pretty much SMT V in a nutshell dude you gotta have the tism to clear out the map or you won't enjoy it.

>>720678229
I beat the kyuuyaku megami tensei version.
I have no idea why I did that, shit was not fun but I got hooked on it for some reason.
I remember playing through the third area (which is huge) in like 1 day and I started feeling nauseous looking at those grey hallways for so long.

>>720687051
She killed trillions

>>720651891
same. I also wish they'd start off in Japan and gradually go to other countries right before climaxing in Israel-Palestine. Would be perfect.

Hi, im sure this has been asked a lot and I read through a lot of it, but I have a rather specific question: I played persona 5, enjoyed it but got a bit tired with the amount of text/lesser gameplay, cause gaming sessions felt like reading sessions (nothing wrong with it, but I wanted to play with my personas) but I pushed through because I really liked the story and cinematics. I started playing P4 a while ago but didnt get far, same with Tokyo Mirage. But at the same time I want to because what I enjoy the most from a rpg is the story.

After reading many posts, im inclined to play SMT more than retaking persona (4 or 3) but im unsure because many posts talk about non existent/bad story. I surely want more gameplay, but I want a good story too, I know it seems contradictory.

In case you guys convince me to play persona, it will probably be p4 or p3 reload, but in case its smt, im not sure what game to start with. Is playing the mainline series in order important? Story/lore wise? I have a 3ds and a friend offered to lend me his smt games (he owns them all and persona Q 1 and 2 too) but Im also open to playing any other title in steam if its a better approach (must be pc tho, no other consoles aside from 3ds)

Thanks a lot for your time and answers!.

>>720691194
For Mainline: III, IV, and VV are all decent starting points. Raidou is an action RPG.

>>720691194
>Is playing the mainline series in order important? Story/lore wise?
Not necessarily. Gameplay wise 1 and 2 are very different from 3, which is different from Strange Journey, which is also quite different from 4 and 5. I'd say that you should just play the first one and see whether or not you like it, but liking the first two doesn't guarantee that you will like the others, and vice versa.
Storywise only 1 and 2 are explicitly connected, so besides that you can just start from wherever you like. I think 3 and 5 are connected in some ways, but I've never finished 5.
>Im also open to playing any other title in steam if its a better approach (must be pc tho, no other consoles aside from 3ds)
Emulation should be easy for most of the titles though.

One of these days I really should play the first two games, I've played everything since Nocturne.

>>720681819
4's gameplay is Apocalypse's but infinitely shittier. You must play on easy and only care about the story.

>>720690496
I also beat that version. Got memories of being stuck in the hallway in the fire area outside the save point for around an hour just getting into encounters with 8 flame men and other retarded set ups.

>>720645984
SMTV/VV was Maniax busting the mostly fantastical setting nut out, so we are due a normal niggas shooting demons on the streets setting

>>720681168
When I was playing through vanilla V I couldn't help but feel the story was catering to my very specific schizo taste

>>720697413
It probably did.

>>720691194
SMT IV is the game for you. Given what you liked about Persona 5, IV Apocalypse might also be to your liking