Thread 721093814

Find a flaw. No bullshit.

>>721093814 (OP)
story falls apart after act 1
stupid qte/simon says combat system

thats about it which doesnt sound much but in actuality fucks the entire game

Games way too easy. They didn't respect their players enough to make more difficult fights. Clea and Simon should be entry level super bosses.

>>721093814 (OP)
QTE simulator masquerading as "parries."

>>721093814 (OP)
Combat isn't very engaging and the non-story roaming encounters feel like a waste of time.

>>721093814 (OP)
Characters have disgusting mole ridden skin like every other westernslop, it's unplayable dogshit, not as bad as Cyberpunk though

>>721093814 (OP)
Lune, Sciel, and Monoco get sidelined very hard in terms of the story in act 3. Also the occasional UE5 jank everyone blows out of proportion.

It makes me want to do a challenge run because of how confusing the upgrade systems are at first. I've played the entire game without doing any upgrades, weapon changes, or skill changes so far and I'm at the brush-people village.

Act 3 needs an item or ability to mark locations you've been because it's not fun trying to keep track of all the various areas and your completion of them and by that point in the game you're aware of what the situation really is.

I'll never get to impregnate Lune

>>721093814 (OP)
act 3 scaling gets wonky. you either smash through fights or get smashed, and if you do the side content then the final dungeon is too easy.

>>721095363
what

>>721093814 (OP)
>First strikes occasionally don't register when either you or an enemy are on sloped/inclined surfaces
>Failing or succeeding action commands don't affect characters' animations so the damage increase brought about by the latter is completely arbitrary
>The unconventional timing of lots of attacks is self-defeating because you quickly get used to it regardless which together with its lack of any toggles for faster/shortened animations (unlike at least one of its major influences from 26 years prior) makes even initially difficult encounters feel like going through the motions past a certain point
>Overuse of slow-mo to throw off your timing with regard to the above when the creature designs show that the devs are too creative not to have thought of some more varied ways to achieve this (e.g. enemies characterised as great fighters like the Gestral boxers or Dualliste could've used feints instead)
>Defence is functionally identical for every character which feels like wasted potential in contrast to how great their unique offensive mechanics are (apart from Gustave's comparatively boring arm charge)
>Art direction's similarly let down by the camera almost never deviating from the over-the-shoulder view, so moments like finally reaching the Monolith aren't treated with any more significance than any other nondescript area (arguably less than the handful of featureless rooms where you collect music records given that they each have unique viewpoints)
>Builds/strategies almost invariably take a backseat to parrying because it's the simultaneously most reliable source of damage/protection/AP for the overwhelming majority of them
Initially thought it was great after I'd just beaten it but have eventually come to feel that it's just alright (even if it's still clear for many reasons why it'd be among someone's favorites) and that a non-insignificant degree of the praise it's gotten is inversely proportional to how many other JRPGs its fans have played

>>721095704
This, and Act 3 varies wildly between you just stomping enemies or getting stomped.

Besides that though, pretty much a perfect game.

>>721093814 (OP)
The asian lady is barefoot for some reason.

>>721096326
That's a good thing.

>>721096257
I don't like JRPGs because they always expect you to grind way too much, and gather components for crafting items and gear, etc lots of stuff like that, just pointless timesinks that aren't fun. There was no grinding in E33 so that alone puts it ahead of the majority of JRPGs.

>>721096326
That's a bad thing.

>>721093814 (OP)
apparently ue5slop with ugly, blurry visuals and poor framerates are FINE so long as the story is good

>>721093814 (OP)
The characters are generic and the dialogue is as badly written and as cringey as Marvel slop dialogue.
Anyone who thinks the writing is good is actually braindead.

>>721093814 (OP)
Act 3

>>721096859
You play a lot of Japanese games.

>>721096772
The story isn't even good though.

UE5 that's all, the game is great

>>721097053
what's bad about it?

>>721093814 (OP)
No minigames like Blitzball.

>>721097196
There are minigames. Like the obstacle courses, or that explosive tennis game

>>721097161
>Let's turn an epic adventure into a boring family drama about rich assholes you don't give a shit about because the writers want to force in an unnecessary meta plot twist!
Retards who likes this game are no better than cattle.

