Thread 721054038

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>>721054342
>Impossible Tier: making money
>Never gonna happen Tier: making profit

All I can think is how I wouldn't be able to make shit if I wasn't making a meme game that doesn't require original art assets

>>721054038 (OP)
Thanks for a new one. The other one is...quick post actual progress before the brigade swamps their way on

>>721054342
>extremely easy: ideas
Having good ideas belongs in @!#?@! tier

>>721054342
>Online Multiplayer
Fuck you. Netcode belongs in S++ tier.

>>721055248
That should be baby tier at the bottom meaning you start with multi-player first. Implementing it afterwards is full retard.

No fytroon allowed.

>>721057552
Is this skaterphobic

>>721057552
Skateboards are harder to use than anything that comes after it in this pic.

I'm still mapping

>>721057684
fagoon is report on sight for me now, I've had it with his faggotry

>>721054342
>elevators, moving platforms, doors, ladders, stairs, configurable gamepads separate from and on a different tier than programming

>wake up
>check gamedev thread
>be horrified

Well I did some rigging, I'll try to make some basic animations today.

woke up brewed some coffee and implemented gameplay statistics in the game manager
next up health and weapons UI

I couldnt sleep. No more pain pills so I stir in pain. Since then I imported the dragon into the game as a full skeletal mesh with a simple flying animation. I got spooked at the end, I forgot my old boss had a walking animation and this behemoth goes right for me

>24 days until NextFest
The amount of waiting that happens with a FINISHED game is ridiculous. I just want my review count.

>>721059003
>I couldnt sleep. No more pain pills so I stir in pain.
I read this in Max Payne's voice.
Man your game is shaping up real nice, but I wonder if it might look better with a splash of color somewhere. It's a bit... grey and brown? A bit monotone? Maybe that's your goal, but it could catch the eye a bit better with just a hint somewhere.

Are there any RECENT games that didn't do well on release, and it took them at least a year before being noticed and finally seeing some success?
Last example I can think of is Among Us, and that's obviously due to covid. Can this happen without people being locked in their houses?

>>721059256
Fear and Hunger 1 afaik.
Also Brigand Oaxaca if you count that.
It happens but don't bet on it

>Walks in
>Wins
Ohnonononono, publisherfag what is your defense?

In Unreal, is it better to do first person via a separate first person mesh or first person via a funny camera placement bound to the third person model?

>>721059540
>AI header art
shan't be buying

>>721059224
You might be right, it is kinda starting to look that way and that isnt only due to the webm compression. I can change it via the skylight and post processor volume in the world. Ill mess with it some and see if it improves it.

>>721059736
It's very unlikely to be AI

>>721059736
>t. goons to ai futa porn

>>721060045
the expressions look pretty unique but the color palette is very AI-coded

>>721060109
>projecting
I goon to human-made futa thank you very much

>>721060109
>>721060160
Now now there's enough futa cock for both of you to share

>>721060160
This post is very faggot/reddit-coded

https://x.com/famitsu/status/1968872912074821944

How do I make a game with this much soul?

>>721059731
Good question, 100% flip between. It is vastly easier to possess 2 pawns with 1 camera with two hard fixed positions than trying to move the camera without it looking weird because of the proportions. You would have the 1st person pawn always behind the camera when in 3rd person mode so you never see it by mistake.

He used AI voice acting in his game! He must be stopped!

You wouldn't leave a goblin alone on page 10 would you?

>>721054342
wtf is tech art?

>>721066247
Technical art, like shaders and stuff

lel learning and tinkering with ui is fun
mind you i know this isnt remotely presentable at all

>>721057552
Thing is.
Every stage in the bottom row is a finished product, that can be shipped, sold and appreciated by specific targeted audience. On the top is a stages of building one product.

>>721054342
Also, how the fuck is animation is harder than game design? Its very straightforward working pipeline with almost no wiggle ground. You can't make a mistake in animation, because it would be caught by anyone, so you will fix it on the production stage, and everything else is very flexible in its approach so, it's actually hard to do right.

>>721059540
293 reviews
>WE ALL ARE GOING TO MAKE IT

>>721066761
The top just makes you miserable however.
It works in AAA dev, but for indies it's a trap.

Expanding her moveset. The divekick stolen from castlemania is intended to help in situations where you helplessly get contact damaged from jumping into an enemy but there's a few fun interactions since it's still technically tagged as sword damage. Will probably need to have a think about balance because now melee is too strong (and fun) on its own rather than using resources to shoot things. Or maybe figure out an upgrade system idk
>>721058373
Hey I think I've seen you around somewhere... wink

>>721058197
It's not about using them.

>>721066761
>Every stage in the bottom row is a finished product, that can be shipped, sold and appreciated by specific targeted audience. On the top is a stages of building one product.
The point of the pic is to start with smaller projects you can finish and then gradually move to more impressive and complex projects using the experience you've accumulated. The top are the people who go with their "dream game" immediately as their first ever project with zero experience.

>>721066116
im curious
have you retopo'ed this model
or did you just hop straight into rigging it after sculpting

>>721054342
>legal
>easy
yeah I'm sure it is if you fucking hire a lawyer for it, but if that were the case then everything except good ideas goes in extremely easy because you're not the one doing it

>>721055248
netcode is so simple though

>>721058629
once you actually start working on your game, you'll understand why certain aspects of programming are easier than others

>>721073593
all of these are a subset of programming

>>721071337
I did not use sculpting, just subdivision surface modifier, but yes I did just start rigging without a care for consequences. How bad have I fucked up?

>>721074193
depends
you might experience some rendering and animation issues with your model
whats the poly count
how many faces and vertices does it have
btw there are some plugins for quick retopology

>>721075102
>btw there are some plugins for quick retopology
Not him but which ones
and also can I ask something about topology, should I try to avoid edge loops that go all the way across a model for a long distance? Like for example if I were to vert loop cut a finger on the hand, it should NOT go all the way around the whole damn body, right? If so, what's a good way to do that?

>>721075102
About 27k vertices and faces. I was concerned it's a bit high since it's significantly more than most other models I've made, but it hasn't been an issue so far.
I'll post a webm with the goblins in action in a moment.

>>721075245
>Like for example if I were to vert loop cut a finger on the hand, it should NOT go all the way around the whole damn body, right? If so, what's a good way to do that?
if i understand you correctly then yeah thats an issue
you should look up on how to isolate geometry in certain areas and the patterns to achieve it
theres a bunch of tut videos about it out there
btw im not a pro just in case
im as much a beginner as you and just know a little bit

>>721070809
this looks really good, is it a fast paced traditional castlevania/ninja gaiden?

>>721074170
and certain subsets are both more specific and thus easier to label, and easier to program, than others

>>721075543
Hungry goblins trying to eat you

>>721054038 (OP)
One I actually have a part of my VN made and playable in renpy, is there anywhere I can post it to be played and seen by people?

>>721077215
I think the easiest way would be to export it as a web game and get it onto an itch io page so no one has to download anything.

>>721054342
Putting localisation in hard is hilariously retarded given that most engines have made it as easy as possible and if you're not using an engine you just need to send an event to everything with strings to display text based on it's key. The hardest part about localisation is the UI sizing.

Tutorials and level design shouldnt be in easy. Level design is filling out content based on game design, mechanics and goals and tutorials are only easy if you're making them boring to interact with and not interactive turning them into a game design challenge.

>>721075869
That was the intent yeah. I initially had fixed jump arcs but realized that would kinda suck if I wanted bullet hell elements.

>>721070809
neat, I really like your game

spent some more time last night working on the sheath, need to make some adjustments to the animation so it doesn't look like the sword is going through the sheath. Also reworked the shield a little bit, replacing a texture that was already used on the knight's model so it's less monotonous.
>>721077078
hell yeah look at them go. I'd recommend looking into flock behaviors and boids so they don't stick together that much. Did that for my goblins and thank to that they look like they move as a group and are even able to surround you instead of forming a beeline.
>>721070809
very cool, Touhou bros sure are talented.

>>721078695
Looks good. I recommend doing what the guys at HAL Labs did with Link's sword and shrink the sword's blade as it enters the scabbard so it doesn't look like it's clipping.

>>721078695
Looking good. Getting the sheathing animation just right can be a pain. Most games don't use scabbards at all for this very reason, or just get it to a "good enough" point.

I have been meaning to deal with flocking behaviour eventually. At the moment I'm making them occasionally pick a destination to the side of the player, to simulate that behaviour. But it's much too random now, sometimes it seems they don't do it at all, sometimes they just run around, and once in a while they appear to actually surround the player. On the plus side right now they have a goofy, erratic behaviour that feels very goblinlike.

>>721079236
This you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftXVzFrg1k

>>721070809
Oh shit I haven't seen anything from you in ages since the Meira webm you shared back in 2022.
Fukken great progress. Do you have an itch or some sort to follow?

>>721078695
>This took so long to make that I need it to be $25 to justify all the time I poured in :(
I already know how this ends. Never pay more than $20 for a computer game.

Time to abandon thread

>>721079236
>shrink the sword's blade as it enters the scabbard
damn good idea. I'll try that, thanks!
>>721079429
>Most games don't use scabbards at all for this very reason
yeah and I hate it lol. I don't like floating swords so I don't mind going through the pain, at least for the main character.
>flocking
for now, I'd just make it so they walk forward, rotate towards where they want to go but also modify that rotation vector to get away from other gobbos (substract direction vector).

Aggy has all of this and we just have 3 bad games...

>>721080957
No problem. A shame the schizoids have returned.

>>721076206
yes, and that has nothing to do with taking out arbitrary programming subjects out of programming, probably based on internet memes like "omg slopes are hard to code"
someone wanted to look smart and made himself look retarded instead, many such cases

>>721081454
>MFW the faggerdagger grifter doesn't realize who's invaded in the upper left hand corner

>>721080957
>modify that rotation vector to get away from other gobbos
I think I get it, but I'm not sure how to do that here. I'm using unity's navmesh agents to make them move, which already causes them to avoid each other. If one agent is in front of another it will try to walk around it.
Just did a quick test with a higher value for the radius of obstacle avoidance though, looks better already.
I need to fine-tune the AI for sure. I have various systems in place to make the goblins try to circle around, retreat, and find good positioning, but I don't have any logic behind their choices, it's just random.

>>721081773
>which already causes them to avoid each other. If one agent is in front of another it will try to walk around it.
oh really, that's great. Godot's shittier in that regard since afaik all the avoidance does is allowing agents to push each other out of the way. Glad you got it sort it out, can't wait to see more of those gobbers of yours.

>>721079936
>2022
Holy fuck it's already been that long... to be fair I have enormous hiatuses
I have a xitter with nothing: https://x.com/shar_gamedev and just made an itch https://shar-dev.itch.io/
Getting closer to a demo (the level from this webm + the meira fight as a challenge bonus) so you might see some activity when that happens

>>721081454
my character not there. go fuck yourself

>>721081454
where is the blue running kid? He posts most progress here

>>721077471
Where do you export it as a web game?

