Thread 720644564

Kojima plagarized the main metal gear theme lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JL4JXEv-RY&lc=UgxC3slgACsb4T2Cs_l4AaABAg

>after MGS3 remake you have normies catching up to things that everyone knew 20 years ago
Cool.

greetings traveller, welcome to the year 2025. turn back now.

>>720644564 (OP)
It's cute to see zoomers learn stuff.

>>720644725
crapcom damage control husk spotted

>>720644989
Nigger, I knew about this while you were shitting your diapers. Shut your retarded ass up and face the fact that you didn't uncover anything we haven't know for literal decades.

>>720644564 (OP)
https://youtu.be/9k7DrIWcrdI?si=h3gDSjZqPQF9Mmww

>>720644564 (OP)
Don't worry, I counter plagiarized, so the net result is no laws were broken.

Plagiarized?

>>720644564 (OP)
Jesus, talk about late. Must be a youngin'

>>720644564 (OP)
Kojima also did the music?
He's so talented!

>MGS theme plagiarised
>is fucking kino
>DBZ Budokai soundtrack plagiarised
>is fucking kino
Hmm I'm noticing a pattern.

Kojima didn't compose the MGS theme, you imbecile.

>>720644989
This retard still takes the retard crown in this thread.

lowest iq thread in the system

>>720647238
La creatividad invented theme song

>>720644564 (OP)
I saw some 90s action flick the other day which had the mgs2 plant sneaking theme 1:1 with some added drums.
Unfortunately forgot which movie it was since im watching 10 movies every day but kojima is a hack.

never listen to the speed movie or the rock movie OST

>>720649686
Oh yeah The Rock it was!
In reference to this >>720649297

>>720645690
Say thanks to Anton for not hearing classic main theme in later games.

>>720644564 (OP)
Square Enix plagiarized the shinra theme.

It is more funny when it's the other way around.
Like some uber gangster rap pretending to be cool but it's actually just a mario theme sampled back and forth.

>>720644564 (OP)
MGS composer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tappi_Iwase

Particularly sucked for Harry Gregson-Williams, who got wrongfully accused of plagiarism for his rearrangement of the MGS theme for MGS2.

>>720649297
How is Kojima the hack when the game component of MGS shits on whatever trash you like? He should have been able to trust his composers to be original. Anyway, you guys can't seem to handle the face the music industry steals from each other all the time.

>>720648725
Highest IQ thread actually if you consider what's actually happening.

>>720652985
Because he and by extention his whole team seems to operate on the premise of 'your idea, is my idea'

>>720644564 (OP)
All artists do this, you should do this too

This is why patents and copyright laws are gay too

>>720651418
That also happened, this is about the mgs2 intro. you're thinking of the mgs1 intro that supposedly plagaraised another song from the same composer.

>>720644564 (OP)
>>720644989
Zoom zoom

>>720653332
After 500 years everything has been done already. There are only so many notes.

Wait until you watch escape from LA

>STOLEN
>only vaguely similar

>>720650169
Nah, you blame Konami for being cheap fucks who chose to acquiesce instead of fighting it when it wasn't even similar.

wait until OP hears What's the Buzz and finds out the Mario Starman theme came from a concept album about Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X4h9TEwPRY

>>720644564 (OP)
But Kojima was not the composer of the game.

>>720644564 (OP)
Taking a motif from a famous composer is an incredibly common thing for composers to do.
Also pretty sure Kojima didn't personally make the music.

>>720644564 (OP)
>Wait till zoom zoom know about John Williams and Mars Suite

>>720644564 (OP)
Dude hasn't had a single idea he hasn't repackaged.

>>720644989
y'all got anymore of them buzzwords

I played MGS2 and 3 recently and I don't understand why these games are considered masterpieces.

>>720644564 (OP)
>music
Harry gregson williams

That's a weird way of spelling kojima

>>720663397
It was Tappy actually. Harry Gregson-Williams's first work for Konami was Sons of Liberty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7DrIWcrdI

>>720644564 (OP)
This came out like 20 years ago. Should've paid top keep it or whatever though, it was a sick theme.