>>721093814 (OP)
Can't listen to expedition recordings/journals while playing, have to stare at the text or close the screen which stops the audio.

Overworld music becomes repetitive, and Enrique needs more voice lines.

>>721093814 (OP)
Overrated garbage.

>>721097421
>mad that it's not just another generic JRPG story about a group of plucky heroes killing god and saving the world
lol

>>721093814 (OP)
Act3 wasn't balanced. they can easily fix the damage problem with 999999 cap then gate full damage behind a super boss. the real problem is verso/sciel can easily skip turn

Location names goes away if you zoom out the map a little, it's odd. Wonky to control on keyboard. Also applies to combat, some keypresses doesn't register.

Going through the pictos (I think they were called) is time consuming, on PC they could have added a search by name at least.

>>721097778
Could have made the limit a percentage of the enemy's total health (and you can improve that percentage), would make early enemies last to the endgame.

For me Verso was the strongest btw.

>>721098130
Maelle and Verso were both my heavy hitters, usually with Sciel as support. But I hear some people build Lune into a monster that can solo most things

>>721093814 (OP)
>Shallow gameplay
all you can do is basic turnbased combat, it doesnt involve strategy or tactics, a lot of invisible walls and cant jump where you want
>Shallow Level design
Most of the levels are one or two rooms visual spectacle, then you have the main areas which have some shorcuts but pale in comparison to actual good level design
>Story issues
The story pacing is fucked, after the reveal that the whole thing is fake all the stakes are suddenly gone, it relies on mystery to carry it and once that mystery is revealed everything goes to shit
>Characters
The cast is underdeveloped and halfbaked, the companions side quests were dogshit shallow trash and they are treated horribly and given zero agency over anything
>Unbalanced encounter design
After you finish act 2 the game turns into a total mess, any "wrong" exploration fucks the whole balance of the game, even if you do it right, with the existence of basic pictos the game gets solved completely
>Too much parryslop spam
Especially in act 3, the game turns to full blown parryslop where enemies have long chain attacks and all you have to do is spam the same button to avoid damage AND retaliate for free, making it the best tool in the whole game and rendering strategy useless.
Also it makes replaying a fight more tedius than ever or if you want to flee, you have to wait for the chain attacks to be finished
>Graphically incompetent
While the game looks pretty the texture popin and graphic rendering is actual dogshit and destroys any sense of immersion you may have with the world.

>>721097765
That would have been better than the retarded plot they came up with. Can you even defend that pathetic story without mentioning JRPGs?

Level design of basically all the side content but especially in act 3 felt really lackluster. All the really cool visually distinct zones were act 1 besides Sirene

>>721093814 (OP)
Combat is not engaging enough to deserve focus but not simple enough like a jrpg that you can just veg on the couch and play
Its sluggish with how menus are navigated and directionless despite being FFX levels of hallway design
Narratively tries to make you care at the start but only succeeds in making you question why you didnt go on the last expedition to stop it before the girl you liked died instead of waiting for her to die and then going

>>721094059
Clea and simon are one of the easiest bosses in the game, just one shot them.
The only challenging endgame bosses are the paintress and Renoir 2

>>721098268
Yeah. I liked the story and thought it was cool. The twist added a lot more depth to the events and the characters, and overall feeling of the game and the weight of the struggle. Like everything else in the game, it felt fresh which is rare to find in games these days.

>e33 fag seeking validation again
Why are they like this?

>>721098380
>contrarianfag seeking attention again
Why are you like this?

>>721093814 (OP)
combat is shit and boring

>>721098339
You realize that half the cast doesn't have a presence at all after act 2, right? You could literally remove Sciel, Lune and Monocco entirely and the story wouldn't change at all. That's how badly these characters are written.
Oh, and killing off the protagonist for no reason at all just for "shock value" was such a smart story decision as well! Almost like the whole script was written by a clueless redditor.

>>721093814 (OP)
never gonna try this game becasue the first thing i saw about it was a french streamer insulting french-canadian about not being french. not a joke, i barely know anything about this game but im sure the dev paid him to shill it, so fuck them too, i dont think streamers should insult potential audience, as if i am going to give them a penny or even a second thought after this post, idk who was the streamer, i just wanted to see the game and got insulted for free instead, fuck them

>>721098263
Yeah I saw a video of Lune doing 100 million in damage each hit against Simon with 100 times health.