>>721082841
I really shouldn't have to do this for you cause I don't even use this engine. Bookmark your docs https://www.renpy.org/doc/html/web.html

Don't die on me now

>>721085208
those threads suck on weekends because all the schizo kids are here being retards

Testing some improvements to goblin swarming.
Also added headtracking

>>721085712
you got it man, looks great! already better than mine lol

>>721064239
I replied earlier
>>721054207
Didn't understand what you were asking.


The actual Tengu form is the second stage. He takes off his mask and transforms into the monster form Tengu. I'm not sure about the hat though.

finished Tengu attack

>>721086557
Looks sick. You make pixels look liquid, it's so smooth.

>>721071083
>The top are the people who go with their "dream game" immediately as their first ever project with zero experience.
>Northern Journey
Just approach gamedev as a serious project with perceivable scope.

>>721086493
are you designing the yokai after nioh designs?

>>721086557
you gotta add a nure Onna

>>721086557
very cool, always thought those samurai masks with the long nose looked kino

>>721087020
How cringe of you to try and deform a game as cool as Reinbo with your disgusting fetishes.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be waiting for the Bake-Danuki to be added in.

>>721058863
Will he have a dick?

making a game that requires wearing gloves

that's all for the scabbard and the animation. Added a trail when pulling it out for some extra kino. Also, Fygoon's trick of playing around with the scale of the weapon to avoid it going through the scabbard worked great, so thanks for that!

>>721086717
>>721087196

thanks


>>721086868
no, google images. Idea was human form wear festival style masks. Then they get more monstrous yokai forms as second stages. Ripping off the Vizard/Arrancar from Bleach.

>>721087020
in the future maybe, seems simple enough as a mob enemy

>>721087751
still finishing up the animations but it's going to be the 4th stage boss

>>721089930
>Ripping off the Vizard/Arrancar from Bleach.
I thought that design was common to japanese mythos. Remember fighting those dudes in some Goemon game.

>>721089601
smear looks great

I would turn the torso abit though when pulling it out instead of staying fully front

>>721089601
Looks great. Glad to hear the fix I saw on a Youtube video where some guy was yapping about "Secrets You Might Not Know About Zelda" helped.
>>721090014
Glad to see Rigboner over there remains. I like poking fun at my older sister (she's the opposite of me when it comes to Japan) with the fact Japanese mythology just randomly includes a raccoon dog with giant testicles; as much as I rag on them, it's about as based as the ancient Egyptians having Babi, a baboon god who just chills with a boner.

Longsword-type weapons (falcatas and the Vorpal Reaver) can now be used in such a way that Fygoon turns into a spinning whirlwind of death.

>>721090025
idk, I know the masks themselves are common. It's mostly just the full yokai forms being sealed in the masks. After the player defeats them they can take the masks for themselves to use the powers like Megaman

>400+ new plays
>0 new sales
>0 new comments other than spam links to adult websites

>>721078695
UI reminds me of dragons dogma

>getting into gamedev with no experience
>decide to make every element from scratch
>brain is like, "We should full-on body tackle a complex multiplayer project that will require complex visuals and highly-detailed models."
>looking for a good enemy aesthetic
>brain is like, "Let's base them on one of the most legendarily difficult creatures in the history of 3d animation."
My plan to have a basic prototype of something done by Halloween is increasingly looking less and less likely, but all moping does is set me back even further.

>>721092185
just do a basic platformer first

>>721091434
it is what it is man. Just yesterday I got a bump in visit but for some reason most of them were on a previous game and not the current one. lmao, I guess.
>>721091973
the bottom right part? yeah I straight copied that from DD. The game is sort of inspired by it, at least the combat and some other aspects. Now pawns tho.

>>721092185
I think we've all been there. Good luck bro.
I do think it's good experience to try to do more than you are really capable of. You'll find the the road blocks much faster than if you start with something small, simple, but uninteresting.
If you have room to fail, trying something hard is going to teach you a lot. But doing something easy will let you learn the very basics first, which is obviously helpful too.
Do what makes you happy.

I recently realized how easy it is to just make a clone of something. When you clone a design that works, it just works, and you expand on it. When you try to change something about it, all of a sudden you have 10 different ideas and options and I get choice paralysis and give up.

>>721090114
glad you like it anon. I'd love to try that suggestion but sadly, the way I have the sheath animation blend with the rest of the body doesn't allow me to move the body while executing it. Reason is that I allow that animation to play when standing still but also while moving, so I have to filter out the body out of the animation, respecting the body of the idle/run animation instead.
>>721092185
start with something small. I went with a mix of Nuclear Throne and DOOM with a knight that could deflect shots with his sword.
>>721093629
agreed. There's no need to reinvent the wheel, just make something fun to play.

>>721093629
As the guy from >>721092185, I can say that it's easy to make a jank-ass clone of something. I've been monkeying with variables and rebuilding the same basic set of functions for the last three weeks trying to get it to work properly and feel good. It's sort of my comfort project, as everything beyond that one core bit of the project is unknown and frightening. And I now remember how many iterations and how much grug work it took to get that one thing how I basically like it. I made the same thing a dozen times experimenting with different approaches until it felt right.
The choice paralysis thing, though? For me it's less choice paralysis and more competency paralysis. "Huh, this might be fun. Let's see how I'd do this." turns into 150 Youtube videos, 20 arguments with AI, the algorithm recommending me videos showing every time someone has already done that idea better than my initial idea...

>>721054342
this is me

>>721094045
you make me feel hopeless, it took me months to make a similar game like that and it completely lacks the oomph yours has

>>721094536
You only have one boss left to beat. Yourself.

>>721094727
>you make me feel hopeless
I was hoping for the opposite lol. The oomph is just some basic hitstop and screenshake, I bet you would be able to implement that without any trouble. It's just that before making that I played a lot of Nuclear Throne, so I knew how I wanted the game to feel and how to make it. Also followed the rule of "if the bullets seem weak, make them bigger" which turned out to be a good idea.
>>721094728
kino post

>>721094980
I'm not a fan of the screen shake but your game play has a dinamicity that mine somehow still lacks.
Although now I see that you took a more gameplay first experience while I'm wasting time trying to make the environments look. If there's one thing I should learn is that I got to invest more time in setting up the traps and combat situations

watching a team that fucked you over get sympathy sales from reddit is infuriating

>>721095590
I love the look of your game but I have to agree in that it doesn't look very fun to play (but it could). My two cents:
>add big muzzleflashes for player and enemies
>the sprite for when a bullet dissappear when hitting an enemy or wall is super weak, barely visible at time
>add some movement to the player. My game improved a lot when I added the knight's cape, which seems like a small detail but the more visual feedback you give to the player, the better
>speaking of feedback, add some blood or particles coming out of the enemies when they get hit
>more feedback: animate the enemies bullets. In my game they went from red-yellow to kinda purple, making them very easy to spot.
>way more subjective but I'm not a fan of how your player shoots: very fast and very weak. My take is that making Cirno here shoot slower but making each shot count more would make the game more fun. That said, I'm not into Touhou so maybe Cirno's thing is shooting fast? Dunno.

>>721095908
Tell us what happened

>>721096091
thank you that's extremely good feedback, I'll try to incorporate some.
I'm still figuring out how to balance the shooting, the one you are seeing is the starter weapon that shoots really fast but is very weak and becomes slower the lower the charge it has, there are other weapons like shotguns and repeaters that run on ammo but I still have no idea how to balance them.
Perhaps the starter weapon shouldn't shoot that fast, killing anything with it is supposed to be a chore

>>721095590
forgot one thing: make the shadow of player and enemies more visible, right now it's like they are floating above the scenery

>>721096312
I'm having trouble doing shadows in an efficient way (or even round to begin with), it's also hard to determine at what height bullets are (but I try to always keep them at the same height) and adding shadows to them completely lags the game, so that's one thing I left for later

HOW DO I GET UNITY TO RENDER GRASS IN A SINGLE DRAWCALL INSTANCING JUST BREAKS AT 1023 LITTLE BLADE AAAAAAAAHH

>>721096596
works on my machine

>>721096286
DOOM 16 had a weak ass pistol. DOOM Eternal didn't and instead let the player start the game with a shotgun. My take from that is that people that know way more about game design than me decided that having useless weapons in your roster is a waste.
>balance the weapons
I'd focus on making them fun to use first, you can always tweak the numbers later.
>>721096524
I'd just add them to the player and npcs. Good luck with that, your 2D seems very low-res and I can see making a decent circle with those limitations a pain.

>>721096802
The game is actually 3D with 2D sprites, but I limited bullets to a 2D plane so they will never move vertically unless they are shot from a higher platform, but the ortographic isometric camera messes up with perception a lot, I still have to figure out a good way to setup environment shadows

>>721097009
did you get to update Trenchbroom? there are brush shapes now like cones and cilinders, shit's nuts.
>I still have to figure out a good way to setup environment shadows
why not just place some lights around and bake a lightmap?

been fiddling around with the UI all day
those small aha moments are all worth it

>>721097147
I made a circular boss room
>>721097147
>bake a lightmap
that sounds like an idea I'll explore eventually, I just have way too much to do before that. First I definitely want to improve bullets feedback

>>721097259
very cool! hbox or slider?
>>721097324
cool boss room. Damn I can't believe how easy making circles is now, before I would need to look up that stuff in YouTube lmao.
>lightmaps
it's a few button presses, nothing complicated. But you are right in leaving that for later. Good luck with your game anon, I'll bet you'll be able to make it very fun to play.

>>721096092
Underpaid, overworked, had my art belittled and shit on even though even the negative reviews said it was the only thing good in the game. Worked crunch, they don't take any criticism well, any negative feedback is just "trolls, don't do anything in the trailer and instead add random shit nobody asks for, go on reddit and blame the long development time on the animator even though there are fucking years of unused assets the programmer does fuck all with. They literally killed any creativity I had and burned me out.

it's pretty ironic that "ideas guys" get so much hate in gamedev when the only game that has any progress in this thread is a blond guy fighting monsters with sword and shield (both carried on his back!), using items from a secondary directional input, and with his health measured in red diamonds (not hearts, diamonds!!) and a green magic meter.

>>721097608
>very cool! hbox or slider?
slider with a some configurations and additional layered components
chewed through a bunch of tutorials to find how to find some answers on how to do this
its also necessary because i have some pretty crazy ideas for the UI and UIs overall later on

>>721098269
Seethe about it more, faggot with no skills. You had your whole lifetime to get good at something and you chose not to. Now start larping about how you're actually an expert in some field, give us a chuckle.

>>721098269
as I said here: >>721094045
>There's no need to reinvent the wheel, just make something fun to play
sure my game isn't original, but I never meant for it to be. I just wanted a game that feels like classic 3D Zelda (which nobody wants to make) mixed with some Dragon's Dogma (which nobody wants to make). As professor Fink from The Simpsons said, sometimes the best inventions are just mixing components of things that already exist.

