Thread 721074346

Prove you're not a zoomer by naming 3 games harder than Silksong

>>721074346 (OP)
Your mom x3

The game of life (I'm gonna lose it anyway)

I just started Sekiro and have had more frustration with it in 2 days than with the entirety of Silksong.

>>721074573
>>721074401
Kys brown redditards

>>721074761
>I can't play a basic rhythm game

Literally any platformer on the nes. Anything from mega Man to Contra

>>721074346 (OP)
contra
battletoads
jackie-chan

>>721074857
Mega Man games aren't hard

>>721074857
Neither of those are harder or even close zooms

>>721074346 (OP)
Chess
Go
Poker

>>721074346 (OP)
why do zoomers hate hard games? it's the only way you can get really involved with gameplay and engrossed with what's happening
the only worth in video games is cognitive challenge

>>721074346 (OP)
Ninja Gaiden
Silver Surfer
Battle Toad

Contra
Ninja Gaiden
Cheetahmen

>>721074346 (OP)
alien soldier
ninja gaiden
life of black tiger

>>721074983
Silver Surfer is pisseasy. Ninja Gaiden is tricky but no where near as hard as Silksong

>>721074346 (OP)
castelvania 1
catslevania 2
castlevania 3

megaman zero
hard corps uprising
space harrier
silksong is pretty easy though. literally easier than rabi ribi
it's literally easier than cave story desudesu

>>721074346 (OP)
Mushihimesama
F-Zero GX
Wizardry 4

>>721075034
zazed

>>721074849
I played through all of sekiro and still can't figure out what the fuck you're supposed to do with the bull so I always kill him by bruteforcing

>>721074346 (OP)
The Super Star Wars games.

>Silksong harder than NES Ninja Gaiden
Oh, it's a bait thread

>>721074346 (OP)
I just watched this and I think he misses the most important thing about “constant difficulty”, and doesn’t discuss it at all. Game with variable difficulty settings can be cleared by everyone, but that means they can be cleared alone. Games with uniform difficulty inspire conversation. Every player has the same experience of challenge, so they have a meaningful reason to compare notes. It builds a community out of the fanbase. He provides Tunic as an example, where his wife loved the game but had to turn on combat assist mode; people talk about the puzzles and lore in Tunic. Nobody talks about the combat. The combat is skippable so if you’re stuck you can skip it.

DeS and DaS figured this out. Their difficulty was important because it built a community out of discussing solutions to a shared problem. That’s not something you can just brush past when discussing difficulty in games.

>>721074937
durf fortress dev says they are

>>721074857
bullshit
games weren't as hard back then
now games are either VERY DIFFICULT or DOWN SYNDROME PISSEASY

>>721074919
>>721074937
I didn't say they were the hardest ever. They're harder than Silksong, which is easy. If you really want a hard game, how about you try your own life.

>>721074346 (OP)
dark souls
dark souls 2
dark souls 3

>>721075281
>games weren't as hard back then
oh my sweet zoom zoom

>>721074346 (OP)
I Wanna Be the Guy
Battletoads
Back to the Future parts 2&3 for the NES

>>721075207
DeS wasn't even a hard game. it built a community out of the abstract storytelling and esoteric mechanics, the only hard games miyazaki directed before dark souls were last raven and for answer's hard mode

>>721074346 (OP)
Uh, um
Dark Souls
Battletoads
Jackie Cha- FUCK

>>721074346 (OP)
jackie chan stuntmaster

>>721075056
>megaman zero
Only if you start with a zero elf run
>hard corps uprising
Only for arcade no death
>space harrier
Only for no death
>silksong is pretty easy though.
Definitely not
>it's literally easier than cave story desudesu
Absolutely not, not even close, even for hell run. Only for hard mode that has only 3HP but that's a shitty meme mode added by Nicalis that was never in the original

Half Life
Dariusburst Chronicle Saviours
Scarlet Nexus (on Hard or Very Hard difficulty)

Hard games are just training for life. The point is to understand living is a constant state of warfare and the universe will fuck you in the ass for ever thinking otherwise.
It's also why video games are explicitly a male hobby. Having a vagina is easy mode.