>>721098519
After Act 2, the game is almost over so that's not a huge thing, but I get your point there. I don't think they were badly written at all though, honestly I think the dialogue in this game, both the writing and how it's expressed is some of the best ever put into a game, it feels real and believable, like they're not just characters but actually people which is ironic

But I disagree that they just killed Gustave for shock value, it was an integral part of Maelle's character and a main point of division between her and Verso. It served a major narrative purpose, it wasn't just a hollow spectacle.

For an RPG, it could have used a more fleshed out world (towns), and a couple of optional hidden party members.
They probably should have had some mandatory stuff to do in between getting the air ship and ending the game. I don't really feel inclined to explore if I feel like the narrative is pushing me along to the conclusion.

>>721098524
You will never be french or even canadian pajeet

>>721098741
>honestly I think the dialogue in this game, both the writing and how it's expressed is some of the best ever put into a game, it feels real and believable
This is why I don't take you E33fags seriously. The writing is shit tier and you don't even realize it.

>>721098519
I feel like Sciel and Lune flat out hardly have a presence in the game.

>>721099021
What are some games with better writing, in your opinion? Not a gotcha, genuinely curious, because I can't think of very many and I've played a lot of games, probably too much.

>>721099031
They have a pretty strong presence until the end of Act 2, and after that it's kinda spotty until the very end where they really get shown and expressed much again.

>>721093814 (OP)
It should have one more playable character.
x niggas in a row needs to have 2x or more characters. This way there could be cool sections like in FF6 or FF8 where you play as two parties in different places.

>>721093814 (OP)
>Do you want to spend some time with X?
The game should just have spread characters out a bit and played the dialogue/cutscene when you walk up to them.

>>721097778
A cap is a bandaid fix, they were just overly lazy with pictos when stacking so many % damage modifiers makes you deal some Diablo 3 tier damage.

>>721093814 (OP)
it insists upon itself

>>721099260
No, fuck bg3

It's not on Switch 2

>>721093814 (OP)
It's a movie game. It's good, I liked it a lot, but it's a movie game and it would have been better as an actual movie (or a tv show if they wanted to drag it out for 10+ hours, which is not necessary btw). QTEs do not = gameplay ever.

>>721098907
canadian was term used to describe us french in canada, when canada became independant, the english stole our name/identity, they were refering themself as britanic before that, the canadian term was reserved for french people, and english people thought they were better than us so they didnt' want to be called by the same name. and also it doesnt matter where i am born, if a mouse is born in a stable, it doesnt make it a horse, if you look into my family, you will find out that the first of my line were french soldier that came with Le régiment de Carignan-Salières and were given lands as payment for their military service (or else they would have to return to france with a lot less) so please dont say im not french, i am more french than most of frenchmen in france and dont call me Québécois because it is insulting and completly missing the point

>>721099220
I would have liked all 5 in combat. 2 could have been offscreen and can't be attacked but you could use their skills (gets few AP unless swapped into front row).

One of the girls should have had a canon sexual relationship with Verso, instead of the sloppily integrated Persona social bonds system.
The whole ending scene of Lune fuming at Verso hits more of you know they fucked, as opposed to it being a player choice that doesn't really matter, and some dialogue you probably hammered through.

>>721093814 (OP)
Act 3 sucks. Almost all boss level fights are the same DDR after 2-3 turns.

>>721099590
The Legend of Dragoon was a movie game too.

Look at this, over 30 minutes of pre-rendered cutscenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enLtJz90MSw
And this isn't even including all the in-game cutscenes, which is probably at least 15 hours.

>>721096859
I legitimately can’t think of a video game with better writing than E33 Hell, I can’t think of any film or TV show this century with better writing than E33. Calling it “marvel writing” is just fucking nonsensical.

>>721099220
Should have had more Expeditioners scattered around the world, to encourage you to go off the path and explore.
The whole rebuilding the expedition part of the game is kind of underbaked, considering the game is called Expedition 33.