I'm thinking about changing the format of v3 going forward.
>Keep skits around 3-4 minutes
>Rapid fire 15-20 seconds of game footage from each game back to back like how sage does it
>Do like three or four skits with three or four game dumps
>Two interviews around 5 minutes
>Require everyone to make a booth and a demo (receiving time by not having to make a trailer so you can spend it on the other things)
>Demos are available to be downloaded from the site after the main show is done
>The full list of participating games is not released until the show is over.
>Include awards for Best in show, most anticipated
>Have streamers restream the show and playing the games and create a "press package" for the show

What do you guys think?

>>721098269
Consider this: I like playing more of the things I like.
I liked Bloodstained and I can tell I'm going to like the Touhouvania guy's game.

finished

>>721094178
>my initial idea
yup, here's the problem, you didnt have one. you didnt have an idea. you had a representation of some other media you consumed. but no idea.

>>721098789
the animation is well done, but how about adding a little bit more of spilled water so it's more noticeable in game?
>>721098653
sounds cool, but I wouldn't include an award section.

>>721098636
>>721098718
that doesnt make the phenomenon any less of an irony. it just goes to show the factual contradiction underlying it, which is that the kind of person who can learn these skills probably isn't very creative

>>721098895
Well the awards would be gifted after the show. I probably should have specified that but it would be something that like the recipients could put on their steam page as like a "best in show" banner.

muy bueno

>>721099005
causation does not equal correlation

>>721098447
i dont really have anything to prove to you, but it's interesting that you read "seethe" from the observation of an irony which, i dont think it's disputable, is in fact ironic. but go ahead and dispute whether its an irony or not: that people who CAN make games, DONT have good ideas for them; and conversely that people who CAN have good ideas, cant MAKE them.

>>721099159
thanks for the non-sequitur, have a (You)

>>721099195
please anon, see >>721099159

>>721099281
i didnt imply any causation, in fact, since im talking about "contradictions" we're not even really dealing in facts, mainly just speculating. i dont really see how the concept of irony implies a cause one way or the other

>>721099195
>immediate backpedal
Leave the thread, honey.

>>721099119
I don't want to alarm you, but the text is upside down.

>>721086493
>I replied earlier
>Didn't understand what you were asking.
No worries mate, my earlier comment got hijacked by the niggerfaggot and I didn't know if >>721054207 was you or not.
>idk. It's supposed to be endgame boss, not sure the hat and sandals make him more menacing.
>The actual Tengu form is the second stage. He takes off his mask and transforms into the monster form Tengu. I'm not sure about the hat though.
Tokin hat and tengu geta (single slab, not two) are commonly associated with Tengu. You don't HAVE to include them, ultimately the choice is yours, I just wanted to make sure you are aware of them or not.
Don't want to impose anything, but imho the human form + geta and tengu form + tokin-only seems nice. Honestly this response sums it up: >>721064924
>weebs will not be able to tell the difference, it's easier to milk the cattle by putting in as little effort into historical accuracy as possible

>>721099558
721064924 here, I was being rude on purpose, sorry.

>>721099547
we have a bat in the thread!

>>721098653
>v3
when is the next one scheduled?

>>721099535
what's the backpedal? maybe its from the point you imagined i was making. but maybe read the post, before replying to it next time? it's just good etiquette for your fellow posters.

and, the only factual statement i could backpedal on, was that the sword-and-shield guy has good progress. but why would i? he does.

>>721099547
oh I know
thats how its displayed in the isolated viewport
it displays differently in game

Here's the Trollglodyte Falcata's 40 Below McHavoc-and-Malice attack in action. Frankly, this weapon went from being my least favorite to one of my most. Honestly, I am happy with how the weapons have turned out in my game, as they each have their own use cases:
>Arming Swords are fast and allow you to use the Energy Buckler
>Maces, while much slower, can allow you to stun enemies and, when used in conjunction with Arming Swords, can quickly mow down armored foes
>Fire-Breathing Techniques can incinerate unarmored enemies, melt seemingly invincible ice enemies, and can light lamps, but is completely ineffective against armored enemies and creatures made of abiotic material
>Longswords are seemingly slower, more powerful versions of the Arming Swords, but Fygoon's inexperience allows him to think outside the box and whirl it around like a mad top
>Throwing Chakrams are like Fire-Breathing Techniques but use its own unique "ammo" and causes physical damage to enemies
>The Daimon Cannon just massacres everything (it's the Jabberwock Eye Staff mixed with the Thunderbolt) and as such can only be earned by the greatest of warriors
All in all, I like it.

>>721099802
December then June for the main shor

>>721100672
nice! Hopefully I'll have something to show this time, if I'm allowed ofc

>>721098795
Yep. Still don't have an original idea or a solid foundation driving what I'm trying to do. No idea how to even form such a thing other than conglomerating other things I like.

>>721101171
you need to form a guiding touchstone that transcends everything so completely that its a little mysterious even to you.

>>721101063
>if I'm allowed ofc
lmao you too?

>>721101434
The creative side is forever frustrated by the sheer abundance of systems I need to learn how to implement.

>>721101947
Have you considered just implementing the systems instead of whining about it on the internet?

>>721102064
Have you?

>>721101629
???

>>721101629
The difference is I don't know who the other guy is and I'm actually willing to let him participate.

>>721101947
dont implement them. fix your idea.

the example i will give is like, rpg maker dev... if everyone only ever made a rpg maker game with customized tilesets unique to the title, no one would ever get anything done. so instead, people scope their project - the fix their idea - such that it CAN be done using things they can either buy (rtp content, dlcs, plugins) or get for free (download tilesets, art, plugins...) from others who already did the leg work.

idk how it is in other "real" engines, but you didnt really Have An Idea yet, if it isn't scoped to something (You) can actually achieve in a realistic timeframe (a year, a month?) - considering what "systems" (You) need to implement, and what ground has been tread by stuff on the shelf, is part of fixing and having your idea.

free will is supposed to deform and deflect from its pure origin when it collides with reality. children think it is a bug but it is actually a feature.

>>721102305
Consider this more ominous possibility: >>721100214

>>721094045
>There's no need to reinvent the wheel, just make something fun to play.
Yeah but the problem is that I got to the point where I realized "this is just the game I'm apeing". I got to the point that my game was just a clone with a different coat of paint, instead of something unique that takes inspiration from it. It's fine for a gamejam or something, but not for something where I wanna express myself.
So now I'm reworking some parts of it.

>>721102704
Sounds like you are just retarded, try finishing a project first and then start waxing philosophy.

>>721103048
I've made a dozen shitty games already for jams and whatnot.

>>721103226
If you participated in even one game jam and you still haven't learned that no idea is ever truly original then you are 100% retarded and should let someone else make directorial decisions for your projects.

>>721103652
That's not what I'm saying.
I came to a realization that my game is literally 90% a copy. It's made up of 4 major systems, and 3 of them were just a copy of the game I was inspired by. I didn't feel that what I'm making is "my game", just "that game but with X", to the point. So now I'm changing it up so it's more unique, and of course it's not that easy.
>what's wrong with just a copy.
That'd be fine for a jam game or something, but I want to put this one on Steam.

>>721104012
Even if your game is 100% a copy of another people will still play it if it has a different artstyle that the game it copies. Its literally the meme of "Holy shit, two cakes!"

>>721101947
that is the hardest part when starting any project: getting all the systems down so you can make the game. most often devs (even AAA) just hardcode everything. the only thing you can do is face the anxiety of it and power through, you will get there sooner or later

>>721104012
By itself it's not inherently bad to be a copy, but you need to give people a reason to play your game over the original.
In AAA that reason might be better graphics, but you won't get it. For trendchasers or nostalgia bait it's that people already played the original and want more of it. It can work, but you really need to have the right timing.
What can you offer? What are you passionate about? What do you DISlike about the original and how would you fix it? E33 is a JRPG full of French art, can you express your local culture through a game? Maybe some non-gaming passion you can use, some specific art style or weird tech, etc.

Find that hook and think how you can integrate it into the existing game, that will create something original after some iteration.

>>721094045
this looks cool, how long did it take you to make it?

Alright so simmering on it just a little bit here's what I'm thinking of:
>Anyone can participate regardless of playability. They must submit 15 to 30 seconds of your best gameplay footage to be in the show. The trailers can be marked as "In Production, Coming Soon (with a release date), Demo Out, or Out Now".
>Trailers will be ran in-between skits as per usual.
>Foregoing interviews, we will be replacing them with "extended spotlights" where we handpick two or three games to specifically highlight with a longer section about a minute to 3 minutes long overviewing their game.
>Afterwards, those who have submitted demos "Demo out" they will be available on our site.
>(1) Game will be awarded an icon for best in show for them to display on their socials/steam page, etc.
Thoughts?

I've been doing some event queue stress testing, launching 20,000+ A* pathfinding spells from several game clients, or 20,000+ active monster spawns with pathfinding. Pretty much wrapped up there, now I am working on despawn (or pausing) monster tick if no players are in any nearby regions. Since I have remote workers in place, I wondered if it would be worth it to continue to simulate those monsters on workers, outside of the actual tick. But that is future me's problem to contend with and I don't know him.

Reasons why I hate furfags:
>1. They made the idea of talking animals weird
>2. They are analogous to diddlers because they take something that should be innocent and corrupt them
>3. They are very volatile, especially when you post pictures of monitor lizards ripping rabbits to shreds
And that is why I refuse to cater to those vermin.

>>721104496
Probably. I think it'd be fun if left as is, but again, I wanna do a bit of my own thing here.
Plus there's the fact that some elements would need changing one way or another to accommodate my changes. Some things worked okay in the original, but not so much once I've changed the genre they belonged in, and such. For the two months I've been working on it so far, they've just been sitting in the back of my mind, hoping they'd iron themselves out or something. Going back to the drawing board very quickly presented solutions to them.

Simply put, breaking out of that original design gave me new perspective, and I like it a lot. It's just a bit difficult to decide how to put it together now. There's no clear blueprint to follow anymore, I have to prototype.

>>721104860
Yeah I can confidently say I have that. It's a matter of making everything feel tight and fun instead of poorly thought-out and needlessly convoluted.

>>721098636
Why are you talking about dragons dogma or or zelda when its clearly Binding of Isaac or enter the gungeon

Does anyone know of any decent tutorials on making a first person dungeon crawler like Wizardry or Etrian Odyssey? I've been making small games for a while that are basically just vertical slices of other games in preparation for eventually making my own game, which I want to be a first person dungeon crawler. I've been doing it for a while but after I finish the exercise I'm doing now I just want to try making a prototype dungeon crawler before moving on to the real thing, so if a good tutorial to work off exists it would be really handy.

>>721094045
>>721098636
The wheel NEEDS to be subverted or you will not make it. Case in point, The Last Jedi gets praised while the rehash plot after it gets bashed on.

>>721105718
As someone who made one few years ago, I'm not aware of one say, but there's a few for the dungeon crawling part and the RPG part separatedly.

The crawlan part isn't too hard. First of all decide if you want the movement locked to a grid or not.
RPG part is a lot harder. More rigid rules means more work. It's probably better to focus on one first, then work on the other once you're happy with it, or need a break from it.

