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Silksong thread

Where to go for walll jump and/or double jump?

>Want to get a move on a beat the game
>Also want to beat Bilewater
I'm so exhausted bros

stupid sexy sherma

>>720696074 (OP)
If by my life or death I can protect him…

>>720696194
Wall jump is just on the main path.
Double jump is much later and not even required to "beat" the game.

>>720696817
Decent runback

>>720696194
>Wall Jump
Shellwood
>Double Jump
Mount Fay

>>720696074 (OP)
Shota or Loli?

I absolutely love the feral grunting all the weavers do.

>>720697419
Shota. But thicc.

>>720697389
I just got it and now wtf

>>720698668
Ignore me, I have to head west then up around I guess

>>720696817
Faggot ass runback and the reason why this game won't win GOTY

>>720696074 (OP)
Mesugaki coded character

>>720696817
Last judge runback is baby shit, bilewater is the real deal

>>720698668
Please dont post images of Hornet's skirt blowing up in the wind like this

>>720700580
Japanese artist who used to do lots of cool drawings/comics for the original HK and got featured in a blogpost by cherry one time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdHskxJrSnw

Lace says to lynch all jannies!

I just beat the hunters path boss and i wanted to blow my brains out.
Went back to the moss area and there's a bug/mole boss that vomits acid. I hope i get something good after i kill it.

is there anything in this terminus area

On my way back to Hunter's march and realized there was a weird room with creepy muttering, a sign about opening up bugs, and long walls that kept me from going up before wall jump. Was there anything there before the void bug gauntlet with a memory crest?

>>720700881
>something cool
lol
lmao, even

>>720700943
Please don't say that!

>>720700669
I tool-cheesed that boss after the first try, fuck that noise

>>720700913
The fake final boss.

>>720700913
You can break one of the tunnel lids to get an item but mostly it's a dead that you can access more of in act 3

>>720700913
Don't worry about it.

>Act 3
>Find the charm that protects from double damage once on the dead ant

Welp that would have been a good find 20 hours ago.

>>720700787
The dream nail part always makes me chuckle.

>>720700876
Wjy is she so alluring, bros?

Just found the hidden zone in moss to upgrade Hunter Crest. Are there more of these, specifically for Reaper or wanderer?

>>720700913
A silk eater.
Try breaking the floor

>>720701197
No, they already come with gimmicks

Bonebottom is abandoned apart from some hostile flies picking over the remains in my game in act 3.
Some of the npcs in Songclave say the sentinel is protecting them and bellhaven has Chakra protecting it. If I didn't awaken the second sentinel would songclave be dead and conversely is there something I should have done to save bonebottom?

do I really want to try fighting the savage beastfly

>>720696817
Decent but can be better, you dont have to wait for the mosquito to spawn, just keep sprinting past it

>>720696074 (OP)
goty

>>720701170
Yeah reminds me that I killed millybug by accident on my first time through

why did the NIGGERJANNY delete the other thread?

>>720701229
The builder guy makes a survivor's camp somewhere in the marrow and there's very short a courier route there

>>720701361
janny might be starting to get mad that videogame discussion is on the videogame board.

>>720696817
that's fucking slow, I'd be embarrassed posting this

What's the optimal route for the courier delivery for the oil?

>>720701281
Yeah it's way easier now with all the abilities and upgrades you've amassed.

>>720701197
>>720701225
But there are other weavenests.

>>720701281
I think you can get boomerang+poison charm in shellwood first. Spamming tools on adds is the way

>>720701461
The purpose of that webm is to mock people who whine about how long the runback for Last Judge is by showing that even if you go slowly and carefully it only takes 30 seconds.

>>720701509
alright

>>720701479
I found the sanic charm already but no good upgrades

>>720701509
I feel like the souls series is filled with way longer (and way more boring) runbacks, yet it doesn't catch a fraction of the flack about it

>>720701361
Silksong pushing too many BBC threads off front page

>Cucked out of the 100% completion achievement because of a glitch
I know it's just a dumb picture no one else gives a shit about but it still makes me kind of mad after putting 25 hours into the game.

>>720701580
because souls games, for a long time, have been known as the fake difficulty games that are propped up entirely by redditors who want to say they did something.

>>720696386
Sherma SEXO

>>720701361
Nikke thread died for this...

>>720701489
>poison charm
so thats what turns the tools purple, I thought it was some permanent secret upgrade

i fucking hate pajeet click farm slop

>>720701661
What was the bug? Missing out on the speedrun completion must feel like crap

I just beat Bilewater and got to the next area. But it's one so fucking small, with just a big guy gicing me a wish quest.

>>720701915
This is why I'm glad they didn't give out review codes prior to release, because journo's just use that as an excuse to shit out a million shitty articles about every aspect of the game, it ruins the surprise. It's hard to believe but for the first few days here act 3 was basically a myth, no one had reached it and no one knew how to reach it. Everyone was in the same boat

Me and the tall warrior lady with bracelet chakarhams just killed a bunch of ants.

>>720696817
I don't even care if the runback isn't that bad, I'm sick and tired of fighting the same bitch for hours. I have seriously tried like 40 times now and I get three stunlocks but can't get further.

>>720702096
I went exploring into far fields the minute a found it and that prevented her from showing up to help there, but she did show up for the path to Beast Chapel.

>>720702125
Just go the back way at that point

So. What are your load outs?
First run:
>Hunter Crest. Silkspear
>Curveclaw (melts bosses. Later replaced by Conchcutter)
>Cogfly (the exploration mvp)
>Fractured Mask (critical for early game)
>Pollip Pouch (I replace this with other stuff)
>Longclaw
>Silkspeed Anklets (the silk consumption is minimal)
>Compass
>Shard Pendant (those cogflies ain't free)

Steel Soul run
>Wanderer Crest. Silkstorm
>Curveclaw (I won't have cogfly, so I don't think I'll replace this since it's better to hit airborne enemies)
>Fractured Mask (critical for steel soul)
>Pollip Pouch (I replace this with other stuff)
>Longclaw
>Silkspeed Anklets (the silk consumption is minimal)
>Magnetite Dice (the damage negation is clutch for this mode. I also think it gives more criticals to Wanderer)
>Weighted Belt (for that wanderer mad dps)
>Shell Satchel (I need all the boomerangs I can bring to the bosses)

I really slept on Wanderer my first playthrough. The pogo is extremely OP both for commbat and exploration. The cogwork climb you can go your own route like it's path of pain really fast.
I really miss the cogflies, but the moveset and speed is really worth

>>720700669
I'm at Mount Fay right now (not actually sure if I'm supposed to be here or not). How much further until I get to Bilewater? Last upgrade I got was the Clawline.

**Is it ever implied which weavernest that herrah and her entourage used to live in?
I was really expecting there to be a moment where hornet stumbles across an area and it's literally an exact copy of the town back in deepnest**

>>720701952
At some point a craftmetal must have randomly disappeared from my inventory because I still need one more to buy a tool but I've collected all 8 of the them.

>>720702125
just stop sucking ass. she's got three attacks that become "explosive". don't rush if you are that bad. she took me like 10 tries at most and that feels embarrassing.

>>720702125
just avoid the fire my man

>>720702182
lmao, I can't. My game won't spawn the stupid jailer to capture me and take me to the act 2 zone early. I literally can't get there because of a stupid fucking random bullshit mob not showing up. I've spent hours looking for him in all three locations and he's not there.

>>720702125
Do you have the Magma Bell charm? I'm not going to say it trivializes the fight, but it makes it far more manageable and more fun.

>>720702125
stop trying to rush and just focus on dodging for a few runs. Once you know when she stops, just hit once and continue dodging. The fire spin attack shows you where to go before it ignites, and float when she does the dash punch

>>720702125
Are you using the fire resistance charm? It turns a bunch of the 2-damage hits in phase two into 1-damage hits that're easier to deal with

>>720702125
Just play better :)

How do we feel about Nuu?

what's his fucking problem

>>720701470
Cheat engine the meter back to full

finally got seths tranny memento, what an unfun choice to have high scores like that
act 3 makes the game 6-7 based on how annoying some segments are

>>720702361
Where do I find this little bugger?

>>720702361
hes a ssssimp

>Witch crest
Is it OP? I've been running reaper the since I got it.

>>720702408
sinner's road, you can get there once you have the wall jump

>>720702261
I'm talking about sinners road

>>720702361
Unironically hoping you eat his children before they eat him. The NPC in the Putrified Ducts who looks like him is a mother who is trying to get meat for her children to eat so they won't eat her.

>>720702361
he's LITERALLY me

>>720702408
he's hiding out behind a breakable wall in the sinner's area with all the dogs

>>720702260
>>720702258

My problem isn't the first phase but the second. She'll get me stuck in a corner and spam the same attack which prevents me from leaving unless I take the two damage and retreat.

