Thread 721130496

Are these any good? I plan on getting something like 8TB of one.
Seagate or western digital variants. They're both around the same price.

Here's the other one.

>>721130496 (OP)
WHAT IT DO?

>>721130496 (OP)
The seagates usually let you replace the drive inside. The western digitals use a proprietary connection so you can't easily swap the drives out. But the seagates are likely to fail, whereas the WDs are likely to last a long time.

>>721130530
no not really. especially the first one.
seagate is probably the worse possible thing to backup anything important in your life to.

you can get a 14tb drive and a dock for it around the same price as that WD 8tb in your second picture.

It looks like it's an external HDD.
Seagate HDDs are known to be low quality and always die young.

>>721130925
>>721130821
>>721130812
So what's better Seagate or western digital

>>721131039
Seagate's had more failures of late, but their install base is bigger. A bad batch hits harder with them. I haven't had a Seagate fail ever, and my firewall is booting off a 40MB drive from my 386.

>>721131039
everyone in the thread says seagate is bad except 1 ancient fag with a 40mb one.

you should get a seagate, it suits you.

>>721131254
Almost everyone on 4chan just recites what they hear.
>UE5 GOYSLOP BECAUSE YOUTUBE
>SEAGATE BAD BECAUSE YOUTUBE
>WINDOWS BAD BECAUSE YOUTUBE
>AMD GOOD BECAUSE BOSS SAY SELL IT

>>721130925
>Seagate HDDs are known to be low quality and always die young.
i always hear this but i've never had an issue with them

As an addendum, backing up games is dumb unless your bandwidth is ass. You can always recover it. Back up stuff that will disappear, like porn that rubs you the right way. It won't always be up and available.

>>721131367
>which one of these should I buy
not that one.
>WAAAAAH WHY ARE PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT TO BUY WTF. FUCKING 4CHAN!!!!!!!!

>>721131756
The problem is that the people who are making suggestions are just parroting each other and their favorite ecelebs like Narcissa Wright.

>>721132221
no you stupid faggot.
We have all had seagates and the fucking sucked ass.

I have wd elements 18tb
Its been working fine for 2 years now. Just remember to turn off the windows usb power saving feature so it doesnt turn it off randomly

>>721130496 (OP)
i wish my ssd had leds.

Why should I get an external HDD instead of internal?

>>721130496 (OP)
If any PC hardware has Gaming on it
Avoid it like the Plague

Where do I go to find information that reviews storage devices (SSDs, HDDs, NVMe2) with legit reviews and data which isn't paid off by shills? Give me the raw data and analysis so I can get something good.

>>721132795
sparrow on frog's head

>>721133435
There was a website where some big data center posted averaged stats for all drives by capacity/manufacturer/model number, but i don't remember what it was called.
Toshiba had the best stats (marginally) , but they are much more expensive new & used than other brands, to the point where you can sometimes buy 2 drives from another brand used for the cost of a Toshiba of the same capacity, also used.

>>721130496 (OP)
Buy the equivalent loose drive (or shuck one of these if it's cheaper, it rarely is nowadays) and hook it up to an external SATA dock. The interface boards they stick in all external/portable drives are cancer and will genuinely fail before the drive itself does.

>seagate is shit
>wd is shit
i've only ever had 2.5" drives go bad on me and they've been from all brands (seagate, wd, buffalo, maybe even a toshiba). I've yet to have a 3.5" drive go on me (aside from an old SSHD, and it was the flash that went on that) and I torrent and dump shit on mine heavily. As long as they're properly cooled you should be fine

>>721133819
So if my objective is to hoard japanese porn, should I get the cheapest or the most expensive hard drives possible?

You want an nvme drive for gaming, and a disk drive for storage. You should have more than one disk drive so everything has 2 copies or more. If a disk drive fails, you have another copy of that data. Nvme is orders of magnitude faster for loading your games and operating system speed. You should install windows on an nvme drive.

>>721134251
I presume they're just loading games onto the hard drive to transfer onto the NVME later when they feel like playing them. Unless it was old shit designed to run on a hard drive, running most games directly off a hard drive is a small brain move.

Fuck Seagate the only drives I've had fail early within 1year were Seagate. Now I've had other drives die but that was like 5 -10 years later.

>>721132383
>implying you're not phoneposters who don't play games
I'm on to you, Rajesh Patel.

>>721130496 (OP)
Buy whatever you want, it's your money.
The only drive that has failed on me was a portable Samsung 512GB HDD. I've got Seagate portables from 2012 & 2013 that still run fine.

