Thread 720727881

good game keeps winning, nindians keep seething

cap

>>720727881 (OP)
>quietly
Oh, if only.

>Stale Manur quietly slops (((4.4 million)))
>sales DOWN

Atlus sisters... Metaflop was supposed to win...

>>720727881 (OP)
i hyped the game up to 15+ normies at work to buy it

i pirated it day 1 lmao spending money on single player games

>>720728363
>imagine being a wageslave
They should give you a free copy though.

meanwhile metaflops sell 1 million and...thats it

>>720728351
>I WISH THAT I COULD TURN BACK TIME

>>720727881 (OP)
Where does this number come from? It has over 160k reviews on Steam, which would normally translate into at least 5kk copies sold. On Steam alone.

Silksong sold that many on day 1

even if i had above average pay i still wouldn't ever buy a single player game thats over 20€

>>720727881 (OP)
i got bored after an hour of gameplay, literally the most overhyped normie slop ive ever seen.

>>720727881 (OP)
That's a lotta Lune feet.

>>720728970
shit, meant for >>720728849

>>720728768
>Where does this number come from?
the devs

this game would have sold probably double if it wasn't it goypass

>>720729047
I guess games that make a stronger impression (good or bad) have a higher bought-to-reviewed ratio among owners.

>>720727881 (OP)
that's it? after all that hype?

>>720728351
How could Atlus fix Metashit? I think replaces the faggot androgynous with a chad Frenchman would be a good start.

4.4 million retards

>>720728970
I wouldn’t expect a Warhammer tard to understand taste

>>720727972
>it's a good game because it's easy and doesn't require much effort or attention to play

>>720729178
Oh yeah, the first entry on a FRENCH indie dev company only sold 4kk? FLOPPED

>>720729521
>a game needs to be hard to be good/fun

Mogged by an indie game LMAO

If you didn't play this with french audio dub, you didn't beat the game

>>720729578
cope

>>720727881 (OP)
Good games dont need denuvo. Thats a fact.

>>720727881 (OP)
Still not buying French slop. Take your smelly croissants elsewhere

>>720729578
it's AA not indie

>>720729776
The French dub is an afterthought, the original language is English.
And I played KCD and 2 in Czech

Is that supposed to be impressive? There's like 9 billion people on the planet...

>On all platforms
>How fucking much shilling there was for it
>Barely pulled double the estimates for Deltarune's sales on Steam Alone which are way lower since no data can be obtained from achievements

>>720729391
And you'll be the 4400001st when it's out on the Bing Bing Machine 2.

>>720730068
says the guy who considers 99.99995% of the population on earth to be subhuman

lmao what are people even arguing about in this thread? I don't know anything about this game but there's a lot of vitriol in here over it selling decently

>>720727881 (OP)
I personally don't put much stock in popularity, people are dumb and wrong. E33 is the goat though, best game I ever played.

>>720727881 (OP)
>Freemason Frenchoid slop
https://youtu.be/kLvGB3Ol2p4?si=i77avI0AaJMBrm_e

>>720729776
>Not playing the with the original voices
retard

>>720728970
But the intro isn't even over after an hour

>>720730810
Exactly my point
Crisis Core mogs this shit
Frenchlets can't even make ONE game bro!

>>720729584
Yes, a good game should have some depth and skill level to its gameplay.

>>720727881 (OP)
that's pretty good for a game with no previous entries

>>720727881 (OP)
Hahahaha
Hahahahahaha

Yoshit Piss sisters why is game of thrones vomit 16 stuck at 3.5 million sales?

>>720731053
>literally quadrillions of 9-10/10 JRPGs
>chooses one of the most 7/10 JRPG ever made

>>720731306
what makes you think it is stuck at 3.5 million sales
those sales were day 1

>>720729521
But enough about donkey kong banana

>>720730278
It's not on the switch and it's getting 10/10 reviews so people are salty

>>720731397
Kino story
Turks are gangstalkers

>>720731053
I disagree but respect your opinion.

>>720727881 (OP)
Unfortunately the game is boring ugly ue5 slop

>>720727881 (OP)
Shill campaigns work

>>720731658
>Kino story
True. And it has soul too. Doesn't change the fact that it's a 7/10 game as a whole.

>>720727881 (OP)
Another generative AI success.
AI is the future.

>>720729282
I love Atlus but I'm quite sick of their girly twink protagonists. Nanashi and Nahobino fucking sucked, hell even Joker and Yu radiate more masculine energy than those two despite being in worse games.

>>720727881 (OP)
The game will continue to sell well into 2026. It'll win bigly at the GotY awards and pick up traction, it's still not that well known among normies.

>>720729890
>>720730449
Nta but I didn't know that French wasn't the first language. Is the dub any good? I liked, for example, Blasphemous's Spanish dub a lot.

>>720731404
>what makes you think it is stuck at 3.5 million sales those sales were day 1

>Sales are bad because it's PlayStation exclusive

>Sales are bad because total number of PS5 units sold during Yoshit piss 16 release was low

>Sales are actually good but Square is not releasing sales figures after 2 years.

>Steam top concurrent numbers are worse than FFXV because people don't like XV. *Please don't compare steam review scores for XV and Yoshit 16*

>Sales are good after releasing on no#11 in Xbox

>Sales are good, source I made it the F up.

Anon which level of cope are you on?

>>720731992
Clearly it doesn't with shilling this aggressive bringing in such an embarrasingly low amount of sales.

4.7hose who buy after

>>720732267
>dude still obsessed with yoshi
Oh hey I thought you killed yourself

>>720729521
So what is it, too easy, or parry/dodge is too hard?

>>720729881
The shills can't decide if the game is supposed to be a heckin small indie game or the only RPG with production that can even hope to rival Final Fantasy. Both are specifically given as reasons why the game is supposed to be notable (the latter is brought out when people question why the poster somehow specifically doesn't care about any turn based RPG released between FFX and this, notice this pattern), even though the whole thing stinks of hacked together slop assets that wouldn't pass the bar of what would be acceptable for FF.

>>720732186
It sounds fine to me because I don't know French so I can't judge. But based on what I read from Frenchmen online it sounds like their anime dubs so not great.

>>720732186
>>720733363
The acting itself is pretty good compared to a lot of other french dubbed media, it's just that they all share the same voice actors in games, movies, shows etc. This game is no exception.

Weebfaggots in shambles.

>>720733661
That would make sense then. The acting and emotions felt fitting to me, but if I had heard the same voices on SpongeBob and Naruto or whatever it may have hit differently.
Is France in general a dubbing culture?

>>720729024
8.8 million in fact, brother.

>>720729584
>a game needs to be easy to be good/fun

>>720733946
Yes. Everything gets dubbed.

>>720727881 (OP)
>ruining the 3.3 meme
Great, now it has to go up to 33 million.

>>720734102
>Everything gets dubbed
Even regular live action films?
Here in Greece only low effort children's cartoons get dubbed, more "elevated" animation like Spiderverse or Ghibli films or anime movies get released on cinemas with subtitles. I remember Sony made a big deal out of fully dubbing the God of War remakes in Greek because it rarely happens, and apparently it was good, but I never played them.

>>720734125
I wish, so they could pull a silksong and work themselves alone and create what they want to create

>>720732267
dude, you act like it is stuck at 3.5 millions
and it isnt
stop coping, no need for this schizo rant

>>720727881 (OP)
Smashed FF 7 afterbirth with 1/20th the budget.

>>720731998
Why?
It's comf

>>720727881 (OP)
>4.4 million
>for a $50 budget game that has been shilled literally everywhere and praised to the high heavens
This is a “win” if you are a mentally ill tranny.

so I made it to act 3 finally
maelle is doing millions of damage whereas everyone else still hits like a wet noodle
how do I fix that

>>720727881 (OP)
Sales pretty much stalled. Not a runway success.

>>720735080
bench lune

>>720734925
The gameplay is pretty bad. The optional stuff is atrocious; I wanted to say "MMO-tier", but no, it's worse than in most MMOs.
But yes, the story and characters are very good. Because of that I think that the remake might actually be better for once. Unless they fucked up what was good in the original.

>>720727881 (OP)
How did an indie game made by 30 devolpers btfo ubisoft and ac shadows so badly?