Reaper is too slow but I can play keep-away a lot easier and keep my silk topped off. Alternatively I can speed run the first phase as Wanderer but there's no good damage windows once she starts exploding. I'm using extended heal and mask for my blues, anklets and dice for yellows. Best damage window for her is if I'm right next to her when she does ground flames or ball casting, but I get fucked up when she does the bullrush and I jump into the columns of fire trying to get away from her.

>>720702361
Is he related to the huntress? Like are they the same type of bug?

>>720702301
>>720702285
god damn it I forgot to even try that. I can use it in place of mask, because getting 4 health back is pretty crucial to my survival because I'm very bad at getting hit.

There really should be more damage resistance tools in this game. We currently have:
>Magma Bell
>Anti-Maggot
That's it. With the amount of 2 damage stuff there is, giving the player the option to get half damage for the designated environmental damage type in exchange of a blue slot would've been neat, but we only ever get that for fire for some reason.

>>720702512
she literally can't get you stuck. i got attacked by the longer spin fire blaze and there was enough space to dodge the fire waves anyway. you suck. stop panicking.

>>720702125
Last Judge isn't THAT hard, come on. 40 times? Just don't get hit so much

>>720702480
Oh you mean towards the Mists? Yeah I said fuck that, I'll just spend some time doing the lame runback to fight Judge. Is that boss an easier act 1, provided you make it through the mist?

>>720702478
I've only been there once and it was to find the guy's brother in Bellhart. Also what the FUCK were they thinking with the bench there?

>>720702635
Yeah, the mist leads to an easier boss with a shorter runback

>>720702660
Believe me. It gets worse

>>720702660
you can fix it

>>720702660
there's a breakable wall in that room bro

>>720702714
I know, I'm talking about the fact that it's behind a bullshit hidden wall and then an insane platforming gauntlet.

>>720702679
I'm going to try magma bell run a few dozen more times and then I'll submit and play keep away from banshees.

>>720702606
You know it's probably 50 by now... I've lost count and it's been days.

>>720702125
Last Judge is easily one of the most honest boss fights in the game. Every time you get hit is because you fucked up, she has no bullshit whatsoever.

>>720702660
>find the guy's brother in Bellhart
absolutely insane how different this game can flow from person to person, I haven't even gotten that quest yet, Either way it's a kind of conspicuous hidden wall to the bottom right of the area iirc

>>720702740
>insane platforming gauntlet.
i hope you're a kid but either way you are a wuss lmao

>>720702660
They want you to go "wow, this place is a shithole"
Also to use your gamer intuition and go "there has to be a way to fix it, let me look around"

>>720702764
>>720702594
>she literally can't get you stuck.
Yeah she can, phase 1 she'll jump at you, you back up. Jumps again, even less space. Then does the ball swing TWICE IN A ROW and I'm chugging silk before I got in more than five hits on her.

>>720702783
I didn't even know that Moorwing was a fight because I skipped him with the flea circus.

>>720702790
Based

>>720702790
tbf it's easily the hardest platforming in the area which is kind of hilarious to put the bench behind

Yo guys Hornet doesn’t need to be standing on the ground to heal, she can do it mid fucking air. Knightsissies, how do we respond to this?!

KAI, LAI-LAI-LAI-LAI
OOSHKA-LOOOW, LAH
KAI, LAI-LAI-LAI-LAI
OOOSHKAAH, MYESHKA LAI-AH
KAI, LAI-LAI-LAI-LAI
MYESHKA RO, MYESHKA ROO-OH

>>720702829
>Yeah she can, phase 1 she'll jump at you, you back up.
If she's jumping then why are you backing up?

>>720702829
even that ant miniboss at the beginning teaches you to go under when an enemy jumps

Does anybody know how to catch this little guy? I've gotten close enough to him but he goes into hiding at the same exact time. He's in that shooting range room in Far Fields, and I think he only appears in act 3.

FARIDURA SINANET
DONIPUANA VORINET
PINASAMI MAINISET
DANA FONSIUROVA

>lmao not that hard, you can't even beat an honest boss
I mean I know I suck, but come on. Shit's getting to me how hard I get slammed when I run into the vertical flame columns or am slightly too close to the exploding ball.

>>720702895
I like her but she's also africancoded.
I'm so conflicted right now

who uses this, I got used to the default pogo and it's so much worse

>>720702940
>10 life points
I must really suck at finding mask shards. I am at the part where I need to find the three songs and have literally only found 4 shards.

>>720702953
>when I run into the vertical flame columns or am slightly too close to the exploding ball.
XD damn you suck

>>720702210
Bilewater is on the complete other side of the map. The way I got there was by breaking a wall in Sinner's Road.

What the actual fuck kind of game design is that? A major area that you access by breaking a hidden wall with zero hints except for like one dead bug corpse (which you see all the time elsewhere). Same thing with Petrified Ducts. I went in via the Memorium map room, but only b/c I saw a map online.

>>720696817
I actually liked this runback
It was fun to optimize

I've gotten the three songs and I'm now fighting Lace... Am I meant to have the double jump by now?

>>720702940
That's not the target

>>720696817
Any runback that is more than 5 seconds is bad.

So which do you anons like better the Hive or Hunters nest? Ants seem pretty cool compared to the Bees

>>720703015
You can get it, but you don't need it to beat the game

>>720702940
its a test of your skill at using their tool

>>720696074 (OP)
Same energy

>>720703015
I recommend grabbing that
It’s in the snowy area

>>720703015
It's not required. You can beat the game without it.

>>720702981
i gave beast a try on the true final boss and immediately swapped off of it
terrible

>>720702940
He's fren

>>720702981
I wish I could use it more but every time I hate the lack of blues. I practiced with it a lot and it has a lot of great strengths, but that downward attack is in great need of a buff. It ends too soon and you can take a hit if you activate it too close; both of those can fuck off, but I rather have the avoidance of taking damage on enemies if I'm headbutting next to them.

>>720703015
It's optional but helpful to have.

>>720696074 (OP)
Are comfy threads over? I burned out, but I need to get 100% like the rest of you.

>>720702968
did africa not invite you to its birthday party or something?

>>720702895
>>720702968
Hot African lady (not African-American but actually African) is good

>>720700876
I know what she's sitting on.

Speedruns are down to just over an hour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWgAOLujsA0

>>720703157
My gaming hand started to get sore and now I have to wait for it to get better before I can start gaming in an effective manner again :(

>>720702932
>>720702903
True, I do know to dash under her, that's why I have anklets on. I guess I see her jump attack as an attack opportunity so rather than going under her, I step back and have enough time for two or three hits, depending on crest. That gets me into tight spots. Am I not suppose to be greedy with her? One poke at a time is how I play it with Reaper and it takes twice as long for her to explode over being an eager Wanderer.

>>720702953
You're probably panicking or getting greedy out of desperation. There's only you and the boss. And he only has 4 attacks. If you can learn to dodge each of them then he can never kill you.

Whats with he wah wah citadel children between the blasted steps and karak sands? They only come out for music

>>720703060
>>720703106
Oh shit really? I kinda wanna try to beat the game without it then...
>>720702968
You can think of her as amazonian if that makes it any better

Just finished the game at 85% completion.
I had to give up and get help on finding Putrified Ducts and getting to the Pollen Heart
Really great game. $20 price tag is legitimately shocking, this is one of the most content dense non-infinite games ever released.


Please get me up-to-date on what /v/ has said about this game since its release. Is there a fan favorite boss? Is there a designated item/build used by total shitters to cheese the game to a free victory and why is it the cogwork bee summon tool?

>>720700724
I'm fully aware that this is a "me problem" but I get taken out of it when the protagonist is meant to be cool and capable and I just watched them eat absolute shit (due to my control thoughbeit) 1000000 times.

>>720703004
The intended route for the average first time player is to get there through Whispering Vaults, which is why its tramway is closer to the Vaults entrance. The breakable wall is for people to access it early if they're paying attention, since that also gives an alternate route to Act 2 that bypasses Last Judge.

>>720703302
>Is there a fan favorite boss?
Yes

>>720703336
>alternate route to Act 2 that bypasses Last Judge.
huh?

>>720703284
If you're going that direction, you're dead because the citadel is the only safe location in the world.

>need to do a mini gauntlet before each Karmelita attempt
But why? I'd rather have a shitty runback

>Hunter crest
Pogoing sucks until you get some movement abilities and used to it. Really good once its upgraded honestly
>Reaper
Perfect balance, zero complaints
>Wanderer
Only one red, almost zero complaints
>Architect
You didnt beat the game status

Above are all good, but lets look at the losers

>Witch Crest
Lmao no heals
>Shaman Crest
3 whites? When the fuck do you need 3?
>Beast
lmao everything

Seriously what the fuck were they thinking with half the crests?

>>720703302
>favorite boss
Willow, Phantom, Lace, not Last Judge
>shitters
poison charm + tool spam, and yeah it's the bee

>>720703336
>an alternate route to Act 2 that bypasses Last Judge.
Wait what?

