Thread 720704250

Is this guy right, /v/?
Is there no good reason to buy a console instead of a PC?
I have good memories with my Xbox 360 and One, but PC seems to be much better and I'm interested in more than just gaming. I want to watch movies, and maybe write and-- Who knows?-- maybe even code.
I'm very interested in retro gaming and old games, and indies, and mods and piracy, so I guess this is not a debate at all. PC really is the superior choice for me.

I get that keyboard and mouse is not exclusive to PC anymore, even if lack of gyro for Xbox is a big flaw.
Consoles don't have to be built, unlike PCs which are more complex but this is only a problem at first. I can learn to build it myself with a bit of time and effort.
Normally consoles are cheaper but the Xbox SeX got more expensive. I skipped the current gen, the gen that feels the best for Xbox, in the hope that with time the Series X would actually get cheaper. I love the aesthetics of the Series X as much as Game Pass and its hardware. But it really seems I am getting converted to PC gaming.

Is there a way for me to buy an old but functioning (maybe already built) PC to play old games, and then to update it as I go and I am more interested in newer titles?
I did buy a cheap PC from Amazon a few years ago and I did play on it but it did not run most games, and it even broke because I cannot run windows anymore with it, it gives me error and I don't know how to fix it. Still on Amazon I saw a gaming PC case at a good price, but I'm not sure it's a reliable product.
Where can I get PC parts at a cheap price, old parts are perfectly fine as long as they are functional.

>>720704250 (OP)
Bumping this thread while sharing the screens my broke PC shows when I turn it on. Maybe someone knows what the fuck is going on.

>>720705189
Did you try to reinstall windows? Did you try to replace your storage disk with a new one?
Yes he is right but you admit he is in your own post so I'm not sure why you asked

>>720705189
My phone is fucking retarded when it takes pics

>>720704250 (OP)
>Is this guy
it's a random homosexual incel that is shitposting on the tranime gay board and you are reposting his larp, no he is NOT right.
>Is there no good reason to buy a console instead of a PC?
there are multiple good reasons, it depends on what you are looking for, if you are just some wagie that wants to play cod or whatever latest AAA game and you just need your shit to run at the press of a button and not shill out many shekels then consoles are still great for that
>want to watch movies, and maybe write and-- Who knows?-- maybe even code
any used laptop will do, most people have a consoles and a pc of some sort for other tasks/work too
>I'm very interested in retro gaming and old games,
any 20 year old laptop can emulate up to ps2, that shit got thousands of games you will never run out of mediocre trash to play

anon whatever you do just don't become a retarded soar grapes vegan spewing venom at others who might not think like you (because being unable to process alternative points of view is a sign of autism)

>>720704250 (OP)
It's really just a matter of budget, if you're willing to shell out more money for a PC then go for it, but consoles have always been the cheaper options but at a cost of performance, visual fidelity and customization. Considering most console exclusives with the exception of nintendo games get PC ports eventually if you're patient you can play most console exclusives, even nintendo games whenever emulation is figured out. but it's a matter of if you want to wait for those titles, or in the case of a multiplayer exclusive, play them with that multiplayer functionality. I personally don't see any point to buying any console outside of whatever nintendo has on offer, but even then I still haven't and probably won't get a switch 2 until something comes out I know I will be playing online, like a new animal crossing. I do own a bunch of older consoles for the sake of playing games on my CRT, but I've modded or gotten flashcarts for them so I can play all their games without needing to pay an arm and a leg for physical copies.

>>720705325
>Did you try to reinstall windows?
I don't know how.
>Did you try to replace your storage disk with a new one?
I don't know how, I guess I first have to buy a new storage disc. Either way, this pc is very shitty so it's better to buy a new case with hardware. I keep only the monitor, keyboard and misuse.
>Yes he is right but you admit he is in your own post so I'm not sure why you asked
To listen to more opinions and to find out where to buy the best pc at the best price.

>>720704250 (OP)
No, anon is completely wrong. First of all, PC is prohibitively expensive.

Second, is that PC deals with hackers/cheaters, etc in multiplayer games, which ruins the point.

PC is also locked out of early access to things like Death Stranding 2, GTA 6, etc.

>>720704250 (OP)
>Is this guy right, /v/?
More or less. With the decline of console exclusives and growing crossplay, there isn't a great reason to own most modern consoles past that era.

>Is there a way for me to buy an old but functioning (maybe already built) PC to play old games, and then to update it as I go and I am more interested in newer titles?
Buying a prebuilt gaming computer with older components and upgrading the specs over the years isn't too unreasonable an ask. The biggest weak point would probably be an older CPU socket limiting your available upgrades later down the line, but even that's just getting a new motherboard to go with the new CPU. Make sure whatever GPU you get as well isn't a real potato either like a XX50 or XX60. I'd also recommend a medium to large tower with good airflow for more futureproofing with how big GPUs have gotten.