>>720735108
>a runway success
I don't like how true this picture is. It should be just an obnoxious shitpost.

to be honest you need a extremely high estrogen level to appreciate e33

>>720728768
On metacritic this game has almost as many reviews as Elden Ring (20180 for E33 compared to 21021 for ER) and more than BG3, way more than Wukong or GoT or Hogwarts Legacy or any other game we know sold much more than E33. For whatever reason, way more people went out of their way on every platform to review this game compared tp the usual numbers. That kinda lines up with the ridiculous shilling this game had on here.

>>720727972
kek you got one >>720729521

>>720729578
>Indie dev company
The game cost $30m and is made by a bunch of corpos outsourcing most of the work to established games studios. This is far from some small crowdsourced passion project, Pierre

>>720735341
I like the gameplay
Action materia is fun and I don't mind a little extra fighting, makes resource management fun and feels like I have a chance to use all my items

>>720734125
Occultic as fuck
This is why I only play Japanese games
Europeans are weird

>>720734726
Correct. It probably got stuck at 3.4m.

>>720736047
holy shit!

>>720729776
>missing out on the best VA in the game

>>720736065
>outsourcing most of the work to established games studios
Which ones?

>>720736065
>The game cost $30m
Nobody knows the budget, it's at least a few mills but nowhere near that much, it's France not California
>and is made by a bunch of corpos
Who?
>outsourcing most of the work to established games studios
Who? The only other studio that worked on it was the Scorn team that did the console ports and they are under Kepler too. The Koreans that made animations weren't a studio, they were freelancers out of school with zero credits to their name.
>This is far from some small crowdsourced passion project
It wasn't crowdfunded.

>>720729881
Indie means INDEPENDENT, not the budget of a bowl of rice.

>>720730278
indians will post anything you want so AAA companies pay them pennies to shit up the internet. Tendies also seethe at anything not available on their toy.

>>720736413
Read the credits, will take you a while because of how fucking long they are. Don't tell me you fell for their 'made by a small group of 30 newbies' marketing meme? lol

>>720736215
Every second Jap game has Gnostic, alchemical and Kabbalah shit because they think it looks cool, what are you talking about

>>720736616
Yeah and it is cool, not actual ritualistic shit like having kids wear masks

>>720734574
The french have a history of dubbing, they developed a method where voice actors would read lines as the movie played, so it stuck culturally across different mediums.

>>720729024
Source?

>>720729024
>Occultic Ishtar foot worship
Why are westoids like this?
Why are they always so occultic?

>>720736852
jiinsan

>>720736574
Surely you can name some of the established game studios the work was outsourced to, why would you make such a claim if you don't actually have information that supports it?

>>720736574
Have you actually read the credits though
>every employee in the recording studio that Cox went for one afternoon to record his lines
>every single playtester and every Polish employee from the QA service
>every instrumentalist in the orchestra that recorded the music
It's nice that they included everyone who tangentially contributed to the game in any way into the credits, but they're not all core developers.

>4.4M sales at a discounted price
That's like saying Horizon Zero Dawn sold a lot of copies cause it was bundled with Playstations.

>>720737052
>but they're not all core developers.
Not only that, but no one ever considered people like that to be among the dev team, in the history of gaming. Only when the narrative about e33's "small 30 man team" came out did people say start saying dumb shit like "well what about the playtesters!?" It's cheaper for AAA companies to pay jeets to shit on small competitors than it is for them to invest in making better games. It's why you get ranjeets like >>720736574 in here constantly making claims like "its ai" "its store assets" "its outsourced" and fucking off when asked for any proof of their claims.

>>720737227
>a bundle is like a non-bundle
No it's not.

>>720736025
But doesn't line up with 160k reviews on Steam that are verified by purchases. And before you get a funny idea, no, devs can't take 100k keys for free and give them to bots. They would have to buy those copies normally, and with taxes and Valve's tip, they would get back maybe 20% of what they spent.

>>720737227
What discounted price? I agree with you that the game is worth much more, still, it's the normal price. The game never had a discount higher than -10%.

>>720737227
What the fuck are you talking about Retard?

>7R schizos will be maldng over this game every day for the rest of their lives
Good

>>720737273
>but no one ever considered people like that to be among the dev team, in the history of gaming
Actually I'll have you know that QA testers are extremely important for a game's success and deserve equal credit.

>>720737227
>so buckbroken by corpos that he thinks a game charging less than 80 dollars is a "discount"
Factor in the random dig at sony and a child coudl deduce that this was a tendie post

>>720737403
>>720737413
>>720737470
>>720737692
At $70 per copy.

>>720736215
Meds

>>720737746
>only owning 1 console
Those grapes are probably sour anyways, right tendie? Can you tell me your thoughts on Palworld?

How do they improve ex33 if they make a similar game in the future? I loved the overworld and exploration, the game is full of side content that rewards you. Parry is too strong though, they should probably make dodge have a purpose rather than being a useless crutch.

>>720737413
I'm not saying the reviews are bots or anything. I'm just pointing out that there is a consistent trend for fans of this game to go out of their way to hype this game up, so trying to use estimates based on typical patterns in other games will be unlikely to give you an accurate guess in this particular case.

>>720737810
>oy VEY stop noooooticing our normie obsession with occultic shit like porn and trooning out

>>720737853
A lot better than any Pokemon game. Enjoy your 4.4M copies at half the price of a real game.

>>720737746
Expedition 33 was never $70, it was $50 where the fuck did you get $70 from?

>>720738068
>Enjoy your 4.4M copies at half the price of a real game.
I own but one copy, and did enjoy it. Am I supposed to be mad it didn't cost me more? Why would I as a consumer be angry about a less expensive product? That would be a deranged way to think.

>>720736047
Lmao

>>720727881 (OP)
What's with the colors on Gamereactor's pfp? Is this because people are noticing the trannies at the center of the recent shootings?

>>720738154
There comes a point in an autist's life where their deranged brain starts receiving dopamine from their favourite corporation receiving money. They'll start praising gachashit and mobile cash grabs and overpriced games and shitty products of it makes money. Bizarre behaviour.

>>720738153
From his tendie need to make every discussion about nintendo

>>720738068
You mean, at twice what the price of a DLC should be.

>>720738227
>sees any color palette
>IMMEDIATELY start thinking about transexualism
You're mentally ill

>>720738153
That's right. It could never sell itself for full price. It started off discounted. It was the only way people would buy it. If it was full priced, then people would actually rate it lower.

>>720738154
You would actually like the game less if it cost more. It was only a great game to you because you paid less than you expected. Had you paid more, it would've been less enjoyable. They bought your approval of the game.

>>720738267
Nintendo mogs this slop.
FF7 ON SWITCH 2 LET'S GOOOOOOO
It's gonna outsell this pozzed shit

>>720737052
>Cox
Yep one of the several Hollywood stars this small indie developer got for their low budgeted $30m game. Made almost entirely by a bunch of first times, sorry ex corporate employees who outsourced most of the work, and then employed a full scale marketing strategy with the typical industry faces
The funniest thing is that you unironically brought into all their marketing lies lmao

>>720737884
Don't lock characters to having just 6 active skills
Make parry less strong or get rid of the stat distribution if not
More equipment
Better area design, more landmarks, more unique attributes between locations
Don't have 90% of the character growth happen in 1 on 1 standing talking at camp

>>720738389
>You would actually like the game less if it cost more.
Of course that's not true. I'm simply not going to be upset about spending less money. I would've bought it at a higher price if that was what it cost.

>>720738389
>It couldn't sell at the full price
It sold at for the full price, you seem very salty.

>>720738420
But tendie you have been shitting on ff7r for years

>>720736852
Lune's feet.

>>720738528
>who outsourced most of the work
to whom? Surely you're not just making this up and can tell me who did the actual work.

>>720738528
Owned.
Trannies are defeated.

>>720728768
There was a charitable event in france, some devs came by because it took place in the same town sandfall's studios are located
One of the dev (the hair designer cutie) leak the number in an interview
https://youtu.be/4VrnDS-mko0?feature=shared&t=191

>>720738603
Cause we couldn't have it
Until now
Square Enix is ours now steamboi

>>720727881 (OP)
>mogs Tales of Arise
>mogs Metaphor
>mogs Xenoblade
>mogs Raidou
>mogs Redditbirth
>mogs Trails HARD by selling more than a half of the whole series
Why can't japanese make good games anymore?

>>720729282
Not recycling their same shitty formula. Metaflop took 8 years to make and was just a P5 dlc.

