Thread 720708442

How cum borderlands 4 looks the same as borderlands 2 but runs 20 times worse?

you can write a single badly optimized mathematical function that will grind your computer to a halt

>>720708442 (OP)
>How cum borderlands 4 looks the same as borderlands 2 but runs 20 times worse?
indian UE5 "devs"

watch as they shortly flood this thread to assure you in broken turdworld english that 20fps is "plenty sir"

>>720708442 (OP)
who tf cares about these games anymore
theyve already made far too many

>>720708442 (OP)
Borderlands 4 doesn't even have physX so Borderlands 2 actually looks better

Why does this look like Xenoblade

>>720708442 (OP)
Borderlands 4 looks ten times better retard

>>720709496
looks worse than borderlands 2

>>720708442 (OP)
DUDE look at all that GRASS
It feels like I'm in a LIVING and BREATHING ECOSYSTEM with the ground covered in all this OBSTRUCTIVE CLUTTER

>>720709496
....Which one is borderland 4?

>>720709496
why is the cellshading on the trees 3x thicker than the ones on characters? what the fuck
that looks so retarded

>>720709496
the bottom unironically looks better

>>720709496
soulless
soul

>>720709496
which is 4? because the top one does look better, so if so I agree

>>720709496
You could convince me these were the same game

Cell shaded graphic ignore the majority of graphical improvement in the last ten years

>>720709656
I LOVE grass. Just throw this ugly visual noise everywhere, and make shit hard to see for no reason. I sure hope there aren't things on the ground I might need to pay attention to.

>>720709925
>>720709656
autism

>>720709981
Yeah, probably.
I just think grass looks like shit in games, and it annoys me whenever I see a new release that turns every grassy area into a verdant shag carpet. Borderlands has light pillars on drops, but any amount of visual obstruction makes me annoyed when it can potentially obstruct a drop's model.
>Oh, there's a blue drop over there, what is it? I can't see because of the grass
>Walk over, either pick it up, or inspect the mouse-over tooltip, and it's something gay that I would have been able to identify at a distance, if not for grass
Wasting my time.

>>720709496
>top most people can't even touch
>bottom is a beloved game everyone can run and enjoy
>top looks like shit
>bottom doesn't
>top runs like shit
>bottom doesn't
that is to say nothing about the gameplay experience where borderlands 2 absolutely destroys 4 in everyway.

>>720708442 (OP)
Crazy borderlands 2 ran on the vita, I played it on my pstv

>>720708963
If we go off the thumbnail, probably the use of colors and the moon in the background being somewhat reminiscent of the Bionis.

>>720708442 (OP)
I just want more Moxxi porn

>>720710303
>ran
Extremely generous way of describing what it did on Vita.

ok so other than being a contrarian whiny retard who stopped playing video games in 2010, explain why would top look better objectively than bottom

>>720709496
cellshaded graphics are truly a relic of an awful age

>>720710429
too busy

>>720710491
those aren't cel-shaded

>>720710429
top doesn't require a 5090 to run in 4k

>>720710429
wow unoptimized foliage spam, amazing stuff, and if it didn't have so much visual clutter the game would run smoother for everyone, and don't get me started on the seamless open world bloat, not having loading screens is annoying when it causes crashes, and slows the game to a single fps digit halt, it doesn't matter how good a game looks if most of the community can't enjoy it and lets not talk about the lost sales by making a game look and run like this, it simply doesn't matter how good the fidelity is when you are crippling the reach of the game, AND it doesn't even run well on the best machines without frame gen which is an absurd situation.

>>720710426
Nah, it isn't generous to say the game ran because it did it was choppy but the game didn't crash

>>720710429
You can actually play the top one with 60+ fps

>>720710552
>>720710603
>>720710706
t. picrel

>>720709496
maybe like 20% better

>>720710874
ah the andrew tate "YOUR POOR" school of argumentation don't engage just attack their perceived wealth or lack thereof classy, and completely irrelevant owners of a 5090 shouldn't have as much lag as they get, it doesn't matter which end of the spectrum your argue from weather its those at or near the minimum or the above reccomended settings, both ends are getting an unoptimized and poorly executed gameplay experience because of the clutter and bloating.

>>720710429
They look too similar for the specs the bottom one requires to run. All they did was switch from brown n' bloom to eye searing saturation.
We finally found color, but it came at a horrible cost.

>>720710992
ESL retard

>>720711013
lol

>>720708442 (OP)
we need to mine bitcoin on your machine to fund the weekly c-suite trips to the medieval times on little st james

>>720710429
>cherrypicks for hours to find the most plain looking scene in borderlands 2
>it still looks better and runs 30x faste
lol'd

this is what buyer's remorse looks like

>>720710874
i have a 5090 and would never ever buy borderlands 4, you need self respect and better taste in games. if you're playing a shooter at less than 200 FPS you're a shit eater.

>>720710429
>Randy's lil' bitch trying to justify his FOMO purchase

>>720709496
No? But of course you choose the most misleading and plain rocky terrain.

>>720710429
the outline around everything is too thick
there is no haze in the distance
the colors are unrealistically vibrant

the top looks like stylized reality, the bottom looks like a cartoon

>>720710429
clean, aesthetic, soulful

>>720709496
It does look lush I'll give you that. I love 2 but I get sick of all the fucking grey everywhere all the time. Grey rocks, grey roads, grey metal structures, grey concrete, grey grey grey. It grates on the eyes after a while, I'm sick of it honestly.

>>720709496
...Which one is Borderlands 4?

>>720711230
>buying a 5090 to play competitive slop at 1500fps

>>720710429
This game can run at 60FPS or higher on a toaster. Your "superior" sequel needs a NASA supercomputer which still lags and has massive frame drops.