Good luck trying to revive this cursed genre.

>>721107047
I already made a vertical slice of a JRPG, though obviously it didn't have all the complexities that would make it really difficult to put together, but it's good to know the dungeoncrawling isn't that hard to put together. I've already done grid-based movement from a top-down perspective but I really want to figure out how to have it be first person and have a map to go with it before I make my own game because those are pretty fundamental parts of the experience.

>>721107595
One thing I didn't do and I'd recommend looking into would be a robust map editor.
What I did was place all the walls manually, and then just took a screenshot of the finished map that'd be revealed as you walked around. It was pretty tedious.
Now with more experience I'd make a map editor where you just fill out a grid, then it gets made up of premade pieces, and the viewable map gets generated from that data as well.

It might make adding gimmicks/puzzles more difficult as you should implement them in the editor too, but you could also keep it simple, generate just a basic map in there, and then spice it up with props.

As for the JRPG stuff, usually shit like non-static things causes me to have to think it through. Things like buffs or passive effects.

>>721107595
You could try mode-7 from your existing top down grid

FUCK YOU YOU STUPID PURITAN CREDIT CARD FAGGOTS NOW I HAVE TO GIVE UP ON MY PORN GAME AND GO BACK TO BEING A SURGEON

>>721083513
Thanks.

I haven't been drawing much because I haven't been feeling well much so my art has regressed again.
https://files.catbox.moe/tr6xgz.png

>>721109424
Looks good to me

>>721104984
>projection
>obsession
>denial
>and throw in your weird fetish for good measure
That's how you know it's a fagoon post.

FINAL PLAN for 2026 and beyond for /v/3:

>Trailers are limited to a minimum of a minute and a maximum of 1 minute 30 seconds and 28 spots.
>Those who cant make a full trailer can then opt into 1 of 6 rapid fire montages of games (30 spots total) where the required length of clips is 10-15 seconds and are sandwiched between bumpers
>>The trailers can be marked as "In Production, Coming Soon (with a release date), Demo Out, or Out Now"
>Participants can nominate their game for an extended spotlight which will be chosen on the organizer's discretion
>Two interviews of approx 5 minutes in length will be put inbetween.
>Skits will last around 3-4 minutes in-between trailers. Maybe more shorter skits? IDK. Hosts will also VA the extended spotlight.
>Afterwards, those who have submitted demos "Demo out" they will be available on our site.
>(1) Game will be awarded an icon for best in show for them to display on their socials/steam page, etc.

Thanks for all your input fellas.

>>721112837
You're giving way too much time to skits, keep it to 2-2:30 minutes max, anything else is pushing it. This way you can do at least 2 skits per intermission instead of wasting time on one that's garbage

yeah dude, i too am trying make ocarina of time

>>721098269
Retarded and blind. There are plenty of games in here that have progress.

>>721054038 (OP)
Anyone here tried Cry Engine? How is it?

>>721115480
The forest demo runs at 60fps with 0 rendering hacks, full resolution. The graphics are better than what you get in unreal or unity. But good luck doing anything with it. Unless youre Crytek you wont get far.

>>721115618
I was thinking of a just simple FPS puzzle game like The Witness

>>721104880
Thanks anon! Don't remember, it was a long time ago. Maybe a month? I was quite new to both Game Maker and gamedev in general. A more experienced dev could make that in like a week.
>>721107031
>The Last Jedi gets praised
really? I thought it was dogshit. Best thing to come out of Star Wars, imo, is Empire and some of the videogames.
>>721099119
mmmh, buenísimo!
>>721105643
sorry for the confusion. That 2D shooter was a game I worked on in 2019 or 2020. My current one is the one in 3D with the blonde dude smacking goblins with a sword.
>>721112837
sounds cool, hope I get to participate some day. Thanks for making the effort!
>>721114938
BASED

>>721116135
Unity all the way. Or unreal engine if you use 4 or turn off shit that makes 5 awful. They both have vastly better documentation than cry engine

>>721114549
Yeah I updated my internal one I apologize it didn't make it to my copypasta. Skits are 2-2:30.

>>721099558
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind. Still need to play around with the design abit

>>721116486
Why even do them? Why not just showcase as many games possible?

>>721117562
I enjoy making them and despite what you may think people do enjoy them and it is something unique that sets our showcase apart. Doubly so that we do themes each year as well.

>>721117562
nta but even if a skit isn't funny, it lets the viewer "digest" what has been shown. Otherwise it would be a bombardment of information.

>>721112837
Hello, I'm a retard. Is there a page for this yet? What is the deadline? Trying to figure out if I'll have a substantial enough demo ready in time. I don't really spend time in the /vg/ game dev threads, would I be disqualified for this?

>>721108682
Just make it a patch breh

>>721117997
For December's show (The /v/erdict 2), the site will be up shortly. THE PLAN I STATED ABOVE IS FOR NEXT JUNE NOT DECEMBER! Submissions for The /v/erdict 2 JUST opened up and will run until December. You'll be able so signup on our site, and alternatively (and quicker) you can join the discord and sign up there or email is at gamesubmit4v3@gmail.com

>>721059003
Overall happy with the flying for now. Will modify the wing span and rotate feet to move to the ground. Ill eventually make a lift off animation. Last will be the hand smash and tail whip attack, then the flame breath you'll need something to survive.
For today and to.orrow im fixing the chat system, new animations, new hit damage and knockback

>>721119235
>Submissions for The /v/erdict 2 JUST opened up
I'm so nervous haha, hope I'm able to make it in time
>>721119264
That's a very cool looking dragon man, great model!

>>721119235
Thank you

>>721117795
Why get so defensive i just asked a question? I had no implifications in what I said. You autistic gents need to relax not all of us dudebros are that rude or mean.
I simply just wanted to know why you guys did them, peeps enjoy them. Cool.
>>721117795
No, I completely reject this premise.

>>721119464
Did this bot just break?

>>721119235
either I went to the wrong website or it is awfully outdated. It still has a section in memoriam of 4chan back from when it wemt down.

>>721119464
The despite what you may think wasnt a defensive thing. People have legitimately made the argument for us abandoning the skits. But while you might hear that, I hear more that people enjoy them and that they keep getting better (in the sense of it's not like 2023 where I was writing tamers style shit.)

>>721119752
It's outdated. We had that up because it played into the opening of the 2025 summer show. I am waiting on the other organizer (the one that does the verdict) to get with my site guy to update. I don't want to step on his toes by just doing it myself because it is his show and I want to respect his vision.

>>721059540
>two days
>already a millionaire

bros....

>>721091173
Kino

>>721079236
>>721081704
>>721091173
When are you going to finish your game?
You've posted 100 times in every game dev thread on 4chan for the past 2 years.
When are you going to move on?

>>721119985
Dude knows how to market, good for him. I'm jelly as fuck.

>>721104954
Adjust ai tick rate based on distance to nearest player or something, that’s what ark did and it ended up as a cool usable mechanic

>>721119985
>goblin on the picture
>massive success

>>721119985
slop sells. im almost tempted to just make steamer slop for some extra cash

>>721119985
I just done see how this type of game can be fun for more than a few minutes. Literal slop I could never play

>>721110676
That wouldn't make sense though considering his game is a furry game.

>>721119464
Attacking /v/3 is never going to make you feel better about being banned from it fygoon.

>>721119393
Thank you! Im happy with how he turned out, and I meant to say combat not chat lol. I have multi-player aspects built into the game but im putting that on hold for now.
Man I remember being nervous posting my game here lol.
>>721119235
I think I can do that if I don't already have something soon on my own by October end. I'd love to get gameplay feedback from players too.

>>721119985
Game looks very fun and cool, trailer was done well.

>>721100214
>>721102064
>>721102416
>gets no reply to his second "progress" posts
>starts seething and randomly attacking anons
>has to reply to himself
Why do you even come here.

>>721120685
Fagoon is really banned from /v/3?
Not a surprise really. kwab

>>721120225
The amount of seethe and cope and delusion in this single sentence is actually impressive.

>>721120165
Good to know that information, may be what I do for the default actually

>>721120984
It is so tiring, I hate uploading my game progress here because he is such a shitty person and ruins productive conversation. I'm looking forward to /v/3 and yet he has to be belligerent towards hosts and other game devs.
Dont let his "positive" comments trick you, he is cancer.

>>721121052
He's banned everywhere. He's been permabanned from 4chan for over a year and keeps breaking the law to force his way in here and act like a retard. He thinks he's "advertising" by making his game and himself the most nauseating thing on the internet.

Funny thing is if he ever makes a dime from his game 4chan can just sue him for illegally using their platform exclusively to market his game while he's been banned this whole time. That's theft.

>>721121360
I saw him post his shit on a forum im very well known in. I talked with the owner of the place, but he told me his game was like on page 3,000 of the other games released for that thread.
Good.

>>721121214
>Dont let his "positive" comments trick you
Anyone who has been in these threads more than once knows his schtick. >>721079236
Puts his gay dinosaur avatar on as a mascot uniform to make cheesy back patting comments to other devs to try and look good, like a sleezy politician who is fooling nobody, then as the thread goes on and he doesn't get enough praise for posting his lame "progress" he starts getting irate and attacking people and just by habit even attaches his gay lizard as a signature. >>721102064

He does this every single thread. For years. At this point I am losing respect for devs who continue to play along with him. It's like wtf are you doing, stop responding to his ass pats.

>>721121752
He starts insulting people that don't reply to him too

>>721121752
hey to be fair, that idea of shrinking the sword was actually very good feedback. But yeah, not defending him and I understand why some people don't like him.

>>721121360
Not only that, he seems ignorant of the fact that he can't release any of his games publicly with a clean slate.
He's accumulated so many enemies, as soon as he tries releasing anything it will get bombarded with negative reviews just to fuck him over. And if he thinks he can play the victim in front of normies unaware of his history then there's a shit ton of dirt here and on other sites that would ruin his image in a heartbeat.
Fagoon just give up and work in a different field. You dug your own grave online.

>>721121752
Same, it isn't about gatekeeping gamedev from others, it is about general respect. Few people respond to my game and 99% of the first submissions were "slop" baby's first asset flip" "shit" "garbage" and you know what I did? I took their advice. I removed the assets and started adding my own. I dont care if I even get replies im having fun hanging with other devs.

>>721095908
>>721098118
>They literally killed any creativity I had and
Was that your first creative gig?

>>721121983
>hey to be fair, that idea of shrinking the sword was actually very good feedback
That's why he couldn't make it without attaching his avatar (just another of dozens of site wide rules that he breaks). Everything he does is in his mind some form of manipulating the public to like him and his game. While also being permanently banned and illegally violating this website to post here.

>>721122220
well I like attaching my goblins to my posts as well, and I've seen other devs do the same. I think it's normal since we are always the same devs around those threads, so it's nice to know who you are talking to. But yeah I guess it can get annoying to others if done too much or over a very long time, I've been trying to post less goblins for that reason.

Why did fygoon get banned from /v/3? Aren't they like, reddit incarnate? Shouldn't you not want to be in it?