>>720700913
SLEEPY SILKOE CAN'T KEEP ME INSIDE

>>720703280
>Am I not suppose to be greedy with her?
Like I said before: she's one of the most honest bosses in the game. She will punish you for being greedy. For me her fight was a similar mindset to Grimm's, but a lot easier since she's the act 1 final boss instead of postgame DLC obviously.

>>720703259
why is it in chinese

>>720703302
>Is there a fan favorite boss?
Universal agreement on the dancers being top 3.
The true final boss is either an S or a D though.

>>720703370
You can go through the mist from sinners path and arrive at the bottom of the citadel where the bell beast travelway is which is objectively the best way to enter it.
Last Judge is fun however so I turned around and came the right way after I stumbled in that way.

>>720703302
Everyone says they're waiting for First Sinner extended fight in the DLC because he's so amazing but short.

>>720703367
Yeah that's a great fight. I enjoyed Lace 1 too, but I'm just an act 1 scrub getting checked at the citadel gates.

>>720700913
Terminus is just the first legit resting area.

>>720703040
Hive looks prettier and more unique, ant's are just another forest, but with bone structures scattered.

>>720703385
To build up your silk

>>720703445
Faster text

>>720703370
You can go through the exhaust organ to get to the citadel. It even causes some weirdness where you can go back out the front gate but then it's still closed.

>>720703302
IMO
Lace, Phantom, Mother Silk, Dancers.

Lot of other good ones but those were my favorites

>silksong thread is no longer the top thread when sorting by posts per minute

it's over bros

relevant captcha

>>720703404
I don't like the healing range of Witch, I love the movement so it's my main crest

>>720703451
true final boss is like B tier. it would be an S tier, but it loses two tiers. one for being a third fucking Lace fight, and another for a core part of the boss design being that P3 Lace's tells are intentionally being hidden behind screen gunk which is retarded

>>720703428
Sinners Road > Mist > exhaust organ > cathedral

ZANZIBOOOOOO

>>720703040
I like the culture of the ants but Hive looks cooler, even if it seems unfinished

She's so cool.

>>720703302
>favorite boss
I adore how goofy the Pinstress is

>>720703435
thanks for the tips, I'll try a few more goes before bed and hit it early tomorrow

magma bell, don't get greedy, be calm...

All this frustration aside, I do like the boss design. It's not bullshit I'm dying to, it's my failure to keep it together.

>>720703558
I love everything about Witch except its dogshit healing.
I could even forgive bad healing if the game didnt have so much bullshit platforming meaning you really want the ability to heal outside of combat.

IMO it and beast should have a 2 heal plus their lifesteal.

I forgot about mario and luigi deep dock brothers gauntlet fight before Act 3, now some of the ads are voided lol

>>720703539
>steam playercount trannies are evolving to 4chan post per minute chart trannies
disgusting

>>720703609
This shit is so fucking silly and out of place but I can't help but love it so much

>>720703609
>Fwoomp

I'm assuming I'm nearing the end of Act 2. Do I need a guide to unlock Act 3?

>>720702125
Don't worry anon, someone spent 10 hours on the beasfly. You're doin fine

>>720703464
>>720703510
huh , I've been putting off stuff that didn't seem to go forward, guess I pussed out

They're both dudes, right?

>>720703762
>He didn't get the lore dump from the Green Prince

>>720703020
>>720703067
>>720703114
HOLY SHIT IT WORKED.
I feel retarded now because it didn't occur to me to make the connection. Of course the hunter ant in a hunter shooting range would have a hunter boomerang related test.
I'm gonna test this new weapon.
>>720702995
Some of them are really well hidden. I was missing a single one that was in Wisp Thicket and I had to look it up, but the rest I found them organically during the game.

>>720703762
They're robots, anon.

>>720703662
it's just a shitpost m8

>>720702247
You probably just didn't pick one of them up.

>>720703772
>>720703791
They both make male noises in the Verdania fight

>>720702347
I find it intriguing that she's a slug whose name is sort of a reversal of Unn's, though they don't really seem to have any kind of connection otherwise.
>>720702361
Probably a former worshiper of GILF Silk buckbroken by societal slave mentality and desperate for a mistress to serve so he can live what he views to be a fulfilling life.

>>720703709
Move the fleas to the lake, and do enough wishes in all three spots until the guy in Songclave gives you a special task. I unlocked it on accident without a guide simply because I liked doing all the side content instead of rushing to the end. The worst part is having to beat the Bilewater boss.

>I did a ton of backtracking and exploration
>Somehow missed every single characters world quests and them helping you on bosses
Should put a bell on some of these bugs because I keep missing them.

blender scene update for anons who were in the other thread.
i flattened out the needle. thanks to the guy with the pinmaster caps

https://files.catbox.moe/4wk8n6.mp4
I don't really have any ideas, just fucking around.

How does the quest with the various organ types work? I randomly got a Skewered Organ when killing an enemy with the boomerang. I assume the flintknife drops seared organs, what gives me the shredded orfans? And for that matter, what enemies can drop organs to begin with?

>>720702482
lul, I like that

>>720703649
>IMO it and beast should have a 2 heal plus their lifesteal.
I'd settle for 1 health and extended bind period natively, maybe use that bind extender for 2 and even longer heal window. As is there's just no reason to gimp yourself by having one complete less charm slot.

>>720703713
>10hrs on beastfly.
At what point do you just admit you suck and uninstall.exe?

>>720703874
>Move the fleas to the lake
Do I just need to free a certain amount for them to do this?

I swear my heal button didn't work about 10% of the time during the Nyleth boss fight.

Why'd they give Lace such wide hips?

>>720703957
Probably.
You can find the warrior flea who will mark all the unfound fleas on your map for you.

>>720702857
Equip the shaman crest

>>720703970
To be like her mom.

>>720703928
>what gives me the shredded orfans?
I used the sawblades.
>And for that matter, what enemies can drop organs to begin with?
Anything living, including minor trash.

>>720703957
You also need to find the lake and interact with the object that makes Hornet go "I should tell the fleas to move here."

>>720703928
architect drill gives shredded

>>720703539
the obsessors have already dumped 60+ hours into it lol

>>720703762
yup

>>720696074 (OP)
>In sands of karak
>platforming sequence moves to the left
>Wind pushes player to the right.
>While floating, Hornet gets turned around to the right.
>In order to aim the needle throw, I have to face left.
>Forced to tap the controller left, in order to get Hornet to turn left. But not too much, because moving too far left will ruin spacing.
>While I'm floating and tapping left, I brush up against the wall, and the game registers it as wanting to cling to the wall, undoing the float.
>Simultaneously, I lift my finger for the next tap.
>Because I lifted my finger during the brief frame that the game thought I was clinging, I come un-clung, and lose all momentum or grip, plummeting down like a rock and taking damage.

I hate team cherry so much. When I finally 100% the game, you will never hear the end about how bad it is.

>>720703970
so she can hohoho louder

>>720703994
>warrior flea
Where do I find him at?

>>720703791
https://youtu.be/GI4NvFzeC8o?si=85zkqimiTT651bds&t=284
>>720703970
Fanservice

>>720703157
I've been playing really slowly, not even at the citadel yet although I think I've explored nearly everything I can beforehand besides some of the slab and blasted steps

>>720704076
Top of Putrified Ducts
Theres a hidden wall going up in the room right before where you get the cant be poisoned tool

>The soundtrack is unmemorabl-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8wGcWeXwg

>>720703494
I'm not good enough to not get hit and not waste that silk healing back up

>weavers
>Grand Mother Silk
>sniggers
>The Choir
Who are the real villains of Silksong?

>>720704152
Thanks

>>720703970
It's for silk extraction. She needs a large amount of silk to sustain her. It's in the lore, you see.

>>720704178
The only track in the entire game that even approaches Dirtmouth, Soul Sanctum, or City of Tears is the Choral Chambers theme

>>720703336
how many ways to circumvent the judge even are there?

>>720702968
She made me think Aztec for some reason. Probably because the Amazon is full of murder bugs.

Any hints on what opens that door a beast keeps banging on in Far Fields? I tried playing it a song, and it actually stopped for a bit, but nothing else happened

>>720704224
Bratty half-brother having a giggle.

>>720704224
How did grandmommy silk get put to sleep, anyway?

>>720704224
There are no villains or heroes. There is only what each individual thinks is good for the world.

Why no refights of the main bosses like in Hollow Knight except like 2-3?

>>720704267
Seek a hidden path in the room below

Is there enough Simple Keys to unlock everything that needs one?

>>720704267
Opens from the other side, like most (all?) doors with no activation/interaction.
To get there start at the nearby train station there is a secret passage

>>720704326
It's probably coming, the devs love that shit.