>I cannot run windows anymore with it, it gives me error and I don't know how to fix it.
You should do some homework and see what building them is like, so you can fix them yourself when things go wrong. Being patient and using google is enough for 99% of problems. Go lurk /pcbg/ on /g/ and watch some Youtube build videos and part reviews weekly
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
Sites like PCPartpicker also let you plan builds out and usually screech if there's an incompatibility
https://pcpartpicker.com/

Black Friday in a few months will have some decent part sales on most popular sites like Amazon or Newegg

>>720705189
Can't boot/see a working Windows install, you gotta google this shit and learn to fix it lil nigga.

Take out any weird flash drives or other storage media/cd/dvds that are in it, and if that doesn't work, turn everything off, unplug it, open it, ground yourself so you don't zap the motherboard with either an anti-static wristband or by touching the interior metal of the computer case often, and double check your cable connections to and from the hard drive/ssd that has the install.

>>720705362
Weirdly butthurt and feminine post. PCs have way better value and OP recognizes that so why lecture him about normalfag console use cases while posting an image sharing your preconceived disdain for PClards? Go take a hot shower nigga.

Just wait for the nextgen xbox

>>720704250 (OP)
>Is this guy right, /v/?
Yes.

>>720704250 (OP)
>Is there no good reason to buy a console instead of a PC?
Pretty much, yeah.

>>720704250 (OP)
Yes
>>720705189
lol my refurbed old HP workstation that I use for a game server always cries about thermal sensors not being programmed on boot and it tells me to hit enter to ignore it

>>720705461
Retarded post. OP don't listen to neurotic consolefriends ITT who feel subtly insulted 24/7. You could buy a $300 mini PC on Amazon and have all the things you've been (rightfully) fantasizing about and recognizing as value exclusive to the freedom and openness of a PC at your fingertips.
>>720705447
If you need Windows borrow a friend's laptop and get an ISO from massgrave.dev then flash it with rufus, then use microsoft activation scripts to validate
This shit is actually really simple you just gotta knock your head against a wall until you understand it through experience

>>720705586
>vegan reply
anyway, let's unpack your larp
> feminine post.
projecting troon
>PCs have way better value
maybe for you, value for what? if you VALUE your time consoles are still miles ahead
the whole thread is not about video games it's some retard using it as helpdesk, can't get more ironic "pc gaming" than this
wake up retard
>OP recognizes
he just reposting the larp of someone else
>why lecture him
just pointing out basic facts
>sharing your preconceived disdain
it's a meme anon, you can post an image shitting on console players too
all I'm saying is that it's people who look like those fat disgusting fags on that image who would get anal about platform wars in 2025
I don't care what you pick I already made my choice, I just contribute if I know something, nowere in my post do I shit on pc specifically so stop kvetching and making shit up, nvidia doesn't pay you dividends to white knight for them online
>PClards
hey listen you said it first nigga
>hot shower
I prefer them cold tbqhwy (to be quite honest with you)

>>720705870
So can a 300 dollar mini PC run multiplayer games at 120fps and play GTA 6 on release? Does it also come with a fully haptic controller as well?

>>720705870
> You could buy a $300 mini PC on Amazon and have all the things you've been (rightfully) fantasizing about and recognizing as value exclusive to the freedom and openness of a PC at your fingertips.
not in my third world country, the best i can get is laptop with 4gb ram and 200gb of space

>>720705879
I'm not reading this shit lol, log off homo
>>720705916
Wow yeah if he can't play GTA6 at 120fps what's the point? You're so right bro my bad

>>720705968
I accept your concession vegatroon

>>720705968
A 300 dollar pc is trash level in this day and age

>>720704250 (OP)
>can't afford Xbox AND a PC
lol. lmao

>>720705990
I'm gong to pray to Jesus for you

>>720706086
You can do whatever the fuck you want.

Is picrel good?

How do you play this game without a console?

>>720705870
>could buy a $300 mini PC on Amazon
Like picrel?
My budget is around 300, which seems entirely reasonable to me because like I said I am mostly interested in older games.

>>720706305
or this...

>>720706072
I actually can but I don't like spending money this way, especially since I'm a neet and I'm not getting more money than I have. And nobody is calling me back from my employing demands.

>>720705870
>This shit is actually really simple you just gotta knock your head against a wall until you understand it through experience
Not even, I did that for my personal server for the first time and it was piss easy. You just have to follow instructions for 3 minutes, though I guess that's asking a lot from most of the zoomer troons on this site these days.

>if you value your time
lol saying this when console-only fags had to wait months to get a NoGaemsMachine5 from scalpers on ebay for $1500+ is hilarious. Just happened with the Switch 2 as well.
Bloodborne is fully emulated and playable on PC now, btw and the new Switch 2 is likely to be soon too since it's barely different in its fundamentals than the Switch. It's likely that some time next year at the latest that the whole catalog will be available to PCGODS yet again.

>>720706701
Bloodborne is a buggy mess and has no co op on pc. Pc also has to deal with hackers in multiplayer and it takes a 5090 to run games at 1080p/60fps in unreal engine.