>>720727881 (OP)
fantastic game

only woke shit is the forced diversity in the town + the brown lady in your party that doesn't look brown except in her portrait for some reason.

also a gay hint to snuggle with Monoco (you later find out it's because he represents the family dog but it still left a bad taste in the mouth)

this is a top tier report card though, don't get me wrong

>>720737692
>That pic
Is there anything that is not a "troon icon"?

>>720738531
Good ideas. They clearly had a very strong artistic vision, and the music and voice acting knocked it out of the park. The levels were stunning to look at and the combat was very stylistic, but with more experience under their belt I hope both have more mechanical depth in the next game.

>>720736942
What the fuck are you talking about schizo
Feet are cute, no cult is required to believe that
You are a psychopath if you pretend otherwise

>>720738791
>Can't accept Kinobirth moggation and resorts to coping about how one of the most based games of all time is reddit
Reddit 33 - a weird westoid occult game with cultlike followers worshiping women's feet like they're at the altar of Ishtar
Grim
Westoids need to step it up already

>>720738567
You may have bought it at a higher price, but most wouldn't and your enjoyment of the game world be lessen. You said it yourself:
>Why would I as a consumer be angry about a less expensive product?
You wouldn't, but if it were more expensive, you'd be less happy.

>>720738571
It sold at $50. Full price games are now $70 going on $80. Actually, E33 is kind of overpriced seeing how Silksong went for only $20.

>>720739039
Ishtar zombie

>>720738528
The only two semi major voice actors, Serkis and Cox, weren't casted during development, they were bright over by Kepler because their CEO has connections with the British film industry. And they both had very few lines and did all of them in a day, there are voice actor interviews you could watch it you wanted.

>>720738867
You find out before the snuggling that Monoco is a dog, and he's also an utterly unsexual being. Thinking of gay stuff and feeling tastes in your mouth has to do with your own issues, fag.
>brown lady
Not even in her portrait. Sciel has fair eyes and a tan.

Best written game of all time was written by a Swedish woman. I realize this pains a lot of people here but it's just undeniable.

>>720728351
I still need to do my 2nd playthrough of Metaphor. I held off on doing it cause I thought Atlus were going to release some complete edition that added like 20 hours of content and a new party member and 3 social links or some shit like Royal was.

>>720739087
Full price games are at whatever the developer/ publisher wish to sell their game for. You seem confused.

>>720739087
>your enjoyment of the game world be lessen
I see, this type of flawless logic is unsurprisingly flowing forth from the highly-adept mind of one of our aryan friends from bharat.

>outsells the shitch poo
OHNONONONONONO NINTARDOXISTERS

All zoomers can talk about is popularity, truly mindfucked by social media and chasing likes all their lives.

>>720737884
would have been lovely if ex33 had a New Game+ where enemies have 10x health and deal 10x damage, but you get to continue with the same characters as you ended the game with (all characters, before they are unlocked in the story). additionally you get access to pictos that lets you equip more than 6 skills.

>>720739167
>You find out before the snuggling that Monoco is a dog
maybe you did

>Not even in her portrait. Sciel has fair eyes and a tan.
lol, that's no tan dude. you might be joking tho

>>720727972
>Nindians
I'm using this from now on

>>720739217
It sure is. $80 Mario Kart world is worth every penny. Silksong isn't underpriced. Borderlands 4 and Outer Wilds 2 should have been $80. GTA 6 priced at $100 will be fine.

>>720739292
I don't know what you're talking about, /pol/nigger. I just know you wouldn't like the game if it was $70. You'd say it was good, but not worth the price and that people should wait for a price drop.

>>720739450
Based
Zoomer troons OWNED by Nintensoul

>>720739453
>that's no tan
Sciel worked in agriculture, and from first hand experience Mediterranean people tan a lot from sunlight.

>>720736509
It also has a publisher.

>>720739612
it's a lovely cope for sure, i believe it

>>720739653
Fucking PWNED
SOULLESS 33

>>720739653
Devolver bros... Serenity Forge bros...

>>720739561
Why are you trying to run through a basic economics lesson here? Games sell for what they are valued at to the publisher and player both.
For example the recent Doom was also priced at $80 and was a commercial flop selling less than 1million copies whereas if they had priced the game cheaper say around $60 it might have enticed more people to pay the game.
GTA is an interesting concept because people aren't simply buying a single player game, they're buying into an MMOlite eco system game so the valuation of $100 is seen by players and publishers as worthwhile.

>>720738389
The best thing about posts like this is that the anon is being 100% serious. It's one of the many posts that proves that 4chan really is the place where people go to prove that the bullies were right.

>>720728351
Stay mad

>>720729521
nintendo games are extremely easy...

>>720729282
>How could Atlus fix Metashit?
There was 0 reasons to not include romance. You whiny SMTranny fags always bitch and moan that romance is not important but it's a huge reason to replay the game to see the different routes.

>>720739661
I'd be the first to call her a hot gypsy because that archetype is rare and I'm into it, but she has light coloured eyes.

>>720739846
Nein.
BotW trials of the sword is basically impossible

>>720738742
>leak the number in an interview
Lel, it just keeps happening.

>>720727881 (OP)
Space Marine 2 sold that in a month and people weren't shilling it like the best game ever

>>720738372
Noticing a contemporary color scheme that is strongly associated with a pharma backed death cult that plasters it any and everywhere is not an insane or absurd observation. Denying its use for virtue signaling and abrasive face rubbing might indicate that you are, in fact, just a massive faggot.

>>720739794
Doom was worth $80. That's what the publisher priced it at. It was the right choice.
>Full price games are at whatever the developer/ publisher wish to sell their game for.
You can't second guess the publisher of the game, just like I can't say E33 wouldn't have sold as well or be liked as much if it was sold at a higher price point. You're the one that seems confused. Is the price point the publishers choose the right one or actually reflective of the market they're trying to reach? If it's the latter, E33 wouldn't have sold as well at a full-price point and its fans wouldn't have liked it as much paying $70 for a turn-based JRPG with western character designs.

>>720739805
That's right. You wouldn't have liked E33 as much if you had to pay $70 for it. You would've said it was good, but not worth the price and that people should wait for a price cut. A discount.

>>720740073
>contemporary color scheme that is strongly associated with a pharma backed death cult
>black, white, red, blue
Take medication to not hurt yourself or others.

>>720739453
Her gimmick is cards and fortune telling she's probably meant to be a gypsy. You can't be any more mad about her than you would about esmeralda.

>>720740136
>Doom was worth $80. That's what the publisher priced it at. It was the right choice.
It obviously wasn't worth that to the customer/ players because it didn't sell.

Currently just met the balloon clown ride guy to help cross the river, game is pretty cool
Is mage girl showing her feet during sprint lore significant at all?
Did she used to walk around a lot as a child and that made her sad, so now she never walks and the grown raped her somehow?
Also I don't tryst our adopted doter girl at all, what was she doing in that mansion while everyone got moved across the normal locations huh? Seems sussy baka to me.
I'm having fun tho, captivating and original game.

>>720728768
>Where does this number come from? It has over 160k reviews on Steam, which would normally translate into at least 5kk copies sold. On Steam alone.
I'd wager Expedition 33 has a much larger majority of PC players than other games, and also a higher degree of fan engagement in terms of reviews etc due to general good will with it being a reasonably priced and well-made game. Metrics like yours are useful in terms of overall averages, but can't guarantee an accurate prediction for a specific game as there going to be a significant per-game variance.

>>720739453
>>You find out before the snuggling that Monoco is a dog
maybe you did
Everyone did, you find that out in the epilogue manor at the end of act 2. The snuggling line is in monoco's last camp dialog which is only available in act 3.
>but you get to continue with the same characters as you ended the game with (all characters, before they are unlocked in the story)
You get lune, sciel, monoco, and maelle right from the beginning alongside gustave in NG+. You can walk around Lumiere as monoco.

>>720736509
that definition is outdated. It's a question of budget nowadays

>>720739561
>I just know you wouldn't like the game if it was $70.
At its current price it's better than a lot of 70 dollar games. Stop putting words in my mouth and put a bathroom in your house, jeet.

>>720740013
It's optional. And the rewards are absolutely retarded.
>do the hardest thing in the game
>your weapon now deals more damage which you will need for uhhhhhhh
I still did it, though it wasn't very fun on the long run. Simon in E33 is still harder, if you're not using those "one-hit" strategies. Which, too, is optional.