>>721134756
>They

Fuck off you tranny faggot. Its clearly a male

>>721135657
obsessed

>>721131039
Seagate isn't bad, it's just really popular so more people have probably had bad experiences with them.
I still wouldn't buy the seagate on principle of it being "gamer" rgb slop though

if you're really fucking stupid you should go for seagate just like people on /v/ told you not to (and /g/ will say the same if you post there)

just don't come whining here when it fails your stupid ass, giant retard motherfucker

I might be a bit of fucking retard, but can someone explain the point of HDD hubs to me?
>more expensive than an internal HDD with similar storage
>more expensive than most external HDDs
>Needs a power cable, so its less useful as a backup, and also not portable

In what circumstance would i buy a hub instead of just installing another drive in my desktop?

>>721136331
>t. festering shitital shill

its not about brands, its about the model (or more specifically the batch).
This is why you have so many different people swearing up and down one brand will always outlive the other and vice versa. The tech is always changing, and a brand that is dogshit one year, could be the best the next year, and there really is no way of knowing other than taking the gamble
buy a warranty

>>721132383
>all
my seagates have been fine

>>721137436
no they haven't

>>721130530
I own two WD MyBooks. A 2TB from 2011 that I used til 2018 when I got at 4TB that I am still using now daily. Both work great.

>>721136537
Because you have limited ports on your MB, both for disks and usb so you cannot endlessly expand them especially if you have weaker power unit. Let's say that for example you want to download a shitload of anime and mango in good quality(old DVDs, special eps, BR of newer titles)
if you want them all on PC, they'll constantly eat power even if you're not actively use it. With external storage like this, you can only power it up when you neeed them like chekcing your inventory or downloading more to it
with how manga/anime gets removed from internet outside paid sources and how game publishers act right now, it's not abad idea to have an offline storage

>>721130496 (OP)
>USB
No, get a NAS.

>>721134241
raid 5 using affordable drives

>>721137436
no they haven't shut the fuck up

>>721137436
>he doesn't know

>>721134806
I never phonepost, that being said I lost some cat pictures on a shitty seagate I paid out the ass for and will NEVER forgive them.

>>721130496 (OP)
enternal harddirves are better than anrernal harddrives . get the vtr747 harddrive exmax so it will store more and value

>>721140474
sar?

NAS or DAS? If I get a NAS I'll have to seriously set up my network properly and have proper VLANs.

I have 2 Seagate Exos 14TB hdds. Both run great. Only HDD that ever failed me was a WD, and a Toshiba went fuckloud but still ran.

>>721130496 (OP)
>Is an external HDD good
It's an external HDD.

>>721136242
>Seagate isn't bad, it's just really popular
Seagate sells around ~20% of the volume Western Digital does.

WD make the most drives AND have the lowest failure rate (HGST technically the lowest, but WD own them)

>>721130496 (OP)
I'm sure you can build your own external HDD for cheaper than a pre-built

I just looked it up, the Firecuda gaming hub is £480 on their website, but you can buy a Seagate Ironworlf 16tb NAS drive for £225 and a 3.5" HDD enclosure for £20 both from Amazon

the only thing you are getting extra with the Firecuda is a single USB-C and a single USB-A passthrough slots on the front, but then you can also buy a USB hub with more ports for another £20, so it's still not a great deal.
Also the NAS drive will be more reliable than the firecuda drive and will last longer, as NAS drives are designed around 24/7 use

>>721130496 (OP)
like every other seagate drive ive ever owned since 2010 the firecuda i had died 6mo after its warranty period expired - take that as you will.

Luckily ive owned enough seagates to know to never fucking trust them with anything remotely important

>>721130496 (OP)
>>721130530
>External hdd
For what purpose?
Why not just get a drive that isn't ancient if you're going to spend the money?

>>721130496 (OP)
>8TB
Just buy 14+TB sata hard drive like a man.

>>721138489
>if you want them all on PC, they'll constantly eat power even if you're not actively use it.
Even windows has options to disable drives after x amount of time of inactivity.
>Limited ports on your MB
Just buy bigger drives and if that's not enough then use some pcie to sata card.
you got at least 8 sata slots on your MB if you aren't matx faggot

>>721130496 (OP)
>seagate gamig
>gaming hub
>RGB
These three things alone mark up the price by at least 600%
Just buy a normal drive you fucking retard

>>721142443
I had 2 toshibas and one broke down after a year. Not really an issue since they sent me a new one, and it was giving clues about failing for a long time. I was able to backup almost everything important from it before it died.

>>721131039
over the years I have bought a bunch of seagate drives, some for laptops, some of towers, every single laptop one I had has failed, most of the desktop ones had issues after a couple years, the last one I bought a 2tb hdd a few years back, came out the box with defective write/read speeds, but was too lazy to send back. My os is still on that crap

>>721131541
>backing up games is dumb unless your bandwidth is ass
That's exactly why I back them up kek
Downloading games at 1mbps is pain

>>721130496 (OP)
They put "GAYMING" and "RGB" so my instinct tells me it's overpriced because it's targeted at retards