>>721075406
>half life

>>721074346 (OP)
spyro the dragon
wings of vi
castlevania

>>721074346 (OP)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Silver Surfer
Jackie Chan

>>721075290
You can go from first time to deathless run in both of those in less time than it even takes to beat Act 1 in Silksong

>>721075472
The assassins are pretty difficult

>>721075487
Most Castlevania games are easy dumbass

>>721075405
The last stage in Cave Story is harder than anything in Silksong.
And Silksong doesn't even do anything interesting with its difficulty. Bunny Must Die at least penalizes you for dying with time taken off your speedrun clears which is a genius way to do death in Metroidvanias and always ask for no death clears.

>>721075532
the ones after nes are very easy

>>721074913
>jackie-chan
Action Kung Fu, Fists of Fire or Stuntmaster?

Nioh
Nioh2
Battletoads

>>721075536
The last stage being hell? That's optional, and even still, it takes like 30 mins to an hour, which is less than many single bosses in Silksong.

>>721075195
NG has unlimited continues, is very short, and is largely easy outside of the final level and specifically the final boss. And even the final boss is easily beat with spin magic. NG's difficulty is massively overstated. The 3D games on MNM are way harder

>>721075030
>Silver Surfer is pisseasy
Zoooom zoooom zooooooooooooooom

>>721074346 (OP)
Dark Souls I
Dark Souls II
Dark Souls III

>>721075853
It's one of the easiest shmups out there, even by console standards, which are pisseasy compared to arcade. It took a single day to beat it deathless from blind

>>721074346 (OP)
Ghosts n goblins
Ninja gaiden
Jackie Chan
FUCK

>>721075532
when I say castlevania, I mean the game called castlevania on the nes, retard

>>721075532
The first Castlevania is called "Castlevania". Not Castlevania I, just Castlevania. It's the name of the game

>>721075803
>NG has unlimited continues
So does silksong, the difference is run backs in ninja gaiden are both longer and MUCH harder

>>721075231
Well they require different skills. A friend of mine has 100%'d every Dark Souls game but is terrible at platformers. She finds Silksong to be quite the challenge. I haven't played it but I've played a gazillion platformers since I was a kid, so I'm pretty used to them.

>>721076042
ghosts n goblins is brutal

>>721075895
NTA but you never played it?

>>721074346 (OP)
Rayman 1
The Legend of Valkyrie
Metal Slug

Far Cry 2 infamous mode
Crackdown Insane mode (single player)
Manhunt Fetish mode

>>721076203
I played it with a savestate at the start of every stage and I still have up on the stage after I think it was a ship?
I don't know how Arino does it bros...

Metroid Prime 2
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Catherine

>>721074346 (OP)
Sonic 3, megaman x, need for speed carbon. maybe dark souls or sekiro could cut in as a replacement for carbon

>>721075487
>spyro the dragon
lol
I'm bad at vidya and I 100% it.

>>721075054
lol no

>>721076261
>Mode
If the game isn't difficult on its default mode it doesn't count

>>721076395
Dark souls is an easy game and I'm not even trolling
Anyone that beat elden ring, sekiro or das3 can beat dark souls in like 40h with less than ten deaths overall if they even remotely tried

Elder Ring
Super Meat Boy
Super Meat Boy 2

>>721076448
Darn I thought I was genuinely contributing. :(

kof 94.
kof 95.
Contra NES.
Metal slug if you try to do 1CC.

>>721076448
pussy take
games are made to be played on the hardest difficulty. far cry 2 on infamous is fucking incredible desu

>>721074346 (OP)
IWBTG
Rogue Legacy
DDR

>>721076174
Having limited lives dissuades most people, you spend your lives taking 1 boss but go back to the beginning. smb you have a warp in 1 and can continue thats ez

>>721074346 (OP)
For you?
>not ritualposting
>not sucking cock
>affording games

>>721076174
Dark Souls games aren't hard. They're explicitly made to be accessible through slow combat.