>>720740368
I guess if you could float wouldnt you?

>>720740136
I honestly don't even know how to respond to this. I literally just downloaded the game for free because I download games for free before I decide to buy them and almost never buy them unless they're on sale.

By your logic, every game that's free should be everyone's favorite because they paid nothing for it. But that's not true at all.

>>720740368
>Is mage girl showing her feet during sprint lore significant at all?
If you remember at the start of the game there were some dancers that had golden circuit sigils on their hands, those are pictos engravings that let you do magic
Instead of putting them just on her arms, she also put them on her legs so she can now hover, and needs to stay barefoot to do magic infused kicks and shit

All of this is slapped on lore explanation cope btw, the real answer is the character artist just drew her barefoot because he thought it was hot and modeled her around it.

>>720740510
It's based is what it is
SOVL
SOULLESS 33 is just shamelessly copying it with their ugly women that get mogged by Paya

>>720728768
>5kk
haven't seen anyone use kk since 2004

>>720740171
i'm not at all mad about the wokeness level of this game outside of "we MUST have blacks in the city", it doesn't matter.

>>720740405
>Everyone did
what you mean to say is everybody had the chance to learn that, clearly everyone didn't. i missed it and if i missed it other people did too

>in NG+
oh shit, wait. i didn't even know there is a new game+ already, haha

>>720727881 (OP)
>4.4 million
Already surpassed by Silksong lmao.

>>720740510
Simon should have had anti one shot protection on his phase 2, at minimum requiring the skill to take down his last third with your B team. Skipping his third phase and song change by accident is criminal

>>720739810
we still doing this? this is from the last time i btfo you not sure what the updated numbers are, but hurry up and post arm

>>720727881 (OP)
>can't make a step on internet without hearing about E33
>only 4.4m copies sold
What a joke, that's literally nothing compared to how loud everyone about this game.

4.4 million is impressive for a "JRPG" but I thought it would be bigger with the amount of people talking about the game.

>>720740150
>black, white, red, blue
check your monitor's color settings anon.

It was also on goypass day 1 retards

>>720740872
that's also with the goypass debuff, i personally know close to 10 people who played it and half of them played it on goypass on pc

>>720729024
Even metaflop has more fanarts than this shit.

>>720740861
>>720740872
Most normies will only play games with names they know.

>>720740861
>enters e33 threads
>"Why do I keep hearing about this game?"
>enters more e33 threads

>>720740368
>Is mage girl showing her feet during sprint lore significant at all?

Absolutely.

>>720728768
E33 fans are much more vocal about the game being good, so they'll probably have a higher review count than standard games

>>720740636
In what ways does E33 copy BotW? Here's my own screenshot from the final part of BotW, by the way, just so you can tell I have finished both games.

>>720740708
See, I was somewhat of a Lineage II connoisseur once.

>>720740828
Absolutely agree. I think instead of removing the limit in Act 3, it should just be increased to 999999.

didn't these motherfuckers raised the price?

>>720728768
Most people who play it love it, most games that sell a lot of copies has tons of people who just puts it down and forgets it because it's bad.

>>720740965
Goypass plays aren't counted as sales.

>>720741192
(((Simon)))
Copies the final game challenge mechanic which botw did better

>>720740357
Then I assume you reject this statement:
>Full price games are at whatever the developer/ publisher wish to sell their game for.
Because if the price of a game is determined by the buyer, then the price of E33 was a discount, because people wouldn't have bought it at full price, cause it's not worth a $70 price tag. It's not good enough for it.

>>720740590
You pirated the game and then bought it on sale. My logic is simple. You wouldn't have bought the game at $70. You are even avoiding saying it right now. Is E33 worth $70? Should E33 fans have bought the game at $70? Should Sandfall have sold it at $70?

>>720740504
Is it good enough to be worth $70? Because the words I'm putting in your mouth are correct. You would NOT have liked the game as much if it was sold for $70. You would have liked it less. You know in your heart it's true.

>>720741061
If you can't comprehend something you just read, just ask, no need to act as blackest gorilla nigger you actually are.

>>720740830
>Metaphor has a higher rating
Glad we agree on GOTY.

>>720741426
>entering threads for games you hate just to seethe

>>720741321
You forgot to copy me in proving that you played E33, I can't help but notice.

man fatlus and finalfucks are still SIZZLING

>>720741591
>games you hate
You just doubled down on being blackest gorilla nigger.
Why?

>>720741312
That's the point, it would have sold more if it wasn't free on Gamepass
Not blaming them for taking that Microsoft deal, it was their first game and expected way less success, but it still ate into their potential sales

>>720741617
Not gonna play the occultic ritual game
Sorry not sorry

>>720740830
>user score
Humiliation ritual.

>>720736047
Does anyone remember the schizo before the game came out that kept insisting that this was going to flop and be a bad game?

>>720741787
Ah, you should have said that you had no way of comparing these to games from the start. I can do it for you, since I played both: BotW is a solid 8/10 (although the first 5-8 hours were 10/10), E33 is a solid 10/10.
Hope you give it a try to see for yourself when it comes to the Switch 2, which I'm sure will happen soon.

>>720741362
Anon, if had pirated it and liked it enough and could afford it then I would have gladly payed $70 for it. I did as much for WUCHANG, even though WUCHANG was only $60. Would I have liked it even more if it was $20? Yeah, probably. I'd be wondering why the fuck more people aren't buying it since at $20 the game is a fucking steal. After playing WUCHANG, I have decided that I would have gladly paid $70 for it. If E33 is as good as people make it seem, then indeed-- I would have bought it immediately.

Your logic is completely flawed from the ground up and it is a genuinely sad hill to die on. The game isn't even $70 and you are shitting your diapers about how much worse it would have been if it was. I haven't even played E33 yet and only just installed it on my PC yesterday. I can't afford to buy a new game right now, so whether it was $50 or $70 has literally no bearing on whether I would enjoy the game or not lmao.

>>720742017
Nope.

Ubisoft lost.

>>720742074
>I haven't even played E33 yet and only just installed it on my PC yesterday.
What? You've been talking to me about a game you never played? I'll return to everything else you said in a minute, but you've never played E33?

>>720728351
We still have our BAFTA award.

>>720742297
Then you'll have to rely on opinions of other people. It's nothing embarrassing to leave the thinking to others, so don't worry about it.

>>720742693
Nope, don't need to waste my time playing it to know it's shite
Occultic whitoids are nemesis

>>720742582
No, I literally just installed it yesterday and have been waiting for my new GPU to come in the mail before I bother playing any new games.

>>720731397
I hope you're not implying crishit core is good

>>720742925
>whitoids
Why are you racist? You know it's not allowed outside of /b/, right?

>>720743252
What GPU?

>>720741687
>enters threads to complain about a game because he likes it

>>720743321
4070 Ti Super

>>720743321
>saying the word whitoids is rayciss
Fragile.

>>720743252
Alright, then getting back to what you said.

>Would I have liked it even more if it was $20? Yeah, probably. I'd be wondering why the fuck more people aren't buying it since at $20 the game is a fucking steal.

This is my logic. You have encapsulated it. A lower price point can make your gaming experience feel better.
>the game is a fucking steal
E33 is $50. If it cost less, it would be even better. If it cost more it would be WORSE. If WUCHANG was $80, $90, $100, would you still like it as much? No.

And, you're pirating it. You're not chancing spending $50, $60, $70 on a game you don't know you liked already. The price you value the game at is set by your experience on it. If you had gotten WUCHANG and not liked it, it wouldn't be worth $60 to you. Maybe it would be worth $30 or $40. That's how most people feel after playing a game they bought. They judge it based on the price they paid for it. Your system is different cause you pirate the games first and therefore play a lot of games for free without having to ever judge them based on the price you paid for them, which is what my whole argument is based upon, which you already understand.

A game's enjoyment is relative to the monetary valuation the player puts on it, which it decided by the price point of the entry fee. In your case, it's free most of the time.

So, to summarize, had you bought WUCHANG at $60 first, I don't think you'd like it as much because you'd have higher expectations for it having already spent the money playing it, which would've reduced the enjoyment of the game. Instead, you played it for free, enjoyed it, felt the price the publisher is asking for was appropriate and then donated money towards them. It's the same mindset a lot of F2P players have.

>>720727881 (OP)
Is this the thread or does there need to be a
>*suffers*
thread?

>>720744058
I only make those every few days.