>>720644989
>crapcom
>damage control
pick one

>>720646424
Yes, snake. Believe it or not. Plagiarism is presenting someone else's language, thoughts, ideas, or work as your own without proper acknowledgement or citation. This can include copying text, using another's original ideas, incorrectly paraphrasing, or even reusing your own previous work without reference. It is a form of academic and professional dishonesty that violates principles of integrity and fairness, and can lead to serious consequences such as failing grades, expulsion, job loss, or legal action. Have you seen the film Seven Samurai from 1954, Snake? It was plagiarized by a film called The Magnificient Seven in 1960.

the melody is totally different you are tone deaf. classic music often leverages like the exact same progressions and people vary the melody on them and how things are harmonized.
variations on a theme from X is literally like one of the most common names of pieces
How this type of music works is how you extrapolate and explore the specific theme/motif something have one part that kind of sounds similar just isn't even note worthy.

>>720664336
>the melody is totally different you are tone deaf
What's this from 0:34 then
https://youtu.be/rJHGoH2cdqo?t=34
And 0:52
https://youtu.be/zqqq8uqSDnk?t=52

>>720660042
Can't blame them for not being deaf as you are?

>>720644564 (OP)
>Written as film music to the 1975 Russian movie "Metel"

>>720664601
here's the sheet music for those two parts
all you are hearing is someone going down 4 notes the rhythm and general section is not even comprable

>>720644564 (OP)
TAPPY plagarized*

Also big fucking deal, lol. It's not even 1:1 copy, the metal gear motif is clearly distinct from this. It's such a massive nothingburger that I'm shocked people still bring it up. They should have stood their ground and kept using the theme but them being japanese and respectful immediately dropped it. Would have been nice to hear that theme in mgs4 and 5

>>720644564 (OP)
i'm not one to listen to vidya soundtracks and i'm sure i've heard this a trillion times before in all sorts of places.

>>720665645
>plagiarism

when you are an auteur like kojima, it's called "paying homage"

For me it's Norihiko Hibino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tOwTqXg0bE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRu9_we3j-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YaNMEpkFFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qr8e4LH8P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyPgx_enVlU

3 had the best version

>>720664601
they are similar but different, but there are no grounds in music theory for it to actually be "plagiarized". This is always the case with these music lawsuits.

enter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5ef_KAZlY

>>720644564 (OP)
Sample packs are widespread.
Anyone who does music composition for games uses them, you can’t use a DAW without them
Unless you’re using a synth.
But even then it has preprogrammed VSTs.

>>720667512
How did Nintendo get away with it?

>>720667825
let's not talk about it

>>720667805
Addendum :
If you’ve ever played MGS:2 SoL, and the Hitman Trilogy you’ll hear the same sample from the water hall used in Marrakesh 1:1, wasn’t even mixed differently.

>>720667940
And yes I’m the guy who posts here occasionally whose bands music has been featured in more than a few big named games.

We did the score for an entire game, changed the entire course of our history. We scrapped an entire album after doing the score after finding “industry secret” plugins.

>>720664316
>Have you seen the film Seven Samurai from 1954, Snake? It was plagiarized by a film called The Magnificient Seven in 1960.
lmao

>>720649297
trust the process
godjima is cooking in his lair in the far away land
he's making a new game where cameras are sentient
this one will surpass metal gear
it's his final masutoru pissu
be patient gaijin

>>720668275
Ever heard of time travel sweetie?

You wtf? I didn't know Japs plagiarized

>>720669256
>A GUY WITH AN EYEPATCH IS SMOKING
>AND HIS NAME IS SNAKE?!
>AIIIIEEEEE CALL THE POLICE!

Some podcast ages ago had Kojima on and actually played this for him at the end. It didn't show his reaction at all, just cut to random gameplay clips of MGS3, then in MGS4, it was gone.

>>720644564 (OP)
>three notes
>stealing
Zommie....

>>720669457
Yes, Metal Gear Solid's Solid Snake was directly inspired by Snake Plissken, the protagonist of John Carpenter's 1981 film Escape from New York. Hideo Kojima, the creator of Metal Gear, was a fan of the movie and borrowed the character's name, gruff demeanor, and even the idea of a lone operative in a hostile environment, referencing the film in later Metal Gear games with the codename "Pliskin"

Idiots. Hideo was the plagiarizing retard. Kojima was always against it even at the very beginning when they linked up. Still, after they stopped working together the quality of the games dropped hard (MGS4) since the copied stuff was neatly selected.