>>720706701
>and the new Switch 2 is likely to be soon too since it's barely different in its fundamentals than the Switch.

>>720706442
I don't live in US and I envy your sales, just saw series s going for 250$

>INSTANT seethe and sour grapes
Sorry you can't experience Bloodborne and Switch games at the FPS they were meant to be played at.

>>720706701
>Switch 2 is likely to be soon too since it's barely different in its fundamentals than the Switch
How is a PCfag this fucking clueless about hardware?

>>720705879
Dilate tranny.

And another angered brand tribalist retard.

>>720706262
>4GB vram I'm assuming
>8GB RAM
>240GB
big yuck

>>720706329
>Vega 8
Yuck but still better than the first.
That one doesn't come with Windows preinstalled either, but you could do that yourself freely and crack it. I wouldn't recommend trying to use Linux as your OS if tech illiterate or you'll wanna rope pretty rapidly.

>>720705428
You'll be saving more money in the long run by pirating games, if you're into that.

>>720707231
I wouldn't recommend Linux for any productivity tasks outside of programming work.

>pc is shit
>buy a PS5
>every game runs in some retarded resolution like 536p before upscaling
>every game runs at 20 fps
>mfw i wasted 499 US dollars

>>720707231
>>Vega 8
>Yuck but still better than the first.
But is it good to play games until black ops 2 and fallout 4 with mods? And can I upgrade as time goes on?
If I have to install windows I have to use a disc? What windows is the best for gaming?

>>720704250 (OP)
Consoles are for people who don't really see video games as a hobby but rather something to waste time with until they get to do something they actually enjoy. Plug-and-play made for brainlets with absolutely no chance for user error.

Anyone who cries about 'abloobloo I can't reach 120fps' should be sat down and forced to play Bayonetta on PS3.

>>720707589
Fell for it again bro, better luck next time.

I bought a hp and had so many problems with running games, maybe it was the latest Windows version. It also had problems with the monitor when running games, picrel.

Thoughts on integrated GPUs for older games?

>>720704250 (OP)
If I bought a gaming PC it would sit right where my xbox sits hooked up to my TV with nothing but a controller, so I figured why go through the money and effort and I just got an Xbox instead.

>>720704250 (OP)
Meh. I missed my high school graduation because I was testing for my MCSE in 1997. I don't touch consoles.

The thing is not everyone wants to learn a PC. While the tail end of GenX and early millennials couldn't avoid learning PCs if they wanted to. Newer generations are all about their phones. Everything has an mobile app. No one NEEDS a PC and learning a PC is a really high difficulty curve just to play some video games. While anyone can install a game on Windows, you need a shit ton of knowledge to troubleshoot bugs, install mods that aren't dummy-proof, configure emulators for your hardware, and the list goes on and on.

For those people, they have consoles. And that's fine. As long as they're having fun. Most are well aware that they could be having a better time with more investment. Same as, for example, people that watch anime but don't know Japanese. But they don't WANT to learn Japanese so they just deal with a shittier experience. And, again, that's fine. No reason to be elitest.

>>720704250 (OP)
pc - covers the most bases for libraries, most notably pc's library itself
mister - usually better experience than when emulating old systems, especially better at old pc before graphics acceleration
ps2 - lots of exclusives, emulator STILL sucks (yes, nightlies, yes, september 2025)
ps3 - some exclusives, emulator is getting there
ps4 or 5 - few exclusives (5 has no exclusives but does 4 backwards compatibility and has less annoying fan), emulator is hardly there
vita - some exclusives, emulator is hardly there (can do psp backwards compatibility but ppsspp is better)
360 - some exclusives, emulator sucks

3ds optional for its screen, it's the best way to do virtualboy if you don't want to use vr goggles
some games are also better with stylus than mouse
i don't think xbox after 360 has any notable exclusives? their backwards compatible focused ecosystem might make something down the line better though

>>720705189
If your boot order is set correctly in the BIOS, then your hard drive is fucked. I'm just assuming you're not on some 90s computer and there's a floppy in the drive that the PC is trying to boot from. Either the hard drive itself, or the MBR. Most likely have to reformat and install windows from scratch and hope it works.

>>720710096
Mister shilling is out of control lately.

>>720709592
today it's pretty seamless in both amd and intel ecosystems
you might want to wait till 9000g is known, it's supposed to release q4 2025 but it's not yet known if it's a refresh or if it will use the same stuff in the ryzen ai laptop stuff (which is more powerful)

>>720710189
i've been using mister since 2020, it's good
you're just hearing more people talking about it cause it's not expensive anymore

>>720706329
>Linux OS
>in a premade, not customized
The hell? Are they trying to save money by not including Windows?

>>720704250 (OP)
No, get a Switch 2 OLED, and get a Steam Deck 2 in 2027 and don't bother with anything else.

>>720704250 (OP)
If you're OK with old classics and emulation then buy a modest spec PC and you're fine.
If you're into newer games you're probably a retard so buy a playstation or something so you wont have anyting decent to play anyway.