>>721076407
it'd overwhelm the zoomer into fear and submission with liminal spaces, and the flight challenges

>>721074346 (OP)
Subterranean Animism
DoDonPachi
Beatmania

>>721074346 (OP)
Dark souls 3 was harder for me because bosses are cheating twats and everything except dmg stats is cosmetic in this game
Rayman 1
Rabi-ribi on actual hardest difficulty

>>721074346 (OP)
I can't believe we've reached a point in where a game that has the "insolence" to retry a level or a boss a few times, spending maybe a day or two in very particular cases, is now scandal worthy

>>721075115
get away from him, he'll charge you, he'll lower head and do a horn[y] attack. deflect lets you get 2 predictable safe attacks to his head (takes extra dmg/posture there), rinse repeat

>>721077483
If the levels weren't annoying to traverse no one would be complaining. It's irritating by design, and has the effect of snowballing frustration the more times you die which is discouraging.

>>721074346 (OP)
Banjo Kazooie
Meet N' Fuck Kingdom, Steve
Jackie Chan

>>721074346 (OP)
Ghosts and goblins
Donkey Kong Country tropical Freeze
NEBULOUS: Fleet Command
I am a zoomer though, yet earlier today I saw a thread of a man born in 96 just like I am insisting he's millennial, both wrong for thinking he was one and wrong for wanting to be one

>>721074849
Not him but the parts I had the most trouble with were mostly the parts that debated from just being about swinging and countering

>>721077704
They aren't outside of one area that's purposefully designed to be like that.

>>721077483
The issue with Silksong is the awful map design, slow movement speed and walkbacks to bosses. I get the last thing is done to actually give weight to death and that's fair enough (the game gets stupidly easy once you learn how to parry), but the map and movement speed are unjustifiable desu

>>721076532
Well I meant dark souls like the whole family with elden ring and such but excluding sekiro that's somewhat different.
But yeah carbon is harder than either so that was my 3rd pick instead

>>721078037
there's plenty areas that are annoying to traverse. Apart from bilewater there are numerous instances of the devs placing a flying projectile throwing enemy in the middle of a platforming section just to fuck with you. It isn't significantly hard to deal with it just takes a ton of time and is annoying as shit when all you want to do is just fly through the screen to the next one.

>>721074346 (OP)
Hotline Miami 2
9 Sols
Ninja Gaiden

>>721078305
>Nine Sols
lol

>>721074346 (OP)
Sekiro
Spelunky (HD/2)
Celeste

>>721074913
>>721074983
>>721075347
>>721075378
>>721075793

I think Battletoads will always be the hardest simply because every level has a completely different playstyle and new mechanics. You basically have to master 12 different games to actually beat it. Most people get filtered by the Turbo Tunnel but some of the later levels like Terra Tubes and Rat Race are way harder.

>>721074346 (OP)
I am geniunly baffled what's peoples malfunction with this very standard Metroidvania is.

t.Shitter that thought games like Doom TDA was hard.

>>721078450
rat race killed my deathless run. thanks battletoads

>>721074919
Even the easiest Mega Man game is harder than Silksong. You're not going to gaslight us faggot.

>>721078450
It's just like a W101 pure platinum run but without the luxury of endless retries.

>>721078405
Harder than Silksong at least.

>>721074346 (OP)
ultima, ultima and ultima

>>721074346 (OP)
Someone could just name 3 random shmups or other arcade games. Pointless thread.

>>721074919
Harder then Silksong retard.

>>721074346 (OP)
>SpaceChem
>Baba is You
>The Witness
This makes it sound like I'm calling myself dumb, but only games that require intelligence are actually hard.

>>721074346 (OP)
Metroid 1
Ghosts 'n Goblins
Comix Zone

>>721078673
To put it another way, after 10,000 hours, practically anyone could beat practically any reaction-based game. But not anyone could beat SpaceChem.

>>721074346 (OP)
If runback is all people are sperging about then any 8 bit or 16 bit game is harder.

>>721078570
Mega Man 2 is so piss easy (especially because of the easy difficulty for westerners) anyone can beat it in one sitting and that's precisely why it's the favorite of casuals.

>>721078741
This isn't really true. You can brute force a lot of puzzle games until you come across the solution through simple elimination. It still requires some ingenuity from your part but it's not that different from retrying mechanical challenges until you get it right.

>>721074346 (OP)
Dodonpachi
La-mulana
Ultrakill

>>721078853
If you can beat MM2 without dying you can easily do the same in Silksong while also getting the speedrun achievement

>>721074346 (OP)
Elmos letter adventure
Elmos number journey
Hungry Pumpkin

>>721074346 (OP)
Shining in the Darkness
Phantasy Star 2
Phantasy Star 3

>>721078826
The sad part is runbacks aren't even that bad. Almost all enemies are avoidable and several have secret entrances/exits.