Looks like the faggot is spreading rumors and lies again.

>>721122671
So you're NOT banned from /v/3?

>>721122896
No. I just refuse to work with them.

>>721122671
is it true that you are short, brown and never scored?

>>721122220
I assume this is how you view me, right?

>>721122972
That's not what I heard. From the organizer himself. In the /v/3 server. Of which you are publicly banned.

>>721121752
>At this point I am losing respect for devs who continue to play along with him.
And I presume you have the most fantastic game in the world, huh? Don't be shy.

>The most vocal losers are the ones with no games to show
Makes you wonder why they even come in to shit up the thread with their gossip and lies.

>>721123784
Kermit would know proper grammar

>>721120154
>Knows how to market
>Twitter followers clock in at 90
That game is closer to anons than they would like to believe

>showing your game in threads infested by an egotistical parasite who yearns to shit on it because you hurt his feefees
I'll show it on /v/3 instead :^)

Oh my God, who fucking cares. Just fucking ignore fygoon and just post your goddamn progress. Like ignore him. Don't reply to him at all. Stop complaining about him. Stop arguing with him. Ignore him, goddamn. Stop filling the thread up with bullshit.

>>721124663
The 800+ steam reviews already are far more important than twitter followers

>>721124982
Apparently, the losers with no games care.

>>721125107
Whoa, look at that giant booty

there's two ways to deal with the narcissist
either ignore him or insult him for being an ugly virgin, no in-between

>>721125157
That's his shoulder pauldron.

>>721125387
Sorry, can't unsee it being a big ol' booty, will wishlist now

>>721125213
reminder, he's a half slav, half spic
he is the dirtiest pile of mud and nothing you say can harm him besides maybe bringing up the fact that his alter-ego OC is just ripping off Croc which he got semi-butthurt about one time

I need to eventually overcome my mortal fear of a high polygon count and actually try modeling how other people seem to do it.

>>721125553
lol you're right

>>721125006
The follower count says that he, and by extention we, don’t have to partake in the Twitter song and dance to get anywhere. It’s a miracle.

>>721125732
Just need the mass youtuber coverage! Wait, I don't have that either...

>>721119985
damn, congrats

>>721124663
>>721125006
>>721125732
Are you just downplaying/ignorant of his presence on Youtube? 38k subscribers at the time of this post, which ranges anywhere from 5k subscribers upwards ~6 months ago when he hit a 2.2 million view short

>>721122125
longest gig, I take smaller stuff now

>>721126442
slop marketing is vampiric

>>721126442
We need an anon with better shorts…

>>721122660
Anon this is a bad take for someone who wants their game to get noticed. You cant play 4chan like a sperg in this thread.

>>721127013
>He took time out of his day to make a comic about his forbidden love
We get it, you're gay for me. I do not reciprocate and that's why you hate me.

>>721126442
What do you use to make shorts?

>>721127013
>>721127382
now kiss

>>721126442
Guess I was looking at the wrong channel then https://www.youtube.com/@megabonker/featured

Wanted to talk to actual indie devs about this. How concerned are you over Pokemon and Nintendo going ape with the patents? Are you genuinley concerned they will ever impact you or come out for you?

>>721057032
>>721055248
>>721073537
Any good tutorials or classes on making good online systems?

>>721127817
what a disgusting cockroach

>>721128036
If you make a Nintendo knockoff, just keep it on the down low. The reason they attacked Palworld was because they signed a merch deal with Sony.

>>721126442
He was doing it for almost a year too.

>>721128127
https://youtu.be/D5RQ2m_-NT8?si=DsIfUNVkMyLCTBGQ
Game dev with Yaz if probably overkill but his tutorial series or this one

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3eBqMwkHPok1KgYuobV-DeVi9r_0iimH&si=JVfKRTuDBTDcWpj3
This was another I intended to do but mine is client based so ill have scrap and redo if I want it to be a better online game.

>>721128869
The slop shorts give me conniptions. I want people to take shorts of my game for a cool feature and not this trash.

>>721129395
Thanks!

>>721129875
Stop bitching and make something worth showing. Otherwise, go to /agdg/ if you want to whine and not make games.

>>721130039
No problem! Let me know if they are of any help im usually lurking when these threads get made.

>>721102064
>>721130227
You're self sabotaging yourself because you know your game has no future and are just deliberately trying to make people hate your game by association with this sad antagonistic behavior.
Everyday you do this and then the next morning you convince yourself you can fix it by dodging your ban, coming back and trying to be a good boy like this >>721079236

This is your daily routine and has been for how long? Think about it.
Also none of it is gamedev or has anything to do with gamedev. You're just a crazy person blasting their personality disorder in everyones face asking to be put on kiwifarms. That seems to be your number one goal, not making a game but ending up on kiwifarms.

>>721071083
Pretty sure the image is meant to demonstrate agile methodology and is meant to get a different point across.

Can you split code windows in Godot editor yet?

>>721128479
also the normie gamers all made tik tok/youtube parodies of how it was a knockoff

I guess making translations would help not getting reviews like this

>>721132510
Maybe, but it's also perfect for getting the point I was making across. Everything in the bottom pic is a different, fully complete item that gradually increase in complexity while the top is trying to immediately build the most complex one.

>>721132196
You know all this time yapping could have been used on your game instead of lecturing like a hypocritical hermit, right?

>>721127139
When you say
>that's why you hate me
even as a shitpost you're moping, and making it obvious that you think you're hated. That's sad. It clearly bothers you or you wouldn't think that or say it even as a shitpost.
You need to ask an adult for help and stop posting here.
I personally think 4chan should send your family a legal letter. I don't think you're capable of stopping.

don't even reply to fagoon
just report and hide every single one of his worthless posts

>>721133335
Leaving the house to do activities like this >>721127817 so you can post it on the internet, you think that means you haven't failed at life. I promise if you let any adults in your life take a look at your reputation here they would shake you and tell you to stop immediately. You have failed massively with this game and are ruining your life.

After the CK news I decided not to make an account of blueskye. Like holy fuck those people are deranged, fuck finding an audience there. I can't imagine what they would to do me if I refuse to put pronouns in my game.

>>721133512
He seems to have the brain of an animal. There is no getting through. And because he's breaking the law by abusing this website, doing everything possible to avoid being kept out by the administrators, he needs to have legal action taken against him.

Animating my little flying devil imp guy. The staff in his hand is a placeholder for a trident. He'll fly in place or fly in a set pattern and shoot fire at you, then laugh if he hits you. Should be fun.

>>721132196
I didnt say anything at him yet he quotes me calling me out for bitching? At what...slop shorts? Trash is trash, my god. Im working on my game throughout my posts I refuse to post further progress for now.

>>721054342
>Programming
>Extremely Difficult
Huh?

>>721134036
if you're doing novel things, yes it is

>>721134339
Like? Maybe it's hard if you have no experience in engineering, programming is the only part of my project I find piss easy

All I want for christmas this year is a playable demo of Mayhem League
That's it

picrel screenshot I took in '22 of his posts explaining his work on the LongShot combo

>>721133936
Sounds like fun. Maybe those guys could work like Boomerang Bros. from 3D Mario games where they come in small groups (two or three) as they leap (or in your case, fly) to different areas to attack.

>>721132986
How can you say it's perfect for getting your point across, when it's communicating a different point? If you keep saying stuff like that, no one should listen to you.

>>721135312
>when it's communicating a different point
According to you. Are you autistic by any chance?

>>721134772
Hmm. That's actually not a bad idea. I can have a version of them that moves in a pattern similar to the hammer bros. I like that!

I was talking to my brother a few days ago about Warcraft and how when you clicked on the Icon they said stuff, and I thought, that would be a fun little thing for my game too, so I implemented it. It'll be the same voice lines for all characters of that species though instead of each character from that species having their own lines. The process of recording myself, using a synthesizer, then modifying it in audacity for dozens and dozens of characters is a bit too much work for me to do and focus on.

https://files.catbox.moe/syjjem.webm

>>721126442
Youtube shorts, Tiktok, and Instagram Reels, are overpowered in terms of marketing potential.

Poke all Toads will be successful as it frequently trends on those platforms.

>>721135359
Just trying to demonstrate how your input is actually a hindrance to the discussion at large. No need to get defensive, but do consider what it means if this is your level of contribution and you're fucking even that up. It's slobbish.

old people gameblecore roguelite strategic/puzzle roguelite still going strong, I got registered on steamworks so i can start piecing together a steam page.
I am adding a bunch of content to the game, in total i'm planning on 210 items, 150 of one kind, 30 of another type, and 30 of yet another type. Now that i actually have shit that populates the shop, I started working on the save/load system which in turn led to a progress/achievement tracking system.
I still need to do some polishing but i'm hoping to finally pull the curtain back soon bros

>mental illness the thread
>in one corner we have fygoon throwing tantrums at people he praises.
>whiners not making games just posting drama
>people screaming ignore ignore
>no one ignoring
>less game progress made
>more non game post autism
>literally 3 or 4 people actually contributing and building.
>the rest are either trolls or they left knowing full well what this place has become.
>le 4chinz culture means I get to be a super faggot around everyone
Yup sounds like game dev!

Tennis game. Day 1

added 2 planes

: J

>>721073537
Until you have to set catch cases for every possible fucking edge case to ensure the clients do not disconnect or desync beyond repair because one guy has a two second long hiccup on his shitty wi-fi.

>>721135520
Did you ever release any prototypes to dick around with? Been seeing your progress webms on and off for the last few months.

>>721137404
Oh, yeah. I updated it from time to time. It's a real, bear bones early alpha. It has Treasure Trove Cove from Banjo Kazooie as well as an original Level that is blocked out but not finished at all called "Mt. Energy". You can play it here:

https://oshmakesgames.itch.io/ellie-and-osh-demo

>>721137690
>No Linux version
I realize now that I won't be able to play most of the games people make here now that I've moved on from Windows. I'm not going back though, W11 can fuck right off.

>>721138617
....Proton?

>>721138617
>I realize now that I won't be able to play most of the games people make here now that I've moved on from Windows
That's too bad. Guess whose game you can play since it has not only a Mac OS X build, but also a Windows AND Linux build?

>>721139125
Oh but no mobile, fucking dead on arrival.

What's the ideal solution if you need more topology in one area, but not in another? Do you split things and eat the tri or do you path an entire edge loop to keep the quads flowing?

>>721139586
I just reference what other games of a similar fidelity do. It's also dependent on your renderer, since floating parts may require custom normals to not stand out like a sore thumb where you 'connect' them.

>>721054038 (OP)
>lurk for help
How much did you lurk before you started making threads every day OP?

>>721139959
Yeah i would duplicate/mirror my boots only to see one of them flipped normals in game and inverted-ish. I like the idea of inverted eyes so it looks like the enemies are always staring at you.

>>721140112
I see the retards have arrived. Dont worry friend ill make another one

>>721140293
>I see the retards have arrived
Not surprised you saw that when you posted, yeah.

>>721139125
>makes it about himself
Psychopath.

>>721136916
When a kiwifarms thread is inevitably made about him it's going to be insane.