>>720703949
Never. You wear those hours like some sort of dunce hat and proudly display them

>>720703404
I can sort of see what they were going for with beast with it encouraging a hyper-aggressive playstyle but that doesn't work with bosses all that well and the pogo is what people who can't play video games think the hunter pogo is like. It was my second crest after reaper and I went to switch back immediately

>>720704337
Yea 4 keys 4 doors
The door in the citadel is borderline worthless and feels like a scam.

>>720704302
Weavers built the citadel to put her to sleep using song

>>720701361
Jannys don't allow current video game threads after a week. Happened to Deadlock, Deltarune, Umamusume, and now Silksong

>>720704337
Yup. I suggest not opening the jail for that guy until later

Why are only like 3 of the crests actually good? Its like Team Cherry was too scared to make more of them good for fear that they would have been overpowered?

>>720704431
Is freeing the Green Prince worth it?

>>720704448
Oh, cool.

>>720704409
Even ignoring that on beast
Beast has no blue slots which are arguably the most important slots on a crest since 90% of your good shit are blue.

>>720704257
I forget how many can be used with just act 1 abilities.

>>720704465
Yes although you can do it any time and it doesn't matter until much later

>>720703004
>A major area that you access by breaking a hidden wall with zero hints except for like one dead bug corpse
Bilewater is a completely optional area if you only care about beating the main game. I find it funny how many people complain about the difficulty of that zone when the game never forces you to go there.
>Same thing with Petrified Ducts. I went in via the Memorium map room, but only b/c I saw a map online
There's a quest that takes you to that roof bridge, and the entrance to the putrified ducts is literally on the opposite site from where you came from. It's really not that hidden.

>>720704513
off the top of my head I just know of that one and the slab, although knowing this game there's probably more

>>720704525
Bilewater is literally required to get to Act 3.
>"B-b-but Act 3 isn't required to beat the ga-"
You didn't beat the game if you didn't do Act 3.

Best Bosses
1. First Sinner
2. Last Judge
3. Phantom
4. Lace (Cradle)
5. Clover/Clockwork Dancers

Hardest Bosses
1. Lost Lace
2. Skarrsinger
3. Tormented Trobbio

>being made entirely of silk who presumably needs more it to stay alive
>immortal princess who can generate infinite silk within herself
yup... it's yuri kino

>>720704265
>Aztec
>Amazon
lmao

>>720704465
Yea, honestly 3/4s of the doors are "meh"
>Deep Docks door just lets you get to the entrance of somewhere you need to go for act 3, I think theres one okay tool ALL the way at the end
>Green Prince is mostly lore/act3 shit and you can get him to help you in act 2 with one random gauntlet (that two others can also help you with)
>Citadels is only rosaries

The only door of any use is the wormways door to let you get some nice early items and open up a full area for you.

>>720704691
I don't give a shit I'm from Australia.

>>720703625
Don't forget to use tools. Silksong bosses have significantly more health than HK1 because of tools. If you're doing one hit at a time, it's going to take forever and you're bound to fuck up somewhere.

>>720704779
Your lands will be conquered soon enough.
By me.

>>720704779
Australian education? And you can't even tell two continents apart?
lmao
lmfao, even

>>720704761
I think there's some vaguely useful stuff in deep deep docks, but yeah.

I can't believe that the fucking Forebrothers were the first boss to give me actual trouble, had to use shards bundle for the first time too ffs

Which Linkin Park songs should I listen to during Hunters March?

>>720704904
Hey, they're a moderately difficult boss that took me like 3 hours

What's the deal with the grumpy guy beneath Bellhart who keeps calling me a slave?

>>720704897
Skimming the interactive map its just warding bell
Which admittedly I used for 90% of the game so was worth it in that regard.

>>720703465
First Sinner is so goddamn good. Beat it on the second attempt and almost upset by that because she was so fun to fight. I wanted to fight her more.

>>720705007
You'll need to talk to him for a quest eventually.

>>720705007
Hes a void snail nigger.
Part of act 3

>>720704978
Breaking the Habit
Numb
Papercut

Let me sum up some of the story for myself
HK1 ending, Knight returned to the void that was his home anyway. Hornet stuck around in the graveyard that Hallownest is
In Pharloom, a Radiance-like god named Grand Mother long ago seduced lesser bugs with the power of her magic Silk. They start a brutal religion in her name, worship her, and eventually everything in and around Pharloom has some Silk in them
Grand Mother needs to feed on soul-silk somehow, so she compels pilgrims (with silk inside) to try and return to her. This eventually stops working, I think she needs more powerful silk and more of it, so she starts abducting Weaver descendants (eventually Hornet) and feeding on their soul-silk
The Haunting is the Grand Mother being so silk-desperate that she's basically eating the souls of pilgrims in Pharloom entirely, leaving them mindless animals
Hornet was originally bred to one day kill and usurp the Grand Mother and become a Weaver goddess, which is why Hornet feels compelled to choose the bad ending.
Eva in the Weavenest was intended to be Hornet before Hornet but was a failure

>>720700787
The bit where he sees dream Zote and just starts stabbing himself gets me every time

>>720704978
Up from the oven

>>720704224
I thought it was the moths.

>>720704761
both that section of deep docks and wormways have back entrances

>>720704326
That's what the memory stuff is for since no dream nail.

>>720705151
dont think you can get to deeper docks without the key

Post your hornets with the best drip.

I'm getting really frustrated on Lost Lace. Mostly because her attack patterns seem random - there's no way to tell whether her parry will be the jump or horizontal slash, there's no way to tell whether the third attack after she does two dashes will be a third dash, a jump, or tentacles, etc, plus she constantly teleports right on top of me. And because her attack patterns and parries seem random you can't exploit openings because oops you tried to jump and bounce over the dash but this time she chose to jump instead, get hit. Just frustrating how beating the fight seems gated behind guessing right enough times or playing incredibly safe.

>>720701186
ohohoho brat

>>720705151
Yeah, but there's nothing really to gain from going to the deep docks locked area early, meanwhile using the wormways key let's you get the wanderer creast really early, as well as skip multiple areas and boss fights in the game, you can go right to belhart.

Dying to know what percentage of Silksong's playerbase dropped Crest of the Hunter for the entire rest of the game the moment they got Wanderer or Reaper because those have a usable fucking downstab

>>720704658
dont forget that the silk being has a FAT FUCKING ASS.

>>720705220
yeah nigger lace is DOGSHIT, don't let faggots here convince you otherwise

>>720704658
>immortal princess who can generate infinite silk within herself
Is this true?

This boss sucked ass and I will fight anyone who defends it.
Pretty much the only boss I said "fuck this Im cheesing it"

>>720705243
I got too used to hunter's down slash and all the others fucked me up so I stuck with it the whole time and never switched

Widow has broken me. I hate her phase 2 so much.

>>720705243
I dropped it because Reaper has cooler stuff and Architect is the best.

>>720705195
this is gay

>>720700787
heh cute

>>720705259
she's either fully immortal or extremely long lived, and making silk in her body is one of her basic abilities

>>720705220
I only did a few attempts but I can beat phase 1. I stay on the ground with Lace close to the edge of the screen and wait for her attack. You want to pogo her when she does the charge (after she stops between charges), then float and pogo her again when she comes back. Your initial distance from her is very important to make this work, so you should find the right distance and always sit there when possible. Also her jump dive you can immediately pogo her. Her other attacks can potentially be punished too depending on position.

>>720705281
What the fuck is this? This is the first time I'm seeing this guy.

>>720705220
1. Let her come to you.
2. Don't stray too far from her. She's prone to teleporting if she goes too far off screen.
3. Figure out which attacks are the easiest to punish and stick with them
4. If the opening is just right, you can sneak in a lot of hits when she summons those delayed projectiles
5. When she does her ground lunge move, only punish the first lunge. The second lunge is a gamble and generally unsafe to punish.

>>720705297
What is tripping you up?

>>720705253
I also forgot to mention that whoever thought it was a good idea to have a black boss on a black background and black floor use attacks that are entirely black and summon black environmental hazards that take several seconds to go off so you need to track multiple black-on-black at once needs to be shot.

>>720705281
Just pogo?

>>720705297
Sit in the corner. Jump when she swipes. Go to center and hit her. Repeat until victory. Occasionally hit the bells back if they run into the corner.

Why did Dirtmouth have so much more soul than Bone Bottom?

>>720705365
Yeah I had massive issues seeing the void tendrils on the ground. It really needs to be telegraphed better. Everything else didn't seem to be a problem though

>in act 2
>explored most of the citadel except for the slabs
what do?

>>720705342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClujSuemiIc

Father of the Flame, some randos video.

I like the idea of a pogo boss but it was so fucking annoying in practice.

>>720705302
But have you considered that it is Beautiful and therefore True and that you are Wrong and should feel Bad

>>720705421
Did you go to The Cauldron?

>>720705412
Because you had to go to Dirtmouth. It was like taking a breath of fresh air. You can practically avoid Bone Bottom until Act 3.