>>721093814 (OP)
>UE5 blurry slop
>parry slop
>objectively retarded plot

>>721097495
Who the FUCK is Enrique?

>>721099794
I've never played Legend of Dragoon. I'm not a JRPG guy at all (neither the Japanese or French variety) but I understand a lot of them have extensive, lenghty cutscenes in-between the gameplay.
Like I said, I liked E33 a lot but I don't think it did much to warrant being a game. Maybe the same can be said about other games.

>>721100225
It was 4 discs long.

>>721093814 (OP)
>short gallic subhumans
there
im not playing a game where the mc is a gay frog faggot

>>721100049
Mexican Esquie

>French
Hard pass.

>>721094023
I love qte, where can I find more games that do it?

The ending is kinda disappointing

>>721099954
Good morning sir.

>>721100696
Are you going to share what games you think have better writing and stories?

Side characters and side content in general (quests, world, npcs) are not expanded upon as much as they could be. Though I guess that's for lack of budget.

>>721096485
>they always expect you to grind way too much
this is probably because i've played so many jrpgs, but i'm one of those people that runs away from a lot of random encounters and i never really felt compelled to grind all that often, only for money and if i really wanted to build a character i liked. the only games where grinding ever felt mandatory was in pokemon before gen 6

>>721093814 (OP)
>Lack of QoL
Can't add Colours of Lumina while in the Lumina menu. Needs better fast travel. No transcript/backlog. Sorting feature in the inventory doesn't have options for actual useful things like sorting by learned or equipped Lumina.

>>721100796
They never do. It’s easy to laugh at the idea that it’s the best written game of all time but no one has ever provided a counter argument.

>>721101526
Hypnospace Outlaw

>>721101669
Wow a fucking meme point and click

>>721101774
yeah. Play it.

>>721101669
Hypnospace Outlaw is one of my favorite games, and the story is really well told, but I wouldn't call it an amazing story. It's presented very well, but I wouldn't say it's better than E33 in that regard.

I'm still really bummed that the sequel got cancelled.

>>721101774
Not at all, it's a lot deeper than it seems.

>>721101138
why does dark souls and elden ring get away with absolutely no Qol features, you can't even fucking pause the games

Gestral games. I'm not fucking playing Only Up.

>>721093814 (OP)
call me crazy but i dont think the music is even that good. I dont think the environments are particularly special considering it can literally be anything, the mobs are the same 7 mobs, They give you the most broken item ever if you explore even a little making the hardest difficulty incredibly simple, the characters are bland, the combat is simple. Persona 5 is substantially superior it took 10 years to make a game even sort of in that realm which is insane as that was the amount of time it took final fantasy to make 10 games Fuck me gaming is shit

>>721102046
E33 is good, but it's a little hackneyed. A little sloppy in places. Lune and Sciel not being very well fleshed out as characters at all is a very clear structural failing in the writing.

Hypnospace Outlaw is just great. I'm fully absorbed in a world consisting of dozens of characters all with their own intertwining storylines, every time I play that game. I feel like they're real people.

>>721102503
You can't pause because it's a multiplayer game.
If you want to go for a piss you can just return to the title screen, anyway.

>>721103189
No it's not, it has an optional multiplayer feature, doesn't make it a multiplayer game
>just restart 20 minutes of progress bro instead of simply pausing
Or you could just admit these games are badly designed, that would be great

>>721103072
>P5 has better characters and writing than E33
lol what? P3 is close, but still not better

>>721094023
The start only starts getting really good in act 2, you're retarded.

>>721103369
If you're playing the game correctly, you could interact with the online features at any moment. You could get invaded whenever. You can't just pause other players.
>just restart 20 minutes of progress
That's not how the save system works. Bonfires aren't Metroid save rooms. If you quit the game, it saves your exact location, and then you just load right back in.

>>721093814 (OP)
QTE gameplay

>>721103104
Doesn’t hackneyed mean not original? I would argue that E33 is incredibly unique story wise.

>>721103104
Lune and Sciel are both fleshed out characters, but they inevitably fall to the wayside because they aren't fucking gods. Nobody that isn't a painter or an immortal has full say in the story because they can't actually do anything but make good points.

