Thread 721097354

>>721097354 (OP)
TroonSong exists because of it. spikes = instant death.

>>721097354 (OP)
Is it worth playing classicvanias if I ever only played sotn and the gba and ds games?

Castlevania's difficulty comes from the NES jankiness

ok now try not using the holy water

>>721098091
Triple cross is arguably even better, only a couple bosses are very marginally harder

>>721098007
yes......he he he he hehe

>>721098139
it's like some newfag mating call

>>721098007
Yeah why wouldn't it be?

You should have started with classicvania, so why does it matter if you only played two igavanias?

Is Silksong actually difficult, or is it like the Souls games and have a completely undeserved reputation for being hard?

>>721098007
They have a completely different appeal, but they're generally good games.

>>721098061
There's nothing "janky" about Castlevania 1 or 3.

I doubt you had triple sub weapons when you first got there.

Is holy water this OP in sotn too? I just started it and have been using throwing knives

>>721098635
Not that guy but I would say knock back and constantly respawning enemies on NES games were pretty janky

>>721098635
Both Silksong and Souls are incredibly difficult, especially compared to retroshit.

Souls has higher baseline difficulty but more tools/methods to cheese than Silksong and vice versa

>>721098635
Cv1 and Cv3 are both incredibly janky even by NES standards

>>721098635
You die in 3-4 hits to every boss but the health recovery thing recharges pretty quick
Nothing is really so aggressive that its hard to find windows to heal

>>721098879
constantly respawning enemies are kind of neat in their own way, you start looking at enemies like wave patterns occupying space rather than individual enemies to defeat.

>>721097354 (OP)
>zoomers stealing slang from blacks

>>721098635
Silksong is not hard
-You have infinite healing as long as you can keep damaging enemies. You also have accessories that help with this too.
-You have an attack with infinite range that does the same damage as your normal attack, though you can only use it 15 times.
-If you die, you can get back to the boss in seconds and fly over/run past all the enemies.
-You have infinite lives & continues. The rest areas fully restore your HP.

When I watch other people get filtered by Silksong, it's because they rush right into the boss and start spamming attacks without trying to learn the patterns. The only tricky part is the pogo platforming. But IIRC most of those areas are completely optional.

>>721097354 (OP)
It's more annoying than hard like most of the nes games.

>>721097354 (OP)
Console games have always been extremely casual.

>>721097354 (OP)
deadass fr fr tho ong sheeeesh

Almost all of these old console games are basically just doing some bullshit to totally trivialize the game. Once childhood naivety is gone they start losing their appeal. You gotta look elsewhere for a challenge.

>>721098879
That isn’t jank though, because they are conscious decisions to the gameplay. True “jank” would be hardcoded limitations that prevent fluid movement. The NES was clearly capable of having jump corrections and no knockback, as evident from the fucking Mario Bros.

>>721097354 (OP)
You post a wemb but I bet you didn't even play it

>>721097354 (OP)
who the fuck ever thought castlevania 1 was hard
castlevania 3 gets like five times harder by the late levels and even that is babby game compared to something like battletoads or ikari

>>721100281
Lolno. PCbabbies use literal save states and easy mode mods. They are pussies

>>721097354 (OP)
Castlevania 1 is absolutely not harder than silksong.
Fucking dracula is a cruel design trick though, making you use the cross phase one since the holy water doesn't hurt him, only to reveal that actually you should have picked the holy water retard since phase 2 is brutal without it which in turn forces you to learn phase 1 all over again

>>721098938
Souls is easy as shit because despite being "hard", it's trivial to cheese the game. The only hard modern Fromsoft game is Sekiro since you actually need to git gud to beat it I never played AC6 it looks like shit.

Unc here. We didn't have speedrunner trannies telling us to stunlock the boss with holy water.
You couldn't even look up a playthrough on youtube to see how someone else did it. You were basically on your own and perhaps had a blurb of text in nintendo power to help you.