>>720705342
It's in an area that's kind of retarded to find unless you're really paying attention

Above Greymoor on the west. Climb the tower, you'll find a suspiciously grassy area. There's a spot you can climb up on the ceiling.

>>720705220
>Parry
A straight upwards jump beats both. You can dash "into" her on reaction to beat the air counter if she chooses it
>Multi-dash
If you double jump and glide on the first 2 stabs, she will almost guaranteed to the free-punish jump attacks afterwards. The only time this doesn't work is if she's too far, if she's too far she will go for the third dash. Outside of her raw jump attacks this is her most punishable move
>Constantly teleports right on me
Stop sprinting like a retard
>You can't exploit openings
If you're saying this to describe P1/2 you're retarded and bad but yeah that's her final phase definitely. You just dance around waiting for her to do triple-dash or jump attacks so you get one hit in and back to dodging.

>>720704979
the problem is how much fucking health they have, at some point after hitting them a zillion times I went all in and started wailing on them and it still wasn't enough. But considering that they guard something I've got no use for yet I guess they are meant to be fought later with more upgrades (I have only the first sharpening of the needle)

>>720705412
There's way less going on at BB. Also it gets assblasted twice during the game. Mostly feels dead. Bellhome is decent but also a little empty. First Shrine is rather meh. Not to say I don't like the game/world/lore overall, but yeah the towns are not that exciting.

>>720705195
>wearing boots
whw-whuaaaaat?

>>720705412
it wasn't essentially abandoned after a giant monster rampaged through it and killed a bunch of people
the settlements would feel much cozier if they had a couple more NPCs in each of them.

>>720705429
you somehow became one with the gay

>>720705220
I literally just beat her in hour ago after probably 15 or so tries.

1. For the parry, just double jump and move a bit away. It's either straight ahead or she jumps back a bit and does it down at an angle. You should be able to land and get one hit in after.
2. The thrust combo mixup can be solved by jumping above her where the first thrust ends. She always does a second thrust and it has to be to the side so she'll move out in a direction from under you. You then have good spacing to see if the third attack is the third thrust or leap/dive. which you can space appropriately to get some follow up hits.
3. To heal safely, wall jump and double jump high up in the air. None of her attacks can hit that high with the only exception being the glowing white explosions in the second phase but that is not a commonly used attack and seems to have a cooldown.

>>720705463
Yes and I got the skill. I guess I'll have to go back to see what I missed.

>>720705421
What do you mean what do? You should've got the clear goal if you did explore most of it.

>>720705412
Dirtmouth is an actual town, Bone Bottom is a way station that pilgrims pass through

From the stuff I've seen of peoples builds they have an extra blue and yellow slot to the left of their crest. How do you get that? I technically started act 2 but I'm still roaming around act 1 areas checking every nook and cranny.

>>720705464
This

>>720705560
it's a mod

>>720705421
you won't accidentally trigger Act 3. just do everything you obviously can and don't feel bad about fighting the big boss

>>720705540
Go to Mount Fay, not required but it's a fun challenge with a good reward.

>>720705365
I feel playing on a computer monitor right in front of my face at night with no light on helped. I seriously got up and turned my lamp off after a few attempts. Can't imagine doing this on a TV.
Even worse is in phase 2 when she starts summoning the pillars, she can teleport inside of one and be completely invisible and suddenly fly out of it doing a sword attack 5 feet away from you that you cannot react to.

>>720705560
Eva from the Moss Weavenest enhances your crest stuff.

>>720705502
beautiful I know!

>>720705560
Play your instrument at the weaver door where you started the game

POST HOT TAKES

>>720705581
oh if its required to be in act 3 to be able to explore the slabs then I won't worry about it

As good as Silksong is, there is nothing that comes close to the absolute kino of pic related in it.

Anyone here got a favorite website that lists all of the major content in the game to go for (e.g. quests / bossights / etc.) that isn't just an interactive map?
I'm basically asking for a checklist of stuff to finish before moving on to Act 3

If your "Kill X enemies" achievement can't be done organically while playing the game, its shit design meant for padding
Ironically this becomes more tedious the better you are at the game

I feel like you guys overhyped the first sinner fight. It was good but it wasn't one of the best imo. A tier

>>720705735
Why did he have to kill himself...

>>720705412
Because it wasn't a town made of annoying ass bells (dirtmouth is more akin to belhart)

>>720705714
act 3 sucks ass
mount fey is fun
hollow knight is better

>>720705803
Everyone liked it because it literally had zero runback
You could just mindlessly grind that shit out to learn it faster than any other boss in the game

>>720705735
Quirrel would go over people's heads if they don't imagine what he did while the ghost was going around.

>>720705735
It definitely wasn't as atmospheric as Hollow Knight unfortunately and it suffered more in the music department

>>720705842
trvke, all the act 3 bosses are just act 1 bosses they put into act 3 for some reason

>>720700724
Did you have difficulty w/ the original?

Beat it since I kept hearing how hard it was, but it was pretty easy (and disappointing) until the post-game, just seems like normies weren't used to respect-checks and needing to experiment.

Haven't had any interest in Silksong since I figured it could just be another (incredibly gorgeous) overhyped mess.

>>720705714
Hollow Knight is better. While Silksong improves on several aspects of it, it is simply too big for its own good and has several frustrating design choices: Too many flying enemies, too many bosses that summon minions, rosary economy (granted this isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be), unrewarding exploration, and enemies doing two masks of damage to name a few. The NPCs and soundtrack also aren't as memorable and so much of it is indebted to Hollow Knight that not a lot of the game feels as fresh as Hollow Knight.

It's a great game and the fact that a game of this scope was made by 3 people and released for $20 should be commended, but Hollow Knight is always going to be the better experience.

>>720705771
I'm under the impression that the game was deliberately padded out in various ways to justify the longer dev time. Like they made the game more difficult than the first because otherwise people would finish it in 15 hours and they were embarrassed about that.

>>720705714
Every environmental hazard should do 2 damage minimum. Magma Bell should be removed

>>720705882
I honestly think if I had just put more time into dodging and learning the moveset of the boss before actually engaging I probably could've beat most bosses a lot more easily but for some reason I just want to ungabunga facetank and get my ass kicked 100 times and learn the boss patterns as an adjacent thing I have no idea why I do this

>>720705882
Most people seem to agree that Silksong is more difficult than the original

>>720705714
The game should not have shards as a mechanic. If that makes tools too powerful, tone down their damage.

>>720705735
Yeah silkslog is definitely lacking in soul department, but one moment that still stands out in my mind was pic related
They really needed more of "OH SHIT WTF" moments like this

>>720705891
Hollow Knight has ~15 named areas. Silksong has 28. Not saying I don't think the game has some really dumb padding, but the game definitely feels much bigger than Hollow Knight.

>>720705608
I was surprised by how non-bullshit that level was, the time pressure was tight but otherwise it's pretty chill. BTW does the mask maker do anything?

>>720705980
>TFW there's nothing as soulful as pic related in Silksong

>>720696817
>People complaining about this don't even know about Karnak/Mt. Fay/High Halls
I have bad news...

>>720705412
sole town that updates all game with NPCs going to it; bone bottom has like, 1 real npc

>>720706018
Karnak and High Halls were fine but Mt. Fay made me want to break my fucking controller

>>720705714
They should've gave you architect crest and more tools sooner.

>>720705965
Going back to playing hollow knight after beating silk song felt like playing in slow motion, everything feels very easy

I don't know if I just got better at the game, but from memory Silksong and HK have inverse difficulty curves
Silksong gets gradually easier as the game continues after huge early spikes like Last Judge and Savage Beastfly (especially Beastfly 2), while I distinctly recall HK's endgame bosses like Broken Vessel being serious pains in the ass

I got to the choral core and I am so done I just can't do it anymore
team cherry thinkin its funny as fuck to slap some white palace in the mid game
there was a big round enemy in there that spat out projectiles and even the PROJECTILES did two mask damage, its a fucking joke
I cant

>>720705714
LESS FUCKING GAUNTLETS. There's should've been only one massive one, like the Colosseum of fools, in the citadel. Why are there so many gauntlets??

>>720705714
The majority of the bosses doing 2 mask damage is a good design decision and exposes the shitters

>>720706013
All of his interactions are soul. My boy just wants to ride.

>>720706120
This but unironically.

>>720706068
It was very forgiving all things considered. It should be made harder by removing the bench in this anon's opinion

>>720696817
>Decided that I was going to one shot Last Judge this playthrough, no stupid mistakes
>Get to Sinner's Road and do the quest for the Tacks
>Throw on Wanderer
Yup, easy. God this boss is actually pathetic when I know how to properly space with Hornet now. Tacks ended up killing it as it was sliding around. Man I wish I didn't spend four hours on it the first time around.