>>721124727
His presence literally makes the threads feel lame. Like his game looks like a 3rd grader made it so just even glimpsing his trash is painful for devs who are actually trying to do something worthwhile.

>>721123784
>>721127139
>"you hate me"
>telling people to kill him
You can keep pretending you own these threads all you want, you're cracking and are clearly not a happy person. Stop posting here.

>>721140734
Im not saying I will be happy but we all know
>>721140932
I personally cackled when someone called them balloon animals.

>>721122085
>Not only that, he seems ignorant of the fact that he can't release any of his games publicly with a clean slate.
He doesn't care, he can't think past the next 15 minutes. Maybe kiwifarms will give him somewhere else to spend his time, making witty rhetorts to them once they get on his case, that will become his new life and these threads can finally be good again.

>>721140293
They've been here since about 00:00 UTC

>>721140150
I'm talking normal manipulation as in affecting how the renderer sees the normal of the vertex, not "shit is inside out".

Eg. pic related. Left is just two separate meshes intersected, right is with the normals of the one mesh adjusted so it looks more blended in, despite being a separate mesh cutting through.

One thing I just can't find good documentation for? Building a character creator. Seems like it's one of the things that will be a comparatively larger pain to do.

>>721141329
Ok, Ranjesh.

>>721141339
Are you aware of how many images you've spammed in this thread so far? Do you keep count? It's a lot. This is why you're permabanned (among many other reasons) on this website and continuing to dodge the ban is illegal. Actions have consequences. You've been antagonizing 4chan for almost two years now and you're not exactly anonymous. You're a danger to yourself and others.

>>721141397
I figure it's just a case of having a rig that multiple meshes are all made to work with, and you just constrain them to the armature's bones depending on the piece. Everything else with 'sliders' you would just use blendshapes for.

>>721141390
Yeah well you used tiddies as as example to post tiddies. Very good.

>>721138746
Proton doesn't work with Godot games, also you can easily export Linux builds from Godot when you're exporting Windows builds so there's no incentive to make Godot work with Proton.

>>721141484
>Do you keep count?
I don't have time to consider such unimportant matters. Keep crying about how I am "breaking da law". Tell you what: why don't you, oh I don't know, CITE which specific law I'm """breaking""" and I might consider leaving.
It shouldn't be that hard, right?

>>721141397
While this isnt a creator, here is a super basic character select that you might be able to learn from and use. You have to learn how cameras possess pawns anyways or you will load a level with nothing.
https://youtu.be/cU3kqDd0aKY?si=sS-pNWEk75iNe7S1

My game uses mesh swapping like older games, no armor is socketed to my meshes, armor lvl 1 and 10 are different hands that follow a leaderpose. But I imagine creators do the same it is just the legs or feet versus boots or greaves. I followed Ryan's load out video to understand leaderpose components and honestly his load out video might be a good place to start.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4G2bSPE_8uluU6DkMzUtpTrRocawjFk7&si=9QX0SIyQxSWCJLIc

>>721141717
>I don't have time to consider such unimportant matters
Well you're right about that, your pictures and your posts are the least important thing in these threads. Shame that every thread has to carry so much useless noise from one person.
Kiwifarms is going to eat you alive. You won't be able to resist making an account and spending your life arguing with them about how you're actually amazing and they're beneath you.

>>721141803
>He cannot cite which """law""" is being violated despite making himself out as an authority
I accept your concession.

There's so many assets left to finish.

just woke up
crazy this thread is still going up
gonna brew some coffee and get on some more UI

>>721141717
>>721141854
>what are terms of service
Your parents will have to deal with the consequences not you. They should definitely know what their kid is doing though, harrassing 4chan for this long just begging for kiwifarms to handle him. Like I said, you're a danger to yourself and others.

>>721141513
Yeah, basically seems like it. As I'm currently using UE5, I might mess around with their Metahuman system.
>>721141789
Yeah. Another thing I considered was doing like Helldivers 2 where you get bodytypes and armor and that's it.

>>721141928
>violating a website's standard terms of service is generally not a criminal act and will not directly result in jail time
I am only a danger to your fragile worldview. Your end will be a net positive to the world.

>>721141594
Yeah, but then you're stuck having to load up a Linux OS to test that it actually works properly, as well as add another build step to your deployments, where-as Proton was just a convenient bonus if it did its thing.

>>721141218
>I personally cackled when someone called them balloon animals
I feel too guilty to even laugh at him because he's obviously special needs but when someone called it a diaper lizard that was hilarious and real. I mean let's be honest, the way he acts about his diaper lizard game is hilarious. He is a clown.
Unfortunately it's not the kind of comedy a person can force the way he wishes he could, and it stops being funny and just annoying. Years ago.

You know who this queer reminds me of? Genius Eric.

>>721137005
keep at it

>>721142039
You've been dodging bans on a webservice for how many years. You're a cyber criminal, no different from a retarded kid hacking computers and eventually getting caught, and if we cared enough to notice your absence, we would all sing and dance with joy, but most likely nobody will even notice your absence. Things will just be good again and nobody will care what happened to your diaper lizard.

>>721142025
I would also check out the paragon assets, they're huge files but completely free to use in a game.

>>721142421
You're doing the same thing since you got banned over a post about me, Eric. By your retard logic, you are a criminal mastermind.
The police will get you.

What's the matter? Got no argument after I exposed your hypocrisy?
Good.

>>721142097
Proton isn't a get out of jail free card for Windows compatibility, then again nobody really gives a fuck because Linux is about %2 of the player base so having a Linux version is more of a charity than anything else.

>>721142332
>>721142498
Yeah you always do this, try and guess peoples names and namedrop, like I said you're just a stupid kid who abuses computers to annoy and try to scare people, that's called cybercrime. This is why you're banned in so many places. 4chan. Numerous discords. /v3. How many sites are you banned from? Kiwifarms is pretty good at getting answers.

>>721142615
>mashes f5 and gets anxious if he doesn't get immediate reply
Like I said, kiwifarms is going to eat you alive. You'll finally get all the attention you crave. Good luck with that.

>>721142870
You do the exact same thing.

>>721142916
Good luck and goodbye.

Would learning lua or GML (GameMaker's language) be easier?

>>721143023
Perhaps, but it doesn't translate well into the workforce. C# is pretty good as it can be used to develop web applications as well as computer games.
I should know: I've done both.

>>721143065
>Perhaps, but it doesn't translate well into the workforce.
That didn't answer his question at all. Read the question again what you just said makes no sense.
You literally don't even know what you're talking about you're just making noise as usual and spamming yet another picture. Stop posting on this website.

>>721143496
It was answered in a single word: "perhaps". I thought you were fucking off, anyway.

>>721099195
The difference between the "idea guy" and "actual effort" is simply in intellect. Also of genuine dumb people are the self proclaimed "idea guys" and I know it personally.

Idea guy doesn't have a capacity to understand the situation he is in and the effort it takes to bring his "ideas" to life, partly from the fact he never tried doing anything himself. Everyone is an idea guy, everyone can talk out of their ass, but when you actually start implementing and working on the stuff you thought about you realize how, if not impossible it is, unreasonable, unrealistic or simply too much of an effort to actualize. Majority of the games started as grand ideas, but even studios with thousands of dollars of budgets had to dumb down the scopes and cut more than half of what they initially "thought" off. Also, there is no comprehension of risks involved either with the idea guy, since he doesn't understand that his ideas might actually be uninteresting dog shit that not only no one asked for but it was literally already been done and failed miserably, but his fantasy prevents him from at the very least considering so.

There is no more pathetic man than idea man, since again, everyone have ideas, the difference is simply in actualizing them.

>>721143023
>>721143065

>>721143023
Probably GML. Don't mind fygoon here he doesn't even read questions before pretending to know the answer >>721143065

>>721143604
>It was answered
Read the question again.
Stop posting on this website.

>>721143023
To actually try on my end, bigger picture speaking what are your goals? Do you want to stay in gamemaker or enhance it/branch away from its framework?

>>721143786
Quite interesting how you reply every 4 minutes. Almost like you're generating an unused IP from a certain service.

>>721143604
How is "perhaps" an answer to an A or B question fygoon.

What is actually wrong with you? Have you been diagnosed?

>>721143885
>tries to change the subject
Embarrassing.

>>721143065
>embarrassing yourself while simultaneously trying to brag
Outdoing yourself today fygoon ol pal.

>>721143023
GML is based on C which is pretty well documented, and GM itself in general should have alot of documentation.

>>721143605
I did LSD a lot back then. My ideas sometimes scare me, but I have executed 90% of them in my game. I'd rather it be shit knowing I can blame myself and not some other asshat.

>>721143856
>gives answers without knowing the answer or even reading the question
>"okay I'll actually try to answer this time, let me ask you some questions first"
Stop posting on this website. Literally anything is more worthwhile than your gibberish.

>>721143065
>>721143856
>answers questions with literal nonsense
>admits it but frames it as "not trying"
Fascinating really.

>>721143065
Did they ask about C#?

>>721144289
>>721144383
God damn I am so sick of getting stuck in the crossfire. Faggoon wont even admit this wasnt him. Sorry for trying to get back on subject.

>>721143604
>I answered the question
No you didn't and then you immediately replied again saying this >>721143856

and that isn't an answer either. What is wrong with you?

>>721143065
>>721143604
>thinks perhaps is an answer
lol

How's the C# situation on Godot these days? Still slower than using GDScript for most situations?

>>721144467
Friendly fire understood.

>>721143065
>>721143604
Stop posting on this website.

>>721144592
I should have just left it alone, my bad.

>>721144467
In relation to your original question, they're probably about equal just go with whatever engine you feel more comfortable with. Both languages are extensively documented anyways (I'm assuming if you're planning on lua you're using Love, which had pretty good documentation from what I've heard). If you've ever coded in C/C#/C++, I'd recommend GM since it's pretty similar to those languages from memory.
https://www.lua.org/docs.html
https://love2d.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://devdocs.io/lua/
https://manual.gamemaker.io/monthly/en/#t=Content.htm

>>721054038 (OP)
Hey everyone look at this and laugh
>>721143023
>>721143065
>>721143604
Fygoon literally has no idea what he's doing or talking about.

>>721143065
>>721143604
Are you for real?

>>721144419
>no reply
He's shook.

>>721143065
lmao wait til /g/ hears about this.

>>721144820
Sorry, I was working on my game (unlike you who just sits on these threads and does nothing).

>>721144467
>Faggoon wont even admit this wasnt him.
He's too busy freaking out at the realization that he just destroyed his credibility in the worst way.

>>721144952
>his credibility
lol
lmao even

>>721054342
>level design
>easy

this would be believable bait if most games didn't fail at this, from one man indie projects all the way up to massive AAA creations

>>721144928
>he says after spamming every thread for 2 years with 50 diaper lizard pictures
Yeah super busy on that game huh.