>>721074761
suckiro is not a good game, despite what the weebs here claim

>>721074761
Stick with it. It gets really good once you get to Genichiro

>>721074346 (OP)
Max Payne 3
God of War: Ascension
Armored Core: Last Raven

>>721074401
OP's mom is the easiest game in town

>>721079940
This anon is lying, it never gets good.

>>721079775
>the the
oof

>>721079687
Having shit taste is ok.

>>721080181
skill issue

>>721079775
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>721079775
I dont get it

>>721080334
Then why do I like "the hardest game ever conceived" Silksong :)

>>721074346 (OP)
>Prove you're not a zoomer by being a zoomer

>>721074346 (OP)
IWBTG
Contra
Silver Surfer

>>721074346 (OP)
Rabi-ribi
Pre nerf Souldiers
La Mulana
SS isn't even remotely the hardest game in the genre

>>721074346 (OP)
mario
mario 2
mario 3

>>721074761
Sekiro had a really rough start for me because it feels like that there is a delay in the button presses, i think it is one of those games that the action only happens after you release the button not when you press it. But once you get it used to it then it gets fun.

>>721074857
Castlevania 1 and 3, sure. Megaman? Fuck off, no it's not.

>>721074346 (OP)
idk i never played silksong and i never will

>>721074346 (OP)
Super Ghouls and Ghosts
The Immortal
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES)

>>721074849
>rhythm game
People who say this are retarded and don't knoe what rhythm actually is.

>>721074346 (OP)
Blade of Darkness

Ninja Gaiden Black
Ninja Gaiden 2
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge

>>721074346 (OP)
Underrail on Dominating
Nlc 7
Ninja gaiden 2 on master ninja
Ninja gaiden 3 Razor's Edge on ultimate ninja
Dmc 3 dmd

>>721082160
That platforming bit near the start of Wily stage is harder than anything in any game released in the past 25 years.

>>721074346 (OP)
Super Star Wars

>>721074849
Good job repeating a redditism you read. Try and original thought next.

>>721074952
chess is peak zoomer culture

>>721074346 (OP)
Resonance of Fate
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Ninja Gaiden

>>721074346 (OP)
DoDonPachi
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou
DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu

>>721074346 (OP)
hollow kinght
silksong 1
that metroidvania bug game I forgor the name of

>>721082685
Chess is boomer culture. Too much thinking is required for zoomies to get into it.

>>721076245
No I cleared it deathless retard, I just said that

>>721074346 (OP)
never played silksojng and never will

>>721074346 (OP)
Alundra, Heart of Darkness, Jak 2.
>>721075056
Sweet Jesus don't get me started on this one. Anyway, Silk and Song's problem isn't difficulty. It's a slog to playthrough just like with Sekiro. By the time you advance or repeat the areas where you fuck up there isn't much incentive to replay or experience more of it because the experience has gone from joy to exasperation and perspiration. And, if it's work I need doing I can find it in much more enjoyable and productive endeavors.

>>721076167
Silksong is way harder and has one life, NG has multiple lives, is linear, way shorter, OP magic.

Most people play a couple hours max of NG and call it hard,

>>721082829
do you live under a rock?

>https://metapress.com/the-rise-of-chess-streamers-why-gen-z-cant-stop-watching-the-sicilian-defense/
>https://inytimes.pressreader.com/article/281487870660863
>https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/top-gen-z-players-are-stronger-than-top-millennial-players-were-at-the-same-age

>>721074346 (OP)
I can't, because I didn't play silksong so I have no reference point.

There should be a site similar to how long to beat called how hard is this game where players would rate the difficulty of a game out of ten to give potential buyers an idea of where they're about to step in.

>>721078052
>slow movement speed
Are you still playing hollow knight?

DODODODODODODODODODODONPACHI!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>721076042
>FUCK
Which game is that?

>all these sekiro haters
damn, i didn't know so many people actually had shit taste

>>721082996
Next these journalists are gonna say zoomers like Akira Kurosawa movies and 1930s jazz.