>>720744058
Yes, you can use this one to show others that your IQ is below 100 by thinking that one of the endings is "good".

>>720744390
>muh genocide
>muh vr
there, both brainlet arguments summed up. Add in a dash of "i hate my real life family" for maelle's.

>>720744290
Sometimes I make them too.

>>720741016
>Metabore out of nowhere

Uh oh, stinky~

>>720744290
>>720744673
Buy an ad

>>720743903
Eh, actually that's a fair point. One of the worst things about Dragon's Dogma 2 was that I paid for it at full price. That was like twisting the knife. Since ultimately what a person likes about a game is how it makes them *FEEL*, things like the price feeling unfair can bring down your perception of it as a whole and make you forget the parts you enjoyed.

You know what? Fair enough, anon. I admit that I was hasty in calling you a retard. A game's price absolutely has a huge bearing on whether or not you can bring yourself to enjoy it or not. Which is precisely why I try to avoid paying for one at all. Being burned by a game you pay full-price for stings in ways that almost feels insulting.

Which is why the Clair Obscur team did the right thing by selling their game for cheaper. Even if the overall quality of an indie game is significantly better than that of a AAA, their humble status means that they have to play by the rules of the market. To sell it for higher would have signaled grandiosity and made people more critical of its flaws regardless of how egregious they were.

>>720744774
meanwhile metasissies in every thread:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/4DONunwScczEjVmG3dYWCg/

>>720744673
Sorry, my autism must be infectious.

>>720745243
This is an E33 thread, why are you so obsessed about Metaphor?

>>720745331
retard >>720739810

>>720745196
Good on you. And I'll say I think you're smart to pirate a game and find its value to you beforehand and still give the developer money for it. A lot of people woudn't do that and just enjoy the pirated game. If people like a game, they should reward the developer. That's the right thing to do.

>>720745445
Retard x 2 >>720728351

>>720727881 (OP)
>easy movie slop for braindead normies to goon over and pretend they like RPGs for a few hours
>didn't even get 5 million after the endless shilling and over hyping
bruh

>>720741515
>>720741807
>the opinions of trannies are more valuable than that of the masses
post axe wounds, faggots

>>720732267
Barry, please go outside for a week, it's for your own good

>>720746023
And you're are going to shill E33 until the ground if those trannies gave it any GOTY award late this year, you fucking hypocrite brownoid.

>>720736330
astounding levels of did nothing wrong ever
>b-but the genocide--
cope sneed skill issue didn't read

>>720746203
E33 is the quintessential White mans game of the past decade. we all know why you're seething about the game, you are not subtle you melanated faggot

>>720745196
>Which is why the Clair Obscur team did the right thing by selling their game for cheaper
Generally, unless you sell a game everybody already wants, lower price means higher revenue. It's obviously better to sell 30k copies for 30 bucks each than 10k copies for 60 bucks.
And indie devs that release their first game with a price higher than 10 bucks - unless it looks really, really good - are retarded.
Just wanted to say this, I realise it's not the point of your post. I just play a lot of obscure indies and it pisses me off when I see a fun looking indie that costs 25 bucks and has just as many reviews.

>>720746347
>no argument
Concession accepted.

>>720746347
>French
>White

>>720746404
there's nothing to argue about. I'm an E33chad. i already won.

>>720746328
>did nothing wrong ever
he reminded me of my dad who i hate, checkmate.

>>720746023
>critics are le bad... until my favorite game get GOTY, then they are valid
Subhuman behavior

>>720746347
The cougar in the red jacket looks menacing.

>>720746404
>>720746467
>browns STILL seething about a small euro team making a good game

>>720746613
it's going to handily win both the journo and fan votes so i'm not sure what your point is

>>720744390
It was a bit of a bummer. The start and Gustave's whole character made me think it'd be a dark but hopeful game about moving forward, but the ending options are bad and worse.

>>720746791
There are almost no fan awards, critics are virtually the only ones voting on these awards.

>>720746684
random discord msg
hey I can type that out too

>>720746942
That's exactly what it was. The dark was simply darker than you expected.

>>720746942
A game that plays the classic tragedy tale completely straight is a rarity.

>>720746602
Imagine being Renoir
>Son (best guy) dies saving failure daughter from a fire she's guilty of
>Failure daughter is crippled and sad
>Wife locks herself in Plato's gooncave to cope
>Sociopath daughter doesn't give a shit, technically "helps" you by making life worse for everyone involved
>Failure daughter tries to help and fucks everything up even more
>Now have two retards to have to go Marche FFTA on
Hard life indeed.

>>720747231
>Imagine being Renoir
You did a poor job of it since he loves Alicia and is certain she'll succeed when she grows courageous enough to try, and describes Clea as the most like himself. He's still a tragic father having to deal with multiple legendary woman moments.

>>720747101
I played it only recently, from that pic I'm intuiting that these arguments have been done to death already.

>>720747184
Yeah, in the end the bad endings could've been avoided in several ways but the characters' own flaws and fuckups bring them about in a natural manner. Memorable and compelling narrative, but I'm still sad for the characters.

>>720747407
>Yeah, in the end the bad endings could've been avoided in several ways but the characters' own flaws and fuckups bring them about in a natural manner
It's shown pretty clearly with Alicia Blanca's letter, a better outcome for all could be possible but the characters involved are too flawed to allow it.

>>720747373
I'm being flippant, but I do enjoy how Renoir's love for Aline and Alicia is completely sincere and heartfelt. It would've been much easier to make him a shit father and husband, and it would've been weaker writing for it.
>picrel
Good to know somebody else made the obvious comparison

>>720747407
>I'm intuiting that these arguments have been done to death already.
Brother... You have no idea. The facts have been stated a million times each and all that's left are histrionic maellefags seething about their own families and midwit versofags claiming with certainty that the painted people are chatgpt. There's still some funny memes posted but ultimately, it was a short, story focused game and most of the remaining discussion is just dunking on endingniggers and tendies/jeet shills who shit their pants at any mention of 33.

>>720747593
A truer post has ever been posted.
Now link the source for that image.

>>720747592
Yeah, they did an amazing job with the details they chose to leave ambiguous, but making Renoir's love for his family so explicit was a great choice.

>>720747658
No.

>>720747593
Makes sense. In the end I'm team Maelle because I don't think the Dessendres' trauma outweighs the lives of a whole world of sentient people, but I'm under no illusion that it's a "good" ending or anything but a stopgap measure. Verso is still my favorite character tho.

Reddition 33

>>720747775
A reasonable stance, and hopeful at that. I'm glad you enjoyed it, this game was something special.

Is Renoir going to return to the canvas and force Alicia out before she actually ODs?

>>720747878
Who can say? If Aline stays out for good, Renoir can probably body her easily after a nap. It's up to (You)

>>720729521
WRONG. it's a MASTERPIECE because I'm part pollack (this means I'm actually super duper white) and seeing black people gives me a realistic panic attack because I'm addicted to cuck porn, and expedition 33 doesn't do that to me. The thought of not having kids, never being loved, and spending my life watching blacked porn makes me hate myself, and expedition 33 restored my sense of dignity, my sense of self respect. You nerds will bitch all day about how it's just a QTE simulator, how the pacing is awful, how the enemy design is boring garbage, but none of that matters. What matters is that for a brief moment, this game made a white manlet like me feel like I can respect myself.

>>720727881 (OP)
>didnt stop at 3.3 million
Fucking souless

>>720747930
He'll lack chroma, so who knows how'd that go.

>>720747878
>>720747930
Or he accepts her decision to stay and leaves her to it, death and all.
Much like Verso's ending shows the family going through the funeral, but don't show whether or not Alicia's going to get treated well after that let alone all of the OTHER things not shown like the Writers and the incoming World War and more.

>>720748090
Aline controlled all the chroma in the canvas and Renoir still fractured the world, and she was a better painter than him. Alicia is far worse and already crazy.

>>720746347
You're brown

What do you think Renoir's young man gooncave canvases were like?

>>720747878
Probably. Either way Lumiere's days are numbered, Verso in the paint mines or not. The time dilation/difference inside the Canvas might give them a few in-world decades of peace, I guess.

>>720748458
He's an abstract artist, so imagine things like the statues, Sirene, Visages, The Reacher, etc since Aline's the best painter in the whole family and excels in "realistic" art.