>>721096137
Moles and blemished skin are disgusting, western games are disgusting

>>721097495
>Overworld music becomes repetitive
this is a biggie for me, the overworld in act 2 especially is insufferable because of this
even just giving separate audio options for the overworld would be enough

>>721093814 (OP)
no maelle sex

>>721093814 (OP)
>Find a flaw.
verso

>>721101526
Because only a subhuman retard would think it's the best thing ever written by man.

>>721104205
I couldn't tell you anything about Lune. She's just there.

>>721105728
Researcher, stoic, overachiever, guitarist, sideways vagina.

>>721100049
You didn't find him?

>>721105139
Camp should have allowed you to tag music in the "what should I play?" list to have them randomize between those music tracks on the overworld.

>>721093814 (OP)
act 3 is waaaaayy too easy.
maybe I did too much optional content and optimized my team too much or something, but I found fucking everything to just never get a turn before I killed it.
only simon was a challenge and that's cause of his retardedly unfair mechanics that practically force you to beat him without getting hit even once.

>>721105269
/thread

>>721105139
>iiiiiiii neeeeeeeeeeed youuuuuuuuuuuuu iiiiiiii feeeeeeeeeeel yoooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
this game simultaneously had the best and worst vidya music ever

>>721105309
call your dad

I played through Ng+5 which apparently is the highest the difficult increases.
Unfortunately nothing can withstand Maelle, who depending on stacks drops 300 million, 500 million, or even 1trillion on people.

Like its fucking insane how easy it is to get a trillion damage on one attack. Ive never seen anything lile it

>>721094147
>>721094023
>>721095704
>>721095979
>>721098475

what is it with /v/ and absolute shitters these days

>>721093814 (OP)
Gustave dies. The party feels significantly more shit in terms of character and story after he's gone.

>>721106958
the guy who made the music never worked on a game before, he was a more traditional composer

>>721093814 (OP)
Rhythm parries, lack of map.

2 things I hate.

>>721107136
You just don't like non-human party members

>>721107103
Turn up difficulty from Story

>>721107103
Anon billion comes after million.

>>721093814 (OP)
eternal NTR torture ending. No bullshit.

>>721107103
Why can't you fags ever resist stacking all of your luminas for a Maelle one-shit build, play some other characters fag

I really have to grasp at straws but the interface to select pictos sucks.
UE5 stock HDR is trash (thus disabled by the game). The game is stuck on SDR unless they update it with a homemade implementation to fit the esthetic effects (apparently fantasy painters have a SDR palette).

>>721107146
just dodge if the parry timing is too hard.

>>721107437
>gimp yourself
no
>>721107295
its on expert, and i dont it affects damage output anyway

>>721093814 (OP)
story sucks. It started out good but it ends up being superpower capeshit.

>>721093814 (OP)
It looks like diarrhea and """plays""" like Microsoft Excel

I've never seen a game get so many threads since BG3 and Elden Ring, why is that

>>721107437
>play some other characters fag

>>721107789
people like it and also argue a lot about the endings and how to interpret the story

>>721107657
>>721107827
Maellefags are the greatshield and maxed out mimic's tear users of this game

>>721107975
>souls shit
>thinks anyone cares about his opinion

>>721107975
maellefags would play as her even if she was the weakest character in the game

>>721107116
here's a hint: brown

>>721093814 (OP)
No speedo for Verso

>>721093814 (OP)
Level variety. It's all just the same outdoors cooridoors, but with a different color theme.

>>721107789
it's one of the most bell curve games there is people with above 100 IQ = good to excellent experience depending on how high their score is and when your IQ is below 100, it's the opposite

>>721103026
They're not even that bad
except for the climbing one

>>721108306
this
she's too qt to play as anyone else fucking look at her

>>721093814 (OP)
game has too many assets bought from the store
also
>QTE combat system
cringe

I played the game with an easier parry mod and a minimap mod. I enjoyed the game more when parries didn't feel random and when I could actually find my bearings in the confusing levels.

>>721105139
ACT 2 world map music is pure kino, its still stuck in my head

>>721104000
hi

Sophie's anti-natalism was so stupid and defeatist. Gustave should have just impregnated her Maelle, that would have made Sophie and her aged ovaries seethe

>>721108796
If anything my complaint would be that the level maps are too simple. Do you get lost in your own house that you need a GPS for this game?