>>720705243
I did but I picked it back up because reaper is too slow for later bosses and the dive kick is actually useful in boss fights

>>720705714
getting the 'bad' ending is too easy and getting to act 3 is too tedious

>>720702125
get the nail polished if you didn't

>>720706109
Holy shit this. Fighting the same 5 waves of enemies before the boss is not fun, it's fucking boring. Especially when I've already lazily fought through them 20 goddamn times already trying to kill the goddamn boss.

>>720705926
silksong was very lacking in super atmospheric benches in my opinion. this one in pic was the best bench in the game prove me wrong

>>720696817
I actually think this runback sucks because once you get it down it's braindead. It turns into a loading screen.

>>720706097
right? watch the Lace 2 fight in this speedrun. it looks sped up. starts around 1:08:20 >>720703259

>>720705714
Aside from like 2, Arena Battles aren't bad or even hard.
Mount Fey was kino

>>720705803
I beat her second attempt and it was my favorite boss in the game. Bosses with clearly telegraphed but difficult to actually dodge attacks are infinitely more fun than bosses that hit you more because their attacks are unpredictable BS that you have to see a bunch before you understand it at which point they become easy to dodge. A test of skill right away from your first attempt vs spend 3 attempts to learn how to dodge some bullshit that then becomes simple once you know.

>>720706183
this, or have a shortcut like in Crust King to skip (ideally) all of them

>>720705714
>bead economy is trash
>same thing this guy >>720705978 said
>everything dealing two damage feels like a crutch for undercooked movesets
>Hornet's moveset may have more variety overall but in terms of what you can actually have on you at a time the Knight's is better
>the map is unironically too large and the game drags on for longer than it should
>Lace is a meh rival, you barely encounter her throughout the game and I didn't give a single shit about her ever

>>720705926
It feels like there were pretty much zero of these atmospheric scenes while sitting in the sequel
>>720696817
At the start you don't actually have to wait for the flying enemy at all, just do a running jump and dash so you don't hit him on the way up

>trap bench
Simply epic.

>>720704431
I mean, you get to give Hornet a gatling gun. It's... Not a very GOOD gatling gun, but it's there.

>>720706278
But what if...second trap bench?
And what if...THIRD trap bench?

Where is the Sherma porn?
I demand porn of Sherma being molested by Hornet in the citadel hot spring just like all those oriental arousing comics.

>>720706142
I wasn't being ironic, Anon

>>720706193
half the benches were exactly the same design with the three bells you had to pay the toll to open, was part of the problem.

>>720705978
>>720706082
>>720706109
>>720706257
>hot takes
>posts extremely common reddit takes

There is really no justification for this shitty shard system for subweapons
Your uses are already highly limited by being only refillable at a bench (not counting that one crest), requiring an ammo source just adds pointless grind for players who take more than a couple of attempts for an encounter/boss.
Couple that with the fact that enemies drop a paltry amount, and many shards even from mining spots just fall into oblivion and there is no magnet badge for them...its simply an anti-fun system, not an extra level of challenge.
It's like they wanted to make a Castlevania-esque system but went full retard on trying to differentiate it

>>720706193
you're right. nothing in Silksong comes close to the Quirrel City of Tears bench

>>720706068
>Mt. Fay made me want to break my fucking controller
You ain't seen nothing yet.

>>720706365
that's a very good point

>>720705714
Crests needed an overhaul
Tools are too strong and giving them costs was stupid
Act 1 exploration felt like ass
The map system kind of sucks
>You dont map where you have been until you find the map
>The map spoils a ton of the exploration
>They start just giving you the map in the first room of the citadel areas towards the end for some reason
>Also compass
The Souls NPC questlines are awful there and they are awful here too.
Mandatory platforming was honestly harder than normalfags are going to stomach

>>720706193
The best bench is the bench at Mount Fay with Shakra. Peak warmth comfy.

This ain't it.
Act 3 should have been more game not a gay ass reused everything coda. They had 6 years.

>>720706439
I really like the temporary bench where she guards you in greymoor, that was probably my favorite

>>720706315
I found Sherma with small boobs and a huge ass

>>720705714
They never should have nerfed the game.
Enemies doing two hp damage is nothing because you heal for three.

>>720706367
I don’t go on reddit, retard. But since you do, you must go back.

>>720706269
SOVL

>>720706461
>Anons were actually in these very threads a week ago claiming Act 3 pulled an inverted castle
I honestly expected so much more, fucking liars.

>>720705714
Green Prince ending makes absolutely no fucking sense. Why did we murder GP for no reason? Why is he the sole source of a non-questline heart? Why even bother spending the dev time on Verdania? Even narratively, it only exists to tell us the Choral bugs were assholes to good people which we already know.

>>720705965
>>720705935

Thank you, will definitely give it a go on-sale then.
Maybe I'll actually enjoy the game-aspect this go around, worst case scenario Team Cherry's art assets are just divine.

Just hope they don't do it like last time/Axiom Verge where every new place you need to go to is on the periphery of the map, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Can someone explain me what I'm supposed to do in the Passing of the Age quest?

>>720706372
they should at least have given no/bigger cap or a way to store them like rosaries, it's stupid to spend 90% of the game with them at 100% and then you get stuck on a boss and suddenly you've run dry

>>720706519
>Why did we murder GP for no reason?
he's gay

>>720705735
>>720705926
>>720705980
I don't think it's as soulful or comfy but when you're fighting The Bell Eater and your loyal steed comes through and saves the day and she has a bunch of her babies in tow with her I really, really loved that moment, one of the highlights of the game for me especially because I was worried that she had been killed or maybe even hideously transformed into the boss we were fighting.

>>720706519
He wanted to be with his lover.

>>720706372
Yeah either get rid of shards entirely, or make it so you buy red tools with them, and maybe when you use Architect.

I dropped this game after 2 hours

So the true ending of silksong is them getting married right

>>720706193
And there isn't a track as comfy as this in the entire game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3Dd3eqZy8
I do like how the bellway theme gets a little fucked up once you get into Act III though.

>>720705714
The game would have been vastly improved if it either explicitly or subtly told the player to stop wasting time going back to Bone Bottom and Bellhart because the fact that on a first playthrough you keep backtracking since you're treating them like Dirtmouth buttfucks the pacing
You add a "new bounty board quest" icon to the Bellway UI and this game becomes immediately and significantly better

>>720706602
did Bell Eater eat the father

>>720706667
your mom did the same with you

>>720706372
>mining spots just fall into oblivion
it really feels like the physics on shards from breaking those fossil rocks is wrong. They all shoot off at mach fuck into the spike pit you just jumped past to reach them, only one or two bits surviving.

>>720706602
Thought that whole sequence was so saccharine it was straight out of a 90s kids movie.

[HOT TAKE] Every enemy should do 3 damage and steel soul should be the only mode available. Also, quitting should be disabled if you're not sitting on a bench and using Alt+F4 should delete your save file.

>>720706530
Visit the locations in order hinted at in the poem and play the needolin. The last one is a doozy.

>>720705714
The game length was padded out for some reason.
Evidence:
>fetch quests. collect X of Y. especially the bells one
>long runbacks for hard bosses, as everyone complains about
>overly difficult early game almost entirely attributable to enemies doing 2 damage instead of 1
>requiring rosaries for benches
>oddly short act 1 and 2 narrative
>act 3 asset re-use IDK I haven't played this part yet
>bestiary requirements
it's not an issue since the game is only $20 but it's odd to me that they made these decisions given that the map is definitely bigger than HK's and there seem to be more bosses.

>>720706690
Wrong because you have to do all the quests and Bellhart is direct to needle upgrading.

>>720706685
Ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBlPiGByuWs

>>720706723
Not every NPC needs a horrible bad end.

Just got the Architect crest and I really wish I could like this more but that down attack is so fucking bad. What is that range?

>>720705714
Groal was a good boss
there should have been more than 2 fake benches
all of the down air attacks should be diagonal, git gud
about half of the bosses have too little health, or they don't scale well with nail upgrades
and there should be at least a few more hard run-backs, Groal was the only one that was remotely difficult

>>720706294
Reminder that they considered doing this in dark souls but thought this was too mean

>>720706797
>People will fall for this

>>720706753
Unless you're playing guide in hand you are visiting both towns far, far more often than they update
The game is better if you don't bother with them, just progress the game, then go back after long periods of absence and just do the quests as batches. There's almost no NPC progression in the towns, if any, so doing this only improves the game.

>>720706436
>Act 1 exploration felt like ass
Hard disagree there

>>720706461
I would have been amazing if they had done and inverted castle style map for act 3....but that would actually require competent planning and design

>>720696074 (OP)
whats a good spot to farm in act 3

>>720706826
I'm the only one with the hot takes here as far as I can tell

People say the ost isn’t memorable but honestly if I heard a track in some random youtube video I would probably recognize it. Thing is, it won’t bring me comfiness, just memories of suffering

>>720706710
I think they did it on purpose. You get an abundance of shards and you don't even need rosarios because you can just farm them.