>>720748531
It's left up to you the player the interpret the quality of that life, as well. You could make arguments for everything from "almost everyone is a mannequin" to "I guess they're just chill about still living in ruins."

>>720746347
>Brown hair brown eyes
>Black hair brown eyes
>Brown hair brown eyes
>Brown hair brown eyes
>White

>>720748810
It makes kikes and niggers seethe. That's the best definition for "white" there is.

Recently boughted it, kino/soul.
The music is enhancing the experience, great visuals, lovely stuff, love it so far.

>2003
>Star Ocean 3 comes out
>everyone collectively groans at the reveal that Star Ocean takes place in a simulated universe
>still a decent game, just kind of a shitty reveal, and everyone agrees

>2025
>Expedition 33 comes out
>a bunch of zoomers and literal paid shills who have never played any other video games in their entire lives run their campaign to attempt to gaslight online video game communities into believe that the game taking place inside of a painting (i.e. a simulated universe) is the deepest, most profound, most meaningful, and best written narrative that has ever deigned itself to grace the gaming medium
>despite having practically ZERO fanart to speak of anywhere, a massive and noteworthy anomaly for a game that is allegedly so popular, it is one of the highest and most rated games of all time, in both score and in number of reviews

Nothing to see here, folks

>>720729282
Stop making Persona 5 over and over.

>>720749871
They could just make the game more fun how about that.

>>720727972
>nindians

>>720749264
>everyone collectively groans at the reveal that Star Ocean takes place in a simulated universe
Because we were kids with IQ too low to understand the idea of relative reality. Now we're adult and intelligent, so we can finally appreciate the concept.

>they like thing I don't like, therefore zoomers, shills, trannies, niggers, faggots, indians
I hope you will reach that IQ level, too, one day.

>>720749264
Expedition 33 makes it obvious from the start. Star Ocean 3 has absolutely nothing to even suggest it until the reveal happens something like 80% of the way through the game. Eternal Sonata is somewhere in the middle of the two.

>>720748901
>Ruining your bloodline just to own da joos
Wow, brownoids that love to pretend being white are all imbeciles, aren't you?
Guess what, Raaj? If you have brown eyes, brown hair, or a combination of the two, you will never be white.

>>720750685
>>720750823
>people attempting to justify and rationalize this fact
>one of them is either some of the best satire I've ever seen or the dumbest mother fucker alive
lol, and bravo if your post is satire. We live in 2025 so it's hard to tell who is retarded and who is making fun of retards

>>720742343
>ubibros... its over...

>>720749264
E33 is astroturfed so hard it's pretty pathetic

>>720751057
>people attempting to justify and rationalize this fact
Which fact exactly? That there are two games that have one thing in common and people seem to like one of them and not the other? This happens from time to time. Concord did some things Overwatch did, and yet, it wasn't quite as popular. Must be da juice, there is simply no other explanation.

>>720751261
Ah, there he is. That one guy who thinks people on /v/ use the word "astroturfed".

>>720751261
>E33 is astroturfed so hard it's pretty pathetic
Very true.

>>720751373
Uhh... no, people still like Star Ocean 3, they just don't like the exact same twist that E33 has. But a bunch of zoomers who have never actually played any other video games got got by the shills narrative and now they're perpetuating that it's the greatest narrative ever told, even though 20 years ago it was just mediocre. There's also the fact that if anyone says they don't like the twist, the unpaid shills get sent into a frenzy and start calling people retarded third worlders, whereas with Star Ocean 3, the people who liked it understood why people did not.

I know that a zoomer can't understand this, but as a boomer, it's very weird and very telling and further proof of the dead internet theory

5mil by year's end. ez. there will be enough seethe to power 3 suns.

>>720751645
>they like thing I don't like, therefore zoomers, shills, trannies, niggers, faggots, indians

>>720750823
>Star Ocean 3 has absolutely nothing to even suggest it until the reveal happens something like 80% of the way through the game

>he thinks it's normal for the entire universe to use the same currency
>he doesn't know about Puffy

>>720751821
Well, actually, you just greentexted (i.e. "projected") the narrative that the shills use to fight people who didn't like the Act III reveal.

Me? I only said zoomers, because only a zoomer who hasn't played very many video games could think that Act III's reveal is 10/10 worthy. I guess a boomer could think it too if they also haven't played very many video games or consumed very much other other forms of media, but it's more likely that a zoomer would be the level of inexperienced required to think that "it was all a dream" is 10/10. I'd even argue it's most likely for someone with that opinion to be underage, but perhaps modern media has degraded so far that this once ridiculed trope is now seen as genius.

>>720735080
sounds like a (You) problem. sciel was hitting for over 3million with her 3rd gradient once i set up everything.
maelle is more ungabunga, so easy to pull off.

>>720735080
It's easy. The game has no depth to speak of whatsoever and relies entirely on the Parry mechanic for its dopamine. The way you get everyone to do a lot of damage is that you equip everyone with exactly the same Lumina. That's it, that's the trick. Just equip all the +damage Lumina on everyone, and also the Lumina that let them explode and break people and deal damage and then revive at the beginning of battle. Turn every character into the same character and you win. It's that easy.

Verso's attack, something with "Stars" is really good, and Stendahl (a French writer) is really good. The last person is unnecessary, but you can use Sciel to buff the other 2.

>>720729521
This coming from the board that so1s out over life is strange?
>>720730278
This board is full of miserable retards

>>720746347
jason schreier is gonna pop a blood vessel when he sees this.

>>720735080
You kinda just have to start using other skills, some still deal like 3k damage even with 99 stats and a level 20+ weapon

>>720730278
There was a paid shill campaign here for about a month, and it instilled within the "unpaid shills" the notion that anyone who says anything negative about this game at all is a brown third worlder who hasn't played it.

Naturally, when you have this level of cult like ideology within a fanbase, no real discussion can ever occur, so it's just a bunch of shitflinging. There's also "tendie" that gets thrown around occasionally, but that's literally every thread on this website. Actually, /v/ is kinda just like one large shitpost conversation and every thread is practically the same at this point. Whichever video game a thread has the pretense of being about almost doesn't even matter at this point. It's just people saying "I do or don't like thing" and then other people saying "you're a brown tendie"

>>720752086
I haven't projected anything. I'm talking about the way of thinking. If someone has a different opinion, they're stupid, poor, ugly etc.
So, how am I supposed to talk to you, when you believe I'm a zoomer who hasn't played many games, even though I'm 37 years old and playing games since I was 4? When even now, working normally 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, I manage to finish ~100 games a year, so in the past, when I had more time, I could play even more?
All stories have been told already long ago. It's about how you tell it, the context is important.
Also, E33 doesn't tell you "it was all a dream", it lets you decide whether you consider what happened "a dream" or not, hence the two equally good/bad endings.

E33 is the pinnacle not only of video games but of art in general.

Writing? E33 is better written than Moby Dick.
Visuals? EE3 is more beautiful than Sistine Chapel.
Music? I would rather listen to E33's OST than the whole work of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, etc.
Gameplay? You could make a game with Bayonetta combat, Ninja Gaiden Black difficulty, Dark Souls level design, Super Mario 64 platforming, Baba Is You puzzles, Hollow Knight exploration, etc. and i would still rather play E33.

>>720753170
>I'm talking about the way of thinking. If someone has a different opinion, they're stupid, poor, ugly etc.
Yes, the way of thinking employed by the E33 cultists. Like I said.

>>720750937
you do realize that not even norwegians are white by that definition, your aryan (ironically actually jeets) supermen don't exist

>>720753268
This but unironically.

>>720727881 (OP)
Pretty impressive considering its on the game pass thing as well. Good for them.

>>720753170
>Also, E33 doesn't tell you "it was all a dream", it lets you decide whether you consider what happened "a dream" or not, hence the two equally good/bad endings.
What? Are you actually retarded? You're actually retarded aren't you? That would explain a lot.

It *is* "a dream", that's not even up for debate. The game very explicitly infodumps this on you in Act III. The painting (i.e. the entire game) is not real. That's 100% a fact that the game infodumps on you in Act III. If you can't understand it, then you're retarded. Just straight up, if you can't understand one of the easiest to understand and explicit infodumps of a twist in video game history, then you might just be a retard.

