Thread 721111790

what did big boss actually do wrong?
he's considered a megalomaniac war criminal intent on world domination, but we never see that actually happen

>>721111790 (OP)
>glowies demonize their former agent
never happened before

>>721111790 (OP)
He went against the machine. You can only do so with subtlety and savoir faire. He failed and so he's demonized.

>revels in endless war
>megalomaniacal enough to want to create an entire new country in his image
>raises child soldiers
>brainwashes one of his most loyal men that saved his life into thinking he's him and sets him up to be the fall guy in a glowie proxy war
>tries to privatize nukes and gets confused when the entire world wants him dead

>>721111790 (OP)
>he's considered a megalomaniac war criminal intent on world domination, but we never see that actually happen
This is extremely anti-semitic

>>721111790 (OP)
>How come this character doesn't make any sense
>How come every game in the series retcons the previous game

>>721111790 (OP)
It all happens in the MSX games, which are old and no one played.

>>721111790 (OP)
Play MG1 and 2, he's a warmonger just because he enjoys war.

>>721112109
but that former agent was literally the glowies' fucking mascot, and we hear that they glorified him and made him a hero in msg4

>>721111790 (OP)
Fucking bitch turned his back on America

>>721111790 (OP)
he's already a demon....

>>721111790 (OP)
he did nothing wrong, the patriots simply approached solid and convinced him he was evil. the retard was a pawn his entire life

>>721115245
>Fucking bitch turned his back on America
This is based though

>>721113417
in those games, he threatened the whole world with nukes he probably wasn't actually going to use, and in doing so managed to stop all global conflict and unite all nations towards a common goal, albeit only briefly thanks to snake

>>721112252
Zero did that last part, BB just went along with it and also allowed the hospital attack to happen since he knew.
If anything that's actual evil

>>721116693
I meant the body double thing not nukes

>>721115245
He turned his back on Jews but then became one in the end

Why did he abandon Kaz?

>>721111790 (OP)
>fell for propaganda again award

>>721112252
>raises child soldiers
when?
the kids in zanzibar weren't combatants, they were orphans rescued from war torn countries

>>721115134
Yeah that never happened before in Metal Gear

>>721117000
1. Kaz was a Cipher agent and betrayed him
2. Kaz wanted a business, Big Boss wanted a nation
3. Kaz was consumed by revenge, Big Boss believed there was no such thing as a timeless enemy

>>721111790 (OP)
He was in the way of OTHER people wanting to do (zero) that and thus was framed and made into the fall guy

>>721115402
That's not what happened at all lol, he invaded multiple countries and stole nuclear weapons, he started wars and his entire goal was endless conflict, he held oilix and shit hostage in order to cause an global energy crisis and cause more conflict. It was growing peaceful before this and after, which is why Liquid wants to do the same thing in MGS1, create an endless war for a world gone soft.

>>721117673
so does that mean he doesn't really care about MB being destroyed? or that he could work with skull face?

So why doesn't Raiden fucking identify Solidus as the FUCKING PRESIDENT ONE FROM ADMINISTRATION AGO?

>>721117992
Because the player hadn't seen the president before that point

Fucking dumb Americans! They think this shit is real, haha

>>721117992
Raiden is really dumb and has bad memory. If I had to come up with some dumb theory though maybe Solidus had some plastic surgery while President so he wasn't recognizable as a Big Boss clone, and then had it removed when he went underground between MGS1 and 2.

>>721117310
That guy is technically wrong about them being child soldiers. At worst they're child spies. He rescued them with intent to train them as soldiers in future wars, creating an endless cycle of war orphans turn soldiers. He explains this to you directly in the game that no one played.

>>721117959
>so does that mean he doesn't really care about MB being destroyed?
I think he may have cared in the moment but when he woke up from the coma? Nah

>>721117959
All of the above. Based on GZ he was ready to kill Chico and Paz for talking but Kaz told him no.
That's not someone who feels empathy.
What most likely happened is Zeros body double coming into the picture, Ocelot likely informed him he'll take it from here so he can try again elsewhere somehow.

Venom's demon is the real BB

>>721118104
Well, they did elect an orange Volgin

>>721118632
I fucking wish, that would at least be entertaining
in reality he's zero from msg4 but orange and instead of the patriots he has the pedophiles

worst part of TPP is that Liquid hates Big Boss and thinks that he's inferior...for no reason

>>721111790 (OP)
Went against Zero.
That's it.

>>721118902
Liquid's motivation was always retarded though

>>721118902
The part that miffed me the most was the fact that ocelot acted like an entirely different character, he went from the wacky lovable psycho to the exact same king of muted stoic prick half the cast of TPP is

>>721119058
yeah he thought he could take big boss. shocked that retard's ass with the stun hand so many times

>>721118632
Grab them by the balls.

>>721111790 (OP)
>what did big boss actually do wrong?
Not wifing Paz while he had the chance.

The Venom shit is just crazy. All because we had to make an explanation for how he survived being flamethrowerd to hell.

>>721111790 (OP)
We see it in MG2
He became a warmonger for the sake of it

>>721119216
>Giving Peace of chance
>Giving WAR a chance

>>721119332
The flamethrower thing was against real BiBo

>>721119332
There's other retards who think he's Cyborg Ninja and try to head canon that in, lol