>>721108936
>stop playing for a few days
>boot up game
>no idea where the fuck I am
>running in circles like the HL2 playtester
idk man, no other game has done this to me

This game does one of my least favourite RPG clichés which is giving everything fucking awful obtuse names. It's not immersive it's confusing. Call an accessory an accessory, call an attack an attack, call a perk a perk.
>Lumina are passive effects that you can activate once you have mastered the corresponding pictos
I wouldn't have needed 4 pages explaining what Lumina are if you had just called them what you called them on page 1, passive effects.

>>721109182
Gustave didn't invent a perk converter because it's a stupid fucking name

>>721109649
Maybe so, but it's function over style. There is a reason every RPG in history calls magic attacks magic.

>>721093814 (OP)
The game.

What's the difference between +Defense and just getting more health?
Played through the whole game without knowing exactly what Defense did.

>>721110421
Nothing because of how the only way you're surviving a hit at lategame is five different modifiers stacked on top of yourself.

>>721109019
>https://gmtreks.com/expedition-33/map/spring-meadows
Anon, I...

>>721093814 (OP)
None of the characters are white and none of the women have more than B-cup tits. That's textbook woke, lots of woke games before this have been doing the same thing for years.
Also the fans give the game a pass for that, which I count as a separate flaw. So that's two big ones.

>>721110775
>None of the characters are white

It was all a dream, nothing you do matters.

>>721093814 (OP)
replacing the defensive phase with diet sekiro
repetitive qtes on attacking phase
the devs telling you to balance the game because the stuff they put in it was so obscenely broken it can't have been playtested

>>721110596
It's weird, trying to search for an explanation but nobody knows what Defense does.

>>721093814 (OP)
My friend asked me if there was a flaw and I was struggling to awnser. I love this game so much.

>>721093814 (OP)
Its a Reddit game, made by Reddit users, with Reddit memes in it.

>>721110648
for context, the running in circles moment happened at stone wave cliffs. my checkpoint was a place with 3 paths

>>721112052
Think you're getting that mixed up with ff7r. Its ok, we all click on the wrong thread.

>>721112126
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F-biRDlOTnI

>>721112209
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F-biRDlOTnI
I found it charming. Mainly because it's fits the gestrals and it has no bearing on the plot. FF7R has mandatory segments were they redid the beats to be more marvel/muscial. I stopped playing when red13 put on that fucking shinra outfit. The cringest writing i've ever seen.

>>721110421
>>721111462
Defense just decreases the standard damage received. It's different from having high HP because some attacks and other buffs are functions of the number of damage received or dealt so it can interact differently with other abilities.
Also the damage reduction is not linear so it's different than having high HP, it depends on the enemies and types of attack.

>>721111462
health increases your hitpoints
defense lessens the number of hitpoints you lose when attacked

>>721112052
It references some memes, but they're the good ones.

>>721093814 (OP)
It normalizes ugly characters and ugly graphics.

>>721112407
i'll take 1000 anime funny moments over reddit writting

>>721112954
I cannot see your point with this image. Is it that they're both women?

>>721113109
The writing in this game is confident and knows what it wants to say. FF7R is a mess and wasted potential. They could have just told the same story again or went in a completley different way after the events of part 1. Instead they just make every character speak in quotes and sound ominous. Even when renoir says things you don't understand at the start he still sounds like a character/person. Sephiroth and by extension cloud or so devoid of any character it's hard to see them as real people to be invested in

>>721108704
If you play as anyone besides Verso that means you're gay bro

>>721093814 (OP)
The combat peaks pretty early and gets more and more boring as you become OP. The lamp boss is probably the peak where the game actually feels challenging on a first playthrough. The back end of Act 2 is also kind of a slog. The Axion dungeons are too long and uninteresting, as is the reused asset dungeon inside in the monolith. Act 3 is also a big nothing after the game builds it up so much. It feels like they ran out of time and budget to do it properly.

Parts of the story are also retarded. The Matrix reveal added nothing and the game pushes a "good" ending that essentially judges the lives of almost all the characters you met worthless and secondary. Star Trek handled these themes with more grace 35 years ago.