So, E33 just *is* "a dream", no matter what. If you don't understand this, you're stupid, and it starts to make sense why you are so cultishly defending it. So now that we got it out of the way that you misunderstood your own game, let me explain to you what you think you're talking about:
The two different endings are whether or not Maelle/Alicia stays in the painting and forces "Verso" to act out the play that she desires to live inside as an escape from reality, *OR* whether you destroy the painting and eschew your escapist tendencies and join the real world with your family and live the less than perfect life that is unpleasant, but is real. Absolutely, without a doubt, the painting is fake in both scenarios, and if you didn't understand it despite the very plain and completely divulged with no pretenses of convolution infodump, you're just retarded. Additionally, if you pay more attention to the game which you definitely did not, the "real" ending might be a "Written" world that Maelle/Alicia likely also created, because there is every hint that she's a "Writer", not a "Painter", but that's a different conversation that surely escaped your feeble grasp and is not actually relevant to this current one we are having.

>>720753881
>its a dream
If you think anybody who actually played the game is reading past that part you must have taken the short bus.

>>720727881 (OP)
>>720728768
they fucking LYING nigga

this game is on fucking GAMESPASS LOL
nobody paid for this shit

>>720727881 (OP)
Is this game actually good? I can play it for free on gamepass.

>>720754040
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream
Well, I actually played the game, and I've actually played many games and read many books and watched many movies, and this same twist is bad every time. That's just what the cop out trope is called. It's not my fault that people who are seemingly brand new to every single form of media don't know about this overplayed trope yet.

If you want to stick your head in the sand like a cultist, you are free to do so. I expect nothing less from E33 shills.

>>720754221
It is good, but both its narrative and its gameplay *completely* fall apart in Act III. The gameplay falling apart is actually an extension of the narrative falling apart, which is kino in its own way, but is still ultimately a negative for me.

It's still worth a playthrough, it is a good game, but it is not nearly as good as its cultists want you to believe. However, if you have never played any other video games before that have an actually passable story, you might mistakenly think it's literally the greatest game of all time.

>>720754221
Yes and yes. Especially if you're not a deranged person with father issues. I've seen a lot of people with daddy issues get upset over act 3.

>>720752581
anon, /v/ is invaded by threads for any big profile game that comes out. you are either a schizo or a newfag if that seems odd to you

>>720754650
Paid shill threads on /v/ don't seem odd to me, I'm just stating that it's something that does happen.

Do you naively disagree? Surely you've encountered at least one game here where you think it's shill activity rather than genuine. You're just choosing to put the blinders on for this one.

>>720754234
It doesn't fit the trope though. Most of the characters are native to the painting and can't exist outside of it, they have nothing to wake up from. The events in the painting still happen. As far as anyone is concerned painters are basically gods who can come into their world and change it but it's not any less real than any other fantasy setting that has different planes of existence.
You make assumptions what is the base level reality you sympathise with but Dessendres don't live in "our" world either and it's not inside their imagination or something. They explicitly have supernatural powers to create worlds through the medium of painting and writers presumably are similar.

>It make 3.3m in 33 days for lucky chinese number expedition 33 trust us gweilo!
chinese astroturf outsourced to the most cucked countries on earth

>>720755298
>It doesn't fit the trope though.
I see that you are not a person capable of having a conversation. That's unfortunate. Oh well.

>Most of the characters are native to the painting and can't exist outside of it, they have nothing to wake up from.
Do you know who Maelle/Alicia is? Did you play the game? I guess you didn't. Weird that you're shilling a game you didn't even play as hard as you are, but I guess the money must be good. I hope you're not doing it for free.

>>720753276
>Yes, the way of thinking employed by the E33 cultists.
And by (You).

>>720753881
The things inside the painting are just as much a dream as the things outside the painting, as far as we're concerned, because both are inside a video game. Relative reality.

>>720755456
>wow I sure loved that game, oh wait it was made using money and korean animators oh no suddenly I hate it
Do you realize how retarded this tactic is?

>>720755541
>"it's quite literally a video game, so actually I'm right"
>"please ignore the part where I misunderstood my own video game that I'm shilling as god's gift to gamers"
You are such a stupid mother fucker. You have no shame either.

>>720755505
Can you stop signing all your posts with your reddit spacing?

>>720753881
>>720754234
>a dream
It wasn't a dream retard. Everything happened.

>>720755757
>reddit spacing
I've been here for ~20 years and I've never been on reddit. You don't even know what reddit spacing is, but I do because I lived through the invasion. I accept your concession though, because if you could actually refute what I said, you would have. Instead you chose to tell me that you're a newfag.

>a well-rounded cast of characters that make the world & its plight feel living & impactful
>huge enemy variety where you'll be encountering new threats until the end
>really fun playstyle, nothing feels more rewarding than parrying a 12 hit combo, then bashing the enemy's teeth in. accompanied with great visuals, movement, camera angles.
>lots of customization in appearance & outfits, skills, loadouts.
>fun side content & characters like the gestrals
>almost all the characters playstyle is unique making each worthwhile to bring along
>cool artistic overworld to roam around. every major location is fun to traverse.
>all this for 50 dollarydoos
there's no competition against the game this year.

4,400,001 as of right now. I just boughted it.

>>720755745
You were talking about projecting. Point me to the place where I'm "shilling" anything "as god's gift to gamers".
And I didn't misunderstand anything either. I know that the game takes place inside a painting. And I understand that it's the player's choice whether they consider what happened inside it worthless, "because it didn't really happen", or not.

>>720735080
There's tons and tons of ways, Maelle is the most obvious because she has the highest multipliers for the least setup (if you have the weapon that starts her in Nuke Mode) but everyone can get it fairly easily. Still, since a lot of characters benefit from a turn of setup (buffs and debuffs or the character specific mechanics like Lune's stains), Cheater (lets you play twice, gotten from the big symbol-headed nevron in the sea between acts 1 and 2) is very useful. Personally I just run one char (usually Monoco) with the kamikaze build (auto death, breaking death, whatever else), then have Verso break on his first turn then End Bringer on the second. You can do similar things with the other chars, build up Lune's stains then consume, Sciel's foretell, etc. But at the end of the day, just stack damage Luminas for a giga alpha strike, all the glass cannon shit. Can't kill you if you one-shot them (or parry everything like you're supposed to).

Esquie is horrid in English

>>720755505
I said most and Maelle/Alicia doesn't fit it either. Painted world was not part of her dream/imagination or anything of the sort. She was an outsider who was reborn having lost her memory, but when she regained it she was still in the world and it still existed and all the events up to that point still happened. This is maybe a form of reincarnation/amnesia thing, not "it was a dream".
The world exists within the painting and will continue unless someone destroys it. You could maybe stretch it that it's kid!Verso's soul but other painters can interact with it regardless and it's just a thing that exist in their world they can go in and out of.

>>720756358
>You were talking about projecting.
Yes. This post >>720751821 describes the rhetoric used if anyone says that thought Act III kills the game. You can scroll up. It has already happened in this thread before I even got here.

>And I didn't misunderstand anything either.
You did, and I explained the way in which you misunderstood the very explicit infodump of your own game that you are shilling as the greatest narrative ever told. Here is where I replied to your post explaining how you misunderstood the ending(s) of your own game: >>720753881

>>720751729
I find it funny people are calling him a nepobaby when he has that shitty setup

>>720756006
Sure thing there zoomie, sure thing.

If you consider lower planes of existence "just a dream"
then everything in every fantasy setting ever made is just a dream. As soon as they have canonical gods in higher planes of existence, all lower existences are "just a dream."
aka you're retarded.

>>720756464
That's not very wheee of you, mon ami

>>720756508
>>720756881
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream
It seems that you, like other naive cultists who have come before you, saw the word "dream", interpreted it literally because you're a E33 shill with no autonomous thought, and now you're trying to prove how the Painted world is not literally a dream. And then there's another deflection argument forming which is seeming to call the fact that it's inside a video game to be "a dream" or to say that all media is "a dream" because it's not real, or maybe even that the real life is "a dream" because we don't know that we aren't in a simulation ourselves. Strange logical leaps.

To be clear, I do not think and am not saying that the Painted world is literally a dream. I can't believe that I need to say this and that you can't just use your brain and understand this, but I'm not saying that the world of E33 takes place inside of a literal dream, nor am I talking about the fact that it takes place inside of a video game as being "a dream" either. I am talking about the narrative inside E33 as it is presented inside the world of E33. I am not talking about anything else except that, and any normal person wouldn't need this to be explained to them. The reveal of E33 is just an overplayed and very bad cop-out trope, and that's what the trope is called or referred to as. "It was all a dream!"