>>720711565
i bought it to play competitive fps at 1500fps and also to generate artwork for my game very fast.

both of those are infinitely better than buying it to play AAA console dogshit made by indians at 40fps

>>720709496
It looks the same
>floating gun parts
cringe

>>720711609
>generate artwork

>>720708442 (OP)
You're brown and poor

>>720711785
it's predominantly brown "people" who buy $80 consoleshit games to socially signal how totally not poor they are

>>720709496
borderlands 4 is just noisy

>>720708442 (OP)
>looks the same as borderlands 2
Err, what? Looks like a different franchise to me.

>>720708442 (OP)
Pc master race keep buying new gpu's even at 2.6k dollars.

Thats whats happening

>>720714279
>retarded nigger who uses apostrophe for plurals
>is also poor
lmao @ your negroid life

>looks the same
every time you hear this you know someone didn't do checkups with their optometrist

>>720708442 (OP)
Have you played BL2? It doesn't look anywhere near as good as BL4.

>>720710429
There's no way that's Borderlands 4 at the bottom. It looks worse than Far Cry 3

>>720709496
Borderlands 4 looks exactly like borderlands 3 to a point I can't really tell from which game the screenshot was taken, and yet it works 20 times worse.

>>720710429
why

>>720709496
>>720710429
>want brighter colors? that will be $80 + newest GPU

look at those INCREDIBLe borderlands 4 graphics

>>720710429
Visual coherency.
Look at all the foliage in the foreground on 4, then look at the hill in the background. If you're going to spam that much foliage, you have to be able to have the draw distances handle it.
2 understood this (at least in the picture you're showing there) and deliberately kept the environments free of clutter to avoid pop-in and all that other shit that looks horrible and to provide a consistent experience.

>>720710429
why no ui in the bottom one?
borderlands 2 came out in 2012, and borderlands 4 looks barely better but with 10x the hardware requirement.
this isn't some big win.

>>720710429
Why negroes are comparing two different locations and enivornments? Im sure older games do have enivornments with foliage lmao.

>>720710429
4 lacks the comic book tone that 1 and 2 aimed for. Look at the rocks in 2 compared to the rocks in 4. Those cliffs in the top screenshot look like general 3d models with no attention paid to the texturing - like they just pulled generic textures from the Unreal texture library (can't remember the name of it - mega something).

>>720716019
>Those cliffs in the top screenshot
I meant bottom.

>>720715683
>168fps at 4k on a 9900k + 2080 ti and no DLSS

meanwhile borderlands 4 at 1080p on a 5090 + 9800x3d

>>720709496
both look awful and I can't tell the difference which is which

>>720709496
even if for the most goodest of good faith arguments you could say that bottom looks like top on medium settings.

>>720708442 (OP)
UE5 + pajeet code
It's that simple.

>>720709496
I get an instant headache looking at the top one.

>>720714625
If you're referring to teh outline it's because the shader they're using (or their implementation of inverse hull outline) is resulting in an absolute thickness. Doesn't matter how far or close an object is, the outline will always be the same thickness, hence objects further away look like they have a retarded thick outline and close ones have a super thin one.
It's not difficult to implement edge detection that isn't retarded, but modern devs are kinda fucked.

>>720708442 (OP)
Looks even worse desu.

>>720709736
It seems BL4 has a dumb algorithm for drawing silhouette. It's also outlining every single grass on the ground and probably killing tons of frame time.

>>720714403
speaking of farcry, has anyone seen that Dying light the beast? idk if its a new game or what but holy shit it reminds me of farcry instincts

>>720708442 (OP)
For once the conspiracy theory seems the most plausible, it's just to sell hardware. You can sprinkle it with actual incompetence though.

>>720709496
>zero crosshatched shading on the environment
was it this bad in 3?
never played it after 2.

>>720711315
>marketing screenshot with extra post processing

>>720709496
I legit can't tell which is which

>>720708442 (OP)
Because each blade of grass is individually rendered and has its own individual physics modelling.

I never was a big fan of this cell shaded stuff but somehow in BL4 it looks worse than ever.
Not very badass of you, Randy.

>>720709496
>>720716467
It kinda looks like a bland and gay version of Clash AoC to me.

>>720710303
>>720708442 (OP)
On the PS3 is apparently froze a lot and had all kinds of problems.
I started the original one on PS3 and I can only load into my game when I turn the internet settings on the console off.
Safe to say Borderlands games always ran like trash.

>>720716859
Yeah, it's just super clean looking, even compared to the relatively empty BL2 screenshots that anon chose.

>>720709496
>turn up saturation
holy kek

>>720716859
This game is so fucking good, I played it about exactly 1 your ago.
It's a shame ACE games can't connect to a broader audience.

>>720710429
While I like the look of BL4, that blurry stock annoys me to no end.

reminder gearbox, timmy, and jensen hate you.

>>720709496
you know its bad when you can't tell a ten year old game apart from its sequel

>>720717051
>bogosort
kek

>>720711264
https://youtu.be/YH2poCuaal8?si=Fbl6dGfuQm-9T8nj

>>720709496
i feel like this pic is gas lighting me very hard.. but i cant put my finger on it

>>720710429
how about you purposely stop using washed up screenshots?

>>720717163
The bottom one is mostly empty field so you hardly see any of the harsh outlines that these games are known for.

>>720709496
Holy fuck, I legit thought upper pic was bl2 until I saw the ui and I had like 500 hours in bl2

>>720717249
bottom is visual vomit. not sure if you are baiting but its working very well

>>720717249
lmao how did you cook that bl2 screenshot so much?

>>720709496
Top obviously looks leagues better from the higher poly count, to the flat terrain vs actual good looking terrain. But you can definitely argue the difference in computational power the top requires makes it hard to justify.