>>721098635
Id say it's about as hard as Castlevania 3 Alucard route if you don't know how medusa heads work.

>>721102501
Yes you did, you had strategy guides and everything.

>>721097354 (OP)
>holy water
You D I D N ' T BEAT the game.

>>721102931
We sure did. You autistic people didn't exist back then.

>>721098007
if you dont mind that they are not mvs

>>721097354 (OP)
When kids talk about retro games, it's very obvious that they don't actually understand how things were back then. These games were hard, and on purpose too. But we had strategy guides with all kinds of secrets, and we also had cheat codes. There was no "you didn't actually beat the game!" bs back then, knowing cool cheats was actually a sign of professionalism.

>>721103987
well castlevania 2 simons quest is a decent early metroidvania if you use a retranslation patch

>>721102162
>it's easy if I use online guides, builds, and cheese strats
>and use seamless co-op to have my buttbuddy to carry me the entire game
>and I powerfarm to be massively overleveled
Fuck off retard. No one should play like this and you sure as hell shouldn't rate the difficulty based on using the most braindead cheese strats from online guides.

>>721104119
It's already difficult to be on the same level of discussion because a lot of people think using save states regularly is how you're meant to play old games.

>>721104537
>>it's easy if I use online guides, builds, and cheese strats
Not even.
>DS1
Trivalized with a shield and claymore so ironically if you're not looking up online "guides" telling you to rely on dodge.

>DS2
Lightning infused maces deal with 90% of bosses. Not hard to figure out.

>ER
Summoning bell. Nuff said.

>>721105975
>Trivalized with a shield and claymore
Bullfuckingshit. That's orders of magnitude harder than retroshit

If a 9.5/10 difficulty game is easy then what the fuck is considered hard your colossal retard? Fuck off idiot

>>721097354 (OP)
It is harder since you can’t heal and your movement is slow.

>>721106310
Retard.

You have way less HP, enemies are way more aggressive, and they have WAY more HP

>>721106413
You can dash away to avoid most attacks in Silksong. That or pogoing.

>>721102116
look at this poor anon.
had his brain turned to mush by abusing save states.

>>721104119
>knowing cool cheats was actually a sign of professionalism
Thank god that's over

>>721106541
Fucking retard. You need a dash because Silksong has extremely fast, aggressive enemies with very dense patterns, otherwise most damage is literally unavoidable. Cv1 is practically geriatric in comparison, extremely slow-pace with bosses and enemies that die very quickly and deal low damage

>>721098635
>Is Silksong actually difficult, or is it like the Souls games and have a completely undeserved reputation for being hard?
It is, and some people are trying to gaslight other that it isn't, this happens every time a hard games comes out

>>721098007
nah, they all suck ass besides bloodlines, they're still better than redditsong though

>>721107179
Yeah but limited continues though. I’ve never beaten Castlevania. Never invested the time. I’ll concede you’re right, it’s easier than Silksong.

>>721107489
cv1 has unlimited continues retard...

>>721097354 (OP)
People are crying about silksong runbacks and lack of benches. There are no benches in castlevania and as a runback, you need to start the entire game from the beginning

What Castlevania games left are worth playing? I've only beaten RoB, SotN, 64, LoD, CotM, HoD, and AoS

Strangely I'd rank those games in release order.

>>721107705
CV1 is 20 mins long and has unlimited continues you zoomer dipshit

Comparing 90s platformers to games today is dumb. Nowadays, games are meant to be beaten. Back then, games were meant to be played. Just like sports or board games. You don't win a game of draughts and declare "I beat the game, I may now throw it away". When you play basketball with friends and they win, you do not bitch that game has bad design. You just played the game for an hour and you had fun no matter if you beat the game or you kept dying to the first boss.

>>721106861
>He actually thinks that era is over
>When glitches and exploits get called "tech" nowadays

>>721098007
Akumajou Densetsu is the best Castlevania game.