I stopped caring after I heard how much Koji Kondo stole. Guy is a giga hack.

>>720670023
Protag is also tasked with rescuing some political figure from a bunch of terrorists
And he's also unbeknownstly infected with a deadly virus

>>720644564 (OP)
it's called inspiration you retard

>>720644989
Nice bait

>>720670538
>yeah I was just so inspired by that obscure russian composer, that I've just taken his work without changing it, and then I've proceeded to never tell anyone about the source of my inspiration because I was just such a big fan.

>>720644564 (OP)
>/v/ newfags don't know about Tappy's plagiarism and how Kojima dropped him like hot potato in MGS4
Lurk more faggots

>>720664316
>cute
>and a walking talking encyclopedia
my kinda woman.

>>720670538
THE JOOST I love you stephanie!

>>720644564 (OP)
we learned that a billion years ago kid. that's why the main theme of 4 sucks because the good part was removed.

Super Mario's iconic theme comes from an obscure song from like the 70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfxgbsXeTdE

>Kojima single handedly makes video games and no one but Shinkawa deserves any credit!
>unless they catch plagiarized music, that's it

The irony is that they were almost going to sue Konami for MGS being Escape From New York rip off

>>720665846
>pliskin, i saw someone wearing a cardboard box just now... it looks so dumb.

>>720644564 (OP)
Kojima plagiarized like half of mgs's plot from other works anyway. Who cares?

>>720644564 (OP)
camerasisters... not like this...

>>720644564 (OP)
one of the konami composers did, and kojima was unaware the melody wasn't an original composition, so he stopped using it after mgs3 or 4 when he found out

he should have kept using it, cause the mgs theme goes beyond this piece
does sviridov even mind? is he even alive? he's probably thrilled someone liked his music

He plagiarised 95% of metal gear from 80's Hollywood and Angel Cop. They're still absolute kino so who cares?

>>720644564 (OP)
Wikipedia said Tappi Iwase plagiarized it. If that's the case then you can't really blame Kojima for that. Someone shouldn't be expected to have heard every single song on earth.

>>720672901
this is mario world
what happen was this song was used for commercials in japan, kids grew up listening to it, and koji kondo ended up borrowing it decades later probably not realising where it came from

>>720644564 (OP)
oh no, lets change star wars and superman's music!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf47W9rXzRM

I didn't know

>>720644564 (OP)
Kojima isn't a composer. Stop being so dumb, lmao.

based Nintendo would've just sued the original composer and never let this happen, Kojima is a cuck

>>720644564 (OP)
oh no!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtRU8cMp0Nk

>>720644564 (OP)
>spent my childhood whistling MGS theme whenever I was bored
>now I whistle the OG Sviridov song instead, I don't even remember what the MGS theme was like
I'm ashamed for my words and deeds

>>720644564 (OP)
Japs do this shit all the time.

>>720675047
https://youtu.be/aZaSgnYLceQ

>>720668718
>muh racism and soggy knee
Stop it I decided to hate him after DS2 don't make me like him again

>>720675190
jerry get speed shoes

>>720675190
I can't believe this is real. The Japones race has no honor and sudoku is the only path for them

>>720675047
all composers borrow from things they've heard
sometimes consciously, but usually not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgMNJHrutVs

>>720675190
do they even show seinfeld in japan?
I bet what happened was the composer tried to copy it for fun
then one day at work, he needed to create a zany theme within a day, so he thought, why not just use this track he did as practice

>this thread
Japs have never been creative so that's hardly surprising. They are good at refining and combining concepts but that's about it. They completely lack the creative spark required in order to come up with new concepts.

>>720644564 (OP)
it's over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8nGA18TkEk

>>720675654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH_nTOXqoPY

>>720675945
jeri-san!

>>720675945
"my neighbor seinfeld"
could be a porno title lmao

>>720675945
Seinfeld is too Jewish to be funny and I'm tired of pretending anyone but the Jews can relate to it

>>720676918
youre supposed to laugh at the seinfeld cast not with them

>>720677123
Jews just make me sad. Tragic self-hating race with suicidal tendencies