>>721143065
>>721144928
>>721143604
>hovers over the thread like a hawk jumping on questions he can't even answer
>pretends to answer them
>doesn't
>calls this "working on his game"
lol

>>721144985
In his mind yes he thinks we see him as a pro game dev lol
But now he just got caught talking literal gibberish to a technical question.
It's OVERRRRR

>>721143927
>How is "perhaps" an answer to an A or B question fygoon.
No reply. He's freaking out.

Just woke up. I see you boys have been busy lol

>>721144952
If he cared at all about his credibility he would have stopped posting the way he does before he became a pariah and constant problem for every single gamedev/indie thread
The only thing that matters to him now is being as big of a lolcow and humanly possible

>>721143604
>It was answered in a single word: "perhaps"
How is that an answer.
Answer me or you will forever be revealed for the clown you have always been.
You have 10 minutes.

>>721145338
No he loves being a pariah, what he really cares about though is pretending to be a gamedev who people should listen to on various matters. Unfortunately he just revealed he literally has no idea what he's talking about and can never be a true 4chan /v/ game developer.

>>721145338
I'm honestly surprised he doesn't just march over to kiwifarms and make a thread about himself lmao

Anyone got reading material on environment building? I'm talking keeping sane draw call counts, when to group meshes vs. keep them separate, workflows for modular building so you're not reinventing to wheel so often when you can tweak an existing prefab to fit a new case, etc.

Been dicking around with making some basic Create-a-Park assets to prototype a skateboarding game with at some point, but this approach leaves very little with regards to building an organic terrain in this LEGO manner, so I'm going to eventually need a means of say, taking humps and quarter-pipe prefabs and modeling them directly into the terrain at some point so they look smooth, rather than look placed on top. Hell, I don't even know if you should even chop up a terrain when you do make one, just to make the means of transitioning to LoD models variable distance rather than fixed.

>>721144928
You're shitposting here and in agdg.
Sad day for you fygoon. Never thought you would give a technical question an answer like "perhaps".
I guess you really are just a fraud.

>>721145351
It's over. He's too shook.
That's the end of fygoon. The manlet. The MYTH. Mostly the myth.

This was the last post fygoon ever made. >>721143065
What comes after is merely an echo. The illusion has finally been ended.

>>721054342
Level design is easy?

>>721144716
This is og game dev here. Thanks for the efforts anon.

>>721054342
User experience should be under S with how many games fuck that up.

makin a game about being a maid in a maid cafe

>>721135606
>pic
Is this your game? Looking very cool

>>721126442
I will admit it looks very eyecatching and the models look legit good for lowpoly.

>>721145673
Are familiar with instancing? You might benefit from it in this use case. Granted im used to seeing it used for tinier objects i see no reason why this wouldnt work.
I watch random videos for gamedev to find solutions where you least expect. This is a good tutorial on instancing
https://youtu.be/SDkkQvWzg7Y?si=CdoLHh8ajuZ3gEhB

https://youtu.be/5Ad9C8YQoL8?si=rZKSXjt9X4D4nubK

>>721145984
This is a good day

>Fagoon makes himself the public enemy and gets more eyes on any question he answers to provide the anon asking with time and effort of other people
I kneel Fygoon, you truly are the most valuable MVP of these threadth.

Though known now as saboteurs and pranksters, the Gremlings, when given the right materials and motivation, can make mechanical marvels that rival that of the Rodents. Take, for instance, the Gremlings' piloted exoskeleton: the Grem-Lord.

>>721146473
Instancing doesn't help much on main environment builders. Only minor repeated objects/props as you mentioned.

Me from yesterday wrote a note asking me of today to work on a specific part of the game.
Do I humor him or do I go do field research for 12 hours (play games and pretend I learn game design from them).

https://litter.catbox.moe/to3eekd1wmw27i24.mp4
progress

>>721147085
good music did you make it yourself?

>>721147349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je_nWsc8S0k

>>721147374
oh cool

>people remembered a bunch of games from 2022 in this thread
>but not mine
Feels bad man

You know, guys, I'm a nodev who just started to learn everything, and my opinion doesn't matter, but the more I read these threads, the more I notice tge pattern: most of you progressposters post progress about unimportant stuff. Like "making a sword sheathing". Or something like "added fart clouds animation". Like, I get it, it's good for immersion and all, but I feel like most of you don't actually progressing and you just forever stuck in the polishing the turd phase. Aren't you able to do all that after finishing the main gameplay loop?

>>721147679
Hi there nodev. Little updates that you think are unimportant are to them. When you update text to use different letters sure, but if it means progress then it is progress. That means one less tedious thing that was forgotten.

>>721147679
Main gameplay loop takes hundreds of hours and focusing purely on that will result in burning out.
Have some fun with your game. When you get a girlfriend you don't just have babymaking sex 24/7 for the sole purpose of procreation with her do you?

>>721147679
Solo devving is a very complex process. There are a million things to do, most of it not very interesting or practically invisible, and can't really be shown.
We work on the things that make us happy, and show off the things we think end up looking cool. But make no mistake, every real progress post on "unimportant" things comes inbetween loads of actual work, which goes unappreciated because it can't easily be shown off or explained.

Today I woke up, did some design and theory on the story and gameplay, improved some code, fixed a bug.
But I'm going to show you this mushroom-covered tree I made.

>>721105718
>first person dungeon crawler
on rails shooter guy here
cant really point you towards any relevant tutorials
you can probably stitch together what youre looking for from various sources
that said
youre giving me an idea...

>>721148249
Are those normal maps I'm seeing in a lolsoretro looking game?

>>721148295
They are normal maps. I'm not making a retro game though. I guess the tree is a bit low poly, that's because I was trying to make a simple tree that wouldn't have me tearing out my hair over UV editing.

>>721148393
>that wouldn't have me tearing out my hair over UV editing.
That is something I need to learn to get better at with regards to mapping organic objects to trim sheets.

>>721147942
>>721148024
>>721148249
>Main gameplay loop takes hundreds of hours and focusing purely on that will result in burning out.
>When you update text to use different letters sure, but if it means progress then it is progress. That means one less tedious thing that was forgotten.
Why not use something like Logseg or even org-mode in order to list all the unimportant stuff and focus on big strokes first? Finish a level, for example, from start to finish, with starting point, enemies, backgrounds (in 2D game) and final boss. After that, add sword sheathing or whatever.

I have background in programming work and I don't want to sound like a snob but I feel like most of you don't know what YAGNI means.

>>721147679
No one cares faggoon

>>721148643
It is a hell of a task at first. Lately I've been doing very simple UVs for most objects, with only a few parts specifically done for texture details.
Pic related, my bunnies' entire texture. I only picked out the parts of the model which needed some texture, the rest is uniform color. That way you get a small, manageable part to easily deal with. Helps wrap your head around it.

>>721148923
And what makes you think i haven't? You only see what has been posted dummy.

>>721148939
Not a fagoon, just a nodev who just started learning Godot. Fygoon is an opposite of what I'm talking about, feature creeping till the end of times.

>>721149004
Can you guys stop being overly defensive like every bit of critique is a personal attack?

>>721148987
Here's the actual bunny.

>>721148923
Because in indie you often don't have a very rigid plan.
Plus YAGNI applies to code, applying it to broader game design is silly. Code is meant to be efficient, games are meant to be fun and quirky. Yeah it doesn't make much sense to add dependency injection to sword sheathing as it's just bloat, but if you change your game from swords to axes down the line, then it's not suddenly an inconvenience that you've placed on yourself.

>>721149087
>guys stop getting defensive at your own way to make a game while my way is superior
You sound just like lizblizz.

>>721147679
Asset creation is the most important part of gamedev. You can implement as many features into a prototype as you want, but it will feel 100x better to play when you put in the right art and sounds.

implemented ui event changes with ammo and health
as well as dynamic weapon icon change and reload pop up
closing in on having core ui template functionality in place

>>721149146
>Plus YAGNI applies to code
"YAGNI is a principle behind the XP practice of "do the simplest thing that could possibly work"", quote Wikipedia. It doesn't apply to code only, it applies to everything. What I see for most of you is a severe feature creep. Most of you don't even have a proof-of-concept MVP (minimal valuable product).

>Code is meant to be efficient, games are meant to be fun and quirky
Implying that the code for games doesn't need to be efficient? That's clearly wrong.

I was thinking of submitting my game to the next v/3 whenever that happens but I realized they won't approve of my game...

>>721147679
consult the graph

>>721147679
>people only show off things that are actually tangible
Stop the fucking presses

>>721149472
>Asset creation is the most important part of gamedev
No it is not. Pong has white squares for assets.

>>721149638
I know a lot about project management (managed a team of junior web programmers in recent past) and programming. Gamedev is also, literally, programming, for most part.

probably been asked 100 times, want to casually make limited games, would it be better to invest in UE5 or godot with only strong knowledge in art? example a 3d platformer

>>721147569
Lick my fucking balls bitch.

>>721148987
Regular-ass UV mapping I have no issue with. It's more the planning out trim sheets for maximizing reusability so I don't need multiple materials in a scene when I can reuse the one for a variety of assets that need generic detail like grass, wood, stone steps, etc.

>>721149792
When pong was developed, those white squares were revolutionary. Absolutely the most important part of pong is the white squares. Making them move and do something was added as an afterthought. They weren't developing a video game, they were developing visual rendering.

>>721149941
>When pong was developed, those white squares were revolutionary. Absolutely the most important part of pong is the white squares. Making them move and do something was added as an afterthought. They weren't developing a video game, they were developing visual rendering.
Spacewar was created 10 years prior. It already had visuals.

>>721149906
Faggot.

>>721149565
It's really not that complicated.
What you're saying is technically true, but beelining to the goal while ignoring every guilty pleasure on the way is just not what humans do (unless you have giga-autism).

Game development is more fluid than general software. As you claim >>721149792 here, you obviously know how to work in corporate setting where money is the #1 thing and you learn to minimize waste to account for changes in design.
In indie dev, you don't have money as motivator to do your job, so you need to motivate yourself in other ways. Nobody gives you shit for fucking around either.

Yes you can just make the bare fucking minimum, but you're not a failure for adding a ranged enemy on top of melee one "too early", or making the UI too pretty even if it changes. This isn't a megacorp where time is money.

tl;dr get that stick out of your ass, sucking out the fun out of gamedev is not what majority of people here want to do even if it gets the final product out slightly faster >implying majority of games will finish either way

>Implying that the code for games doesn't need to be efficient
Not what I said.

Want to make a tactical historical RPG like expeditions, aiming for Rome TW level fidelity. Gathered a whole bunch of references and shit, hopefully it fun me and my partners are really passionate so hopefully it pans out.

>>721149898
Probably GODOT, UE has a pretty steap learning curve and a whole bunch of useless features and bloat especially if you only plan on making platformers. Unity would also be a better option than UE.

>>721149508
Keep up the good work anon. Seeing the ui update with the rest of the programming is very enjoyable.

>>721145512
I'm legit shocked he doesn't have a farms thread already

>>721150507
much appreciated kind anon
cant wait to get back into blender
once the template is set up its going to get filled out with proper enemies bosses and the whole shebang

>>721150218
>beelining to the goal while ignoring every guilty pleasure on the way is just not what humans do (unless you have giga-autism).
You can add all that fluff in future refactoring. That's what it is. "Fluff". Nobody cares if your character is blowing bubbles in his sleep while doing idle animation.