>>721113692
Anon neither ending is a good ending, the game cannot spell out any more explicitly that Verso's ending has you betray and kill Lune and Sciel.

>>721093814 (OP)
sometimes facial animations look weird during serious moments and late in the game weird grey box like textures obscured the screen during cinematics. I think they could have maybe done more to develop ciel a lunes characters since they become seriously sidelined end game

Man, some people in this thread are just lame. This game is a masterpiece but people need to be contrary.

>>721113848
And yet that's STILL pushed as the right option. If they had the balls to portray Verso as the selfish, unrepentant shitbag that is without any redeeming qualities, I could have some respect for the writing. Unfortunately, you're supposed to sympathize with his tortured pretty boy soul, because the game was written by a woman.

It's a hellspawn of TLoU
Fuck your oscarbait vomit

>>721113967
at least 95% of the people who don't like it haven't even played it and don't really know much about the game

>>721093814 (OP)
I wasn't a fan of the direction the story went in during act 3. Hopefully the DLC settles some of the issues I had with it.

>>721114369
By who? Not the devs, who openly say there is no right answer. I think you might just have a persecution complex because nobody wants to side with your BPD teen.

>>721107116
well damn, sorry i don't like doing the same repetitive qte every turnbase combat
i guess i'm not a based goty enjoyer npc

>>721114841
Git gud

>>721115061
not a difficulty issue
i said it was boring

>>721105591
>This is the best written game.
>No, it's not the best thing ever written by man!
Who's the subhuman retard here?

Honestly the entire game falls apart at act 3. Not just the story but the entire gameplay system completely shits itself, because either you avoid 90% of the actual content just to have a challenge, you actually do all the content that you paid for and the entire game including the optional superboss becomes piss easy, or you gimp yourself and everything becomes an unfun slog.

>>721107789
turnbase games are to casuals and normalfags like shit is to flies
and once those people latch onto something they will never let go, like how they still post decade old memes

>>721093814 (OP)
Act 3 main quest gets way too easy the second you do even one sidequest

>>721112672
Did you figure this out yourself?

>>721093814 (OP)
Turn based combat

>>721112913
Lulz, he did say that

the plot after the reveal is genuinely lame. "oh the whole world is actually in a painting because verso's mother can't get over the grief of losing her son and it's not actually real life". wow so like it doesn't matter? great stuff

>>721116616
It's great and made me remember how FFX was just a dream, kinda. Living dream?

>>721113881
They put all the effort into making Lune stare burning hate straight through Verso's soul at the end

also is it LOON or LOON - AYY

>>721116849
FFX wasn't just a dream, Tidus, Jecht and the eidolons were fake but everything else was real.

>>721115927
in my first playthrough I accidentally went back to Lumiere before doing anything else, and it felt good and right so I didn't reload. Seems weird to have the final showdown just sitting there waiting for you while you fuck off and do all kinds of other stuff

>>721116616
>wow so like it doesn't matter? great stuff
That's pretty much the main thing, deciding if it matters or not. The story and overall narrative is very open to interpretation in all kinds of directions, but retards get angry that it doesn't just tell you all the answers. Lots of things are kept intentionally vague and there are multiple ways to view everything and everyone. But this is too much to ask from the modern gamer

>>721116872
They literally say her name multiple times in the voiced dialogue.

One flaw was not explaining time passing different in a painting. 60 years in a painting was what in real life? 1 month?

>>721117053
I played it in French though and they don't know how to pronounce anything correctly.

>>721094023
too short

>>721093814 (OP)
DEI troon version of Kinobirth

>>721117082
I don't think that's a flaw, pretty sure they did that on purpose. It's interesting that none of the people in the painting even existed until after Verso died IRL, and he died pretty recently.

>>721116962
Her father were recovering strength.
One benefit of not sidequesting is making the final boss not be a cakewalk.

You missed out on some stuff tho, a reason for new game+ later of you want.

>>721117159
>DEI troon
Do you even know what those words mean? ESL?

>>721117218
A lot of the people existed there since they were painted by the real Verso.

>>721114841
You don't even know what a QTE is, faggot.