>>720706856
retard takes*

>>720706848
Once you clear out the initial wave of hard-scripted infected enemies, they turn to normal and only like one in five gets the tard strength buff, Citadel should be fine like normal.

Finally finished the mr mushroom side quest. Fuck that final platforming section.

>Buy flea locations
>There's 8+ of them in random zones across the map that are probably fake floors in dark rooms
Fucking christ.

>>720706796
You can charge it up for more range. But it is pretty awkward to use even if you're used to hunter.

>>720706830
I think you misremember how much of act 1s exploration was fucking anal beads.
Like look at the amount of mask/spool shards you find in act 1 compared to 2.

They needed to not put so much shit in shops and replace all the hidden walls with nothing but beads behind them with some of the vendors items

>>720702125
you can't punish all his attacks, get that through your head. on second phase, try dodging everything and only punishing the ground slam

>>720705980
I feel like they thought they were making the game too dark with all the citadel shit and rolled everything else back. Even the funeral after this turns into a meme cause they don’t even know the bugs name and the just chuck the body down the pit

>>720706910
Last silk heart is in Whiteward.

>>720706690
>Greetings, traveler! there are new missions available at the Bone Bottom bounty board
jokes aside the minimal UI for muh immersion is too much at times, sometimes it's better to just have more QoL features. I have 4-5 of those fast travel tubes unlocked and still no pins for them, I just requested Shakra that feature and now I've got to find her again who knows where to buy them

>>720706104
the difficulty in both felt pretty similar to me, I think the big difference is that hornet's moveset is less intuitive so there's more time spent learning how to control your character at the start

>>720706680
The REAL true ending is HK plapping Lace while Hornet watches like the perverted flea

>>720706987
did you play through the Godhome DLC? might color your impression of HK a bit

>>720704575
>>"B-b-but Act 3 isn't required to beat the ga-"
I did it guys, I beat symphony of the night
Odd decision not putting dracula in a castlevania game, but whatever

>>720705714
shard nodes should be turbo buffed
>find secret passage
>reward: shard node with 13 shards
FUCK OFF
also, anal beads as lootables is stupid too since enemies drop infinitely more

>>720706667
Ok.

>>720706740
>requiring rosaries for benches
It’s thematic. The citadel is a scam religion that exploits everyone so you only get to rest when you earn enough good boy points

>>720705714
The game leans too much into combat that they forget to set the stage for it. Nothing so far has made me want to sit down on the bench and enjoy the sound and scenery like the City of Tears.

>finished Mister Mushroom quest
That final challenge is a disgrace unfit to be called PoP of Silksong.
Sure it's hard, but it's boring as fuck, all you do is claw line-double jump-wall jump-repeat, with few straight vertical pogo section near the end, unlike Path of Pain (or even White Palace) which has way more variety of platforming challenges.
Cogwork Core is way more fun than this shit, they should make harder version of that.

>>720706967
I never had to look for her. Pretty sure she's always at bellhome or bone bottom unless you've started her quest.

>>720703302
in summary, all of /v/ hates silksong

>>720707046
the paid automatic confession machine in underworks was so funny.

>>720705714
While I do like act 3, it should of gone further with the destruction and let you actually miss items and events.
Once I realized it was just hard mode with a can of black spray paint over it, I became slightly disillusioned to their goal of showing how fucked up the world became. Let (more) wings of the citadel be collapsed and ruined, let rooms in the magma zones become entirely flooded and destroyed with lava, have rooms be flooded with void geysers, just something more then background changes and void tendrils.

>>720706797
Groal is unironically a good boss, people's tastes are soured by everything surrounding him.

>>720706120
all of them are very reliable to dodge and it's easier to heal than in HK so it makes perfect sense to me, I was shocked to find out people were complaining about moorwing since it's so easy to consistently dodge all of his attacks once you know what he does

>>720704814
I'm using flea brew on Warden or Boomerang and Shardtrap on Reaper. Just tried about 6 times before bed and felt like the magmabell is helping but I'm still losing my shit.

I had no idea there was a phase 2.5 where her explosion spin is extra stupid. That was my closest run and I only drank two brews so felt like I nearly had her.

I'm going to sleep to compile my 60 losses in my subconscious databank; maybe no-hit defeat her in the morning. Good night.

>>720706875
Recognizable doesn't mean memorable

>>720706994
Why not KH plapping Hornet while Lace watches?

>>720707046
>>720707090
>Getting to Underworks and realizing the ridiculous rosary payments for the entire game were in-universe ultra grift

>>720706848
Same spot as in act 2 but rest at the memorium bench and only kill the one guy, then reset. Use cogflys with the venom thingy.
>>720705714
Enemies have a little too much health, before you get like 2 nail upgrades even lowly pilgrims take like 4 hits. Kinda just slows down exploration, don't get me started on those flying bell throwing niggers that fly away from you. While I'm on it, flying enemies are just fucking annoying it's either use a tool or chase them down for 3 minutes.

Like everyone else said shards are fucking stupid.

The crest system is cool but what the fuck is this balancing. Evolved hunter blows everything out of the water. Reaper is kinda shit it's too slow, witch would be good but the healing sucks, shaman just feels bad to use and wanderer is the only one that is even close to hunter. Architect just feels bad too the multi hit stuff is cool but it doesn't lean into it enough to justify those shitty limpdick stabs.. Not even gonna touch on the weird decisions with their trinket/tool slots.

Also Fleas >>>>>>>>>>>Power gap>>>>>> Grubs.

Don't be a nigger and bitch at me over reddit spacing.

do I have to beat the Beastfly in Hunter's March before I can get the quest for it?

>>720706910
>Mfw when I randomly did this before doing the Mr. Mushroom quest
Thank fucking god it opens a shortcut to the top>>720706913

>>720707075
>Pretty sure she's always at bellhome or bone bottom
does she move between the two?
Last I saw her was in mount Fay and I didn't see her in Bellhart

>>720702943
>PENIS ON ME
What did he (yes, HE) mean by this?

>>720705882
silksong gets much more challenging much faster, I was able to breeze through the majority of HK and silksong was giving me a challenge a few hours in

>>720706913
I guarantee one is in an entire area you havent discovered yet with an infuriating boss

Stag > Bell Beast
Grubs > Fleas
Cornifer > Shakra
Breeta > Sherma
Zote > Garmond

>>720706104
HK forces you to get double jump and there's the invulnerability dash

>>720707227
>Stag > Bell Beast
Hard disagree

what is up with that big ass bug in memoriam that doesn't even respawn

>>720706194
More like a carple tunnel torture device for me. I've had to do that run more times than the boss now because I take a hit on the starting drillbee with short ass Wanderer slashes. Fucking hate that bitch, reaper makes it die in two hits (hook and then bounce into worms).

>>720706875
There's the cog song, that's something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8wGcWeXwg

I don't know, I feel that both Hollow Knights have a really weak soundtrack by any metric.

wh-where does Hornet keep all the rosaries, bros...?

>>720707267
he's a big guy

>>720707025
the idea of having to refight the filler bosses to get to the cool stuff was too much for me. If you're counting that I can see where you're coming from but I've always considered it more of a side thing than part of the central difficulty curve

>>720707170
In the place she sets up there should be a chakram on a stick that you have to hit first to summon her. She moves permanently to bellhart at some point although I'm not sure if it's tied to act progression.

>>720707285
up her ass there anal beads

>>720706875
The ost isn't memorable, but shakra and sherma are going to be stuck in my head for years

>>720707285
Overdone anal bead joke.

>>720707170
she leaves a ring post at the place she's currently camped at, hit it.

>>720707312
This

>>720696817
>reaper
you beat the game

>>720707227
Nothing is greater than Sherma.

>>720707268
>Starting drillbee
Sprint jump off the first platform, keep holding sprint, you will land on the drillbee platform still sprinting. You can sprintjump again, getting you past the drillbee before it even spawns.
You don't ever have to actually fight the drillbee.

>>720707285
In her mouth.

>>720707307
Adding that to the "Silksong is a porn game without the porn" pile

Am I supposed to be playing the nail song on everything, every enemy and npc, so I don't miss out on anything? I already know it opens the weavernest doors

Does Bellhart feel more like an actual town later on? I was expecting more after restoring it and the people there.

Does the game keep a death counter in some text file somewhere?

>>720707303
>>720707326
goddamn I never noticed, thanks lads

>>720707373
HOLY SILK MOTHER OF BASED

>>720707375
In the fog area.
Otherwise it's just lore.

>>720707268
You can consistently run past it. Do a short running jump and dash so that it doesn't hit you on its way down, you'll catch the ledge just fine. I never had to deal with that guy

>>720707380
Not really, unfortunately

>>720707334
It's funny to me how in the first few days everyone was talking about how reaper was the best and trivialized everything. But now you hardly see people mention it.