>>720749264
>>a bunch of zoomers and literal paid shills who have never played any other video games in their entire lives run their campaign to attempt to gaslight online video game communities into believe that the game taking place inside of a painting (i.e. a simulated universe) is the deepest, most profound, most meaningful, and best written narrative that has ever deigned itself to grace the gaming medium
It's just a good game you whiny fucking faggot. I liked til the end of time too.

>>720756064
And see how much heated discussion it still induces 5 months later.

>>720756578
That post is describing what you literally did a couple of times in this thread. Calling people "zoomers" because they have a different opinion.
There is nothing in your post that doesn't fit what I said about player's decision to consider it real or not.
But you know what. I'm done trying to "discuss" anything with you. This isn't the first thread I tried. I thought if I just talked calmly without calling you names, maybe you'd calm down too and become able to hold a discussion. But at least thanks to you I finished Popolocrois Monogatari and started replaying Wild Arms 1, so I can't say it was a complete waste of time. Here's a cool webm for the trouble.

>>720750937
>da joos
Yep, you're one of the seething kikes.

You cannot engage with anyone because you're wrong. You link to an article that pretty decisively explains that E33 does not qualify as the trope.
The dream trope requires that the things we saw did not happen.
They DID happen in e33. Ergo it's not the trope.
Paintings are just a lower plane of existence. You know, like middle earth?

>>720757558
You aren't smart enough to pretend to be having the conversation that you're pretending to have.

>The dream trope requires that the things we saw did not happen.
The Painted world is not real. Did you play the game at all? You can say "no".

>They DID happen in e33.
...that's what the trope is. The trope is that a bunch of stuff happens, like Acts I and II of E33, then at the end you say "haha just kidding! it's not real! you're in a dream! it's time to leave the painting Alicia" just like Act III did in E33. What are you not understanding? Are you even attempting to understand?

>>720752313
On my first playthrough I used dodge almost exclusively, gave Verso skills to buff his free aim shots/base attacks, Maelle was the + damage person for big single hits, and Lune had a bunch of ones that enhanced her abilities. Completely different builds outside of some common sense ones like painter power/cheater. Just because you can opitmally break the post game doesn't mean people won't find fun builds leading up to the end.

>>720757908
>it's not real! you're in a dream!
>E33 hater has an IQ of 33
K I N O

>>720752581
>There's also "tendie" that gets thrown around occasionally
odd that that in particular offends you enough to need to mention it :)

>>720752086
>"it was all a dream"
kek you're an actual retard. The canvas was not a dream.

The real meme magic will be E33 LOSING GOTY.

>>720757270
>That post is describing what you literally did a couple of times in this thread. Calling people "zoomers" because they have a different opinion.
All you did is say "no u" a bunch while ignoring every post that proved me right. Weird copes.

>>720727881 (OP)
Just ordered a copy today.
It better be good and not full of faggot shit.

>>720755456
>Kepler takes millions from "china"
>uses it to "astroturf" exactly one game and ignores the other ones it published
Are the chinese in the room with us now anon?

>someone alerted the discord that E33 was under attack
>they're still hung up on the literal interpretation of the word "dream"
kek

>>720756645
wasn't that whole family tree post bogus? the plebbitor couldn't prove guillame was related to those rich people. just that they had same last name. could be randoms.

>The Painted world is not real.
In the exact same way that middle earth is not real. In the exact same way as earth isn't real according to most religions.
You're fucking retarded mate. The dream trope requires a rug-pull in that the events you saw did not take place.
E33 does not satisfy this condition because the events did take place. They happened. Three people can come out of the painting with the exact same recollection of the events that transpired.
If it were a "dream" that couldn't be.
It's a lower plane of existence. It's not "not real."

>>720756064
Is... Is that ANY complement for the Expedition 33 I see? Why are YOU personally LITERALLY saying it's the best game ever and that everything else is dogshit? CULTIST.

>>720757215
Nigger you can't even read your own links. For "It was just a dream" it's not enough for it to just be revealed as a pocket dimension. It specifically means the events shown never happened because they were part of a characters dream/imagination/hallucination/delusion. None of the examples are anywhere close to the situation in the game. The painting is independent of any specific character who can come in and out. It "exists" in some sense.

>"Actually, all fantasy is 'just a dream' because none of it's real"
Bravo, cultists, bravo.

>>720756064
>>a well-rounded cast of characters that make the world & its plight feel living & impactful
Mary Sue hapa and the miscarriage slut
>>really fun playstyle, nothing feels more rewarding than parrying a 12 hit combo, then bashing the enemy's teeth in. accompanied with great visuals, movement, camera angles.
dvd menu simulator with QTEs
>>lots of customization in appearance & outfits, skills, loadouts.
Lumina point farming and spam
>>almost all the characters playstyle is unique making each worthwhile to bring along
Lune and Monoco are garbo
>>all this for 50 dollarydoos
Silksong was $20

>>720757908
>The Painted world is not real.
Yes it is. It's simply created. It's artificial, not fictional, it's an actual place that the painters can go to. Essentially a pocket dimension. This isn't a complex concept, it's baffling that you can't understand it. Try taking a break and thinking about it.

>>720758393
>don't know what something means, say it anyways
>be told you're wrong, have a melty
many such cases

>>720758708
>>720758834
>>720758943
>retard is still hung up on the literal interpretation of the word "dream"
Very, very sad and easily avoidable.

>>720727881 (OP)
Dragon Quest 3 remake sold less than half of this. Fuck Square Enix.

>>720758726
No, it's you who should be appreciated for wasting your life talking about a game you don't like in every thread about it, trying to convince others that what they think is good is actually bad and that they didn't actually have fun, and all that just to bump these threads.

>>720758726
A dream takes place inside of a character's head. Other independent intelligences separate from the dream do not interact with and cannot experience the dream. Multiple people that exist outside of the canvas enter simultaneously, interact with each other, and influence the world that existed before and continues to exist independent of their minds. I know this is difficult for you because you do not possess a mind.

>>720758979
holy shit I was in one of these threads months ago and I think I saw you making these same shitposts about not wanting your usage of a literary term taken literally. I really applaud your dedication, carry on.

>"it was all a dream"
>...but E33 doesn't take place inside a dream, it takes place inside of a painting
Checkmate atheists.

>Hey Alicia remember I tried to take your mother out of the painting and she locked me in a dungeon for a hundred years? That shit was wild huh?
>NUH UH DAD IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IT WAS JUST A DREAM
Three people can't have the same dream. You're retarded. The events transpired.

>>720758979
>it's not LITERALLY a dream
Yeah, and therefore the situation has implications vastly different from it if were literally a dream.
>>720759249
>but I did have breakfast this morning
stop posting selfies nigger

>>720746347
The writer is half-Chinese and half-Jew by the way

>>720759484
I'll engage with you honestly, despite my better judgment. What do you think a dream is?

>>720753881
This is stupid. The Canvas and everything in it is created by the Dessandres, but they're not "dreams", the people in there still have personalities, thoughts, dreams, they are born and live and die like anyone else. There's functionally no difference between a citizen of Lumiere and one of Paris, and this fact is discussed by several characters (who, it goes without saying, are all equally fictitious).

>>720758979
>A twist where it is revealed previous events in the story were just part of a character's dream, hallucination or some other escape from reality, often put at the end to reveal the entirety of the story was some sort of dream.
It's not a dream or hallucination, there's the "escape from reality" but even if you try to stretch that one it obviously doesn't mean the situation in the game because the painting exists independently of any character and they can interact with each other inside of it.
If you read your links and checked the examples you'd see it's not applicable here.

>dream
>/drēm/
>noun
>noun: dream; plural noun: dreams
>1.
>a series of thoughts, images, and sensations occurring in a person's mind during sleep.
Yup. Checkmate atheists. E33 is not "just a dream" because it's a painting, not a dream.

>>720759823
>it's not a dream because dream means something else entirely
Glad you figured it out.

>>720740426
Because you say so, commie.

>>720739653
Does the publiser makes the game?

>>720727881 (OP)
>>720728351
at least i beat metaphor. i quit e33 near the end once i reached the woman

>>720759941
That's right. The trope "it was all a dream" can only possibly describe an actual literal dream, and since E33 does not take place inside of a literal dream world, we win and actually that proves it was the greatest story ever told. It's that simple. Checkmate.