>>721117419
No, he didn't paint any people there, his mom painted all of them and the city after he died. It was just a fun fantasy Gestral world when him and Clea were painting and playing there as children.

Act 3 balance. It's too easy to break the game. Absolute shitters are one shotting Simon and naturally the final boss who only has 2 million HP. They made lots of dialogue and scripted scenes for the final boss fight but because of their dogshit balance, many players are accidentally skipping all that. The observant ones are applying an enemy health multiplier, but it shouldn't be up to the player to balance the game.

>>721117414
Everything that is wrong and bad with this world

Pretentious movie"game" melodramatic weeb paper mario is not interesting nor worth anyones time unless they are an emo 14 year old

>>721093814 (OP)
UE5 depth of field, motion blur, and other effects look extremely jarring and ugly, especially in motion.

>>721117419
The people of Lumiere are Aline's creations. I'm pretty sure Verso only made the Gestrals, Grandis, and Esquie.

>>721117729
Zaaaaased
Cringe as fuck westoids pretending they got the message when they dropped the fucking ball big time

Friend of mine insists the parry timing is shit. I dont remember that being a problem.

>>721117712
maybe but neither of those things are in E33. A lot of people bitch about it being 99% white and 1 Asian chick

>>721117914
there are a few enemies that intentionally try to trick you, but most of them are pretty straightforward. They even have reliable sound cues, so you could do it with your eyes closed if you have decent reflexes. Plus, you can always just dodge instead of parry if it's too hard

>>721117983
>33
It's a gangstalker game
I'm glad I didn't join the Mason's gamedev team in college despite being gangstalked now
They're getting more and more bold when it comes to ruining games

>>721117914
Parrying is supposed to be kinda hard because it's super powerful and gives you tons of benefits. Dodging is a lot easier but gives no rewards (aside from not getting hit)

>>721118063
What's the Masonic message in this game? Also I don't think there's a single gay couple in the game, even in background records, which is extremely unusual for 2025.

>>721118234
It's just some ugly Westoid slop to undermine Kinobirth's TRVTH NVKE
America is Shinra
Turks are gangstalkers

>>721093814 (OP)
Replayability.

>>721117510
>>721117775
I interpreted Old Lumiere existing and then his mother broke off a piece before his dad killed the whole old city before being trapped under the tower. Wasn't really paying attention I guess.

>>721117529
I don't even know you could multiply enemy health

>>721093814 (OP)
>1 flaw
Great art style but graphics looks like shit when you are moving because it's UE5 slop.

>instead of the axon deaths we got we should have had more really cool team animation kills
>a map so we know where we've been
>some of the standby animations could be smoother
Only flaws I have are nitpicks.

>>721093814 (OP)
found one of many

>>721118932
a lot of the plot details are found in random places in Act 3

The combat is bad on a fundemental level.
The core idea of non real time combat is to have the weight of your performance on strategy instead of on mechanical skill.
Parry/dodge in this game are way too rewarding to the point where you can be a retard and still be invincible with parry/dodge.

It looks really ugly and generic. I haven't played it.

>>721120840
Owned.

>>721120629
I'm fine with parry and dodge since it adds some amount of player skill and it's just a game that ends anyway. It makes it so that you can beat enemies way out of your league on skill alone instead of stats and levels.

Literally just started the game and played the opening. I hate UE5 so fucking much. If you remove the flowers and replace them with Tyranids it would look exactly the same as Space Marine 2.

>>721122994
Isn't this the case with literally all engines?

way too easy after finding even a single synergy in your pictos. an anon suggested splitting up the painter break damage limit picto into single digit increments that you can gain more of with each superboss you do in act 3. doesnt fix the issue but i think it would have helped. story starts really strong but goes on a downhill after the midpoint of act 2. the game is really good at its presentation of the story, but the story itself just didnt hold up to the presentation.

>>721123532
I prefer the third layer twist, otherwise it would've been a fairly generic story

act 3
verso
the money guy
the black guy at the start

>>721123532
Idk if this is a hot take but I’m not sure if I’d be hearing so much “best video game story ever” if it weren’t for the really solid presentation.

>>721103369
The game autosaves constantly. Quit to menu and Continue. Simple as.

>>721093814 (OP)
There are none.