>Game development is more fluid than general software.
No it is not. General software (like, a website) also has UI designers, artists, and animation. Gamedev is a project. Not only programming project, of course, but it is an exercise in project management. Read "Masters of Doom": most of stagnating devs here are Romero's archetype.
>>"Romero is on the opposite end of the spectrum; Ion Storm is intended to be a very fun place to work, where "[game] design is law," and where technology must be created to realize the designer's vision, instead of the other way around. However, his lack of management and organizational focus leads to financially disastrous results."

>In indie dev, you don't have money as motivator to do your job
Lmao yeah, sure, that is why /agdg/ is full of comparisons of Banquet for Fools vs frienslop about digging a hole review count. Don't delude yourself, you all dream about making it.

That's unrelated, but I also tried learning drawing in the past, and I always noticed how "polishing the turd" phase is a constant among novice artists.

>>721150704
You're welcome anon!
I spend two weeks working on ui elements for quickslots and im back in blender and happily so. Learning blenders atrocious menu system is the real test.

>>721151471
Blender's menu is generally fine, until you start diving into drivers, and the graph editor.

>>721151135
>Nobody cares if your character is blowing bubbles in his sleep while doing idle animation.
People who see the game for the first time will care. More importantly, I care.

>Gamedev has "multiple people"
You should stop looking at solo indie dev and asking "why the hell do they not do the same thing as million dollar companies with a hundred employees? are they stupid?"

>John Romero
Guy who made games in different times. Maybe instead read localthunk's blog for a modern day equivalent. He started making the game feel good early on, and then kept adding new features up until the release. Did he fail?

>Don't delude yourself, you all dream about making it.
Isn't it more delusional to ASSUME it's gonna make you rich? Yeah the dream of success is at least part of why you bother, but statistically you will lose money on indie dev.
If you want to make big bucks as a game dev, you join a company as a cog in the machine, not do this.

>>721151568
Anon I have seen guys like this come in here, posts these walls of text already expecting pushback and question stupid shit.

>>721151705
Don't say that, I know it already but when someone else points it out I feel stupid for bothering.

>>721151568
>You should stop looking at solo indie dev and asking "why the hell do they not do the same thing as million dollar companies with a hundred employees? are they stupid?"
I look at the guys like Miziziziz, who's able to do a survival horror videogame in 3 days, and actually finished several projects already, some of which turned profit. You should learn a thing or two from his workflow.

The thing is, you trying to convince me that gamedev is actually quirky and fun way to waste your time and never finish a game and it's somehow a good thing when a dream game project haunts your mind for decades. Sounds more like you want to traumatize yourself with unfinished business.

>>721152181
It's the difference between a driven individual, and a game design bible to adhere to, vs. others just chipping away at something like a hobby.

>>721070809
Damn I'm glad I opened this thread so I could see this game.

>>721147679
You just don't see the ones that do the main loop because it takes so much time and isn't very showable. I've been working on that and the only thing I've posted here is a bit of artwork when I feel like taking it easy for a bit.

You can easily show an animation or new model to random strangers, but how many people would care about logs stepping through my combat system? Who wants to see a diagram of my data structures(that doesn't exist and woudl take me extra effort to make)?

I would guess that most people here are not experienced solo game developers with specialized pipelines and tools, they're hobbyists still learning how to do everything and often building their tools as they go. And they may only get to working on anything after job and household duties. Of course progress is slow.

>>721152181
Yeah Miz is successful, but at the same time he also has a LOT of code backlog to quickly piece together his projects. It's no coincidence all of his games look exactly the same. And to build that code collection, you either jump from one prototype to another, or you fuck around with ideas.

But look, like I said earlier I think you are right to some degree. I do think some people here would benefit from locking in and making their game more complete instead of fucking around too much.
At the same time I think most people here are progressing nicely at their own pace, and most people here are not autistic enough for the hyper-efficiency development style you're suggesting. It's a balancing act, and going full retard on either side is not a recipe for success.

>>721149508
Rail shooter? I would kill for another Crisis Zone/Razing Storm

>faggoot has been at it for more than 24 hours, since last thread even
Sometimes I get alternative optimistic thoughts that there's somebody else larping as him, like some sort of smear campaign or personal grudge...
However the fact the actual dude doesn't vindicate himself by taking up a tripcode or clarifying shit on his website just dismisses everything.
Literal fucking psychopath. No meds needed, just a straitjacket and a padded room.
>>721150518
What do they do anyway besides gossip like roasties?

>>721152179
Dont feel stupid, it shows you have the knowledge and understanding which, in turn, is also self awareness a lot of people should have especially nodevs starting out.

>>721151471
ive already gained some experience with blender prior
i dig it and somewhat feel comfortable with its ui workflow

>>721152724
>Rail shooter?
yup my dude
>I would kill for another Crisis Zone/Razing Storm
yeah theres far too few these days
if you got any wishes let me know and i ll try to implement the functionality
ive been studying virtua cop 3 and time crisis 2 as of late
just got the seconds timer working and focused implementing the milliseconds for that extra feeling of thrill and tension
the seconds counter will be larger than the milliseconds

>>721153153
Im just salty from being a Maya/3dsmax user for a bit, but i get how the basics work now in blender.

>>721153153
whoops the vid didnt get attached

>>721153153
Definitely look into utilizing lots of environmental destruction, stuff should break/show signs of damage if shot. Flying bits of paper, concrete chunks, breaking glass, that sort of thing. Maybe also gimmicks using said environmental destruction to reward the observant with a spectacular setpiece that can wipe out a screen's worth of enemies or a nastier miniboss instantly
Time Crisis series epsecially has tons ot examples and Crisis Zone/Razing Storm amps that up to 11

>>721153410
>Definitely look into utilizing lots of environmental destruction
oh dont you worry
thats in the making once i transfer into focusing on assets
>Flying bits of paper, concrete chunks, breaking glass
same goes for particle effects
>Maybe also gimmicks using said environmental destruction to reward the observant with a spectacular setpiece that can wipe out a screen's worth of enemies or a nastier miniboss instantly
already got some small mini bosses in mind
both vehicular and humanoid types
its going to pretty over the top and stylized looking
>Time Crisis series epsecially has tons ot examples and Crisis Zone/Razing Storm amps that up to 11
i ll try my best anon

Haven't posted Cliax progress in a while, but all the content, the levels and bosses are done. Now comes the bug fixing, polish and editing. Thankfully I'm not a coder so I only gotta fix the script, not the bugs

anyone need programming help?
i will laugh at your code for free

>>721153737
Nice looking level. Getting a strong Sonic adventue 2 vibe from the background alone

>>721154245
Thanks! SA2 was a big inspiration for the game.

>>721153737
You know what would be cool? Didn't you do that Mario game about like a Salaryman? My unsolicited original idea I've never mentioned before is you should make the original retro sprite unlockable. Hopefully no one else has thought of this!
- Signed, Anonymous

>>721152927
At the very least they would distract him just for talking about him. Someone like fygoon will go running into a kiwifarms thread about himself and start antagonizing everyone there which will start a feeding frenzy. He isn't able to stop himself, he feels he needs to "win" and dominate everyone by refusing to leave even if he is banned, which is exactly what he is doing here for almost 2 years now. He thinks he has the right to abuse websites and break their TOS as he admits here >>721142039
and as you noticed he will plague these threads in 24 hour cycles when given the opportunity.
It's all about dominance with him. He is "dominating" us by spamming these threads and constantly dodging bans. He hasn't met his match yet and is simply lucky that we're all too nice to make a thread on kiwifarms.

>>721154416
That's certainly an idea I never heard before but Shi won't appear in Cliax Codec. He killed himself and is now busy doing menial office tasks in Hell. You would know this if you beat Hard Mode.

>>721154507
I did. Now about that unlockable...

>>721154598
Damn, I kneel

>>721154003
Laugh away
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{
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return sort_state_ == common::sort_order::name_asc
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[/code]

Started work on a second area. Finally got around to trying out baked lighting as well.

>>721101629
>admits he's banned from /v/3
Correct, you are not allowed as in banned. That's not what the other anon meant and you know that but you can't resist bringing it up because you're still in shock that you've experienced a consequence for trolling the 4chan gamedev community.
>>721122972
Why lie? You're not allowed, as in banned, which you already admitted above. And don't forget, if you didn't dodge your bans on this website nobody would even know your game exists. Being banned from numerous places and refusing to accept it is like your main thing. It's your defining trait and what you will be remembered for.

>>721155274
>if you didn't dodge your bans on this website nobody would even know your game exists
Maybe people would be more willing to play his game. All this spamming and ban dodging for less than 500 downloads is kind of pathetic.

audio stream

woo
got the milliseconds timer working
gotta prettify and format it later with a more presentable font graphic display

>>721155429
Exactly it doesn't make sense when you consider he's supposed to be making a game, none of it is about the game for him. If he cared about his game he wouldn't use it as a tool to antagonize 4chan. He doesn't plan to ever finish or release the game because he knows it's bad and he already burned it's reputation to the ground. His game is just a prop for him now to antagonize the internet and also tell himself and other people that he's doing something with his time. He's obsessed with pretending to be a functional productive person.

Thread is autosaging quick post goblins

>>721125213
Kiwifarms would be the end of him. He won't be able to stay away from it. He'll spend all of his time there egging on people who will just keep digging and digging into his cringe. He will go out and do and say stupid things to spite them and they will only find it more and more hilarious. His days as a gamedev will be pretty much forgotten as he spirals into legendary lolcow status.

Got the basic mechanics working for my roguelike deckbuilder choose 1 of 3 anime catgirl game.

>>721081704
It's crazy how you consider your game some kind of tool to "invade" 4chan and win imaginary battles. Any time you were remotely relevant to agdg years ago is now a big deal in your mind because you'll never have that again. You will never be a relevant gamedev. You never were a relevant gamedev. Your currents status and future as a lolcow is all you have.

>>721146678
Here have a pity reply. Seems to be all you can accomplish anymore.

>>721134398
NTA but proc gen code is pretty hard

>>721081454
>>721081704
agdg still gasses fygoon up to keep him around as a lolcow. All they have to do is mention him and he does his little doggy tricks to make them laugh. Then he comes to /v/ and seethes about them after the euphoria of being mentioned wears off and he remembers he's just a lolcow. This is his daily routine.

>>721156282
>His days as a gamedev will be pretty much forgotten as he spirals into legendary lolcow status.
This already happened a long time ago. Nobody cares about fydarian tale. The dev is a gigantic clown.

hey fygoon, how long do you think it'll take for this thread to stop talking about after you finally clue in and hang yourself
i give it 3 days max

>>721158090
He's a level 8000 narcissist, they don't harm themselves for any reason or give in to like despair or anything, which is good because that would be just more sadness to his already sad story and his future as a lolcow on kiwifarms is very bright.

So......productive thread?