>>721081105
it's a reference to THE GAME, an old 4chan meme from around 2016. basically, the rules are: anytime you read THE GAME, it means you lose! heheh.. mad yet?

>>721082996
It's a game that existed since forever, saying it has a generation is retarded >_>

>>721083505
nioh 2 does it better

The entire Adventure Island series
The original Ninja Gaiden series, plus the first two 3D ones
Legend of the Mystical Ninja
Battletoads
First run of Devil May Cry
Donkey Kong Country 2
SMB The Lost Levels
Ghosts & Goblins
Maximo
GBC Mario Tennis
THPS4
Prince of Persia
F-Zero GX
Talking to girls
Finding meaningful employment
Figuring out what makes you happy

Sekiro
Ninja Gaiden
Ghost & Goblins, any version
>what's the point of hard games?
I don't wanna play on baby mode

>>721074346 (OP)
Umihara Kawase
Umihara Kawase Shun
Sayonara Umihara Kawase

>>721074346 (OP)
How about IN THE SAME GENRE? My take:
>Grime
>Nine Sols
>Wings of Vi

>>721074346 (OP)
karate kid
silver surfer
battletoads

>>721074346 (OP)
Mega Man and Bass
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
La Mulana

>>721078052
I thought sprinting would ease the tedium but devs just made the map proportionally bigger -_-

>>721085027
>>721085118
Two posers

>>721084394
lmao

>>721074849
If sekiro is a rhythm game, dark souls and ER are taiko.

>>721082581
Reddit retards are the ones praising such a shallow game.

>>721074346 (OP)
Pokemon Red
Dragon Ball Z Budokai
Chess

Tower of Druaga
Super Monkey Ball
Lion King

>>721084758
Grime is a joke. Nine Sols isn't hard either.

>>721074346 (OP)
Ys
Sekiro
Winnie The Pooh: Home Run Derby

>>721074346 (OP)
Towerclimb
La-Mulana
Bunny Must Die
Aurora 4x

>>721075536
>>721088065
Samefag tranny

>>721075803
Bloodstained sanctuary hard mode + Ballos fight is harder than anything on HK or Silksong. Not even P5 compares.

>>721088250
No shit retard, hard mode is a tranny meme mode added by nicalis that was never in the original.

If I added a mode where you die in one hit instead of 20, almost any game becomes hard, fucking retard.

>>721081340
Silksong is easy if you aren't retarded

>>721088526
No, it's harder than 99% of games, even most of the hardest retro games

>>721074346 (OP)
ff7 rebirth
alundra
elden ring

>>721074953
Because they're the ultimate consoomers.
They don't even play games themselves, but rather pay people to play them instead through streamer donations.

Cuphead was pretty popular a few years ago and was way harder, why is the internet pretending Silksong is the hardest game ever?

>>721088702
Cuphead was easier for normal mode not caring about rankings.

Expert S-ranks is way harder but most people don't go for those

Battletoads(NES)
Battletoads in Battlemaniac
Battletoads(Arcade)

>>721088793
I died way more times to the average Cuphead boss than the average Silksong boss, and it forced you to really learn the boss while in Silksong a good enough attempt + spamming tools usually nets you the win.

>>721088702
No tedium in Cuphead you can just retry instantly, it doesn't make it easier but it feels easier

>>721088952
Cuphead was literally only bosses wjth no runbacks. No shit

I'm playing these and they're pretty annoying

>>721089243
Ezpz

>>721074346 (OP)
Megaman
Megaman 2
Megaman 3
I can go on if you like

>>721074346 (OP)
Literally any NES platformer.

Even easy stuff like Super Mario Bros 1 are harder than silksong
>limited lives
>no checkpoints close to bosses
>you die in 1 hit

Youtube "essayist" shilling thread, leeching on Silksong.
NOT VIDYA

so gays, how is the new 2d ng game?
is it at the very least fun?

>>721075281
Silksong has unlimited lives, checkpoints close to bosses and you have ability to heal. It's like playing NES games with cheats on or with save states.

>>721089693
there is no war in Ba Sing Se

>silksong
>hard
I don't have a meme of Eminem throwing a poison cogfly so you'll just have to pretend I posted it here

>>721088581
nah, those are still harder

>>721074849
I actually can't. I suck really bad at real rhythm games