>>720707227
zote > garmond is an easy agree, I kind of prefer cornifer over shakra but shakra has more presence, I agree with grubs > fleas in terms of how they're implemented but fleas are more fun

>>720707380
No.

>>720707179
He's hung.

>>720707448
Everyone realized that the extra range wasn't worth the slow ass attack speed. Also the hitboxes are not wide at all so it fucking sucks for upward slashing.

>>720707112
I use spike trap and throwing knives. I killed her from range with them. Also, you may want to stay away from her when she dies

>>720707380
it's heavily implied basically everyone besides the npcs you see at the start died somehow so it stays pretty sparse, more people show up with progress though

>>720707353
Ive successfully pulled that off one time and the problem isn't that I'm not sprinting on landing its that if you jump too high to get to that platform he shows to right as you arrive. Only way I can run past him is to sprint off the first playform into a float and then sprint jump off second. That one is way harder because if you hit jump too early you don't deploy the chute and instead jump into him.

>>720707380
I would have much rather they cut the bellhome entirely and replace it with another npc and changed the unlocks to town decor as you progress

>>720696817
>>720706194
Speaking of braindead runbacks that shouldn't be in the game, here's one that's nearly a minute long.

>>720707269
Clock towers have to have kino music, its in the rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYyH0XFahw&list=RDdKYyH0XFahw&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ1Pk8HBYJU&list=RDfZ1Pk8HBYJU&start_radio=1

>>720705714
The game should have had one town you build up over the course of act 1 and 2 until it serves as a contrast to the corruption of the citadel and the bugs choose to stay in bonebottom. And then the player would actually care when it gets destroyed in act 3.
Currently you build a bridge and a statue and then it gets smashed by skull tyrant and then you're expected to destroy your own new bridge to see the funeral scene. I don't know what the messaging was here.

>>720707458
I like the individual grubs more than fleas. But the flea caravan is an enormous improvement over the grubfather and his cave of grubs.

>>720707554
uploaded this time :^)

>>720707380
No. Which is weird because there are ~8 NPCs in the area (2 dudes on the floor, 2 dudes in the shops, 2 couriers, flying guy who comes in and out, and Shakra). I think the issue is that you don't see them near each other so the place doesn't look like a bustling little town.

>>720701123
>this nigga played the whole game without fractured mask

>>720707593
>poison tools
you didn't beat the game

>>720707524
With or without poison? If I take blues into the fight its either extended bind plus mask or now magma bell.

What's fucking hilarious is I've tried this for maybe 6 runs and got worse progress then going brew drunk as Wanderer.

>>720707517
I think a lot of people just hadn't found wanderer yet. A big thing that people shilled reaper for was its pogo as an alternative to hunter. But wanderer's is even easier to use.
And people have also gotten used to the hunter pogo.

>>720701229
Awakening the sentinal is required for act 3, so no, songclave would not be dead

>>720707636
actually I fucking obliterated the game with my wits and cunning

Where is the last lube for my weapon?

>>720707593
Funny how nobody complains about this runback because there's no actual route optimizing to do, and the path you do take can safely avoid the enemies. People only complain about Last Judge's runback because they think engaging with specific enemies is somehow necessary.

>>720707593
Use the bench on the right side of Sands of Karak and just spam your hookshot and glide moves to skip the platforming area to the left of it.

>>720707517
>Also the hitboxes are not wide at all so it fucking sucks for upward slashing.
yeah this one's really annoying. The pogo and the knockback are great but I should really move on to evolved hunter since it's been sitting in my inventory for a while (also the pogo almost feels like cheating on a lot of the platforming)

>>720697419
Sidequest calls him a he.

>>720707636
>a SPIDER named HORNET isn't allowed to use venomous pointy objects
Yeah ok retard

>>720707593
>Poison tools

>>720707679
right here
*unzips*

>>720707576
>destroy your own new bridge to see the funeral scene
Anon, you can go around.

>>720707680
>because they think engaging with specific enemies is somehow necessary
This. And it doesn't help that the conchflies have aimbot

>>720707680
with the dash you unlock early in you can get past basically any enemy with ease

>>720707679
Act 3, find all fleas and then do their wish in fleatopia

I'm not listening to you didn't beat the game fags until they post no damage runs or kill lategame shit unupgraded.

>>720706875
I almost like the OST for this game more than HK's desu

>>720705061
Hmm I just pogo on things lol

>>720707593
I have not been to this area yet.

>>720707790
You'll love it!

>>720700787

HOLY KINO

>>720696074 (OP)
She's a loli.

>>720701470
You mean for the mount fay dude?
>bellhart > greymoor first windmill > wisp thicket > across underworks > up through theater > across the lower choral chamber > into hotspring > up and across into slab > down to mount fay > up mount fay > try not to fucking kill yourself when an abyss'd niggermob hits you for 2 damage after you mistime a hookshot and take a hit on a normal floater guy > do it all again

>>720707269
yeah to be honest while I think Larkin does have a few excellent tracks a lot of his music isn't the kind to get stuck in my head after listening.

>>720707735
Thanks, I just bothered to find the pinmaster after getting the three hearts

>>720707680
a runback with no hazards is worse than a difficult one because then it really becomes just padding

>>720707227
literally all of those fill different narrative niches you stupid fucking frog nigger, you cant compare them. its like comparing apples to fucking pancakes.
>stag
potential last of its kind, simply doing the only thing it knows and likes.
>bell beast
loyal companion saved from a curse
>grubs and fleas
your one point, but even then they come across way differently. also fleas are objectively better fuck you
>cornifer
old mapper simply charting out hallownest
>shakra
an apprentice chasing her mentor throughout the land
>breeta
fangirl archetype
>sherma
innocent devout in a terrible, terrible land.
>zote
extremely pathetic rival character
>garmond
old and cheerful knight seeking revenge against a foe far beyond him.

>>720707861
BTFO

>>720707582
After grubfather I really thought that the caravan was going to be a doomsday cult of some kind because of all the festival talk.

>>720708002
They even sing about a ritual if you play the needolin.

>>720707576
>destroying the bridge
Anon... They drop the guy even if you got the bridge. You did go down there and play a song for the fallen to get his Citadel text too, right?

>>720708002
Playing the pre-boss ambience when you approach the flea master to start the festival was pretty funny
Grubfather really traumatized us all

>>720707448
I still use reaper just because it's the best getting around crest and I'm too lazy to switch off for bosses. Not going to deny if you want dps, use architect until you run out of shards then use wanderer.

>>720708272
The part where they have you fight the giant flea without knowing whether or not hornet was going to actually kill it was also pretty funny in retrospect.

>>720706493
In Hollow Knight if an enemy did two damage you could heal those two specifically and still have enough Soul for a spell
In Silksong, you have to use a whole Spool, 9 hits worth to heal 6 hits worth of damage and if you have few spools, then you're plum put of Silk

>>720708438
Get better.

>>720708272
I was extra scared shitless because the room before it left me at 1 hp lmao

>>720708495
>want to enjoy shaman crest
>too shitty at dodging
>use all thread for heals, none left over for spells
Needle spam wanderer with poison cogflies it is then

>>720707517
I definitely noticed how shit the hitboxes are while trying to pogo certain bosses with Reaper. You can see the hits entering where the hitboxes are but it passes right through and you eat shit.

>>720706193
Hanging with the girl at Blasted Steps was comfy since she'd cycle through animations

>>720708567
Use weaverlight, and rely on the freebie regen silk for spells

>wait to play game for 6 years
>do everything i wanted to do in 2 weeks
They're not even going to make another hollowknight are they? They're doing some gay furry thing. DLC when

The flea minigames are genuinely the most challenging thing in the game

>>720708753
Who?

>>720707593
>conchfly
>runback

>>720708567
>Weavelight + Pale Nail + Wispfire Lantern
auto aim dodge bitch build.

Does Multibinder clear maggots AND heal you?

>>720708809
only flea juggle desu.

>>720708809
Anon gave me a tip to stay on the ground for flea juggle in the last thread and it worked really well. Managed to beat it

>>720709126
no

>>720707285
She swallows them in little baggies like a Colombian drug mule.

>>720707373
Fucking lel

>>720709137
Flea Bounce is hard too. I had to switch to Wanderer because it's the HK moveset that I spent 300 hours practicing in Godhome and White Palace. Hunter isn't intuitive for me yet despite using it all game.

>>720707373
that chink is alright

>>720709421
I got 95 on flea bounce first try but using witch's crest which has a long default length and some auto aim so I guess it doesn't really count

Can you fight the big ass monster at Pilgrim's rest in act 1/2 or am I fucked since I am in act 3?

>>720710119
its dead

>>720710119
it's just the rhinoceros beetle you saw in the memorium

>>720710119
its rhino beetle but dont hit the lever or it escapes and i think you need to kill 2 for the beastiary

>>720710347
there's another one in far fields available after silk soar

>>720710347
Is there never another one other than the one in memorium?